[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop?

2023-07-03 Thread Miles T
Looks like a comfy ride! I remember reading a tidbit on how riv lengthens their head tubes on stepthrus so the joints of the down tube and top tube aren’t so congested. That bike illustrates the congestion point! Not sure if it’s solely for aesthetics or if there’s more to it… On Thursday,

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop?

2023-06-30 Thread iamkeith
Wow, that's awesome. In a recent thread, i put together a quick photo montage showing what I imagined to be the history and lineage of the "swoop-tube" idea, but I left out the "no idea is new" example. On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 10:01:27 AM UTC-6 John Johnson wrote: > Seen in Paris near

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2021-06-20 Thread Zack Medow
Sad to hear it, but not unexpected given the supply chain crisis. On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 12:22 PM Jason Fuller wrote: > Been a good while since an update, so here is a bad one: the ETA on > Charlies was pushed from Jan 2022 to "on hold indefinitely". Just no room > in the production schedule

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2021-06-16 Thread Chris L
I've said many times that I wish my Hunqapillar was tig welded, powder coated a single neutral color and half the price. Colored head-tubes and splashy decals aren't my thing and are something I have to tolerate since nobody else* makes what I want in a bike. I do like the attention to

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2021-06-16 Thread J S
Tom, that was done years ago with the Bleriot. On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 4:17 PM Tom Wyland wrote: > If I was Riv President for a day, I would ponder if adding a lower-cost > all-rounder bike would cut into sales of the other models. Clem and > Roadini (tigged lower-cost frames) are on the rough

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2021-06-16 Thread Jason Fuller
There have indeed been some cool collaboration frames, though I feel like they all suffer from the same sales-related issue as Rivs themselves often have: they're ahead of their time. Rivendells from 5 or 10 years ago would fly off the shelves today compared to their sales at the time, because

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2021-06-16 Thread luckyturnip
Grant has designed more than a few bikes for other companies. The one I can think of off the top of my head is the Brooklyn Bike Company Driggs. But I know what you’re saying…there’s something about that Rivendell name on the bike. Funny enough, I recall that back in 1994 or so, when I bought my

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2021-06-16 Thread Tom Wyland
If I was Riv President for a day, I would ponder if adding a lower-cost all-rounder bike would cut into sales of the other models. Clem and Roadini (tigged lower-cost frames) are on the rough terrain and road ends of the spectrum. The premium equivalents are the Hillibikes and AHH. All of

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2021-06-16 Thread Jason Fuller
Been a good while since an update, so here is a bad one: the ETA on Charlies was pushed from Jan 2022 to "on hold indefinitely". Just no room in the production schedule / material procurement to make a new model happen in the scheduled future. This is per James at Riv - sounds highly likely

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-11-07 Thread Jason Fuller
I haven't heard evidence of more than the two prototypes (though I'm far from "in the know" as well), the one which is silver-ish might be the color but I don't see any blue in it.. Interesting that that page notes the frameset, since I was last told they would only be offered as completes.

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-11-07 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks. I did come across that page, but I'd like to see a photo. Anyone? On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 9:02 AM Chase Granoff wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > I came across it this morning... just searched Gallop on the Riv site and > found the link. No photos. Just specs and such. > > Strange... the link

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-11-07 Thread Chase Granoff
Hi Patrick, I came across it this morning... just searched Gallop on the Riv site and found the link. No photos. Just specs and such. Strange... the link should still work (it is for me). Try this: https://www.rivbike.com/products/charlie-h-gallop-frame-fork Chase On Saturday, November 7,

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-11-07 Thread Patrick Moore
Can anyone post a photo or a link to a photo? I missed this one. When did it appear? Googling brings up a 404 on the Riv site and misc cartoon fish and people photos elsewhere. On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 8:36 AM Chase Granoff wrote: > This might be old news.. but I was looking for something on the

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-11-07 Thread Chase Granoff
This might be old news.. but I was looking for something on the Riv site and came across this: https://www.rivbike.com/products/charlie-h-gallop-frame-fork?_pos=10&_sid=deda5f283&_ss=r On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 9:24:49 AM UTC-4 Dorothy C wrote: > Eamon, on Instagram last week when

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-09-26 Thread Dorothy C
Eamon, on Instagram last week when Will’s new Susie was pictured, in the comment there was a summary of ETA’s on frames, snipped from the newsletter. When someone asked about any plans for the Roadini he said “Not in the foreseeable future. Of course, that does not mean “forever.” On Friday,

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-09-25 Thread Eamon Nordquist
Is the Roadini discontinued, and the Charlie H Gallop it’s replacement? If so, I guess I understand why they may have chosen to go with caliper brakes over canti/v-brakes. I suppose I’m not 100% against the change. It is an interesting bike either way. Eamon Seattle -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-09-22 Thread Ash
Zem, I did not ride it that day. In normal times I'd be comfortable requesting a ride and being the most awesome bunch, Riv folks would have set it up for me. This stop was supposed to be for a socially-distanced order pickup. I was glad they hung out with me and chatted briefly and

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-09-22 Thread zem...@gmail.com
Ash - any ride quality impressions relative to the Roadini or other Riv models? On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 6:19:32 PM UTC-4 Ash wrote: > Recently I had a chance to look at CGH prototype in person at WHQ. A > worthy successor to the Roadini. I really liked what I saw.Was ready >

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-09-20 Thread Ash
Recently I had a chance to look at CGH prototype in person at WHQ. A worthy successor to the Roadini. I really liked what I saw.Was ready to put the money down if they would take it! I'd have replaced those mini V-brakes with the upcoming Cantis. But if CHG comes with no canti

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-09-19 Thread Eamon Nordquist
Dang, I really wanted to get one of these, and hoped to be gainfully employed again by the time they are out. I’m no really interested anymore if it’s going to be made for long reach calipers. I don’t understand that change, but wish them well. Being able to run cantis was what was sealing the

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-09-19 Thread Joel Stern
I had a hard time getting all the parts I needed for a recent build. I would buy what you can afford now just in case. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 10:11 PM Mark Roland wrote: > You should start buying them 6 months ago. I tried telling my local bike > shop guy that (6 months ago), to start

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-09-19 Thread Mark Roland
You should start buying them 6 months ago. I tried telling my local bike shop guy that (6 months ago), to start stockpiling the basicsnope. He's out of almost everything, though he did manage to score some inner tubes from his Jamis dealer. He can't even get bottom brackets from the

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-09-19 Thread Joel
I did not see that much info posted. What are the sizes? On Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 8:18:23 PM UTC-4 John G. wrote: > The September email update teases a new bike: the Charlie H Gallop. > PREDICTIONS! GO! > > Mine: MIT lugged road-ish bike with Cantis. 650B even at the largest size.

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-09-19 Thread Leah Peterson
I saw the timeline, Jason, and was disappointed on your behalf. It seemed like it would arrive so much sooner. It WAS encouraging, however, to see that Riv has several upcoming orders. If the timeline is right, I only have to wait 2 more months for a Platypus. Which is nothing since I’ve been

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-09-19 Thread Jason Fuller
As the self-appointed CHG messenger bird: - Timeline as been pushed out (it seems) to next summer for delivery. Pre-sale was previously set up for Nov - Jan range, not sure if this is changing - Brakes will be long-reach sidepull caliper brakes like the Homer etc. Unfortunately IMO.

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-25 Thread Jason Fuller
Yeah I am very much not sold with the appearance with the drop bars, but I am going to run mine with an upright bar (MAP / Ahearne bar, to be exact) and I've come around on that. Or, more accurately, I've come to really like the look of Gus/Suzie and I can by extension accept the Charlie. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-23 Thread Eamon Nordquist
I love that silver, although it’s partly because it reminds me of the early 80’s Treks, with their great Imron paint jobs. Mostly, I am just really loving that bike. I have to stop looking at it, as I currently have no job :( and the pandemic is going to make it harder to get one, so the last

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-23 Thread Jason Fuller
What I am most interested in now is what the colors are going to be (same as the prototypes? or different?) and what the downtube logo will look like. I am hoping for an understated color that isn't too boring - ie classic Riv blue would be great, but I don't like that silver too much. --

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-20 Thread Andy Beichler
That looks great. On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 6:57:37 PM UTC-4, Jason Fuller wrote: > > You underestimate my parts bin! I could build both complete, other than > the new wheelset, but you're very right that it's only a $750 increase over > the frameset (give or take, depending where it

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-20 Thread Whatcha Oughtter
Mini v brakes that can be used with normal-pull road brake levers. I had tektros that worked great on a drop bar conversion MB-2. I also had mtb lever shifters on the top of the bars and I’d do that again too. Room for 42mm tires? Time to start saving $$!!! -John -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-19 Thread Jason Fuller
Ash, yes - 10 minutes after I get my order in! :D But in all seriousness, I don't know, sounds like they need to sort out the build kits first and getting parts is tricky this year, so that's kind of the biggest delay. The frame itself sounds to be pretty solidified, which is promising. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-19 Thread Ash
Jason, Any intel on when can I order one of these?!! On Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 15:04:14 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote: > James told me some stuff today about the Charlie H Gallop and I've kept > the secret for a full hour now - I hope he wasn't expecting me to hold it > in longer than

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-19 Thread Jason Fuller
Those are 700 x 42. I may already have a pair of 700 x 38 GravelKing's I got for my future CHG which I'll run with fenders :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-19 Thread Eamon Nordquist
I love it. I’m not sure what size tires are on that, but they look pretty fat, and there still appears to be plenty of room for fenders. It looks like it would make a nice light all road bike. I agree with Bill’s Roadini comparison. Eamon Seattle -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-18 Thread 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch
They look like V-brakes to me. You can see the noodle in the front cable line. And, a side pull doesn't easily work in the rear because of the cable routing to the brake arm with the housing stop. That Saddlesack would get in the way. I don't recognize the brakes -- TRP? Same ornate seat

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-18 Thread lambbo
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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-18 Thread Eric Daume
>From the CHG drawings, it looks like the tubing might actually be smaller diameter than the Roadini. The Roadini (at least in my 61cm size), has a 28.6~31.8 top tube, while the CHG looks to be 25.4 that is squished various ways. That would be a nice change--the Roadini is plenty stout. Eric On

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-18 Thread Jason Fuller
Totally! Which is exactly what I'd hoped for. I don't know what the tubing is on the Roadini but I imagine this is similar, maybe one step up in wall thickness. Normally I'd want 650B in my size but since I can "size up" more comfortably with the curved top tube, the 700c will be proportional.

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
That looks like they took a Roadini, gave it slightly bigger tire clearance, added Canti posts, and curved the top tube. I approve. I wonder if it's 130mm in back or 135mm I also wonder if that's a 35 year old Suntour BL front der on that build. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-18 Thread Joe Bernard
For $1650 you get a complete bike and can sell your Clem H without pilfering any parts from it. Winner!  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-18 Thread Jason Fuller
James told me some stuff today about the Charlie H Gallop and I've kept the secret for a full hour now - I hope he wasn't expecting me to hold it in longer than that :D - They will be sold as completes with Clem-like pricing (I don't know if they'll be drop bar, upright, or both options) -

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-14 Thread Mark Roland
Yeah. Most bikes are stolen as crimes of opportunity--unlocked, unattended. Then you have the semi-pros--they have cutters and can get at cheaper locks quickly. It's doubtful whether they will discriminate much as long as the bike looks like it can bring $10+. I understand there is a small

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-13 Thread Jason Fuller
I have a hard time believing anyone outside the Riv-fam will find the curved top tube of the CHG attractive ;) Honestly, the silver-grey proto looks like a 1990s "multi-track" hybrid bike to me; extremely low key IMO. It'll be a TIG frame in the ~$900 range (I hope), but more importantly

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-13 Thread Eric Daume
I can’t see how locking and leaving the CHG would be any less stressful than the Sam. Maybe more so, since the Sam looks a bit older fashioned and maybe less attractive to thieves. On Thursday, August 13, 2020, Jason Fuller wrote: > Yesterday I went for a ~50km ride with a couple buddies, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-08-13 Thread Jason Fuller
Yesterday I went for a ~50km ride with a couple buddies, and we had to lock up our bikes at the entrance to the park because it was no bikes - which was stressful for me on the Hillborne. Now, my Clem I am comfortable locking up in those types of situations, but it's really tough to keep up

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-07-18 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
That’s it! Thanks and glad I wasn’t making up the “... complete non-custom for about the same cost as a full custom frame” suggestion. I also realize I replied to Scott’s message basically restating exactly what he and some above had stated. Sorry about that. The cost comparison 4K vs 4K was

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-07-17 Thread kim young
the Rivnobi! https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/no-4-2020-early-feb-topics?_pos=9&_sid=5f9834c54&_ss=r On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 9:20 AM Coal Bee Rye Anne < lionsrugbyalu...@gmail.com> wrote: > My memory is quite hazy lately but I vaguely recall mention of a >

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-07-17 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
My memory is quite hazy lately but I vaguely recall mention of a 'complete-only' offering in the works being something in collaboration with Mark Nobilette - maybe non-custom-made-to-orders or something along those lines? I think the gist of it was a complete Nobilette made Rivendell for

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-07-17 Thread scott minor
Ah, I hope that’s the case. I’m increasingly attracted to the Gallup and very curious about its development moving forward. As for the complete-only bikes, yes I recall now that those are to be Nobilette built bikes offered as completes, not the Gallup. Thanks for chiming in and helping

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-07-17 Thread Mark Roland
My understanding is that it will be offered both complete and as a frameset, with the frameset being more available than recent Clem framesets, which lately have only been offered in limited quantities after all the completes ship out. Not sure if that was a phone conversation with Rivendell,

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-07-16 Thread kim young
I remember reading- sometime back in winter. Mark was building up some not quite custom, but fancy complete bikes. forget what they were called now... ‘raviolis’ ...? Lol. Something like that. On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:44 PM scott minor wrote: > Is this the bike Grant wrote about a while back

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-07-16 Thread scott minor
Is this the bike Grant wrote about a while back that will be offered as complete-only? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-07-16 Thread Mark Roland
That is one nifty looking bicycle. It seems counterintuitive, but I like the swooptop style more than the traditional sloping top tube. It may have started way back with the first prototype photo of the Clementine (2014?). My immediate reaction was, that is the ugliest. I guess I then had a

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-07-15 Thread 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch
As Jason noted in a July 10th post, there is also a nice orange Gallop frame hanging above the silver one. David in Berkeley (who wishes the smaller ones were to be made as 650b) On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 8:47:57 AM UTC-7, Jeff B wrote: > > If anyone zoomed in enough in the last email

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-07-13 Thread Andy Beichler
That is lovely. On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 12:47:18 AM UTC-4, masmojo wrote: > > My Poly. > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/JDVudtqU6Jpw6dm2A > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-07-12 Thread masmojo
SOMA Saga is a great bike! Excellent Choice. That VO Poly Low kicker is intriguing; I like the thru Axles & 1.1/8" steer tube and its very tempting to sell my Polyvalent & get one of those, because I virtually have ALL the spare components I need to build it! But, part of the reason I don't

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-07-12 Thread Brett Callahan
That's a great looking build. I recently helped a friend build up a purple poly, and it is an impressive bike. Easy to build. I'd very much reccommend it to anyone who wants "Riv-adjacent" aesthetics with disc brakes. If Riv is going to push for more riders to ride V brakes with drops,

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-07-11 Thread masmojo
My Poly. https://photos.app.goo.gl/JDVudtqU6Jpw6dm2A -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-07-11 Thread masmojo
Just to chime in on VO Polyvalent. I bought one of the lilac ones and set it up as close to the set up of my Atlantis as I possibly could. Albastash bars, dynamo hub, etc. Now it should be noted that there was a difference in frame size due to the difference between the 26" wheeled Alantis and

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-07-10 Thread Mark Roland
Hmmm. Testing could be a little difficult. Who at Rivendell remembers how to ride a drop bar bike?;^) On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 7:59:53 PM UTC-4, Jason Fuller wrote: > > I feel compelled to update this thread with the photo of the two prototype > Gallop's from the RBW email today; built up

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-07-10 Thread Jason Fuller
I feel compelled to update this thread with the photo of the two prototype Gallop's from the RBW email today; built up one and the orange frameset. The orange one sells it for me a lot more. I still think it should be built around 650x47 instead of 700c, but maybe it's meant to replace the

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-13 Thread Joe Bernard
I hear ya, S, I'm trying to be a more positive fellow on this forum these days, too. For excellent raging negativity please see my Twitter account. I don't recommend it!  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-13 Thread S
Off-topic, again, but, just to clarify, I deleted my comments because I want to try and be positive online. My comments couldn't be a help to anyone, solved no problem, and illuminated no important issues. Also, in regard to small businesses, I believe in voting with your wallet. It's one

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-13 Thread Joe Bernard
Agreed, V-O came up and I offered an opinion. It didn't feel like an argument to me worthy of anyone else having to delete their POV. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-13 Thread Patrick Moore
FWIW, while I disagree, I didn't think your comments were out of place. Vive la difference! On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 5:29 PM S wrote: > Deleted my comments. They were off-topic and not constructive. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-13 Thread S
Deleted my comments. They were off-topic and not constructive. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-13 Thread S
I didn't say the parts weren't well made. The headsets, cranks, etc, look nice. But I feel that the design thinking at places such as Riv, Crust, Black Mountain, etc, is deeper and comes from a more authentic place. VO seem like trend followers to me. Which, whatever, who cares. Just not the

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-13 Thread A. Douglas M.
I agree, Joe! They’re awesome people, and they make really fun and functional parts and bikes that I can actually afford! Grant brings a lot of really cool designs back into the mainstream, and I’m grateful for that. VO proves there is room in the market for companies in the same innovative,

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-13 Thread Joe Bernard
The current owners of V-O are lovely people making really neat stuff including the Neutrino mini velo, a bike nobody asked for and no market study would have recommended. They did it anyway! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-13 Thread Patrick Moore
I disagree. VO is clearly more of a “business” business, and much of their stuff is made to a price point, but most of it is made with a purpose more than revenue, is well designed and manufactured, and developed by people who live bicycles. As for copying, it sure didn’t start with VO—the

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-13 Thread S
Some of their parts look OK, but I have always felt that VO lacks . . . heart and originality. That's the nicest way I can say it. On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 3:47:32 PM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote: > > VO has on other occasions mimicked what Rivendell has introduced. Usually > made more cheaply

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-10 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Nifty summary Edwin, missing the Road and Road Standard bikes of ‘94-98. Long time RBW followers know that if you see something you like, buy it. EVERYTHING gets replaced after a short while due to a number of constraints. Some long term projects like Atlantis keep the name but the new

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-10 Thread Bill Schairer
You mean like this? Sorry, I couldn’t resist, a craigslist item Bill S On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 11:43:20 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > That Polyvalent Low-Kicker is a great looking bike, in my opinion. I > think it illustrates how much better the Gallop may look with drop bars >

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-10 Thread Edwin W
Doug, looking at Marty's awesome google doc, it looks like: 1994-1998: 6 - All Rounder, Mountain Expedition, Long Low, Cyclo Cross, Heron 1999-2003: 5 - Atlantis, Rambo, Quickbeam, Romulus, Redwood 2004-2008: 6 - Saluki, Glorius, Wilbury Bleriot, AHH, Legolas 2009-2013: 7 - Bomba, Sam, Roadeo,

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-10 Thread Eric Daume
I read somewhere Riv was planning on selling these as completes. Hopefully framesets will be available as well. Like Mark, I have plenty of parts. On Wednesday, June 10, 2020, Mark Roland wrote: > Yes, it's more road oriented than the Hillibikes, with shorter front > center, more bb drop. I

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-10 Thread Doug Hansford
I've not been a Rivendell consumer and fan for as long as many of you, just about 4 or 5 years. Does Grant usually come out with new frame designs every year or two or has he been stepping it up lately with more offerings? Doug Hansford On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 9:00:19 AM UTC-4, Mark

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-10 Thread Mark Roland
Yes, it's more road oriented than the Hillibikes, with shorter front center, more bb drop. I think it's hard to judge the aesthetics of the joints with the snapshot we have--those shadows don't help. Still, I don't see a problem with it, and for road riding it gives plenty of extra clearance.

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-10 Thread David Lipsky
Garth, Thanks for doing the overlay on the Susie, it is useful! This schematic seems to show an 80mm BB drop for the Gallop. The Large Susie has a 70mm drop, so the Gallop is more “roadish” that way along with the shorter effective top tube. I’m getting a Medium Susie (also orange) and the

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-09 Thread R Shannon
To Bruce's point, the Charlie Gallop looks more refined and will have a ride to match. Love Charlie's graceful fork. Abe, thanks for the visual comparisons. Best, Rich in ATL On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 6:47 PM bruce.herbit...@gmail.com < bruce.herbit...@gmail.com> wrote: > VO has on other

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-09 Thread bruce.herbit...@gmail.com
VO has on other occasions mimicked what Rivendell has introduced. Usually made more cheaply and at a lower price point. On Tuesday, June 9, 2020, 01:09:36 PM CDT, Brian Campbell wrote: VO is offering something similar:

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-09 Thread Bill Lindsay
That Polyvalent Low-Kicker is a great looking bike, in my opinion. I think it illustrates how much better the Gallop may look with drop bars closer to level with the saddle. Some of you think a bike looks weird when a tube curves. Some of you don't like gaps that are bigger than you are used

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-09 Thread Brian Campbell
VO is offering something similar: https://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2020/05/mega-list-of-project-updates.html Drop tube/drop bar bikes are a " thing" now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-09 Thread EricP
Maybe it's just my eyes, but with the drop bars, it looks to be a bit of an homage to the Charlie Cunningham bicycles of the early mountain bike era. But different enough. If that ends up being close to the final design, I like it. Even though I'm not looking for anything else. (Except for

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-08 Thread Paul M
I believe the schematic shows an oval top tube. Starts at 25.4 then transitions to oval (28.6/22.2). Makes for a more comfortable place to sit while stopped. On Monday, 8 June 2020 18:16:47 UTC-7, Eric Daume wrote: > > I also saw the drawing had a 25.4mm non-oversized top tube. I hope Riv >

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-08 Thread Eric Daume
I also saw the drawing had a 25.4mm non-oversized top tube. I hope Riv sticks with this spec. On Monday, June 8, 2020, Chris L wrote: > The Gallop schematic that was posted on the Blahg a few months ago shows a > 700c x 47 (724 mm diameter) tire specification. I don't know if that type > of

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-08 Thread Chris L
The Gallop schematic that was posted on the Blahg a few months ago shows a 700c x 47 (724 mm diameter) tire specification. I don't know if that type of schematic typically shows the biggest tire the bike is designed for. I like this one. I like the swooping top tube on the Gus and I like it

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-08 Thread Eric Daume
I just sold two bikes, so my bike fund is pretty flush right now. This CHG is looking pretty good to me. Fat tires and rim brakes and longish chainstays and a high bar position are a pretty tough combo to find. I even kind of like the top tube. It swoops in the correct direction, unless some

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-08 Thread CB
Flip your curved seat stays and you might be looking at an s-curve when combined with the swoop tube. -- Carl On June 8, 2020 2:46:42 PM PDT, "A. Douglas M." wrote: >The more I look at it, the more I understand it’s the contrast between >the lone swoop and all the straight tubes that my eyes

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-08 Thread André P
I could see it looking really amazing with decals. I tend to like riv's built up with a certain amount of "greebles." Bags, lights, racks (in moderation) all really make a more built up riv pop over a stripped down build (to me). Maybe Grant will do large clem swoop stays on larger models? On

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-08 Thread A. Douglas M.
The more I look at it, the more I understand it’s the contrast between the lone swoop and all the straight tubes that my eyes dislike. I think if the bike had more swoops, it would blend better. I even made an awful drawing to illustrate. Best, Aaron -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-08 Thread CB
I guess I should have said "this kinda looks like..." Thinking is always clearer once you see your words in print. -- Carl On June 8, 2020 2:24:49 PM PDT, Pancake wrote: >Grant's earlier description was: it's like a Sam Hillborne but fits >wider >tires, has at least a swooping tube like the

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-08 Thread Pancake
Grant's earlier description was: it's like a Sam Hillborne but fits wider tires, has at least a swooping tube like the Suzie, and takes v-brakes. Sounds similar to this photo. I'd like to see it with the fattest tires, some Losco bars, and swoopy seat stays like the Clem. It'd be extra swoopy

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-08 Thread Ray Varella
Has anyone asked how fat of a tire it will fit? Fat is the new skinny Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-08 Thread Sal
Yes, it's more road bike than not. I have no idea why but I love the swoop, and the silver. I'll see if I can take more pictures for y'all to ponder, but there are significant changes still in the works from what I gather. So for all we know the swoop might go and I'll have to buy the

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-08 Thread Joe Bernard
I think it looks not great which means after some paint and graphics I'll love it and want one. Not my first roadeo people! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-08 Thread A. Douglas M.
I agree, Carl; it is a good reason to celebrate! I’m sure the Gallop rides blissfully. I like the swoop on the Clems, I like the swoop on the Atlantis, I like the diagotube on the Hunq. I’m just not finding this swoop to look good to my eyes. I guess that makes me a retrogrouch.  Best,

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-08 Thread tuolumne bikes
Maybe another way to say it: this is a modern Rivendell redesign of the All-Rounder with long stays and swoop tube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-08 Thread tuolumne bikes
Maybe I'm more sensitive to this than most due to my short torso, but this looks like a new bike designed for widish tires and drops. Isn't that cause for celebrating? Rivendell has plenty of long top tube bikes. I would probably still wind up with Northroads or Albastache on this because I'm a

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-08 Thread André P
Her IG is https://www.instagram.com/flynnsaw/ On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 12:24:18 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Who is Sal? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-08 Thread Mark Roland
Really hard to judge these things from a photo, but it seems like the front end is a bit shorter here than on the Hillibikes. No doubt you could run an upright bar, but perhaps designed with drops in mind foremost? Also maybe slightly shorter chainstays? A Roadibike, not a Hillibike? But roadie

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