Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne frame size?

2021-04-18 Thread James Warren 

Jim,

Before Riv started offering frames with 6 degree top tube upslope, the top tube 
upslope was roughly 2 degrees. This was the Riv norm from 1994 until whenever 
the Bombadil came along (’07, ’08?, I don’t remember the exact year.) Atlantis 
had 2.5 degrees, AHH had 1.5 degrees, many other models had 2 degrees.

With those 2 degree frames, my ideal size is 64 and 65 cm, and that’s what I 
rode before Bombadil and Hillborne came along with the 6 degree upslope.

Then in 2010, I got a 60 cm Hillborne, I found that I could make that size work 
well for me. When they started offering the frames with more upslope to the top 
tubes, they called it “Expanded Geometry.” It’s ended up being a really good 
thing, because I’m pretty sure it improves the dirt capability.

Enjoy your Hillborne! Amazing frames


> On Apr 17, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Jim McPherson  wrote:
> 
> Thanks. It’s 60cm alright. Cheers
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2021, at 2:19 PM, James Warren  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Center of bottom bracket to top of seat lug
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 14, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Finnegan >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> How can I tell the size of the Sam Hillborne frame? I don't see any size on 
>>> the paint anywhere, the Riv website doesn't have specs for the size I'm 
>>> looking at (60cm--the largest Sam they offer in 2021, apparently). Could be 
>>> a 58 or 57 though, not sure.
>>> 
>>> I tried measuring the top tube length, but from where? Maybe the middle of 
>>> the seat tube to where the top tube connects with the head tube? Or to the 
>>> middle of the head tube too? Or just the length between the tubes? How long 
>>> should it be on the new 60cm frame?
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Riv pros. 
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne frame size?

2021-04-17 Thread Jim McPherson 
Thanks. It’s 60cm alright. Cheers

> On Apr 17, 2021, at 2:19 PM, James Warren  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Center of bottom bracket to top of seat lug
> 
> 
>> On Apr 14, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Finnegan  wrote:
>> 
>> How can I tell the size of the Sam Hillborne frame? I don't see any size on 
>> the paint anywhere, the Riv website doesn't have specs for the size I'm 
>> looking at (60cm--the largest Sam they offer in 2021, apparently). Could be 
>> a 58 or 57 though, not sure.
>> 
>> I tried measuring the top tube length, but from where? Maybe the middle of 
>> the seat tube to where the top tube connects with the head tube? Or to the 
>> middle of the head tube too? Or just the length between the tubes? How long 
>> should it be on the new 60cm frame?
>> 
>> Thanks, Riv pros. 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne frame size?

2021-04-17 Thread James Warren 

Center of bottom bracket to top of seat lug


> On Apr 14, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Finnegan  wrote:
> 
> How can I tell the size of the Sam Hillborne frame? I don't see any size on 
> the paint anywhere, the Riv website doesn't have specs for the size I'm 
> looking at (60cm--the largest Sam they offer in 2021, apparently). Could be a 
> 58 or 57 though, not sure.
> 
> I tried measuring the top tube length, but from where? Maybe the middle of 
> the seat tube to where the top tube connects with the head tube? Or to the 
> middle of the head tube too? Or just the length between the tubes? How long 
> should it be on the new 60cm frame?
> 
> Thanks, Riv pros. 
> 
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[RBW] Sam Hillborne frame size?

2021-04-17 Thread Finnegan 
How can I tell the size of the Sam Hillborne frame? I don't see any size on 
the paint anywhere, the Riv website doesn't have specs for the size I'm 
looking at (60cm--the largest Sam they offer in 2021, apparently). Could be 
a 58 or 57 though, not sure.

I tried measuring the top tube length, but from where? Maybe the middle of 
the seat tube to where the top tube connects with the head tube? Or to the 
middle of the head tube too? Or just the length between the tubes? How long 
should it be on the new 60cm frame?

Thanks, Riv pros. 

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