Re: [RBW] New-to-me Sam! Advice/recommendations?

[Jared Wilson]

*Just* installed some 700x38 Gravelking Sk's on a project bike. 

Haven't had a chance to ride it yet but they seem like a nice product, 
especially for the price.

Measured in at 35.5 on some old Super Champion rims.

-Jared





On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 3:17:34 PM UTC-7 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Some good suggestions coming in! 
>
> I'm VERY interested in the Barlow Pass in the endurance casing. 
> Aesthetically speaking, the RH tires can't be topped. But...I think I might 
> go with the Gravelkings when it comes time. 
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 4:24 PM Garth  wrote:
>
>> Schwalbe Marathon Racers come in a 38, which will be more like a 36 or so 
>> depending on the rim. I ride the 35's, 33.3 actual on 19mm ID rims, and 
>> they ride very nicely, and they last. The only other tire I had that lasted 
>> like these is the Big Ben raceguard ones. I ride mine @35-40 rear, 30-35 
>> front. 
>>
>> On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 4:48:38 PM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>>
>>> Panaracer Gravelking Slicks in 700x38c!
>>>
>>> Patch in NYC
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 2:29:00 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 38mm Barlow Pass fit fine with fenders on my 62cm Sam with sidepull 
 brakes.  44mm Snoqualmie Pass only fit when the fenders were removed.

 On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 10:56:24 AM UTC-7 Paul Richardson 
 wrote:

> that's a great looking bike.  congrats!
>
> i swapped out dura-ace barends for silver1 (downtube) shifters on my 
> homer without issue.  totally straightforward.  if you do so and are 
> looking to rehome the shimanos, i'll take 'em off your hands!
>
> in my experience, you can't go wrong with the 38mm rene herse tires, 
> especially if you're looking to zippy it up and complement the atlantis.  
> they'd almost certainly feel livelier than the schwalbes.
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
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Re: [RBW] New-to-me Sam! Advice/recommendations?

[Ben Mihovk]

Some good suggestions coming in!

I'm VERY interested in the Barlow Pass in the endurance casing.
Aesthetically speaking, the RH tires can't be topped. But...I think I might
go with the Gravelkings when it comes time.



On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 4:24 PM Garth  wrote:

> Schwalbe Marathon Racers come in a 38, which will be more like a 36 or so
> depending on the rim. I ride the 35's, 33.3 actual on 19mm ID rims, and
> they ride very nicely, and they last. The only other tire I had that lasted
> like these is the Big Ben raceguard ones. I ride mine @35-40 rear, 30-35
> front.
>
> On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 4:48:38 PM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>
>> Panaracer Gravelking Slicks in 700x38c!
>>
>> Patch in NYC
>>
>> On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 2:29:00 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 38mm Barlow Pass fit fine with fenders on my 62cm Sam with sidepull
>>> brakes.  44mm Snoqualmie Pass only fit when the fenders were removed.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 10:56:24 AM UTC-7 Paul Richardson wrote:
>>>
 that's a great looking bike.  congrats!

 i swapped out dura-ace barends for silver1 (downtube) shifters on my
 homer without issue.  totally straightforward.  if you do so and are
 looking to rehome the shimanos, i'll take 'em off your hands!

 in my experience, you can't go wrong with the 38mm rene herse tires,
 especially if you're looking to zippy it up and complement the atlantis.
 they'd almost certainly feel livelier than the schwalbes.

 paul
 takoma park, md.

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Re: [RBW] New-to-me Sam! Advice/recommendations?

[Garth]

Schwalbe Marathon Racers come in a 38, which will be more like a 36 or so 
depending on the rim. I ride the 35's, 33.3 actual on 19mm ID rims, and 
they ride very nicely, and they last. The only other tire I had that lasted 
like these is the Big Ben raceguard ones. I ride mine @35-40 rear, 30-35 
front. 

On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 4:48:38 PM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:

> Panaracer Gravelking Slicks in 700x38c!
>
> Patch in NYC
>
> On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 2:29:00 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> 38mm Barlow Pass fit fine with fenders on my 62cm Sam with sidepull 
>> brakes.  44mm Snoqualmie Pass only fit when the fenders were removed.
>>
>> On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 10:56:24 AM UTC-7 Paul Richardson wrote:
>>
>>> that's a great looking bike.  congrats!
>>>
>>> i swapped out dura-ace barends for silver1 (downtube) shifters on my 
>>> homer without issue.  totally straightforward.  if you do so and are 
>>> looking to rehome the shimanos, i'll take 'em off your hands!
>>>
>>> in my experience, you can't go wrong with the 38mm rene herse tires, 
>>> especially if you're looking to zippy it up and complement the atlantis.  
>>> they'd almost certainly feel livelier than the schwalbes.
>>>
>>> paul
>>> takoma park, md.
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] New-to-me Sam! Advice/recommendations?

[Patch T]

Panaracer Gravelking Slicks in 700x38c!

Patch in NYC

On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 2:29:00 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> 38mm Barlow Pass fit fine with fenders on my 62cm Sam with sidepull 
> brakes.  44mm Snoqualmie Pass only fit when the fenders were removed.
>
> On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 10:56:24 AM UTC-7 Paul Richardson wrote:
>
>> that's a great looking bike.  congrats!
>>
>> i swapped out dura-ace barends for silver1 (downtube) shifters on my 
>> homer without issue.  totally straightforward.  if you do so and are 
>> looking to rehome the shimanos, i'll take 'em off your hands!
>>
>> in my experience, you can't go wrong with the 38mm rene herse tires, 
>> especially if you're looking to zippy it up and complement the atlantis.  
>> they'd almost certainly feel livelier than the schwalbes.
>>
>> paul
>> takoma park, md.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] New-to-me Sam! Advice/recommendations?

[David Person]

38mm Barlow Pass fit fine with fenders on my 62cm Sam with sidepull 
brakes.  44mm Snoqualmie Pass only fit when the fenders were removed.

On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 10:56:24 AM UTC-7 Paul Richardson wrote:

> that's a great looking bike.  congrats!
>
> i swapped out dura-ace barends for silver1 (downtube) shifters on my homer 
> without issue.  totally straightforward.  if you do so and are looking to 
> rehome the shimanos, i'll take 'em off your hands!
>
> in my experience, you can't go wrong with the 38mm rene herse tires, 
> especially if you're looking to zippy it up and complement the atlantis.  
> they'd almost certainly feel livelier than the schwalbes.
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>

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Re: [RBW] New-to-me Sam! Advice/recommendations?

[Paul Richardson]

that's a great looking bike.  congrats!

i swapped out dura-ace barends for silver1 (downtube) shifters on my homer 
without issue.  totally straightforward.  if you do so and are looking to 
rehome the shimanos, i'll take 'em off your hands!

in my experience, you can't go wrong with the 38mm rene herse tires, 
especially if you're looking to zippy it up and complement the atlantis.  
they'd almost certainly feel livelier than the schwalbes.

paul
takoma park, md.

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Re: [RBW] New-to-me Sam! Advice/recommendations?

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Ben:

I would certainly change the brake cables. If the housings look ok, leave them 
(especially since changing them would require losing that nice tape/twine job). 
Brake cables fail; housings just get rusty and old.

If the shifter cables look good, you can probably leave them in place. Look 
where the cables go under the bottom bracket. That’s where they will usually 
get rusty and old first. If they look good and work smoothly, apply a little 
oil (such as Phil’s) at the BB shell and leave them. Again, if the housings 
look good, no need to replace them.

Brakes are much more important than shifting—take care of them first!

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

> On Nov 4, 2021, at 9:33 AM, Ben Mihovk  wrote:
> 
> Good morning!
> I've wanted a zippier second bike to complement my lovely Atlantis for a 
> while now, and I finally got one! Up until a couple weeks ago, I made it my 
> plan to buy a Homer frame when they eventually get released, pay for frame 
> prepping, and stash it in my basement, and amass parts over the winter to 
> build it up. But...this lovely Samuel Hillborne came up for sale on eBay and 
> it just felt meant to be. To top it off, the seller was a 3 hour drive away. 
> Long story short, I got it!
> 
> The build is what they used to call "700 Drop Bar Sam Jumbo" Build Kit...it's 
> a 9" stem instead of the listed 11". Nothing super fancy, but all quality! It 
> took me a solid four days to notice the headbage is upside down...not sure I 
> really care, but I did find an RJ the Bike Guy video on headbadge 
> removal/installation if it does end up bugging me. 
> 
> <3.jpg>
> 
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> 
> Here is where I could use some help/recommendations...
> 1. I know I want different tires. It has 40mm Marathon Supremes that measure 
> only 38-39mm. I can't get a 42mm Shikoro in there without contact and trying 
> to adjust the fender. I would like to keep the fenders on for now. I like the 
> Shikoros I have on my Atlantis enough to just get a pair of 38mm and call it 
> a day, but maybe I don't need quite that tough of a tire for paved bike 
> trails, crushed limestone trails, light gravel/dirt roads, etc... What do you 
> like? 
> 
> 2. If you bought an 8 year old bike with all-original parts, would you 
> freshen up the cables/housing or would you just ride until you have a problem?
> 
> 3. It might be kind of fun to throw on some Silver shifters while I'm at it. 
> I like the Shimano Dura-Ace shifters fine, but the Riv website says their 
> downtube Silver Shifters can be put on the Shimano pods. Has anyone any 
> advice or warnings about doing this? 
> 
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[RBW] New to me Sam

[tc]

You will love the That bike - hard not to. It just works. 

Welcome to the Sam club!

Tom

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[RBW] New to me Sam

[Tony DeFilippo]

Great color, allot of good looking Sam's on the list lately!

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[RBW] New to me Sam

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Really nice!  Another request for some build details. What is your bar wrap?

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[RBW] New to me Sam

[Jacob]

Excellent! Love that matching bar tape 

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[RBW] New to me, Sam Hilborne coming soon.

[blakcloud]

The demo Sam Hilborne was up on the Riv site this morning and I bought it. 
Should be here in about two weeks and I am pretty excited. I have never 
bought a bike I have never sat on before, so this is a test and a little 
nerve racking. I will post photos when it arrives and after I modify it 
slightly with parts I have on hand. It comes with drop bars and silver bar 
end shifters, which will be changed out to Albatross bars and Dura Ace bar 
ends. I also have Hetre tires that will be swapped out. Porteur rack and 
basket will be added for functionality. 

This bike will be used for leisure rides with my wife who has her Betty 
Foy. 

I have officially entered the RBW Owners Bunch with my own Rivendell!!

Thomas


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[RBW] New to me Sam

[Edwin W]

Thanks to this group for all of the advice and parts!
Here  is 
my Sam, finally built up in time for my birthday this week.


Basic parts list:
Riv Sugino Chainguard/40/26 I'll run it 1x8, see how often I use the granny 
and that will determine whether I get a FD
Riv's deore RD
Basic 11-32 8sp cassette from LBS
Nothing special wheels - will bring my dynamo over from my current daily 
ride
Gamoh porteur front
Wald 139
Public bikes rear rack (gotta have a spring)
Longboard fenders
Alba
Riv's shimano brake levers
Riv's single microshift bar end shifter (friction left, used on R)
Newbaum's twine and shellac

Super excited to ride!

Interestingly, in this Riv-deficient town (Nashville), I was in my LBS 
picking something up yesterday and they said they had just put together a 
new 52 Sam for a local woman! Now there are two more in this town! I have 
seen another single TT orange Sam, an AHH several cool Rivs and Rivish 
bikes that my friend's neighbor has, but not many others.

For those Riv packers - the LBS staff was duly impressed!

Edwin in Nashville

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