Re: [RBW] Re: FYI: Silver 1" threaded Cane Creek 110 headset available again through Wilde Bikes

2024-08-23 Thread Bill Lindsay
On August 22, 2024 I asserted that IF I had a Time Machine and could go 
back to when HD6500 headsets were $50, I would go back and buy 10.  

Turns out I found that heinous eBay overpricer pb*bikes was offering Deore 
XT headsets of the same era at $60*.  If you buy 4 or more they were only 
$45.  Those headsets are functionally identical to the HD6500, so, I put my 
money where my mouth was and bought four of them.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

*the original asking price was $200, which is par for the course in 
pb*bikes land.  
On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 12:41:51 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Igor asked me a direct and objective question:
>
> " Bill, if you had a Time Machine which specific Shimano Ultegra model 
> would you get a lot more of?"
>
> I will answer it, but on the expectation that the next time I ask Igor a 
> direct and objective question, that he answers it.  It is my impression 
> that when I have asked Igor direct and objective questions in the past, he 
> has ignored them.  Now I will have some equity.  
>
> If I had a time machine, and could buy HP6500 (or HP7410) headsets new in 
> box for normal retail of $49 or less, I'd buy 10 of them and bring them 
> back in my time machine.  People are trying to sell them now on ebay for 
> $200.  Rivendell frames from Waterford or Toyo used to come with that 
> HP6500 headset.  My Romulus has the 105 level headset, which is fine, and 
> might have the same bearings.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 11:46:31 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:
>
>> Bill, if you had a Time Machine which specific Shimano Ultegra model 
>> would you get a lot more of?
>>
>> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 10:53:07 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> The FSA unit Rivendell uses is still an excellent value:  Headset - FSA 
>>> Silver 1 inch, threaded – Rivendell Bicycle Works (rivbike.com) 
>>> 
>>> If I had a time machine I would go back and get a lot more Shimano 
>>> Ultegra headsets when they were $50 retail.  Lots of vintage builds require 
>>> a shorter stack height than the Cane Creek or FSA.
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 7:30:32 AM UTC-7 Danny wrote:
>>>
 Their site has been acting strange since they listed those. Silver is 
 showing in stock again for me, but has been in and out of stock for the 
 past 24 hrs I’ve been checking. (I’ve been tempted to buy one, but 
 fighting 
 the urge to hoard a part I have no immediate use for.)

 Danny
 Madison, WI

 On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 9:26 AM Johnny Alien  
 wrote:

> Not in silver
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 10:11:59 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Igor, these seem to still be available.
>> Max
>>
>> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 6:52:07 AM UTC-4 Igor wrote:
>>
>>> I hesitated on this, and should not have. A great 2nut replacement 
>>> that I do not need at this time, but should have hoarded..sold out !
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 4:55:27 PM UTC-4 Al in SF wrote:
>>>
 Jeff Frane (All-City founder, @bikejerks, now Wilde) buddied up 
 with Cane Creek to bring back a limited run of the EC30 threaded 110 
 headset.

   - https://www.instagram.com/bikejerks/p/C-742K8sg3x/

   - 
 https://www.wildebikes.com/collections/frontpage/products/cane-creek-110-zn-1-threaded-headset

 Figured with all the 1" threaded headset users here, someone would 
 be interested in a higher-end option. The $120 asking price isn't 
 inflated 
 because I believe the original Cane Creek 110 cost that much; whereas 
 a CK 
 Gripnut (let alone the discontinued 2Nut) is now asking for $175.

 Al in SF

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Re: [RBW] Re: FYI: Silver 1" threaded Cane Creek 110 headset available again through Wilde Bikes

2024-08-22 Thread NYCbikeguy
Bill, I think that's a great Q&A policy! 

On another note, I like both ultegra and dura ace headsets, but I found 
them to have very flimsy-feeling crown races. I have not had any issues 
with them, but I simply feel like there's a huge disparity between 
shimano's crown races of that era and like let's say, crhis kings'. But 
damn, you can't beat the simple beauty of the unique bluish silverish sheen 
and reflective depth that the dura ace and ultegras give off. 

Best,
IY
NYC/CT

On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 3:41:51 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Igor asked me a direct and objective question:
>
> " Bill, if you had a Time Machine which specific Shimano Ultegra model 
> would you get a lot more of?"
>
> I will answer it, but on the expectation that the next time I ask Igor a 
> direct and objective question, that he answers it.  It is my impression 
> that when I have asked Igor direct and objective questions in the past, he 
> has ignored them.  Now I will have some equity.  
>
> If I had a time machine, and could buy HP6500 (or HP7410) headsets new in 
> box for normal retail of $49 or less, I'd buy 10 of them and bring them 
> back in my time machine.  People are trying to sell them now on ebay for 
> $200.  Rivendell frames from Waterford or Toyo used to come with that 
> HP6500 headset.  My Romulus has the 105 level headset, which is fine, and 
> might have the same bearings.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 11:46:31 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:
>
>> Bill, if you had a Time Machine which specific Shimano Ultegra model 
>> would you get a lot more of?
>>
>> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 10:53:07 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> The FSA unit Rivendell uses is still an excellent value:  Headset - FSA 
>>> Silver 1 inch, threaded – Rivendell Bicycle Works (rivbike.com) 
>>> 
>>> If I had a time machine I would go back and get a lot more Shimano 
>>> Ultegra headsets when they were $50 retail.  Lots of vintage builds require 
>>> a shorter stack height than the Cane Creek or FSA.
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 7:30:32 AM UTC-7 Danny wrote:
>>>
 Their site has been acting strange since they listed those. Silver is 
 showing in stock again for me, but has been in and out of stock for the 
 past 24 hrs I’ve been checking. (I’ve been tempted to buy one, but 
 fighting 
 the urge to hoard a part I have no immediate use for.)

 Danny
 Madison, WI

 On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 9:26 AM Johnny Alien  
 wrote:

> Not in silver
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 10:11:59 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Igor, these seem to still be available.
>> Max
>>
>> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 6:52:07 AM UTC-4 Igor wrote:
>>
>>> I hesitated on this, and should not have. A great 2nut replacement 
>>> that I do not need at this time, but should have hoarded..sold out !
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 4:55:27 PM UTC-4 Al in SF wrote:
>>>
 Jeff Frane (All-City founder, @bikejerks, now Wilde) buddied up 
 with Cane Creek to bring back a limited run of the EC30 threaded 110 
 headset.

   - https://www.instagram.com/bikejerks/p/C-742K8sg3x/

   - 
 https://www.wildebikes.com/collections/frontpage/products/cane-creek-110-zn-1-threaded-headset

 Figured with all the 1" threaded headset users here, someone would 
 be interested in a higher-end option. The $120 asking price isn't 
 inflated 
 because I believe the original Cane Creek 110 cost that much; whereas 
 a CK 
 Gripnut (let alone the discontinued 2Nut) is now asking for $175.

 Al in SF

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Re: [RBW] Re: FYI: Silver 1" threaded Cane Creek 110 headset available again through Wilde Bikes

2024-08-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
Igor asked me a direct and objective question:

" Bill, if you had a Time Machine which specific Shimano Ultegra model 
would you get a lot more of?"

I will answer it, but on the expectation that the next time I ask Igor a 
direct and objective question, that he answers it.  It is my impression 
that when I have asked Igor direct and objective questions in the past, he 
has ignored them.  Now I will have some equity.  

If I had a time machine, and could buy HP6500 (or HP7410) headsets new in 
box for normal retail of $49 or less, I'd buy 10 of them and bring them 
back in my time machine.  People are trying to sell them now on ebay for 
$200.  Rivendell frames from Waterford or Toyo used to come with that 
HP6500 headset.  My Romulus has the 105 level headset, which is fine, and 
might have the same bearings.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA


On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 11:46:31 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:

> Bill, if you had a Time Machine which specific Shimano Ultegra model would 
> you get a lot more of?
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 10:53:07 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> The FSA unit Rivendell uses is still an excellent value:  Headset - FSA 
>> Silver 1 inch, threaded – Rivendell Bicycle Works (rivbike.com) 
>> 
>> If I had a time machine I would go back and get a lot more Shimano 
>> Ultegra headsets when they were $50 retail.  Lots of vintage builds require 
>> a shorter stack height than the Cane Creek or FSA.
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 7:30:32 AM UTC-7 Danny wrote:
>>
>>> Their site has been acting strange since they listed those. Silver is 
>>> showing in stock again for me, but has been in and out of stock for the 
>>> past 24 hrs I’ve been checking. (I’ve been tempted to buy one, but fighting 
>>> the urge to hoard a part I have no immediate use for.)
>>>
>>> Danny
>>> Madison, WI
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 9:26 AM Johnny Alien  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Not in silver

 On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 10:11:59 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:

> Igor, these seem to still be available.
> Max
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 6:52:07 AM UTC-4 Igor wrote:
>
>> I hesitated on this, and should not have. A great 2nut replacement 
>> that I do not need at this time, but should have hoarded..sold out !
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 4:55:27 PM UTC-4 Al in SF wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff Frane (All-City founder, @bikejerks, now Wilde) buddied up with 
>>> Cane Creek to bring back a limited run of the EC30 threaded 110 headset.
>>>
>>>   - https://www.instagram.com/bikejerks/p/C-742K8sg3x/
>>>
>>>   - 
>>> https://www.wildebikes.com/collections/frontpage/products/cane-creek-110-zn-1-threaded-headset
>>>
>>> Figured with all the 1" threaded headset users here, someone would 
>>> be interested in a higher-end option. The $120 asking price isn't 
>>> inflated 
>>> because I believe the original Cane Creek 110 cost that much; whereas a 
>>> CK 
>>> Gripnut (let alone the discontinued 2Nut) is now asking for $175.
>>>
>>> Al in SF
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FYI: Silver 1" threaded Cane Creek 110 headset available again through Wilde Bikes

2024-08-22 Thread Igor
Bill, if you had a Time Machine which specific Shimano Ultegra model would 
you get a lot more of?

On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 10:53:07 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The FSA unit Rivendell uses is still an excellent value:  Headset - FSA 
> Silver 1 inch, threaded – Rivendell Bicycle Works (rivbike.com) 
> 
> If I had a time machine I would go back and get a lot more Shimano Ultegra 
> headsets when they were $50 retail.  Lots of vintage builds require a 
> shorter stack height than the Cane Creek or FSA.
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 7:30:32 AM UTC-7 Danny wrote:
>
>> Their site has been acting strange since they listed those. Silver is 
>> showing in stock again for me, but has been in and out of stock for the 
>> past 24 hrs I’ve been checking. (I’ve been tempted to buy one, but fighting 
>> the urge to hoard a part I have no immediate use for.)
>>
>> Danny
>> Madison, WI
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 9:26 AM Johnny Alien  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Not in silver
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 10:11:59 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>>>
 Igor, these seem to still be available.
 Max

 On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 6:52:07 AM UTC-4 Igor wrote:

> I hesitated on this, and should not have. A great 2nut replacement 
> that I do not need at this time, but should have hoarded..sold out !
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 4:55:27 PM UTC-4 Al in SF wrote:
>
>> Jeff Frane (All-City founder, @bikejerks, now Wilde) buddied up with 
>> Cane Creek to bring back a limited run of the EC30 threaded 110 headset.
>>
>>   - https://www.instagram.com/bikejerks/p/C-742K8sg3x/
>>
>>   - 
>> https://www.wildebikes.com/collections/frontpage/products/cane-creek-110-zn-1-threaded-headset
>>
>> Figured with all the 1" threaded headset users here, someone would be 
>> interested in a higher-end option. The $120 asking price isn't inflated 
>> because I believe the original Cane Creek 110 cost that much; whereas a 
>> CK 
>> Gripnut (let alone the discontinued 2Nut) is now asking for $175.
>>
>> Al in SF
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FYI: Silver 1" threaded Cane Creek 110 headset available again through Wilde Bikes

2024-08-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
The FSA unit Rivendell uses is still an excellent value:  Headset - FSA 
Silver 1 inch, threaded – Rivendell Bicycle Works (rivbike.com) 

If I had a time machine I would go back and get a lot more Shimano Ultegra 
headsets when they were $50 retail.  Lots of vintage builds require a 
shorter stack height than the Cane Creek or FSA.

BL in EC

On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 7:30:32 AM UTC-7 Danny wrote:

> Their site has been acting strange since they listed those. Silver is 
> showing in stock again for me, but has been in and out of stock for the 
> past 24 hrs I’ve been checking. (I’ve been tempted to buy one, but fighting 
> the urge to hoard a part I have no immediate use for.)
>
> Danny
> Madison, WI
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 9:26 AM Johnny Alien  wrote:
>
>> Not in silver
>>
>> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 10:11:59 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>>
>>> Igor, these seem to still be available.
>>> Max
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 6:52:07 AM UTC-4 Igor wrote:
>>>
 I hesitated on this, and should not have. A great 2nut replacement that 
 I do not need at this time, but should have hoarded..sold out !

 On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 4:55:27 PM UTC-4 Al in SF wrote:

> Jeff Frane (All-City founder, @bikejerks, now Wilde) buddied up with 
> Cane Creek to bring back a limited run of the EC30 threaded 110 headset.
>
>   - https://www.instagram.com/bikejerks/p/C-742K8sg3x/
>
>   - 
> https://www.wildebikes.com/collections/frontpage/products/cane-creek-110-zn-1-threaded-headset
>
> Figured with all the 1" threaded headset users here, someone would be 
> interested in a higher-end option. The $120 asking price isn't inflated 
> because I believe the original Cane Creek 110 cost that much; whereas a 
> CK 
> Gripnut (let alone the discontinued 2Nut) is now asking for $175.
>
> Al in SF
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FYI: Silver 1" threaded Cane Creek 110 headset available again through Wilde Bikes

2024-08-22 Thread Danny
Their site has been acting strange since they listed those. Silver is
showing in stock again for me, but has been in and out of stock for the
past 24 hrs I’ve been checking. (I’ve been tempted to buy one, but fighting
the urge to hoard a part I have no immediate use for.)

Danny
Madison, WI

On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 9:26 AM Johnny Alien 
wrote:

> Not in silver
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 10:11:59 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Igor, these seem to still be available.
>> Max
>>
>> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 6:52:07 AM UTC-4 Igor wrote:
>>
>>> I hesitated on this, and should not have. A great 2nut replacement that
>>> I do not need at this time, but should have hoarded..sold out !
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 4:55:27 PM UTC-4 Al in SF wrote:
>>>
 Jeff Frane (All-City founder, @bikejerks, now Wilde) buddied up with
 Cane Creek to bring back a limited run of the EC30 threaded 110 headset.

   - https://www.instagram.com/bikejerks/p/C-742K8sg3x/

   -
 https://www.wildebikes.com/collections/frontpage/products/cane-creek-110-zn-1-threaded-headset

 Figured with all the 1" threaded headset users here, someone would be
 interested in a higher-end option. The $120 asking price isn't inflated
 because I believe the original Cane Creek 110 cost that much; whereas a CK
 Gripnut (let alone the discontinued 2Nut) is now asking for $175.

 Al in SF

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[RBW] Re: FYI: Silver 1" threaded Cane Creek 110 headset available again through Wilde Bikes

2024-08-22 Thread Johnny Alien
Not in silver

On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 10:11:59 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:

> Igor, these seem to still be available.
> Max
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 6:52:07 AM UTC-4 Igor wrote:
>
>> I hesitated on this, and should not have. A great 2nut replacement that I 
>> do not need at this time, but should have hoarded..sold out !
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 4:55:27 PM UTC-4 Al in SF wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff Frane (All-City founder, @bikejerks, now Wilde) buddied up with 
>>> Cane Creek to bring back a limited run of the EC30 threaded 110 headset.
>>>
>>>   - https://www.instagram.com/bikejerks/p/C-742K8sg3x/
>>>
>>>   - 
>>> https://www.wildebikes.com/collections/frontpage/products/cane-creek-110-zn-1-threaded-headset
>>>
>>> Figured with all the 1" threaded headset users here, someone would be 
>>> interested in a higher-end option. The $120 asking price isn't inflated 
>>> because I believe the original Cane Creek 110 cost that much; whereas a CK 
>>> Gripnut (let alone the discontinued 2Nut) is now asking for $175.
>>>
>>> Al in SF
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FYI: Silver 1" threaded Cane Creek 110 headset available again through Wilde Bikes

2024-08-22 Thread maxcr
Igor, these seem to still be available.
Max

On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 6:52:07 AM UTC-4 Igor wrote:

> I hesitated on this, and should not have. A great 2nut replacement that I 
> do not need at this time, but should have hoarded..sold out !
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 4:55:27 PM UTC-4 Al in SF wrote:
>
>> Jeff Frane (All-City founder, @bikejerks, now Wilde) buddied up with Cane 
>> Creek to bring back a limited run of the EC30 threaded 110 headset.
>>
>>   - https://www.instagram.com/bikejerks/p/C-742K8sg3x/
>>
>>   - 
>> https://www.wildebikes.com/collections/frontpage/products/cane-creek-110-zn-1-threaded-headset
>>
>> Figured with all the 1" threaded headset users here, someone would be 
>> interested in a higher-end option. The $120 asking price isn't inflated 
>> because I believe the original Cane Creek 110 cost that much; whereas a CK 
>> Gripnut (let alone the discontinued 2Nut) is now asking for $175.
>>
>> Al in SF
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FYI: Silver 1" threaded Cane Creek 110 headset available again through Wilde Bikes

2024-08-22 Thread Igor
I hesitated on this, and should not have. A great 2nut replacement that I 
do not need at this time, but should have hoarded..sold out !

On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 4:55:27 PM UTC-4 Al in SF wrote:

> Jeff Frane (All-City founder, @bikejerks, now Wilde) buddied up with Cane 
> Creek to bring back a limited run of the EC30 threaded 110 headset.
>
>   - https://www.instagram.com/bikejerks/p/C-742K8sg3x/
>
>   - 
> https://www.wildebikes.com/collections/frontpage/products/cane-creek-110-zn-1-threaded-headset
>
> Figured with all the 1" threaded headset users here, someone would be 
> interested in a higher-end option. The $120 asking price isn't inflated 
> because I believe the original Cane Creek 110 cost that much; whereas a CK 
> Gripnut (let alone the discontinued 2Nut) is now asking for $175.
>
> Al in SF
>

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