RE: [RBW] Re: Was San Marcos - Now Seats Forward on Rivendells

2010-01-15 Thread Frederick, Steve
-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Rene Sterental Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 5:14 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Was San Marcos - Now Seats Forward on Rivendells Steve, My experience mirrors yours, in that to avoid hand pain, I was going with extreme

RE: [RBW] Re: Was San Marcos - Now Seats Forward on Rivendells

2010-01-15 Thread Frederick, Steve
I wrote: ...My saddle ended up 4-5cm further forward, a couple of millimeters lower, and with my bars a bit further forward and lowered a couple of cm's. He showed me how my back now described an arc like a suspension bridge and that the watt meter showed I was pedaling the same speed at a

RE: [RBW] Re: Was San Marcos - Now Seats Forward on Rivendells

2010-01-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 08:52 -0500, Frederick, Steve wrote: Hi Rene, It was counterintuitive to me but lowering the bars a little in conjunction with moving my saddle forward actually helped my hand pain. Now, when the bars are level with the saddle, it feels as though they are pushing

Re: [RBW] Re: Was San Marcos - Now Seats Forward on Rivendells

2010-01-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Bike fitting is a complicated subject, and many of the important variables are not considered in typical fitting sessions. In general hard-pedaling lightweight riders will prefer the saddle forward

RE: [RBW] Re: Was San Marcos - Now Seats Forward on Rivendells

2010-01-14 Thread Frederick, Steve
Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:50 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Was San Marcos - Now Seats Forward on Rivendells On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Bike fitting is a complicated subject

Re: [RBW] Re: Was San Marcos - Now Seats Forward on Rivendells

2010-01-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: My saddle ended up 4-5cm further forward, a couple of millimeters lower, and with my bars a bit further forward and lowered a couple of cm's. He showed me how my back now described an arc like a suspension

Re: [RBW] Re: Was San Marcos - Now Seats Forward on Rivendells

2010-01-14 Thread Rene Sterental
Steve, My experience mirrors yours, in that to avoid hand pain, I was going with extreme setback seatposts and pushing my saddles back on all except for my MTB. The hands felt fine, but the knees hurt and I couldn't really push hard. A Specialized video fit ended up pushing me forward by about

Re: [RBW] Re: Was San Marcos - Now Seats Forward on Rivendells

2010-01-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 14:14 -0800, Rene Sterental wrote: Steve, My experience mirrors yours, in that to avoid hand pain, I was going with extreme setback seatposts and pushing my saddles back on all except for my MTB. The hands felt fine, but the knees hurt and I couldn't really push hard.

Re: [RBW] Re: Was San Marcos - Now Seats Forward on Rivendells

2010-01-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Y'all should read what PJW has to say on bike fitting: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.htm Quoting at nauseous length: The Fore-Aft Saddle Position Now we get to what I think is the most important part of fitting a bicycle, the fore-aft position of the saddle. Once you get this right,