Re: [RBW] reaffirmation of a nice frame
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:37 PM, William wrote: > Give me a break! You can always improve a bike. That's just laziness and > settling for 'good enough'. Well... Maybe. I have thought about swapping the headlamp out for one of the new LED headlamps that wasn't available when I spec'd the bike :) -Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] reaffirmation of a nice frame
Give me a break! You can always improve a bike. That's just laziness and settling for 'good enough'. For example, on that Mariposa you could improve the.um.well, look at that...ummmuhhh ##stares## ##ruminates## ##cogitates## ##deliberates## Well, there's always the, um.OK, I guess it is perfect. On Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:11:22 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 13:50 -0500, Kenneth Stagg wrote: > > Blessing here. I spend more time riding and less time thinking, > > writing, talking or stressing about bikes. I have more money in my > > pocket because I don't worry about trying to find something better > > than what's already on the bike. The only tweaking I've done on the > > bike since I got it has been to change out the pedals and (recently) > > the cassette for a different set of ratios since I've moved away from > > the area for which it was originally geared. > > > Yes, but honestly, Ken, that Mariposa of yours is literally nothing shy > of perfection. Of course you don't worry about tweaking it -- any more > than they worry about tweaking the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3dq0CuUYaycJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] reaffirmation of a nice frame
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Kenneth Stagg wrote: > Thanks. Worth looking into. Actually your suggestion reminded me of > something else. Anyone tried the Primo Comets in 1.5? I see that the > Hostel Shoppe lists them in both wire bead and Kevlar. > I had those on my bike friday tandem. They were great. Didn't really test durability much but they rolled smoothly and didn't feel dead at all. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] reaffirmation of a nice frame
Thanks. Worth looking into. Actually your suggestion reminded me of something else. Anyone tried the Primo Comets in 1.5? I see that the Hostel Shoppe lists them in both wire bead and Kevlar. -Ken On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:19 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Thanks, Ken. > > Not 1.5, but for 1.35 the Schwalbe Kojaks are very nice. > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Kenneth Stagg > wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: >>> >>> Yes, but honestly, Ken, that Mariposa of yours is literally nothing shy >>> of perfection. Of course you don't worry about tweaking it -- any more >>> than they worry about tweaking the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. >> >> And the really cool part? It rides better than it looks. I think >> Mike must have performed some magic to make it handle so well - either >> that or years and years of practice and study grounded in an intuitive >> understanding, but magic sounds more interesting ;) >> >> -Ken >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > "Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you." > > Flannery O'Connor > > - > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] reaffirmation of a nice frame
Thanks, Ken. Not 1.5, but for 1.35 the Schwalbe Kojaks are very nice. On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Kenneth Stagg wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: >> >> Yes, but honestly, Ken, that Mariposa of yours is literally nothing shy >> of perfection. Of course you don't worry about tweaking it -- any more >> than they worry about tweaking the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. > > And the really cool part? It rides better than it looks. I think > Mike must have performed some magic to make it handle so well - either > that or years and years of practice and study grounded in an intuitive > understanding, but magic sounds more interesting ;) > > -Ken > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- "Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you." Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] reaffirmation of a nice frame
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > Yes, but honestly, Ken, that Mariposa of yours is literally nothing shy > of perfection. Of course you don't worry about tweaking it -- any more > than they worry about tweaking the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. And the really cool part? It rides better than it looks. I think Mike must have performed some magic to make it handle so well - either that or years and years of practice and study grounded in an intuitive understanding, but magic sounds more interesting ;) -Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] reaffirmation of a nice frame
On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 13:50 -0500, Kenneth Stagg wrote: > Blessing here. I spend more time riding and less time thinking, > writing, talking or stressing about bikes. I have more money in my > pocket because I don't worry about trying to find something better > than what's already on the bike. The only tweaking I've done on the > bike since I got it has been to change out the pedals and (recently) > the cassette for a different set of ratios since I've moved away from > the area for which it was originally geared. Yes, but honestly, Ken, that Mariposa of yours is literally nothing shy of perfection. Of course you don't worry about tweaking it -- any more than they worry about tweaking the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] reaffirmation of a nice frame
Yep, 559. Still using Panaracer HiRoads. Haven't decided what I'm going to move to when my stash of these is used up. I'd love to find a smooth, light, flexible, moderately durable 26x1.5 tire if someone has suggestions. http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc026-kenstagg0805.html Note I think the lugs the modified Riv 1st generation (to qualify for posting on RBW :) Oh, and this sold me on low trail - the handling difference with cushier tires and a handlebar bag - both of which I'm fond of - is amazing. -Ken On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:59 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Ken: can you post a photo? I think I saw it on the Boblist when you > first took delivery, but it has been too long to remember what I saw. > IIRC, it's a 559 wheeled design, right? I'm curious to see again what > it is like -- and, if I am right in thinking that it is 559, to learn > what tires you are using. > > Thanks. > > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Kenneth Stagg > wrote: >> Blessing here. I spend more time riding and less time thinking, >> writing, talking or stressing about bikes. I have more money in my >> pocket because I don't worry about trying to find something better >> than what's already on the bike. The only tweaking I've done on the >> bike since I got it has been to change out the pedals and (recently) >> the cassette for a different set of ratios since I've moved away from >> the area for which it was originally geared. >> >> -Ken > > > -- > "Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you." > > Flannery O'Connor > > - > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] reaffirmation of a nice frame
Ken: can you post a photo? I think I saw it on the Boblist when you first took delivery, but it has been too long to remember what I saw. IIRC, it's a 559 wheeled design, right? I'm curious to see again what it is like -- and, if I am right in thinking that it is 559, to learn what tires you are using. Thanks. On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Kenneth Stagg wrote: > Blessing here. I spend more time riding and less time thinking, > writing, talking or stressing about bikes. I have more money in my > pocket because I don't worry about trying to find something better > than what's already on the bike. The only tweaking I've done on the > bike since I got it has been to change out the pedals and (recently) > the cassette for a different set of ratios since I've moved away from > the area for which it was originally geared. > > -Ken -- "Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you." Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] reaffirmation of a nice frame
Blessing here. I spend more time riding and less time thinking, writing, talking or stressing about bikes. I have more money in my pocket because I don't worry about trying to find something better than what's already on the bike. The only tweaking I've done on the bike since I got it has been to change out the pedals and (recently) the cassette for a different set of ratios since I've moved away from the area for which it was originally geared. -Ken On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:45 PM, William wrote: > Is it a blessing or a curse, getting a bike that makes all other bikes feel > bad? I think it's a blessing. My first Riv was a tipping point for me. It > changed the way I viewed cycling as a whole. The consequence was that 100% > of my kinda substantial stable got turned over (let me see one, two, > threeseven bikes that I had in the garage in December 2009 are now > gone). I'm back up to 5 bikes for me, and only two of them are Rivendells, > but they are all the direct consequence of the transformation in me that > began with my first Riv and continues. > > > On Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:56:09 AM UTC-7, kennet...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Brian Hanson wrote: >> > I rode a total of 36 miles today, and never "got used to the handling". >> > Talk about a great way to make you appreciate how great the frames are >> > that >> > Rivendell makes. I was mentally comparing the ride of my Hunqapillar >> > and >> > AHH with this thing all the way home. They are in another class >> > altogether. >> > Next time someone says that the components make all the difference, >> > I'll >> > just have to smirk. >> >> I know the feeling. After I got my Mariposa nothing else was any fun >> to ride (except the tandem.) I could ride the Heron or one of the >> Moultons but they felt dead and heavy. Eventually they all went away >> and I still marvel at the incredible feel of the Mariposa each time I >> ride it. >> >> -Ken > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DdH0xpGmAKQJ. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] reaffirmation of a nice frame
Is it a blessing or a curse, getting a bike that makes all other bikes feel bad? I think it's a blessing. My first Riv was a tipping point for me. It changed the way I viewed cycling as a whole. The consequence was that 100% of my kinda substantial stable got turned over (let me see one, two, threeseven bikes that I had in the garage in December 2009 are now gone). I'm back up to 5 bikes for me, and only two of them are Rivendells, but they are all the direct consequence of the transformation in me that began with my first Riv and continues. On Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:56:09 AM UTC-7, kennet...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Brian Hanson > wrote: > > I rode a total of 36 miles today, and never "got used to the handling". > > Talk about a great way to make you appreciate how great the frames are > that > > Rivendell makes. I was mentally comparing the ride of my Hunqapillar > and > > AHH with this thing all the way home. They are in another class > altogether. > > Next time someone says that the components make all the difference, > I'll > > just have to smirk. > > I know the feeling. After I got my Mariposa nothing else was any fun > to ride (except the tandem.) I could ride the Heron or one of the > Moultons but they felt dead and heavy. Eventually they all went away > and I still marvel at the incredible feel of the Mariposa each time I > ride it. > > -Ken > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DdH0xpGmAKQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] reaffirmation of a nice frame
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Brian Hanson wrote: > I rode a total of 36 miles today, and never "got used to the handling". > Talk about a great way to make you appreciate how great the frames are that > Rivendell makes. I was mentally comparing the ride of my Hunqapillar and > AHH with this thing all the way home. They are in another class altogether. > Next time someone says that the components make all the difference, I'll > just have to smirk. I know the feeling. After I got my Mariposa nothing else was any fun to ride (except the tandem.) I could ride the Heron or one of the Moultons but they felt dead and heavy. Eventually they all went away and I still marvel at the incredible feel of the Mariposa each time I ride it. -Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] reaffirmation of a nice frame
I went on a lunch ride today with the "fast guys" at work. I've done this ride with them before on my rando'd out AHH, but this time I wanted to try out a bike I recently set up for my wife. It was unencumbered by fenders, racks, lights, and all the things I normally ride with. It also had 28mm tires at about 60-70 psi. The frame/fork is attractive, and lugged steel construction (made in China) and designed by a semi-local Washington company, so that much is consistent, but everything else was very different. The bike is unridable no-handed. It wanted to veer left every time I let go of the bars. The steering was twitchy - high speed and low. The ride was harsh and bone-rattling - all on pavement, no less. When I got home, I decided I never wanted to ride that one again. It makes you wonder all the work and time folks waste building and riding uncomfortable bikes. I rode a total of 36 miles today, and never "got used to the handling". Talk about a great way to make you appreciate how great the frames are that Rivendell makes. I was mentally comparing the ride of my Hunqapillar and AHH with this thing all the way home. They are in another class altogether. Next time someone says that the components make all the difference, I'll just have to smirk. I think I may have to get rid of this bike and convince my wife she needs a Hillborne or a Betty. Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
