Re: [RBW] R14 or M1 as a saddlebag support?

2022-09-18 Thread Arthur Walther 
Thanks for all the amazing replies and pictures, folks!

It's been really helpful to see the pics of different configurations here.
Keith makes a good point about the front struts of the R14 not designed to 
swivel vertically. I haven't noticed it earlier, and it's a shame that all 
the RBW51 ones are now sold out. It seems to be a superior option in terms 
of adjustability, albeit with a smaller tombstone.
Also agree with Chris - different racks front and rear seem a bit more 
eye-catching, to me at least, and my intended bag is on a larger side 
anyway (same setup as in Nick's message at the top of the page)
Keeping all that in mind, I'd probably try to get my hands on Mark's rack 
for the front and R14 for the rear of the bike, and see if the frame 
builder has any suggestions in terms of the optimal braze-on position.
In any case, I'd always be able to mount Mark's rack for the saddle bag 
support, if I don't manage to set up the R14 properly.

This feels much more like an informed decision, thank you all for the kind 
contributions!
Arthur

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to [email protected].
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9f03b291-0a38-44df-acad-19ebf4dd9e79n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] R14 or M1 as a saddlebag support?

2022-09-18 Thread Arthur Walther 
Thanks for all the amazing replies and pictures, folks!
It's very helpful to see the pics of different configurations here.
Keith makes a good point about the front struts of the R14 not designed to 
swivel vertically. I haven't noticed it earlier, and it's a shame that all 
the RBW51 ones are now sold out. It seems to be a superior option in terms 
of adjustability, albeit with a smaller tombstone.
Also agree with Chris - different racks front and rear seem a bit more 
interesting to my eye, and my intended bag is on a larger side (same setup 
as in Nick's message at the top of the page)
Keeping all that in mind, I'll probably try to get my hands on Mark's rack 
for the front and R14 for the rear of the bike, and see if the frame 
builder has any suggestions in terms of the optimal braze-on position.
In any case, I'd always be able to mount Mark's rack for the saddle bag 
support, if I don't manage to set up the R14 properly.

This feels much more like an informed decision, thank you all for the kind 
contributions!
Arthur

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to [email protected].
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/310df7e9-93ee-434d-b2af-bf6f103aca4an%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] R14 or M1 as a saddlebag support?

2022-09-16 Thread Christopher Rust 
Haven’t used either of these racks on the rear personally but one thing to
consider is that aside from a larger platform the R14 also has a different
shape tombstone.

If you already have the rear bag in mind I’d do some measurements. I
personally don’t like the look of same rack front and rear and if the bag
is particularly large then would lean that way even more.

Chris

On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 3:34 PM Arthur Walther 
wrote:

> Hey folks,
> Arthur here,
> I'm a mechanic and bike messenger and I currently live and work in Berlin,
> Germany.
> I'm getting a custom frame built and I'm planning to use Riv racks to
> support a rando bag in the front and Carradice Camper saddle bag in the
> rear.
> I'm pretty settled on Mark's rack for the front of the bike, but I'm
> pondering the differences between Mark's Rack and R14 used as a saddle bag
> support.
>
> The nearest Rivendell dealer is in the UK, and there is not a whole lot of
> RBW bikes and products over here in Europe, so I don't have access to
> seeing these racks in person, before acquiring them.
> I like the minimalist and clean look and versatility of M1 aka Mark's
> rack, and, according to the BlueLug's blog, the R14 can be considered a
> larger version of this same rack.
> I'm planning to use the rack almost exclusively as a bag support and like
> my saddlebags tucked in directly under the seat, close to the seatpost. I'd
> like to take advantage of the mid-fork and seat stay eyelets as well, even
> though it probably means sacrificing some rigidity.
> Are there any arguments in favor of using either of these racks over the
> other?
> I'd be especially happy to hear recommendations from folks who have
> experience with both these racks, but everyone is welcome to share their
> experience using either of them as a rear rack.
>
> Appreciate your feedback!
>
> A.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to [email protected].
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b511f9d0-bf32-44f8-8421-e2b7209a6929n%40googlegroups.com
> 
> .
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to [email protected].
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAMT%3Dzo7k1giBQNyWmhGm%2B6Jt-pSiz5M8ZRm6cfZ3czNOMw4sTg%40mail.gmail.com.

Re: [RBW] R14 or M1 as a saddlebag support?

2022-09-14 Thread Brian Turner 
The R14 is a great rack, but it’s pretty long. That could be a good thing if 
you’re primarily using it as a bag support because you will still have room to 
strap other small things to it. I have both versions of the R14; both with and 
without the tombstone, but for a bad support, I’d definitely go with the 
tombstone version.

I really like the idea of the Mark’s rack on the rear. If you’ve got the 
braze-ons to mount it high and tight.

For my Crust Bombora, I’m hoping to one day find one of the black Mark’s racks 
to use as a rear saddlebag support because I like how compact it is. It should 
compliment my black F32 rack that I keep on the front as a handlebar bag 
support.

> On Sep 14, 2022, at 4:34 PM, Arthur Walther  wrote:
> 
> Hey folks, 
> Arthur here,
> I'm a mechanic and bike messenger and I currently live and work in Berlin, 
> Germany.
> I'm getting a custom frame built and I'm planning to use Riv racks to support 
> a rando bag in the front and Carradice Camper saddle bag in the rear.
> I'm pretty settled on Mark's rack for the front of the bike, but I'm 
> pondering the differences between Mark's Rack and R14 used as a saddle bag 
> support.
> 
> The nearest Rivendell dealer is in the UK, and there is not a whole lot of 
> RBW bikes and products over here in Europe, so I don't have access to seeing 
> these racks in person, before acquiring them.
> I like the minimalist and clean look and versatility of M1 aka Mark's rack, 
> and, according to the BlueLug's blog, the R14 can be considered a larger 
> version of this same rack.
> I'm planning to use the rack almost exclusively as a bag support and like my 
> saddlebags tucked in directly under the seat, close to the seatpost. I'd like 
> to take advantage of the mid-fork and seat stay eyelets as well, even though 
> it probably means sacrificing some rigidity.
> Are there any arguments in favor of using either of these racks over the 
> other?
> I'd be especially happy to hear recommendations from folks who have 
> experience with both these racks, but everyone is welcome to share their 
> experience using either of them as a rear rack.
> 
> Appreciate your feedback!
> A.
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to [email protected].
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b511f9d0-bf32-44f8-8421-e2b7209a6929n%40googlegroups.com.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to [email protected].
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8B1DF8F0-42B4-4376-B462-1A9CA09EEE31%40gmail.com.

[RBW] R14 or M1 as a saddlebag support?

2022-09-14 Thread Arthur Walther 
Hey folks, 
Arthur here,
I'm a mechanic and bike messenger and I currently live and work in Berlin, 
Germany.
I'm getting a custom frame built and I'm planning to use Riv racks to 
support a rando bag in the front and Carradice Camper saddle bag in the 
rear.
I'm pretty settled on Mark's rack for the front of the bike, but I'm 
pondering the differences between Mark's Rack and R14 used as a saddle bag 
support.

The nearest Rivendell dealer is in the UK, and there is not a whole lot of 
RBW bikes and products over here in Europe, so I don't have access to 
seeing these racks in person, before acquiring them.
I like the minimalist and clean look and versatility of M1 aka Mark's rack, 
and, according to the BlueLug's blog, the R14 can be considered a larger 
version of this same rack.
I'm planning to use the rack almost exclusively as a bag support and like 
my saddlebags tucked in directly under the seat, close to the seatpost. I'd 
like to take advantage of the mid-fork and seat stay eyelets as well, even 
though it probably means sacrificing some rigidity.
Are there any arguments in favor of using either of these racks over the 
other?
I'd be especially happy to hear recommendations from folks who have 
experience with both these racks, but everyone is welcome to share their 
experience using either of them as a rear rack.

Appreciate your feedback!
A.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to [email protected].
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b511f9d0-bf32-44f8-8421-e2b7209a6929n%40googlegroups.com.