[RBW] Re: Frame pump for 55cm Cheviot

2020-02-07 Thread Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
I have a Zefal HPX-3 for my 60cm and it would probably work for you too as 
it's a touch on the small side. But I would call Riv and ask which size you 
need before ordering anything.

On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 2:07:42 AM UTC-5, Adam wrote:
>
> What size works well? Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Frame Pump for a 59-60cm gap?

2018-01-23 Thread 'Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch 
On 68cm frames with a long top tube(Bridgestone 400), I have strapped a 
Zefal HPX to the seat stay. Works well and stays put.

On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 10:13:53 PM UTC-5, Birdman wrote:
>
> Snagged a XL Topeak Road Master Blaster on ebay for $20.  Someday a 
> Silca...
>
> Thanks y'all
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Frame Pump for a 59-60cm gap?

2018-01-22 Thread Birdman 
Snagged a XL Topeak Road Master Blaster on ebay for $20.  Someday a Silca...

Thanks y'all


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[RBW] Re: Frame Pump for a 59-60cm gap?

2018-01-21 Thread John G. 
The Silca is spendy, but I love mine. It travels from bike to bike. Fits my 
61cm Atlantis very well.

On Saturday, January 20, 2018 at 6:06:15 PM UTC-5, Birdman wrote:
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> Thanks, Stuart.  Spendy is right!
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[RBW] Re: Frame Pump for a 59-60cm gap?

2018-01-20 Thread Birdman 
Thanks, Stuart.  Spendy is right!

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[RBW] Re: FRAME PUMP SUGGESTIONS

2016-08-18 Thread Jon Dukeman,central Colorado 
Thanks Steve,
I didn't know about the lifetime warranty .My Mammoth pump still works.I 
want another pump so I don't have to keep moving the pump from bike to bike.
Jon

On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 9:46:34 AM UTC-6, stevef wrote:

> If your old Blackburn failed-take it to a shop and exchange it-they have a 
> lifetime warranty.  I'd have one mini and one floor pump replaced no 
> questions asked, both years old.  Just handed them to my shop guy and he 
> handed me a new one off the rack.  
>
> If you just need or want another pump, I'd recommend another 
> Blackburn--with the warranty, you'll never need to buy another.  Unless you 
> want to...B-)
>
> Steve
>
> On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 5:30:56 PM UTC-4, Jon Dukeman,central 
> Colorado wrote:
>>
>> *Its been a while since I bought a frame pump.*
>> *I'm looking for a short one that fills the tires fast and works every 
>> time and*
>> *that can be mounted at the bottle cage like my old Blackburn Mamouth.*
>> *With a torn rotator cuff the short pumps are easier for me to operate 
>> than say a long Zephal.*
>> *Thanks in advance.*
>> *Jon*
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FRAME PUMP SUGGESTIONS

2016-08-18 Thread stevef 
If your old Blackburn failed-take it to a shop and exchange it-they have a 
lifetime warranty.  I'd have one mini and one floor pump replaced no 
questions asked, both years old.  Just handed them to my shop guy and he 
handed me a new one off the rack.  

If you just need or want another pump, I'd recommend another 
Blackburn--with the warranty, you'll never need to buy another.  Unless you 
want to...B-)

Steve

On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 5:30:56 PM UTC-4, Jon Dukeman,central 
Colorado wrote:
>
> *Its been a while since I bought a frame pump.*
> *I'm looking for a short one that fills the tires fast and works every 
> time and*
> *that can be mounted at the bottle cage like my old Blackburn Mamouth.*
> *With a torn rotator cuff the short pumps are easier for me to operate 
> than say a long Zephal.*
> *Thanks in advance.*
> *Jon*
>

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[RBW] Re: FRAME PUMP SUGGESTIONS

2016-08-17 Thread Jon Dukeman,central Colorado 

Thanks to all for their helpful input on pumps.
A lot of good information to ponder.
Thanks,
Jon


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[RBW] Re: FRAME PUMP SUGGESTIONS

2016-08-16 Thread Deacon Patrick 
Lezyne, any of their high volume pumps. I especially like their one that's 
a mini-floor pump, but I put it in my bag as it rattles.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 3:30:56 PM UTC-6, Jon Dukeman,central 
Colorado wrote:
>
> *Its been a while since I bought a frame pump.*
> *I'm looking for a short one that fills the tires fast and works every 
> time and*
> *that can be mounted at the bottle cage like my old Blackburn Mamouth.*
> *With a torn rotator cuff the short pumps are easier for me to operate 
> than say a long Zephal.*
> *Thanks in advance.*
> *Jon*
>

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[RBW] Re: FRAME PUMP SUGGESTIONS

2016-08-16 Thread William deRosset 
Dear Jon,

If you're happy with the Mammoth, 

the Blackburn Mammoth pump is still available from a number of folks:

https://www.google.com/#q=blackburn+mammoth+pump

The Lezyne pumps work reasonably well if you get one with the pressure 
relief valve. I use a long one for my MTB, and it is pretty  The Lezyne 
hoses, for whatever reason, tend to grab removable-core valve cores, which 
is pretty depressing when working with a high-volume tire. It is best to 
tighten valve cores with a suitable wrench prior to use and carry a valve 
core wrench with you. 

The Topeak Race Rocket series is actually more functional than the Lezyne 
pumps in my experience--they won't grab valve cores, are simpler to deploy, 
and don't overheat in your hand. The "MT" version is the high-volume one, 
the HP (which I have) is lower-effort, but still gets a 42-584 tire to 
pressure in about twice the time of a Silca (i.e. relatively quickly for a 
little feller).

I prefer full-size frame pumps for their efficiency, despite the torn 
labrum on my right shoulder, but everybody's got to find their own 
accommodations to their physical needs.

Best Regards,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO

On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 3:30:56 PM UTC-6, Jon Dukeman,central 
Colorado wrote:
>
> *Its been a while since I bought a frame pump.*
> *I'm looking for a short one that fills the tires fast and works every 
> time and*
> *that can be mounted at the bottle cage like my old Blackburn Mamouth.*
> *With a torn rotator cuff the short pumps are easier for me to operate 
> than say a long Zephal.*
> *Thanks in advance.*
> *Jon*
>

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[RBW] Re: FRAME PUMP SUGGESTIONS

2016-08-16 Thread Ron Mc 
I'm happy with the Lezyne Road Drive for pressure (27mm Open Pave) and 
Medium Pressure Drive (38mm Barlow)

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-07 Thread drew 
the pump in bag is a fair point. i have a mini that i toss in a bag on my 
fastest bike. but i swap bags and move stuff around so much, that im never 
sure exactly where it is. the frame pump can just stay. 

issues i encountered when trying to mount on rear triangle, or back of seat 
tube were: 1-when mounted on the seat stay, from drop out corner to top of 
seat tube, the pump pushed my fender inward and it caused rubbing on the 
tire. but i have 50mm tires+fenders.  2-when mounted on the back of the 
seat tube, from bb area to the top, my xt front derailer pushed the pump 
out so that it didnt fit cleanly. the clamp bolt on that particular 
derailer hit it just in the right spot for it not to work. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-07 Thread Steve Palincsar 



On 04/07/2016 11:30 AM, Lungimsam wrote:

Im surprised that, with the massive baggery that goes on around here, you all 
are not just throwing Topeak Morphs into your bags. Plenty-o-room and no chance 
of frame pumps ruining paint jobs, bike lines, and going into spokes.

I think it is about*175-200 pumps*  to inflate my Cypress tar with my Morph 
pump( I forget which Morph model). And it sits perfectly in my Berthoud bag, so 
I know it will fit with plenty of room in those yawning, resounding, vast, 
cavernous, unlimited-litre,  beautiful, Rivbags.



easily twice as many pumps as required with a Zefal HPX


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[RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-07 Thread Lungimsam 
Im surprised that, with the massive baggery that goes on around here, you all 
are not just throwing Topeak Morphs into your bags. Plenty-o-room and no chance 
of frame pumps ruining paint jobs, bike lines, and going into spokes.

I think it is about 175-200 pumps to inflate my Cypress tar with my Morph pump( 
I forget which Morph model). And it sits perfectly in my Berthoud bag, so I 
know it will fit with plenty of room in those yawning, resounding, vast, 
cavernous, unlimited-litre,  beautiful, Rivbags.

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-07 Thread Lungimsam 
That right there is a purple carbon eater bike.

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-07 Thread 'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch 
This is a 60 cm LHT with a Zefal running along the seat tube.  Obviously 
you need the chainstay clearance.  Normally the pump is under the top tube, 
however those are tent poles wrapped in an old pair of socks lashed down 
for an S24O.


On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 10:15:23 AM UTC-4, Pierre wrote:

> I am thinking getting a full-size frame pump. I have a 59 cm Hilsen.
>
> I am wondering if any frame pump would fit nicely & tightly on the rear 
> triangle (non drive side, on seat stay)?
>
> (looking at pictures, it surely looks nice + I think my S&S couplers may 
> get in the way if placed on TT).
>
> Pierre
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-07 Thread Mark Wilkins 
I have a Topeak full-size that I use in the rear triangle of my 60cm
Ram and my 61cm Atlantis, just like the pics of Sean Hipkin's bikes.
I'm not sure of the size of the pump, but I recall using it this way
because it was just a hair too short to fit snugly under the top tube
of my 60cm Ram.

It fits snugly on both the Ram and Atlantis, and I don't use a strap.
If I was riding any rough(-er) terrain, I probably would.

Mark


On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Shoji Takahashi
 wrote:
> Sean Hipkin, formerly of Rivendell, had his frame pump in the rear triangle.
> There are a few pics of his Legolas:
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff9.htm
>
> It doesn't look like he rigged a pump peg, but did use a strap. I tried this
> on my AHH with a Zefal pump from Riv, and it seemed fine. I haven't ridden
> it a lot like that, though.
>
> Good luck!
> shoji
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 10:15:23 AM UTC-4, Pierre wrote:
>>
>> I am thinking getting a full-size frame pump. I have a 59 cm Hilsen.
>>
>> I am wondering if any frame pump would fit nicely & tightly on the rear
>> triangle (non drive side, on seat stay)?
>>
>> (looking at pictures, it surely looks nice + I think my S&S couplers may
>> get in the way if placed on TT).
>>
>> Pierre
>
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[RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-07 Thread islaysteve 
If you dont mind giving up your seat tube water bottle, you can mount a 
Topeake frame pump (and probably others) there easily.  I have the XS size 
for my 51 frame; Topeakes come in about 4 sizes.  I also used one of the 
water bottle mount screws to hold a small Velcro cable tie; much less 
conspicuous than the black Velcro strip provided with the pump. 


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[RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-06 Thread Nick Worthington 
If you are mounting to the seat-tube, you can still get NOS clamp-on pegs 
from E-vilbey.  Cyclo made the nicest ones - have one on my SO's Betty.

Nick W.

On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 7:15:23 AM UTC-7, Pierre wrote:

> I am thinking getting a full-size frame pump. I have a 59 cm Hilsen.
>
> I am wondering if any frame pump would fit nicely & tightly on the rear 
> triangle (non drive side, on seat stay)?
>
> (looking at pictures, it surely looks nice + I think my S&S couplers may 
> get in the way if placed on TT).
>
> Pierre
>

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-06 Thread Bill Lindsay 
Another way to eliminate knocking the pump loos when you carry the bike up 
stairs is to grab it by the downtube.  ;-)

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 10:29:48 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>
> It would eliminate knocking the pump loose when you carry the bike up 
> stairs.  One of the reasons I went for a mini-pump but of course they're 
> nowhere near as effective as a frame pump.
>
> dougP
>
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 7:15:23 AM UTC-7, Pierre wrote:
>>
>> I am thinking getting a full-size frame pump. I have a 59 cm Hilsen.
>>
>> I am wondering if any frame pump would fit nicely & tightly on the rear 
>> triangle (non drive side, on seat stay)?
>>
>> (looking at pictures, it surely looks nice + I think my S&S couplers may 
>> get in the way if placed on TT).
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-06 Thread Shoji Takahashi 
Sean Hipkin, formerly of Rivendell, had his frame pump in the rear 
triangle. There are a few pics of his Legolas:
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff9.htm

It doesn't look like he rigged a pump peg, but did use a strap. I tried 
this on my AHH with a Zefal pump from Riv, and it seemed fine. I haven't 
ridden it a lot like that, though.

Good luck!
shoji



On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 10:15:23 AM UTC-4, Pierre wrote:
>
> I am thinking getting a full-size frame pump. I have a 59 cm Hilsen.
>
> I am wondering if any frame pump would fit nicely & tightly on the rear 
> triangle (non drive side, on seat stay)?
>
> (looking at pictures, it surely looks nice + I think my S&S couplers may 
> get in the way if placed on TT).
>
> Pierre
>

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-06 Thread dougP 
It would eliminate knocking the pump loose when you carry the bike up 
stairs.  One of the reasons I went for a mini-pump but of course they're 
nowhere near as effective as a frame pump.

dougP

On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 7:15:23 AM UTC-7, Pierre wrote:
>
> I am thinking getting a full-size frame pump. I have a 59 cm Hilsen.
>
> I am wondering if any frame pump would fit nicely & tightly on the rear 
> triangle (non drive side, on seat stay)?
>
> (looking at pictures, it surely looks nice + I think my S&S couplers may 
> get in the way if placed on TT).
>
> Pierre
>

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[RBW] Re: FRAME..PUMP?

2015-01-15 Thread Ojiisan 
Wow! Thanks for the responses. Now I have a much better starting point... I 
read the BQ pump review and looking into that pump. I get many more flats 
than anyone I know. Me & "Goat Head" thorns have some sort of ridiculous 
affinity for each other. I have a similar problem with mosquitoes. I've 
been using a pump small enough to fit in my saddle bag. It works okay but 
it also takes more time and a heck of a lot more effort to refill a tire 
with that little pump than it takes to repair it. Something needs to 
change. Ojiisan





On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 11:27:51 AM UTC-8, Ojiisan wrote:
>
> What do you folks recommend for an under top tube mount frame pump & why? 
> Is there another emergency pump other than under top tube mount I should 
> consider? I hope everyone is having a great start to 2015! Ojii
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FRAME..PUMP?

2015-01-15 Thread Lee Legrand 
Eric, I think it was Lezyne pump you are referring to.

http://www.lezyne.com/products-handpumps.php


On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:36 PM, dougP  wrote:

> Brilliant!  I can use a couple of those.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 7:22:05 PM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>>
>> ... or this.
>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/2fishph.htm
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 1:29:52 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
>>>
>>> Zefal HPX.  Have used them well over 30 years now.  The one on my
>>> Atlantis is at least 20 years old.  I also have a Mt Zefal that I bought 25
>>> years ago.  It's a larger barrel for big volume tires & is on my MTB.  Note
>>> that under TT pump mounting works better with retention.  Jandd used to
>>> make a nice velcro strap with a rubber cushioning pad that fit between the
>>> pump & TT.  But any random piece of Velcro & a segment of worn-out tire
>>> would work.  Lots of the Riv photos show kerchiefs doing the same job.
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 11:27:51 AM UTC-8, Ojiisan wrote:

 What do you folks recommend for an under top tube mount frame pump &
 why? Is there another emergency pump other than under top tube mount I
 should consider? I hope everyone is having a great start to 2015! Ojii

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[RBW] Re: FRAME..PUMP?

2015-01-15 Thread George Cline 
I've used Silca and Zefal in the past; but has anybody else noticed a 
problem with rattling when the Zefal is mounted horizontally? Mine have 
seemed to be prone to that, (They are the longer length models FWIW). It 
bugged me enough to switch to vertical mounting.

Now, my favorite is the Two Peak Road Morph with gauge...

George

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> consider? I hope everyone is having a great start to 2015! Ojii
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[RBW] Re: FRAME..PUMP?

2015-01-14 Thread dougP 
Brilliant!  I can use a couple of those.

dougP

On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 7:22:05 PM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> ... or this.
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/2fishph.htm
>
> John
>
> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 1:29:52 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
>>
>> Zefal HPX.  Have used them well over 30 years now.  The one on my 
>> Atlantis is at least 20 years old.  I also have a Mt Zefal that I bought 25 
>> years ago.  It's a larger barrel for big volume tires & is on my MTB.  Note 
>> that under TT pump mounting works better with retention.  Jandd used to 
>> make a nice velcro strap with a rubber cushioning pad that fit between the 
>> pump & TT.  But any random piece of Velcro & a segment of worn-out tire 
>> would work.  Lots of the Riv photos show kerchiefs doing the same job.  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 11:27:51 AM UTC-8, Ojiisan wrote:
>>>
>>> What do you folks recommend for an under top tube mount frame pump & 
>>> why? Is there another emergency pump other than under top tube mount I 
>>> should consider? I hope everyone is having a great start to 2015! Ojii
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FRAME..PUMP?

2015-01-14 Thread Surlyprof 
... or this.
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/2fishph.htm

John

On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 1:29:52 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
>
> Zefal HPX.  Have used them well over 30 years now.  The one on my Atlantis 
> is at least 20 years old.  I also have a Mt Zefal that I bought 25 years 
> ago.  It's a larger barrel for big volume tires & is on my MTB.  Note that 
> under TT pump mounting works better with retention.  Jandd used to make a 
> nice velcro strap with a rubber cushioning pad that fit between the pump & 
> TT.  But any random piece of Velcro & a segment of worn-out tire would 
> work.  Lots of the Riv photos show kerchiefs doing the same job.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 11:27:51 AM UTC-8, Ojiisan wrote:
>>
>> What do you folks recommend for an under top tube mount frame pump & why? 
>> Is there another emergency pump other than under top tube mount I should 
>> consider? I hope everyone is having a great start to 2015! Ojii
>>
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[RBW] Re: FRAME..PUMP?

2015-01-14 Thread dougP 
Zefal HPX.  Have used them well over 30 years now.  The one on my Atlantis 
is at least 20 years old.  I also have a Mt Zefal that I bought 25 years 
ago.  It's a larger barrel for big volume tires & is on my MTB.  Note that 
under TT pump mounting works better with retention.  Jandd used to make a 
nice velcro strap with a rubber cushioning pad that fit between the pump & 
TT.  But any random piece of Velcro & a segment of worn-out tire would 
work.  Lots of the Riv photos show kerchiefs doing the same job.  

dougP

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> consider? I hope everyone is having a great start to 2015! Ojii
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Re: [RBW] Re: FRAME..PUMP?

2015-01-14 Thread Eric Norris 
Jan Heine reviewed a frame-mounted pump in BQ and issue or two ago. He found 
one that he really liked, but I don’t have that issue in front of me.

--Eric N
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> On Jan 14, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Surlyprof  wrote:
> 
> I currently use the Topeak because that was what the bike shop had when I 
> bought it 10+ years ago.  It tends to slip on the presta valves but works 
> well enough to not warrant a replacement cost... yet.  Prior to that I had a 
> Silca because you could get replacement parts (that became increasingly more 
> difficult) and a Zefal (which was stolen with the bicycle it was mounted on). 
>  If I was buying today, I'd buy the Zefal as long as it fit my frame.  I 
> always had good luck with my old one.  If Rivendell still believes in them, 
> then I would guess their quality is still solid.
> 
> John
> 
> On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 11:27:51 AM UTC-8, Ojiisan wrote:
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> there another emergency pump other than under top tube mount I should 
> consider? I hope everyone is having a great start to 2015! Ojii
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[RBW] Re: FRAME..PUMP?

2015-01-14 Thread Surlyprof 
I currently use the Topeak because that was what the bike shop had when I 
bought it 10+ years ago.  It tends to slip on the presta valves but works 
well enough to not warrant a replacement cost... yet.  Prior to that I had 
a Silca because you could get replacement parts (that became increasingly 
more difficult) and a Zefal (which was stolen with the bicycle it was 
mounted on).  If I was buying today, I'd buy the Zefal as long as it fit my 
frame.  I always had good luck with my old one.  If Rivendell still 
believes in them, then I would guess their quality is still solid.

John

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> consider? I hope everyone is having a great start to 2015! Ojii
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[RBW] Re: FRAME..PUMP?

2015-01-14 Thread 'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch 
They're also good for threatening wayward dogs.

On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 9:52:38 AM UTC-5, doc wrote:

> I've had a Zefal hPX for over 30 years.  You don't need a pump often, but 
> when you do, it's important that it work flawlessly.
> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 9:37:23 AM UTC-5, Andrew 
> Marchant-Shapiro wrote:
>>
>> Zefal hPX.  The only thing you need to know.
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 2:27:51 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:
>>>
>>> What do you folks recommend for an under top tube mount frame pump & 
>>> why? Is there another emergency pump other than under top tube mount I 
>>> should consider? I hope everyone is having a great start to 2015! Ojii
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FRAME..PUMP?

2015-01-14 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro 
Nice bike, Steve.  My VO Rando (production, not custom) *just* has room for 
the pump behind the seat tube.  It's a tight fit between tube, fender, 
chain stays and a campy umbrella clip.  But it fits and it works.

On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 10:38:59 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>  On 01/14/2015 09:37 AM, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote:
>  
> Zefal hPX.  The only thing you need to know.
>  
>
> Well, one more thing worth knowing about the (old, black, original) HPX is 
> with some sand paper and some steel wool and some aluminum polish, your 
> flat black (and eventually scratched and dented) HPX can look like this:
>
>
>  

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[RBW] Re: FRAME..PUMP?

2015-01-14 Thread Brewster Fong 

On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 11:27:51 AM UTC-8, Ojiisan wrote:
>
> What do you folks recommend for an under top tube mount frame pump & why? 
> Is there another emergency pump other than under top tube mount I should 
> consider? I hope everyone is having a great start to 2015! Ojii
>
 
I like full size frame pumps and mount mine along the left chainstay. I 
really like blackburn, but they discontinued it - errr!  I've tried the 
Topeak full frame pump and it works great, until it doesn't.  Water gets 
inside the handle and rusts out the spring. Not pretty. Never used a Zefal, 
but apparently, it is the one to get based on how others have responded. 
 
Good Luck!  

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[RBW] Re: FRAME..PUMP?

2015-01-14 Thread Deacon Patrick 
I bought this Zefel HPx in 1988. It's been to Europe, on countless domestic 
tours, a couple of car accidents, and now lives on my Hunqapillar. The only 
maintenance I've done on it is lubing it with coconut oil. Pumps great!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/16076932710/

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: FRAME..PUMP?

2015-01-14 Thread 'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch 
I've had a Zefal hPX for over 30 years.  You don't need a pump often, but 
when you do, it's important that it work flawlessly.
On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 9:37:23 AM UTC-5, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro 
wrote:
>
> Zefal hPX.  The only thing you need to know.
>
> On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 2:27:51 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:
>>
>> What do you folks recommend for an under top tube mount frame pump & why? 
>> Is there another emergency pump other than under top tube mount I should 
>> consider? I hope everyone is having a great start to 2015! Ojii
>>
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[RBW] Re: FRAME..PUMP?

2015-01-14 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro 
Zefal hPX.  The only thing you need to know.

On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 2:27:51 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:
>
> What do you folks recommend for an under top tube mount frame pump & why? 
> Is there another emergency pump other than under top tube mount I should 
> consider? I hope everyone is having a great start to 2015! Ojii
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Re: [RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

2013-11-07 Thread Steve Palincsar 

On 11/07/2013 08:39 PM, djbardwil wrote:
Wow - 5-10 minutes with a big plier sound like some serious effort - 
they must be strong.


Curious - did it come off clean and leave an unpainted surface spot or 
was it inserted into a hole in the frame?


It left a raggedy stump.  IIRC the bike in question was a very late 
model Raleigh DL-1.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

2013-11-07 Thread djbardwil 
Wow - 5-10 minutes with a big plier sound like some serious effort - they 
must be strong.

Curious - did it come off clean and leave an unpainted surface spot or was 
it inserted into a hole in the frame?


On Thursday, November 7, 2013 8:17:12 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>  On 11/07/2013 06:30 PM, djbardwil wrote:
>  
>I have a standalone "L" shaped pump peg (which is part of the frame) 
>>> on my Riv Custom on the underside of the top tube that I mounted a Zefal 
>>> frame pump to.  The pump has only come off when I inadvertently lifted the 
>>> bike, not realizing the pump was there; no rattles.  I have to compress the 
>>> pump by about 3/4" to mount it between the peg and the seat tube.  
>>>
>>
> However, when I knocked the pump off, it made me wonder how strong that 
> "L" shaped peg actually is and whether anyone has ever had one break?
>  
>
> I had an L shaped pump peg on a frame once and decided to break it off.  
> It took me something like 5-10 minutes with a big pair of pliers to break 
> it off.
>
>
>  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

2013-11-07 Thread Steve Palincsar 

On 11/07/2013 06:30 PM, djbardwil wrote:


I have a standalone "L" shaped pump peg (which is part of the
frame) on my Riv Custom on the underside of the top tube that
I mounted a Zefal frame pump to.  The pump has only come off
when I inadvertently lifted the bike, not realizing the pump
was there; no rattles.  I have to compress the pump by about
3/4" to mount it between the peg and the seat tube.

However, when I knocked the pump off, it made me wonder how strong 
that "L" shaped peg actually is and whether anyone has ever had one break?


I had an L shaped pump peg on a frame once and decided to break it off.  
It took me something like 5-10 minutes with a big pair of pliers to 
break it off.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

2013-11-07 Thread Eric Platt 
For frame pumps, I use a strap.  Had one fall off on a bike trail once.
 For me, Planet Bike models seem more likely to do this than a Zefal.

The other reason - it helps cut down on the brake cable bouncing off the
top tube.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:33 PM, djbardwil  wrote:

> I have a standalone "L" shaped pump peg (which is part of the frame) on my
> Riv Custom on the underside of the top tube that I mounted a Zefal frame
> pump to.  The pump has only come off when I inadvertently lifted the bike,
> not realizing the pump was there; no rattles.  I have to compress the pump
> by about 3/4" to mount it between the peg and the seat tube.
>
> However, when I knocked the pump off, it made me wonder how strong that
> "L" shaped peg actually is and whether anyone has ever had one break.
>
> Is this something to be concerned about or not really?
>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

2013-11-07 Thread djbardwil 
I have a standalone "L" shaped pump peg (which is part of the frame) on my 
Riv Custom on the underside of the top tube that I mounted a Zefal frame 
pump to.  The pump has only come off when I inadvertently lifted the bike, 
not realizing the pump was there; no rattles.  I have to compress the pump 
by about 3/4" to mount it between the peg and the seat tube.  
 
However, when I knocked the pump off, it made me wonder how strong that "L" 
shaped peg actually is and whether anyone has ever had one break.

Is this something to be concerned about or not really?

>
>>  

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[RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

2013-11-07 Thread djbardwil 

>
> I have a standalone "L" shaped pump peg (which is part of the frame) on my 
>> Riv Custom on the underside of the top tube that I mounted a Zefal frame 
>> pump to.  The pump has only come off when I inadvertently lifted the bike, 
>> not realizing the pump was there; no rattles.  I have to compress the pump 
>> by about 3/4" to mount it between the peg and the seat tube.  
>>
>  
However, when I knocked the pump off, it made me wonder how strong that "L" 
shaped peg actually is and whether anyone has ever had one break?

Is this something to ne concerned about?

>  
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

2013-11-07 Thread hsmitham 
An ounce of prevention...

~Hugh

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:53:28 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:
>
> Got my nice shiny new frame pump from Rivbike today. The super short mini 
> is good for the occasional pump up on the road but I have been doing some 
> mixed terrain where I had to take some air out and put it back in on the 
> same ride so it made more sense to go full size. My question is does the 
> thing really need to be secured with a strap to the TT? I have seen it both 
> ways and would like to avoid adding another strap on the bike that inst 
> necessary. Thanks for any personal experience people can offer. 
>  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

2013-11-07 Thread Patrick Moore 
I think the key to pump security on bumpy terrain is to have a mounting peg
and sufficient compression.

Or use a Lezyne mini. The larger one pumps a 61 actual mm Big Apple to 20+
rather quickly and easily, and a 55 (actual) F Fred to 30 with not much
more effort. I daresay even a Zefal might take time to get such fat tires
up to pressure. It will also get a 35 mm Kojak to 50 or so with a bit more
work.

Hell is: foolishly trying to get 100+ into a 35 mm Fatboy with a Blackburn
Airstick. (That one doesn't fall off; you fling it in rage as far from the
bike as you can. After stomping on it.)


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> More detail: I ride some pretty technical stuff off road and single track,
> and the built in mounting post on my Hunqa has always held it on solid.
>
> With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

2013-11-07 Thread cyclotourist 
I've knocked it off a couple times, but the big reason is to reduce rattles.

Cheers,
David

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On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Tim Gavin
wrote:

> My '88 Schwinn KOM-10 MTB has a vertical pump peg behind the seat cluster.
>  Unfortunately, I'm using the chainstay bridge to mount a fender, so I
> can't use that location right now.
>
> It's a nice feature, but kinda bewildering as the bike has the peg but no
> fender or rack eyelets.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:12 PM, doc  wrote:
>
>> You can also place it behind the seat tube; compressed between the upper
>> and lower chainstays.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

2013-11-07 Thread Tim Gavin 
My '88 Schwinn KOM-10 MTB has a vertical pump peg behind the seat cluster.
 Unfortunately, I'm using the chainstay bridge to mount a fender, so I
can't use that location right now.

It's a nice feature, but kinda bewildering as the bike has the peg but no
fender or rack eyelets.


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:12 PM, doc  wrote:

> You can also place it behind the seat tube; compressed between the upper
> and lower chainstays.
>

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[RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

2013-11-07 Thread doc 
You can also place it behind the seat tube; compressed between the upper 
and lower chainstays.

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 10:53:28 AM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:

> Got my nice shiny new frame pump from Rivbike today. The super short mini 
> is good for the occasional pump up on the road but I have been doing some 
> mixed terrain where I had to take some air out and put it back in on the 
> same ride so it made more sense to go full size. My question is does the 
> thing really need to be secured with a strap to the TT? I have seen it both 
> ways and would like to avoid adding another strap on the bike that inst 
> necessary. Thanks for any personal experience people can offer. 
>  

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[RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

2013-11-07 Thread Scott G. 
The strap isn't to keep the pump from falling off, it keeps it from 
rattling.
The rattling can be the sound of the raised edge of the pump handle 
hitting the bottom to the TT, which then rusts, then the TT fails.

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[RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

2013-11-07 Thread Deacon Patrick 
More detail: I ride some pretty technical stuff off road and single track, 
and the built in mounting post on my Hunqa has always held it on solid. 

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

2013-11-07 Thread dougP 
Peter:

Off road it's pretty easy to dislodge the pump.  If you don't want to add 
more clutter, how about strapping it when venturing off-road?  At least 
then if you do knock it loose it won't immediately create a problem.  

dougP

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:53:28 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:
>
> Got my nice shiny new frame pump from Rivbike today. The super short mini 
> is good for the occasional pump up on the road but I have been doing some 
> mixed terrain where I had to take some air out and put it back in on the 
> same ride so it made more sense to go full size. My question is does the 
> thing really need to be secured with a strap to the TT? I have seen it both 
> ways and would like to avoid adding another strap on the bike that inst 
> necessary. Thanks for any personal experience people can offer. 
>  

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[RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

2013-11-07 Thread Ron Mc 
throwing out an example - when I used my Zefal this way, on the seat tube, 
it fell off all the time and I ended up strapping it



when I moved it to the top tube with an umbrella clip (rubber pad under the 
umbrella clip) - it wouldn't come off in an earthquake or plane crash



but its all about the compression load on the spring, i.e., how long is the 
opening and how hard must you squeeze the pump to place it.  




On Thursday, November 7, 2013 10:09:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> My pump is 25 years old, I've never used a strap, and it's never fallen 
> off.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump for 2TT 56cm Hillborne?

2011-08-21 Thread Johnny Alien 
The closeness of those lugs will really do you in.  I think it's odd they 
put the pump peg thing on the headtube up by that first bar. I think it's 
quite possible you will need to put the frame pump under the second bar.

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump?

2010-12-21 Thread doc 
I have a 30 year old hPX that fits well under the top tube.  But when
carrying tent poles (wrapped in a pair of socks and lashed to the top
tube), I move the pump to between the chainstays, along the seat
tube.  Both locations work great.  As for the pump, I discovered a few
months ago that the parts are still available and usually in stock at
the LBS.

On Dec 19, 6:52 pm, David Klatte  wrote:
> OK, this is probably a really dumb question. You can all feel free to
> make fun of my ignorance - I won't mind.
>
> My new Hilsen has one of those spiky braze-ons for a frame pump. A
> very long time ago I had an English three speed with a frame pump, but
> it had two of those spiky braze-ons and the pump fit between them.
>
> So how does it work with just one? What do I need to know to shop for
> a frame pump that will fit?
>
> Any suggestions for a nice rivish pump?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump?

2010-12-20 Thread Bill M. 
I have old Zefal HPx's and new Road Morphs in service, and think both
work fine.  The Quicker mini pump had some good press, but it's a bit
of a pain to use IMO.  The Lezyne Pressure Drive is good for a mini,
but given the choice I'd rather use a full sized frame pump.  The
Master Blaster is a good pump, but heavy and dead ugly on the bike.
That may not matter to you, but I hate cluttering up a pretty bike.

Bill

On Dec 19, 3:52 pm, David Klatte  wrote:
> OK, this is probably a really dumb question. You can all feel free to
> make fun of my ignorance - I won't mind.
>
> My new Hilsen has one of those spiky braze-ons for a frame pump. A
> very long time ago I had an English three speed with a frame pump, but
> it had two of those spiky braze-ons and the pump fit between them.
>
> So how does it work with just one? What do I need to know to shop for
> a frame pump that will fit?
>
> Any suggestions for a nice rivish pump?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump?

2010-12-20 Thread David Klatte 
Ahh, thanks guys. I feel enlightened.

Ya know Eddie, you would think that with the thousands of hours (only
slight exaggeration) that I have spent on the riv site lately that I
would have known that was there. But I didn't.

On Dec 19, 7:42 pm, eflayer  wrote:
> one brand and model and how the lengths they come in:
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/topeak-pumps/28-024

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump?

2010-12-20 Thread MKahrl 


The best a mini pump can ever hope to be is "not too bad as long as
you don't compare it to a frame pump".   With the longer stroke it
takes less time to fill up a fat tire or a high pressure tire.  The
long stroke also seems to give your arms more leverage.   Mini pumps
came about mostly because there was no place to put full frame pumps
on double suspension mountain bikes.  They also  were much more handy
for bike messengers who frequently leave their bikes unattended.
Still a good reason to use a minipump.   If you cyclo-cross, carry
your bike up stairs frequently, or use a car carrier where the bike is
cradled by the top tube, you may want to mount the pump someplace
other than under the top tube.

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump?

2010-12-20 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean 
First: I never go above 70 psi (and rarely go above 60 psi). So my
thoughts on pumps may be useless to you.

But I've had success only with pumps from Lezyne. All of the others
I've tried have either *never* worked or were always finicky or worked
for a short while before I somehow wore them out (with <6 inflations).
Seriously. It was very frustrating. One of these was a floor pump. The
others (4 or 5) were all minis. I'm not even sure which brands they
were; but they were all brands I'd heard of. Topeak and Zefal for
sure. After so much hassle, I was about to try a frame pump (and
figure out how to prevent it from being stolen; I'd already lost one
pump that was on my frame to theft) when I decided to give the Lezyne
Pressure Drive Mini M a try. Saw it on VO's site, I think. It looked
purty. It worked perfectly the first time I used it and every time
since. Sure, I assume a frame pump or a floor pump can fill a tire
from empty way faster and way easier than my Lezyne. But I can put the
Lezyne in a Keven's bag or a TrunkSack small. And it will fill a tire
from completely empty to 70 psi in a reasonable amount of time with
reasonable effort. And, though I've used it dozens of times for empty-
to-full inflations when arranging new wheels (went through a lot of
wheels before I ponied up and got some real good ones) or
unanticipated new tires (Paselas treated me badly), I've now kind of
settled on a tire/wheel set-up that allows me to basically use it only
when I fix flats or seasonal tire change (low-down bike goes from
normal to studded tires) or when I replace worn tires in the normal
course of events. Not very often, in other words. Having to use it
will never be a reason not to ride.

I've since gotten and used both the Pressure Drive Mini S (smaller;
fits even more easily in Keven's Bag-sized bags) and the Micro Floor
Drive (which is all the floor pump I've ever going to need). They both
work extremely well, though admittedly the Pressure Drive Mini S makes
it somewhat harder/slower to bring a 40-622 tire from empty to 60psi.
If I know I need to do a flat-to-empty, I'll look for the Mini M or
the Floor Drive for a few minutes before doing it with the Mini S. But
only a few minutes. Even with the Mini S, it's not *that* big a deal.
And *always* having a pump to top off a tire when the temp drops 25
degrees during the day while my bike sits outside... that's a *very*
nice-to-have.

Oh, and they have rebuild kits. I've taken the Mini M apart a couple
of times (purrely curiousity) and gave it newly lubricated gaskets
just for grins. It was easy to disassemble/re-assemble. Good stuff,
IMO.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Dec 20, 9:33 am, "Scott G."  wrote:
> I have the Leyzne Micro Floor Drive, it works well, but it is still
> slower than a frame pump.
>
> Using the Demetri method I can quickly explode a tube with a Blackburn
> frame pump.
> I can fit the XL size  pumps on my bikes, so the Leyzne is at a
> greater disadvantage,
> 50cm frame rider might as well get the Leynze. I carry a Topeak
> Mountain Morph
> on tour, for daily top ups.

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump?

2010-12-20 Thread Scott G. 
I have the Leyzne Micro Floor Drive, it works well, but it is still
slower than a frame pump.

Using the Demetri method I can quickly explode a tube with a Blackburn
frame pump.
I can fit the XL size  pumps on my bikes, so the Leyzne is at a
greater disadvantage,
50cm frame rider might as well get the Leynze. I carry a Topeak
Mountain Morph
on tour, for daily top ups.

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump?

2010-12-20 Thread MichaelH 
"A pump strap holds it in nicely."

That's my experience too, without one the pump will periodically get
bounced off the bike.   Personally, I have found the very good minis
now on the market to be an easier solution.

michael

On Dec 19, 8:00 pm, Bruce  wrote:
>  A pump strap holds
> it in nicely.
>
> 
> From: eflayer 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 6:42:00 PM
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Frame pump?
>
> one brand and model and how the lengths they come in:
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/topeak-pumps/28-024
>
> On Dec 19, 4:28 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Depends on the length of the top-tube also.  You may need a
> > (tech-term-warning!!!) doo-hickey that comes with the pump, that will attach
> > to the top-tube so the pump compresses in.  Sayin'?

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump?

2010-12-19 Thread Bob 
I have one of the old Zefals on one of my bikes that has one of the
little "spike" braze-ons for frame pumps.  It fits properly, but I am
sure I could rattle the thing off the bike without the little velcro
keeper I use with it.  Just a thought that a buck's worth of velcro
might keep you from scarring your pump on some gravel.

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump?

2010-12-19 Thread benzzoy 
I really like my Lezyne Road Drive pumps.  These are mini-pumps with
the old-school hose connection.  I like them because they can pump up
to 100 psi easily but they're also quick enough for my 700x30 tires.
The design put very little stress on the tube stem and enables
inflating the tire after the wheel is installed; this may be important
for those who have fenders and horizontal dropouts.  Finally, they
come with a mount that can be installed with a bottle cage but they're
small enough to go into smallish bags (not the smallest, like the
small Acorn though).


On Dec 19, 7:24 pm, doug peterson  wrote:
> +1 for the Zefal.  They really work well and develop high pressure.
> OTH, since getting my Atlantis with 35 mm tires, over the years I've
> had less & less use for an on-the-road pump.  I've gone to a Silca
> mini-pump that fits in my Acorn Boxy Rando bag.  It takes forever to
> inflate a 700 x 35 but I get few flats.  It's seen more use on other
> rider's skinny tires and seems quick enough for filling those.  Seems
> like a lot of Riv riders have enough luggage capacity to easily handle
> a mini-pump.  Minis are a real "emergency only" solution, though, and
> I tried some that were junk before finding the Silca.
>
> dougP
>
> On Dec 19, 4:25 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 15:52 -0800, David Klatte wrote:
> > > OK, this is probably a really dumb question. You can all feel free to
> > > make fun of my ignorance - I won't mind.
>
> > > My new Hilsen has one of those spiky braze-ons for a frame pump. A
> > > very long time ago I had an English three speed with a frame pump, but
> > > it had two of those spiky braze-ons and the pump fit between them.
>
> > > So how does it work with just one? What do I need to know to shop for
> > > a frame pump that will fit?
>
> > One end goes on the pump peg; the other end fits on the seat tube and
> > maybe has a protrusion that contacts both seat and top tubes.  The pump
> > is spring loaded, and pushes back into the seat tube.  You need to know
> > the distance between the head tube and the seat tube.
>
> > > Any suggestions for a nice rivish pump?
>
> > I like the Zefal HPX a lot.  I understand Silca's going to reissue the
> > plastic Impero.  Between those two, you can't get much more traditional
> > than that.

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump?

2010-12-19 Thread doug peterson 
+1 for the Zefal.  They really work well and develop high pressure.
OTH, since getting my Atlantis with 35 mm tires, over the years I've
had less & less use for an on-the-road pump.  I've gone to a Silca
mini-pump that fits in my Acorn Boxy Rando bag.  It takes forever to
inflate a 700 x 35 but I get few flats.  It's seen more use on other
rider's skinny tires and seems quick enough for filling those.  Seems
like a lot of Riv riders have enough luggage capacity to easily handle
a mini-pump.  Minis are a real "emergency only" solution, though, and
I tried some that were junk before finding the Silca.

dougP

On Dec 19, 4:25 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 15:52 -0800, David Klatte wrote:
> > OK, this is probably a really dumb question. You can all feel free to
> > make fun of my ignorance - I won't mind.
>
> > My new Hilsen has one of those spiky braze-ons for a frame pump. A
> > very long time ago I had an English three speed with a frame pump, but
> > it had two of those spiky braze-ons and the pump fit between them.
>
> > So how does it work with just one? What do I need to know to shop for
> > a frame pump that will fit?
>
> One end goes on the pump peg; the other end fits on the seat tube and
> maybe has a protrusion that contacts both seat and top tubes.  The pump
> is spring loaded, and pushes back into the seat tube.  You need to know
> the distance between the head tube and the seat tube.
>
>
>
> > Any suggestions for a nice rivish pump?
>
> I like the Zefal HPX a lot.  I understand Silca's going to reissue the
> plastic Impero.  Between those two, you can't get much more traditional
> than that.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Frame pump?

2010-12-19 Thread Bruce 
I have this one on the Ram, between a chainstay and the seat cluster. The pump 
also has a high pressure setting for you 23 mm tire people. A pump strap holds 
it in nicely.





From: eflayer 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 6:42:00 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Frame pump?

one brand and model and how the lengths they come in:

http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/topeak-pumps/28-024

On Dec 19, 4:28 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
> Depends on the length of the top-tube also.  You may need a
> (tech-term-warning!!!) doo-hickey that comes with the pump, that will attach
> to the top-tube so the pump compresses in.  Sayin'?
>
>



  

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump?

2010-12-19 Thread eflayer 
one brand and model and how the lengths they come in:

http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/topeak-pumps/28-024

On Dec 19, 4:28 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
> Depends on the length of the top-tube also.  You may need a
> (tech-term-warning!!!) doo-hickey that comes with the pump, that will attach
> to the top-tube so the pump compresses in.  Sayin'?
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> > On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 15:52 -0800, David Klatte wrote:
> > > OK, this is probably a really dumb question. You can all feel free to
> > > make fun of my ignorance - I won't mind.
>
> > > My new Hilsen has one of those spiky braze-ons for a frame pump. A
> > > very long time ago I had an English three speed with a frame pump, but
> > > it had two of those spiky braze-ons and the pump fit between them.
>
> > > So how does it work with just one? What do I need to know to shop for
> > > a frame pump that will fit?
>
> > One end goes on the pump peg; the other end fits on the seat tube and
> > maybe has a protrusion that contacts both seat and top tubes.  The pump
> > is spring loaded, and pushes back into the seat tube.  You need to know
> > the distance between the head tube and the seat tube.
>
> > > Any suggestions for a nice rivish pump?
>
> > I like the Zefal HPX a lot.  I understand Silca's going to reissue the
> > plastic Impero.  Between those two, you can't get much more traditional
> > than that.
>
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