Re: [RBW] OT - Throwback

No pick up games around here, despite two fields couple blocks either way. Kids and baseball mean minivans and gear bags full of multiple three digit aluminum bats, Oakley eyeshades, special water bottles, coolers with Gatorade, latest model cleats, etc. but nothing as sophisticated as a

[RBW] Re: Atlantis maiden voyage

Such a great looking build! I am taking notes while waiting for my own, a 62, to arrive sometime late in the summer. How do you like the Albatross bars? Rusty Pgh, PA On Sunday, March 4, 2018 at 9:14:16 PM UTC-5, Brent P wrote: > > Finished the final buildup details last night and couldn’t

[RBW] Handlebar bag for Bullmoose?

I have Bullmoose bars on my Hunqapillar. My Hilsen and MAP both have rando front bags on decaleurs. They have totally spoiled me and I find myself not choosing the Hunq, even when it is the more appropriate bike, because I only have a saddlebag, thus no access while riding. Is there a good bag

[RBW] Re: Paul Mini moto real world clearances

did you have to pinch the st On Sunday, March 4, 2018 at 11:04:07 PM UTC-5, Reid Echols wrote: > > I’ve cleared the 700x48 Soma supple vitesse tires with minimotos, but that > was with all the spacers to the inside of the brake arms. Still worked ok, > but ymmv. -- You received this message

[RBW] Handlebar bag for Bullmoose?

A Bartube works well on Bullmoose bars. Riv doesn't make them anymore, but there's one on eBay. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Handlebar bag for Bullmoose?

Jandd Mountain Handle Pack I is designed to sit on top of the BullMoose triangle. I have two of them - work great on the Bullmoose and BoscoMoose. Laing Cocoa FL On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 9:56:03 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote: > I have Bullmoose bars on my Hunqapillar. My Hilsen and MAP both have

[RBW] Re: Atlantis maiden voyage

They're the perfect fit for the Atlantis. Very comfortable. I had the Albatross on my Appaloosa and they are a better match for the Atlantis. If anything I might like them just a touch wider. The Jones bar on the Appaloosa spoils me with that wide open reach. Now, of course that won't stop me

Re: [RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

This is my strap system control node, I make them by sticking two sticky velcros together. Very useful for almost everything, but yes, not a dedicated

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones brake choices

Mark, that's a classy caliper & lever set. We had a couple of Takaras in the 80s; kinda wish we had kept them. I'd love to see some pics when you get the Takara set up. Best, Richard On Sunday, March 4, 2018 at 10:30:16 AM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > Funny, I guess Dia Compe was fairly

[RBW] Re: Atlantis maiden voyage

Brent: Congratulations! Looks like a nice build, with all the right goodies. You'll enjoy it for many years. dougP On Sunday, March 4, 2018 at 6:14:16 PM UTC-8, Brent P wrote: > > Finished the final buildup details last night and couldn’t wait any > longer. It was cool, cloudy and blustery

[RBW] Re: Atlantis maiden voyage

Looks really good! Congratulations and welcome to the Atlantis club. Regards, Richard On Sunday, March 4, 2018 at 9:14:16 PM UTC-5, Brent P wrote: > > Finished the final buildup details last night and couldn’t wait any > longer. It was cool, cloudy and blustery winds, but felt good to get out

[RBW] Surly Tuggnut on SimpleOne?

Has anyone used a Surly Tuggnut tensioner? If not, what gadget or method have you found useful that requires only 2 hands to properly tension a single speed chain? I watched this pretty good video

[RBW] Re: Handlebar bag for Bullmoose?

rack and basket and you'll never look back. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Re: Atlantis maiden voyage

Congrats on your Atlantis. FWIW I love the Choco's on mine. On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 7:56:24 AM UTC-8, Brent P wrote: > > They're the perfect fit for the Atlantis. Very comfortable. I had the > Albatross on my Appaloosa and they are a better match for the Atlantis. If > anything I might like

Re: [RBW] 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

I can't speak to Gevenalle shifters (they look great but I haven't tried them yet). I have SRAM double tap shifters on my Cowchippers, and bar-end shifters on other drops. But, I can testify regarding the Salsa Cowchipper bars: excellent! Great shape, great curve, just the right amount of

[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Racer Brakeset, Black, $250

Bump. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] OT - Throwback

That is really sad. We used to play baseball at every opportunity; it was the game of choice during elementary school recess, at least when we weren't playing some violent, little-boy variant of "tag". I wonder what brought about this culture-shift from benign parental neglect to obsessive

[RBW] 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

Haven't chimed in here in a long long time. Curious what folks think. I'm a longtime fan of BE shifters so quite familiar with them. I'm getting ready to convert my Surly Ogre from a Jones Bar to a Cowchipper with a 70mm VO Cigne Stem. I'm running a 10spd Shimano SLX derailer. I'm leaning

[RBW] Surly Tuggnut on SimpleOne?

Hey Tom, I do it all the time in the field as a two hand job. Ride to the trail in high, shift to low, ride up, shift to high, ride down then home. Wind, snow, rain, or shine, 110˚F or -20˚F, it’s a two hand job, so I’m confused how it’s a four hand job. Some of those conditions nobody is dumb

[RBW] Re: Surly Tuggnut on SimpleOne?

I don't (and wouldn't) use a tug nut with a fixed gear. I think I use my knees, like Patrick, as the two extra hands. Easiest with a QR and no fenders, but still easy enough. I do a think where I half-snug the left nut, then push the wheel toward the chain to center the wheel and tension the

[RBW] Re: Paul Mini moto real world clearances

I installed minimotos on a 64 Atlantis with WTB Resolutes, 42mm, and fenders. They'd clear the fenders but not without lightly rubbing on top of the fenders when pulled. Very tight fit. I went back to regular cantis to gain fender clearance both above and below. On Friday, March 2, 2018 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

I use the ground. I gave up trying to keep my bike upright. Gravity simply won the struggle too many times. Of course, I no longer ride with a front load or basket either. Sardonic grin. I found the ground was always there when I needed it, never in the way when I didn’t, always obliging to

[RBW] Re: 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

I have the gevenalle GX 1x short pull. They are great. Shift well, convenient if you're on the hoods a lot. I recommend. On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 12:28:45 PM UTC-5, Leaf Slayer wrote: > > Haven't chimed in here in a long long time. Curious what folks think. I'm > a longtime fan of BE

[RBW] Re: Surly Tuggnut on SimpleOne?

I second the Phillip method of tightening the chain. It's even possible to get the chain too tight! Do it a few times and you'll get a feel for it. One additional thing I do is to put a toe strap through the front wheel and frame to keep it from flopping around. This way you can push forward on

[RBW] Re: 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

Use 1x gevenalle with 11 speed. works very well. Clayton Scott SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

Use 1x gevenalle with 11 speed Dynasys XT der. works very well. Clayton Scott SF, CA On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 9:28:45 AM UTC-8, Leaf Slayer wrote: > > Haven't chimed in here in a long long time. Curious what folks think. I'm > a longtime fan of BE shifters so quite familiar with them. I'm

[RBW] First weekend with the Quickbeam

Last week, I took delivery of the 62cm Quickbeam that was on Ebay. A big "Thank You" to the Sages and Enablers of this list--without your nudges and advice, I would've hemmed and hawed until it was too late. It's one of the Green ones without mid-fork brazeons, and the build is nice: Phil Wood

[RBW] Re: First weekend with the Quickbeam

The Ent-ablers are correct! It is a wonderful bicycle. Congrats and continue the enjoyment! I love my orange QB. On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 2:04:38 PM UTC-5, John G. wrote: > > Last week, I took delivery of the 62cm Quickbeam that was on Ebay. A big > "Thank You" to the Sages and Enablers of

[RBW] Re: First weekend with the Quickbeam

Congrats! Agreed, that build is great. If I had another half inch in the inseam that bike would still be in my garage. Enjoy! Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] First weekend with the Quickbeam

Ain’t nuffin’ like a Quickbeam! Congratulations! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Appaloosa and how to pull more cable

I don't really like the design of those brakelevers. They curve way in towards the bar, like they are 'short reach' levers for riders with small hands. That sacrifices a bunch of additional cable pull that you could have had. If it were me, I might go look for a pair of Dia Compe 287 levers

[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Appaloosa and how to pull more cable

If you are using the tektro linear pull/V brake drop levers, they shouldn't bottom out before fully braking the bike. Is it possible that you have the QR part of the lever set in the "open" position? Otherwise, i think this is a set up issue, probably at the brakes themselves. how close are the

[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Appaloosa and how to pull more cable

I do not have any truly current pictures of my Appaloosa but I took a couple late last year. https://www.flickr.com/photos/21182339@N05/24939405718/in/album-72157682579281726/ If the weather here will clear for more than a day or two, I will get better and more pictures. The bike now has

[RBW] Re: Surly Tuggnut on SimpleOne?

The OP's query is an interesting one though...When is it advisable to use a chain tensioning adjuster device on the rear dropouts/trackends of a single speed bike...(not fixed gear)? Is the general assumption that good quality QR skewers and bolt-on's alike are both strong enough to really keep

[RBW] Happy Birthday to me, from Rivendell

I rode by Rivendell today b/c I'd asked Rich to inspect my front rim for wear. He said it was totally fine. While I was there, Grant stepped out and gave me an envelope with some printed black and whites. On a previous visit with the kids he broke out a camera stand and snapped a few pictures.

Re: [RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

For me, it's all about my kiddo riding on a Yepp seat on a rear rack. With my double kickstand and his weight, the front wheel will always pop up into the air. Without the wheel stabilizer, the front end (bosco bullmoose + front basket) would swing around and hit the top tube. Even with a

[RBW] Surly Tuggnut on SimpleOne?

Thanks guys - I knew there’d be some sage advice from you who’ve done it a zillion times. I’ll try the knee method, though it seems a device like the Tuggnut would still be useful for fine-tuning. Also, I need to check, but it seems like the inner face of the flanged Allen bolt should be

[RBW] Re: 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

In terms of bars (not that you asked but you might enjoy them anyway). I am really enjoying salsa cowchippers for this purpose. They work great with the gevenalle shifter too. Clayton Scott, SF, CA On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 12:33:15 PM UTC-8, Leaf Slayer wrote: > > I just ordered 1x10

[RBW] Re: Surly Tuggnut on SimpleOne?

I used to have a Quickbeam and I used the same technique that Philip describes (except backward). My process: Make sure both nuts are loose. Stand behind the bike and grab the front of the rear wheel with your left hand. Gently pull the wheel back and to the right (push it up against the right

[RBW] FS: Nitto Tallux Stem, Blackburn stainless bottle cages, Arkel small handlebar bag

For sale, gently used equipment from my trusty A H Hilsen. Photos are available to send to your email address until I upload to a hosting site. • Nitto Tallux 90mm 26.0 bar in very good condition. $60 shipped CONUS. • Blackburn stainless steel water bottle holders in excellent condition. $25

[RBW] Re: Happy Birthday to me, from Rivendell

Grant is the best. When my kids were small I had the identical bike train. Bike --> Blue Burley Piccolo --> Blue and Yellow Burley trailer. Now my kids are 'not small'. In fact, this week might mark the week when I weigh less than my son for the first time ever. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito,

[RBW] Re: Happy Birthday to me, from Rivendell

That's pretty awesome! Eamon Seattle > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Re: Happy Birthday to me, from Rivendell

Nice photos, Bill. Ain't America great!? Sean in Mpls On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 4:15:21 PM UTC-6, J Imler wrote: > > I rode by Rivendell today b/c I'd asked Rich to inspect my front rim for > wear. He said it was totally fine. > > While I was there, Grant stepped out and gave me an envelope

[RBW] Drop Bar Appaloosa and how to pull more cable

I have not seen (m)any photos of Appaloosas with a drop bar. I wanted to do something new this spring, and my wallet did not want me to get a new bike, so I put on some drops. I had tried this a few years ago with my Sam, and it never felt great, so I got a shorter stem this time (7cm vs 9cm).

[RBW] FS: New home for 62cm Simple One - currently in Amsterdam

Hey! How much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: FS-Joe Appaloosa

I wish someone would hurry up and buy this awesome bike that happens to be sitting in my garage doing nothing. B17 special now included. PM me for pricing and shipping. On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 12:31:42 PM UTC-6, tc wrote: > > I wish someone would hurry up and buy this awesome bike that

[RBW] Re: 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

I just ordered 1x10 Gevenalle shifters. They'll work with my current gear. I've wanted a drop-bar large volume tire bike for a long time and I'm hoping this will all come together nicely and satisfy that desire. I'll post it up once it's done. While the only identifiably Rivish item on the

[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Appaloosa and how to pull more cable

There is a product called a "Travel Agent" that increases cable pull. A friend has them on his LHT, and he has no complaints. You can find install videos on the inter-web. rusty On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 3:42:59 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote: > > I have not seen (m)any photos of Appaloosas with

[RBW] First weekend with the Quickbeam

Ian, the pool of people who have ridden both will be small, far smaller than the already small pool of people who have ridden one. Grin. My QB (silver, last run) has clearence for 700 x 44 Snoqualme Pass Compass tires with fenders, but only just. I have no idea what geometry tweeks happened

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Tallux Stem, Blackburn stainless bottle cages, Arkel small handlebar bag

Here are photos. https://ibb.co/ckj2Sn https://ibb.co/mDPQf7 https://ibb.co/heZrL7 https://ibb.co/ijbStS On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 4:44:50 PM UTC-6, Sean Cleary wrote: > > For sale, gently used equipment from my trusty A H Hilsen. Photos are > available to send to your email address until I

[RBW] Re: Surly Tuggnut on SimpleOne?

Amplifying what Phil said, I do not think of the Tuggnut as a tension adjuster. I think of the Tuggnut as a slip-prevention device. The OP shows a photo of a White Industries Dos Eno Freewheel on the bike, and what appear to be Phil allen head axle nuts. In order to use both gears, you need

[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Appaloosa and how to pull more cable

Wow...! My money is on what Jeremy is saying Great eye, great (potential) catch!! Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Appaloosa and how to pull more cable

Are the brake levers in the pictures the ones that bottom out? If so, I think you somehow ended up with wrong levers. Those look like Tektro RL340's, which are short-pull (caliper/canti) levers: http://www.tektro.com/products.php?p=72 The RL520's are the v-brake compatible levers and they

Re: [RBW] Re: Surly Tuggnut on SimpleOne?

Sheldon has a method for this: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/no-derailers.html *Start by installing the wheel at approximately the correct position and tightening the axle nuts. They don't need to be super tight at this stage, but should more than finger tight. Check the chain tension and wheel

[RBW] Re: First weekend with the Quickbeam

Quickbeam / SimpleOne remains the best bike I have ever thrown a leg over. Congrats! Eric On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 2:04:38 PM UTC-5, John G. wrote: > > Last week, I took delivery of the 62cm Quickbeam that was on Ebay. A big > "Thank You" to the Sages and Enablers of this list--without your

[RBW] Re: Happy Birthday to me, from Rivendell

That's awesome and exactly what helps make Rivendell Rivendell. On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 5:15:21 PM UTC-5, J Imler wrote: > > I rode by Rivendell today b/c I'd asked Rich to inspect my front rim for > wear. He said it was totally fine. > > While I was there, Grant stepped out and gave me an

[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Appaloosa and how to pull more cable

Detective Till, If you are correct, I am going to be annoyed at my local bike shop but not forever, since they take good care of me. And I did such a good job of wrapping the bars! I'll check it out tonight... but I think you are right, since I had the same problem with flat bars a number

[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Appaloosa and how to pull more cable

Darn it Jeremy was right! Now, I guess I have to un wrap the whole bars and replace the levers and re wrap? Ugg. Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Re: Surly Tuggnut on SimpleOne?

Oh man, this is more great info - Can’t wait to try it out. Thanks! Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] First weekend with the Quickbeam

Except a SimpleOne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] First weekend with the Quickbeam

Ted's post is somewhat enigmatic but raises an interesting question. Is a QB better than a SO or vice versa and if so, in which ways? The QB/SO is something I constantly keep an eye open for as an all year round commuter, which would mean studded tires in winter, so details about tire

[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Appaloosa and how to pull more cable

Before you unwrap your bars, see if the clamps are interchangeable. You may be able to remove the levers from the clamp and mount your new levers to the existing clamps. Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Appaloosa and how to pull more cable

Bingo! I'm almost certain this will work with same-brand levers. Good call, Ray!  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Appaloosa and how to pull more cable

Edwin, Whats the reach as measured from tip o the saddle nose to center of bartop clamp? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Riv and the Wright Brothers

Gary was the point person for Rivendell at Waterford at that time. I remember getting a call from him to finalize what color I wanted my Rivendell Mountain. His Cycles Gaansari 29er was pretty nice. Reginald Alexis On Sunday, March 4, 2018 at 6:36:09 PM UTC-6, RichS wrote: > > John, > >