[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-11 Thread Ryan Fleming
late to the party but in a fairly recent blug Dave mantioned that Atlanti, Hunqs ,and HH's wait times were almost longer than customs. I suspect the fact that True Temper is no longer manufacturing frame tubing is a contributing factor and Riv/Waterford is sourcing frame tubing

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-09 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
The more substantial changes in the Clems are the now-straight seat stays and the smaller seat tube. The originals also had the "speed-blend nipples." A little surprised it comes with 9-speed. I just could not get the SunRace shifters to work for me, switched them out for stem shifters. Enjoy

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-08 Thread Joe Bernard
I got my Cheviot-green 52 CLEM L (complete) today; a couple of interesting notes: It uses a 9-speed drivetrain instead of 8 from the first run, and the SunRace upside-down-backwards friction shifters are the higher-level series with a click or friction option on the left-supposed-to-be-right

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-08 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
I've been waiting for someone to mention this. I scanned the newsletter 3 times to find more information on the Clem based on the title and nothing was detailed on it. I assumed that another communication would be forthcoming to discuss the topic but nothing to date has been brought up about

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-08 Thread wesleya
I'm more than a little tempted to scoop one up. Even with the wheelset, it would be a relatively gentle introduction to the world of Riv. I've just got to see how a few things work out. Thanks again, y'all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-08 Thread Garth
Correction .,,, that's "any ways" ! Sheeesh ☺it sure would be nice if we could simply edit these things, I mean hey, are we using typewriters or is what ? Ahahahahaha ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-08 Thread Garth
The Clem H is not being discontinued or anything like that since it seems to be popular for them ! Only Riv knows why they do not state on the sale page that new models and colors are coming in October, which is clearly stated in the Blug. It seems different people may be updating each each or

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-07 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Good decision. I am 5'10" with a saddle height of 73.5 or so, depending. My 52cm Clementine is a perfect fit. The 59 is a BIG bike. I know what you mean about having a wheelset on hand, but I would not let that be the driver here. Get one this moment !;^) On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 6:06:49

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-06 Thread Joe Bernard
This is good general advice about any Rivbike these days. The domestic frames tend to hold steady as available if you wait long enough, but that wait seems to be getting longer. The Taiwan models are available on the spot once released as 'for sale', but they all qualify as limited runs of one

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-06 Thread iamkeith
Regarding "not getting one yet, and keeping it on the radar": The subject line of the recent newsletter said "last of the Clems," but then never elaborated in the newsletter itself. If you think you want one, I'm thinking it might be good to do so sooner than later, or at least ask riv what

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-06 Thread Garth
That's a good choice ! If it doesn't feel right, save your cash for another day or bike or whatever. Neither size may really suit you in a Clem. 7 cm. is just too much of a difference, even 4 is large. The one size fits many approach so reminds me of mainstream big brand bike sales which has

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-06 Thread wesleya
Well, thanks everybody. I think I'd sleep better at night with the 52 (I can share it, I can shrink and still ride it, etc.). I don't think I'll get one just this moment, but I'll keep it on my radar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-06 Thread Joe Bernard
Hmm, I'm going from a 45 to 52 and still will have a little more than a fistful of post showing. I'd be leary of a frame with the saddle slammed like your pic shows. I would get confirmed seatpost-to-headtube numbers and make sure you get a length that works with an Albatross. Keep in mind that

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-06 Thread Ray Varella
One other thing to consider, is there a possibility you will share this bike with anyone or have guests who could use it? Since step through frames offer a lot of flexibility in sizing you may add that into your decision making process. If people shorter than you might use the bike then it

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-06 Thread wesleya
I called, and so far two folks have agreed a 59 would work, but it probably would have the seat pretty much all the way down. It's a bummer that I'd have to spring for the wheels for the 52, but it's not such a big deal. It's more important that it fits! Anyway, how do you measure effective

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-06 Thread wesleya
Also, I'd be running Albatross bars unless I opt for the complete (a possibility for sure with the 52, as my parts are nothing too special, an older Acera groupset). On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 1:07:38 PM UTC-5, Davey Two Shoes wrote: > > I'm 5'10 with 83 pbh. I went 52 with the lugged nitto

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-06 Thread wesleya
Here's a picture of the 59 at what would be my saddle height. It does give me pause being so low. https://ibb.co/bMuh9v I do appreciate the advice. The top tube length is a bit tricky to compare. My brother's 54 Surly LHT clocks in at 55.5, and I could do more but 64 might be pushing it with

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-05 Thread Jay Connolly
Garth, I have a silver Jones Loop (710) that I'm going to try. I have an 80mm stem on hand with a 31.8 collar to take the Jones, and I think the fit will be good. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-05 Thread Garth
I'm in a similar place Jay, put my name in for the 64 -L. ,and waiting on final dimensions for a decision. No bosco for me either, I'm 6'3" and a 59 wouldn't work for me in front-center, I need it longer. I don't need the 64cm seat tube height either, but I would still have a fistfull of post

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-05 Thread Davey Two Shoes
I'm 5'10 with 83 pbh. I went 52 with the lugged nitto seatpost all the way back. I like it. On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 8:54:22 PM UTC-4, wesleya wrote: > > I'm on the fence. I can build up a 59 Clem L, but for a 52 I'd need to > spring for the wheels. I'm 5' 10", 84 stand over, so I'm close.

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-05 Thread adam leibow
I'm 5'-8" w/ 87.5cm pbhand I would just get the 59cm, especially if it's the L. i have a 60cm cheviot and it's good On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 5:54:22 PM UTC-7, wesleya wrote: > > I'm on the fence. I can build up a 59 Clem L, but for a 52 I'd need to > spring for the wheels. I'm 5' 10", 84