[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question

2012-09-17 Thread David Spranger 
Official word from Rivendell is that the Dia-Compe 750 will work on the 
Hilsen frame.

Thanks for everyone's input.


David
Charlotte, NC

On Monday, September 17, 2012 11:28:55 AM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:
>
> Pete, Thanks for that great information! 
>
> David
> Charlotte, NC
>
> On Monday, September 17, 2012 9:44:59 AM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote:
>>
>> David-
>>
>> The 610 maxes out at 61mm, so it probably won't work. Sounds like the 750 
>> would be perfect, though. According to VeloBase the range on the 750's is 
>> 60-78mm.
>>
>> I had the 750's on my sidepull Sam for a while and they were really nice. 
>> They fit nicely over a 45mm fender with no pinching and would probably 
>> clear a 50.
>>
>> -Pete in CT
>>
>> On Monday, September 17, 2012 7:21:38 AM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Peter,
>>>
>>> Thanks, I would be interested. Do you know what the reach is on these 
>>> brakes? Will they work for the Hilsen? Per the geometry chart, the Hilsen 
>>> effective brake reach is 65.
>>>
>>> David
>>> Charlotte, NC
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:02:38 PM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote:

 David 
 I (think) I have a set of NOS 610's in the parts box if you find out 
 the 750 are too long. The original 610 was forged, and has a more classic 
 look, vs the new Grand Compes which are CNCd IIRC.

 Pete in CT

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[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question

2012-09-17 Thread David Spranger 
Pete, Thanks for that great information! 

David
Charlotte, NC

On Monday, September 17, 2012 9:44:59 AM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote:
>
> David-
>
> The 610 maxes out at 61mm, so it probably won't work. Sounds like the 750 
> would be perfect, though. According to VeloBase the range on the 750's is 
> 60-78mm.
>
> I had the 750's on my sidepull Sam for a while and they were really nice. 
> They fit nicely over a 45mm fender with no pinching and would probably 
> clear a 50.
>
> -Pete in CT
>
> On Monday, September 17, 2012 7:21:38 AM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:
>>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> Thanks, I would be interested. Do you know what the reach is on these 
>> brakes? Will they work for the Hilsen? Per the geometry chart, the Hilsen 
>> effective brake reach is 65.
>>
>> David
>> Charlotte, NC
>>
>> On Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:02:38 PM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote:
>>>
>>> David 
>>> I (think) I have a set of NOS 610's in the parts box if you find out the 
>>> 750 are too long. The original 610 was forged, and has a more classic look, 
>>> vs the new Grand Compes which are CNCd IIRC.
>>>
>>> Pete in CT
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question

2012-09-17 Thread Peter Pesce 
David-

The 610 maxes out at 61mm, so it probably won't work. Sounds like the 750 
would be perfect, though. According to VeloBase the range on the 750's is 
60-78mm.

I had the 750's on my sidepull Sam for a while and they were really nice. 
They fit nicely over a 45mm fender with no pinching and would probably 
clear a 50.

-Pete in CT

On Monday, September 17, 2012 7:21:38 AM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> Thanks, I would be interested. Do you know what the reach is on these 
> brakes? Will they work for the Hilsen? Per the geometry chart, the Hilsen 
> effective brake reach is 65.
>
> David
> Charlotte, NC
>
> On Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:02:38 PM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote:
>>
>> David 
>> I (think) I have a set of NOS 610's in the parts box if you find out the 
>> 750 are too long. The original 610 was forged, and has a more classic look, 
>> vs the new Grand Compes which are CNCd IIRC.
>>
>> Pete in CT
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question

2012-09-17 Thread David Spranger 
Hi Peter,

Thanks, I would be interested. Do you know what the reach is on these 
brakes? Will they work for the Hilsen? Per the geometry chart, the Hilsen 
effective brake reach is 65.

David
Charlotte, NC

On Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:02:38 PM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote:
>
> David 
> I (think) I have a set of NOS 610's in the parts box if you find out the 
> 750 are too long. The original 610 was forged, and has a more classic look, 
> vs the new Grand Compes which are CNCd IIRC.
>
> Pete in CT
>

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[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question

2012-09-16 Thread bingomck 
Congrats! Was watching him drop by $50 each time. Should be an amazing bike, 
and 4 is nothing! 

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[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question

2012-09-16 Thread Peter Pesce 
David 
I (think) I have a set of NOS 610's in the parts box if you find out the 750 
are too long. The original 610 was forged, and has a more classic look, vs the 
new Grand Compes which are CNCd IIRC.

Pete in CT

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[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question

2012-09-16 Thread David Spranger 
I have the Tektro/Silver equivalent on my Rambouillet, but it is a job to 
keep them from squeezing the fenders. I like the idea of maximizing the 
fender/tire clearance with center pulls.

David

On Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:13:25 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:
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> David,
>>  
>>
> You don't want the Silver Sidepulls on it? 
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[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question

2012-09-16 Thread David Spranger 
Thanks for the info! I will call Riv to see what they say.

On Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:10:56 PM UTC-4, Matthew J wrote:
>
> You will still want to contact Rivendell (or wait to see if someone here 
> has tried same)' but I did some sleuthing that may help.
>
> Paul says Racers have minimum 57' maximum 67 reach.  Riv says the Dia 
> Compes have minimum 63 to 78.  Here is a picture of my old Hilsen on 
> Cyclofiend:
>
> http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2007/cc238-joelmatthews0107.html
>
> From the picture it appears the pads are at least 3/4s down the slot.  So 
> they may be past the Dia Compe minimum 63.
>
> Best I can do.
>
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[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question

2012-09-16 Thread David Spranger 
Yep. That would be me. Its a sickness. I don't need four bikes, but that is 
now what I have.

David

On Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:42:29 PM UTC-4, bingomck wrote:
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> David, did you just win the 63 on ebay? 

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[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question

2012-09-16 Thread lungimsam 

>
> David,
>  
>
You don't want the Silver Sidepulls on it? 

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[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question

2012-09-16 Thread Matthew J 
You will still want to contact Rivendell (or wait to see if someone here has 
tried same)' but I did some sleuthing that may help.

Paul says Racers have minimum 57' maximum 67 reach.  Riv says the Dia Compes 
have minimum 63 to 78.  Here is a picture of my old Hilsen on Cyclofiend:

http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2007/cc238-joelmatthews0107.html

>From the picture it appears the pads are at least 3/4s down the slot.  So they 
>may be past the Dia Compe minimum 63.

Best I can do.

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[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question

2012-09-16 Thread bingomck 
David, did you just win the 63 on ebay? 

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[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question

2012-09-16 Thread David Spranger 
Thanks. I may just do that if I cannot find a center pull alternative. I am 
in no rush to build this bike up, and in fact had to agree to hold off on 
further bike related purchases after plunking down the cash for the frame.

David

On Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:09:21 PM UTC-4, JL wrote:
>
> I think the dia compe 750s might be too long,  even at the highest point 
> of the brake pads.   Have you looked at the gran compe 610?   It looks like 
> a high quality brake with a lower price than the paul brakes have.   I have 
> to say though, paul brakes are worth saving up for if you can wait.
>
> Jl
> On Sep 16, 2012 11:21 AM, "David Spranger" > 
> wrote:
>
>> Should have said, Pauls are well outside of my budget. Looking for 
>> something more affordable. Anyone try the Dia-Compes on their Homer? Other 
>> long reach center pulls out there?
>>
>> On Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:50:45 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:
>>>
>>>  +1 on the Paul Racers -- work great.
>>>
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>>> *Subject:* [RBW] A. Homer Hilsen brake question
>>>
>>>  Anyone have any knowledge or experience on whether the Dia-Compe Mod 
>>> 750 Centerpull Brakes 
>>> (http://www.rivbike.com/**product-p/brcp1.htm
>>> ) will work with the 700c Hilsen? Other centerpull  brake options? 
>>>
>>>  Thanks,
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>>> Charlotte, NC
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[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question

2012-09-16 Thread J L 
I think the dia compe 750s might be too long,  even at the highest point of
the brake pads.   Have you looked at the gran compe 610?   It looks like a
high quality brake with a lower price than the paul brakes have.   I have
to say though, paul brakes are worth saving up for if you can wait.

Jl
On Sep 16, 2012 11:21 AM, "David Spranger"  wrote:

> Should have said, Pauls are well outside of my budget. Looking for
> something more affordable. Anyone try the Dia-Compes on their Homer? Other
> long reach center pulls out there?
>
> On Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:50:45 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:
>>
>>  +1 on the Paul Racers -- work great.
>>
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>> googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *David Spranger
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:49 PM
>> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com
>> *Subject:* [RBW] A. Homer Hilsen brake question
>>
>>  Anyone have any knowledge or experience on whether the Dia-Compe Mod
>> 750 Centerpull Brakes 
>> (http://www.rivbike.com/**product-p/brcp1.htm
>> ) will work with the 700c Hilsen? Other centerpull  brake options?
>>
>>  Thanks,
>> David Spranger
>> Charlotte, NC
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