Just an FYI and I may be the only one to have not checked before.. Anyway when I bought the new shiny rims (which I couldn't find anywhere else) I went through a local bike shop and saved some pretty good dollars on them. I also saved almost 30 bucks on a rear cassette hub. So it was a win win buying from lbs and getting what I wanted. The rims built up nicely btw. I haven't had any experience with them other than that to date.
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