Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-09 Thread Dan McNamara 
The rivet comes out pretty easily once you know the trick. 

The Riv instructions are good. 

Dan

> On Nov 8, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Elisabeth Sherwood 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh, boy! Thanks, Dan -- exactly what I needed.
> 
> Did you have any problem removing the rivet?  I tried to figure out how to 
> remove that thing for, well, way too long when I first installed the fender 
> (and finally gave up, figuring I was likely to cause more damage to the 
> fender than could be repaired), and couldn't figure it out. I see Riv tells 
> you how to do it, but I'm a little skeptical!
> 
> -- Liz
> 
> 
>> On Friday, November 8, 2013 12:17:25 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote:
>> When I was building my wife's Betty Foy I had the same problem. Fortunately 
>> these items exist:
>> 
>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/fe92.htm
>> 
>> It was a very tidy solution. And they work well.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> -Marin
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Why not take off the fender flap?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>> Behalf Of Elisabeth Sherwood
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:36 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I had Sheldon's fender nuts to install Longboards on my 650B wheels (and 
>>> was able to get the right size bolts from the hardware store [how in the 
>>> world is it possible that they don't COME with bolts???]), but after 
>>> mounting I realized it wasn't going to work -- for the front, it moved the 
>>> fender an inch closer to the ground. Even attaching the fender to the front 
>>> of the fork crown and having 38mm tires, I still worry about the bottom of 
>>> the fender flap hitting something on the ground!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> -- Liz S.
>>> 
>>> Washington, DC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 3:13:37 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bill-
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I have some sheldon's fender nuts, but I didn't use them because I didn't 
>>> have any bolts that fit them (fenders had one size smaller in hardware).  I 
>>> understand that they make de-fendering easier (no need to remove brake 
>>> caliper, etc), but I don't see how they'll improve fender line.  They move 
>>> the front fender rearward an inch or two; how does that help?  I appreciate 
>>> any advice; this was my second ever fender install.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Nice thing about using a pickup bed as my main bike transport: no need to 
>>> remove any wheels, fenders, etc.  Just lay it on the side and close the 
>>> topper.  So I'll probably leave these fenders on for a while.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Many will tell you that a bike that looks that good with fenders should 
>>> never be run without fenders.  That's a stunner.  As you think about your 
>>> fenderline tweaks, consider running a pair of Sheldon nuts.  For bikes of 
>>> that type, I think it might be the smartest route
>>> 
>>> That said, I still do it (occasional fenderizing and defenderizing):  The 
>>> trails out my backdoor (Wildcat Canyon) can get muddy, and so for winter 
>>> mudding the fenders have to be able to come off.  That applies to two 
>>> bikes.  My roadiest bike sometimes has the fenders off when I'm feeling a 
>>> weight-weenie attack, or when I want to run THE FATTEST possible tire.  
>>> Finally, I had the chance to throw my Hilsen into my sister's trunk for 
>>> free transport to Southern California, so the fenders had to come off.  Now 
>>> I'll get to ride all Christmas break.  Furthermore, I might leave the 
>>> Hilsen down there all the way through Strada Rossa!
>>> 
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[RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-09 Thread Tim Gavin 
I took my Riv on a 25 mile ride today, and took a break at Little Bohemia 
tap in Cedar Rapids.  It claims to be the oldest bar & eatery in town.  
Lots of kitsch and character, and some very tasty goulash over dumplings.  

The owner's finger in the lens is a perfect example of the character.  This 
whole area was flooded in August 2008, about up to the top of the door.  It 
reopened at the end of 2010, although not much of the old neighborhood is 
left.  http://thegazette.com/2010/12/28/little-bohemia-returns/




This bar was featured in a famous painting by Marvin Cone (contemporary of 
Grant Wood).


[image: 
http://thegazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Little-Bohemia-Tavern-1941-Marvin-Cone1.jpg]

Tim Gavin

Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-09 Thread Elisabeth Sherwood 
Oh, boy! Thanks, Dan -- exactly what I needed.

Did you have any problem removing the rivet?  I tried to figure out how to 
remove that thing for, well, way too long when I first installed the fender 
(and finally gave up, figuring I was likely to cause more damage to the 
fender than could be repaired), and couldn't figure it out. I see Riv tells 
you how to do it, but I'm a little skeptical!

-- Liz


On Friday, November 8, 2013 12:17:25 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote:
>
> When I was building my wife's Betty Foy I had the same problem. 
> Fortunately these items exist:
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/fe92.htm
>
> It was a very tidy solution. And they work well.
>
> Dan
>
> -Marin
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J <
> [email protected] > wrote:
>
>>  Why not take off the fender flap?
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* [email protected]  [mailto:
>> [email protected] ] *On Behalf Of *Elisabeth 
>> Sherwood
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:36 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] 
>> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders
>>
>>  
>>  
>> I had Sheldon's fender nuts to install Longboards on my 650B wheels (and 
>> was able to get the right size bolts from the hardware store [how in the 
>> world is it possible that they don't COME with bolts???]), but after 
>> mounting I realized it wasn't going to work -- for the front, it moved the 
>> fender an inch closer to the ground. Even attaching the fender to the front 
>> of the fork crown and having 38mm tires, I still worry about the bottom of 
>> the fender flap hitting something on the ground!
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> -- Liz S.
>>  
>> Washington, DC
>>  
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 3:13:37 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>  
>> Bill-
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> I have some sheldon's fender nuts, but I didn't use them because I didn't 
>> have any bolts that fit them (fenders had one size smaller in hardware).  I 
>> understand that they make de-fendering easier (no need to remove brake 
>> caliper, etc), but I don't see how they'll improve fender line.  They move 
>> the front fender rearward an inch or two; how does that help?  I appreciate 
>> any advice; this was my second ever fender install.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Nice thing about using a pickup bed as my main bike transport: no need to 
>> remove any wheels, fenders, etc.  Just lay it on the side and close the 
>> topper.  So I'll probably leave these fenders on for a while.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Tim
>>  
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>  
>> Many will tell you that a bike that looks that good with fenders should 
>> never be run without fenders.  That's a stunner.  As you think about your 
>> fenderline tweaks, consider running a pair of Sheldon nuts.  For bikes of 
>> that type, I think it might be the smartest route
>>
>> That said, I still do it (occasional fenderizing and defenderizing):  The 
>> trails out my backdoor (Wildcat Canyon) can get muddy, and so for winter 
>> mudding the fenders have to be able to come off.  That applies to two 
>> bikes.  My roadiest bike sometimes has the fenders off when I'm feeling a 
>> weight-weenie attack, or when I want to run THE FATTEST possible tire.  
>> Finally, I had the chance to throw my Hilsen into my sister's trunk for 
>> free transport to Southern California, so the fenders had to come off.  Now 
>> I'll get to ride all Christmas break.  Furthermore, I might leave the 
>> Hilsen down there all the way through Strada Rossa! 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-08 Thread Deacon Patrick 
Co ic cwaping konsoninse. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick


On Friday, November 8, 2013 3:35:31 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> Kream is Klassy.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Tim Gavin 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the compliments, folks.  I got really lucky when I snagged 
>> this Riv off of CL this spring.  I've had fun and learned a lot in making 
>> it into my own.
>>
>> I'll probably leave the fenders on indefinitely, so long as they don't 
>> interfere with my enjoyment of the bike.
>>
>> Segue: 
>> The light blue bar tape is a bit too subtle.  I have some bright blue 
>> that I think will look nice.  Any other color suggestions?  I like greens, 
>> both light and dark.  And leather-brown looks nice with the Brooks; I've 
>> used Deda brown tape on my gofast and my girlfriend's bike.
>>  
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:50 PM, George Schick 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I hafta agree with all y'all, that really is a beautiful combination of 
>>> colors.  If anything, transforming it into 650B only makes it look better. 
>>>  But if it were me, I'd just leave those fenders on all year 'round.  Why 
>>> not?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 8, 2013 1:46:33 PM UTC-6, Cecily Walker wrote:

 Beautiful combination. I was skeptical about cream fenders on the Betty 
 Foy when Keven first suggested it and chose silver for my local build. 
 When 
 the local bike shop made a mistake and put cream ones on, once I saw them 
 on the bike I knew I'd made the right choice. I run fenders year round 
 here 
 in Vancouver, rain or shine.



 On Thursday, November 7, 2013 8:20:37 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I finally mounted fenders to my Riv last night.  Looking pretty 
> classy, but I need to tweak the fender line.  The front is especially 
> tricky; I think I need to bend down the top of the crown mount to clear 
> the 
> headset; like in the Riv install video.  The cream Longboards go well 
> with 
> the headtube and graphics.
>
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>
> '97 Rivendell Road Standard (Reynolds 753, 531 fork)
> Nitto moustache bars, Silver bar-ends, Cane Creek SC5 levers (gum)
> Brooks Flyer with Carradice Nelson
> 50/40/30 Campy triple crank on Phil BB
> 9 speed 11-32 cassette with Microshift derailer
> Shimano A530 Campus pedals with Riv spikes
> 650x38B Grand Bois Lierre on Zac19 rims, Deore hubs
> SKS Longboard fenders
> Nitto Mark's rack with medium Wald basket
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-08 Thread Christopher Chen 
Kream is Klassy.


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Tim Gavin wrote:

> Thanks for all the compliments, folks.  I got really lucky when I snagged
> this Riv off of CL this spring.  I've had fun and learned a lot in making
> it into my own.
>
> I'll probably leave the fenders on indefinitely, so long as they don't
> interfere with my enjoyment of the bike.
>
> Segue:
> The light blue bar tape is a bit too subtle.  I have some bright blue that
> I think will look nice.  Any other color suggestions?  I like greens, both
> light and dark.  And leather-brown looks nice with the Brooks; I've used
> Deda brown tape on my gofast and my girlfriend's bike.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:50 PM, George Schick  wrote:
>
>> I hafta agree with all y'all, that really is a beautiful combination of
>> colors.  If anything, transforming it into 650B only makes it look better.
>>  But if it were me, I'd just leave those fenders on all year 'round.  Why
>> not?
>>
>>
>> On Friday, November 8, 2013 1:46:33 PM UTC-6, Cecily Walker wrote:
>>>
>>> Beautiful combination. I was skeptical about cream fenders on the Betty
>>> Foy when Keven first suggested it and chose silver for my local build. When
>>> the local bike shop made a mistake and put cream ones on, once I saw them
>>> on the bike I knew I'd made the right choice. I run fenders year round here
>>> in Vancouver, rain or shine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 8:20:37 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:

 I finally mounted fenders to my Riv last night.  Looking pretty classy,
 but I need to tweak the fender line.  The front is especially tricky; I
 think I need to bend down the top of the crown mount to clear the headset;
 like in the Riv install video.  The cream Longboards go well with the
 headtube and graphics.

 Tim Gavin
 Cedar Rapids, IA

 '97 Rivendell Road Standard (Reynolds 753, 531 fork)
 Nitto moustache bars, Silver bar-ends, Cane Creek SC5 levers (gum)
 Brooks Flyer with Carradice Nelson
 50/40/30 Campy triple crank on Phil BB
 9 speed 11-32 cassette with Microshift derailer
 Shimano A530 Campus pedals with Riv spikes
 650x38B Grand Bois Lierre on Zac19 rims, Deore hubs
 SKS Longboard fenders
 Nitto Mark's rack with medium Wald basket


 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-08 Thread Tim Gavin 
Thanks for all the compliments, folks.  I got really lucky when I snagged
this Riv off of CL this spring.  I've had fun and learned a lot in making
it into my own.

I'll probably leave the fenders on indefinitely, so long as they don't
interfere with my enjoyment of the bike.

Segue:
The light blue bar tape is a bit too subtle.  I have some bright blue that
I think will look nice.  Any other color suggestions?  I like greens, both
light and dark.  And leather-brown looks nice with the Brooks; I've used
Deda brown tape on my gofast and my girlfriend's bike.

Tim


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:50 PM, George Schick  wrote:

> I hafta agree with all y'all, that really is a beautiful combination of
> colors.  If anything, transforming it into 650B only makes it look better.
>  But if it were me, I'd just leave those fenders on all year 'round.  Why
> not?
>
>
> On Friday, November 8, 2013 1:46:33 PM UTC-6, Cecily Walker wrote:
>>
>> Beautiful combination. I was skeptical about cream fenders on the Betty
>> Foy when Keven first suggested it and chose silver for my local build. When
>> the local bike shop made a mistake and put cream ones on, once I saw them
>> on the bike I knew I'd made the right choice. I run fenders year round here
>> in Vancouver, rain or shine.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 8:20:37 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>>
>>> I finally mounted fenders to my Riv last night.  Looking pretty classy,
>>> but I need to tweak the fender line.  The front is especially tricky; I
>>> think I need to bend down the top of the crown mount to clear the headset;
>>> like in the Riv install video.  The cream Longboards go well with the
>>> headtube and graphics.
>>>
>>> Tim Gavin
>>> Cedar Rapids, IA
>>>
>>> '97 Rivendell Road Standard (Reynolds 753, 531 fork)
>>> Nitto moustache bars, Silver bar-ends, Cane Creek SC5 levers (gum)
>>> Brooks Flyer with Carradice Nelson
>>> 50/40/30 Campy triple crank on Phil BB
>>> 9 speed 11-32 cassette with Microshift derailer
>>> Shimano A530 Campus pedals with Riv spikes
>>> 650x38B Grand Bois Lierre on Zac19 rims, Deore hubs
>>> SKS Longboard fenders
>>> Nitto Mark's rack with medium Wald basket
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-08 Thread George Schick 
I hafta agree with all y'all, that really is a beautiful combination of 
colors.  If anything, transforming it into 650B only makes it look better. 
 But if it were me, I'd just leave those fenders on all year 'round.  Why 
not?


On Friday, November 8, 2013 1:46:33 PM UTC-6, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
> Beautiful combination. I was skeptical about cream fenders on the Betty 
> Foy when Keven first suggested it and chose silver for my local build. When 
> the local bike shop made a mistake and put cream ones on, once I saw them 
> on the bike I knew I'd made the right choice. I run fenders year round here 
> in Vancouver, rain or shine.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 8:20:37 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> I finally mounted fenders to my Riv last night.  Looking pretty classy, 
>> but I need to tweak the fender line.  The front is especially tricky; I 
>> think I need to bend down the top of the crown mount to clear the headset; 
>> like in the Riv install video.  The cream Longboards go well with the 
>> headtube and graphics.
>>
>> Tim Gavin
>> Cedar Rapids, IA
>>
>> '97 Rivendell Road Standard (Reynolds 753, 531 fork)
>> Nitto moustache bars, Silver bar-ends, Cane Creek SC5 levers (gum)
>> Brooks Flyer with Carradice Nelson
>> 50/40/30 Campy triple crank on Phil BB
>> 9 speed 11-32 cassette with Microshift derailer
>> Shimano A530 Campus pedals with Riv spikes
>> 650x38B Grand Bois Lierre on Zac19 rims, Deore hubs
>> SKS Longboard fenders
>> Nitto Mark's rack with medium Wald basket
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-08 Thread Cecily Walker 
Beautiful combination. I was skeptical about cream fenders on the Betty Foy 
when Keven first suggested it and chose silver for my local build. When the 
local bike shop made a mistake and put cream ones on, once I saw them on 
the bike I knew I'd made the right choice. I run fenders year round here in 
Vancouver, rain or shine.



On Thursday, November 7, 2013 8:20:37 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I finally mounted fenders to my Riv last night.  Looking pretty classy, 
> but I need to tweak the fender line.  The front is especially tricky; I 
> think I need to bend down the top of the crown mount to clear the headset; 
> like in the Riv install video.  The cream Longboards go well with the 
> headtube and graphics.
>
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>
> '97 Rivendell Road Standard (Reynolds 753, 531 fork)
> Nitto moustache bars, Silver bar-ends, Cane Creek SC5 levers (gum)
> Brooks Flyer with Carradice Nelson
> 50/40/30 Campy triple crank on Phil BB
> 9 speed 11-32 cassette with Microshift derailer
> Shimano A530 Campus pedals with Riv spikes
> 650x38B Grand Bois Lierre on Zac19 rims, Deore hubs
> SKS Longboard fenders
> Nitto Mark's rack with medium Wald basket
>
>
> 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-08 Thread Dan McNamara 
When I was building my wife's Betty Foy I had the same problem. Fortunately
these items exist:

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/fe92.htm

It was a very tidy solution. And they work well.

Dan

-Marin


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Why not take off the fender flap?
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Elisabeth Sherwood
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:36 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders
>
>
>
> I had Sheldon's fender nuts to install Longboards on my 650B wheels (and
> was able to get the right size bolts from the hardware store [how in the
> world is it possible that they don't COME with bolts???]), but after
> mounting I realized it wasn't going to work -- for the front, it moved the
> fender an inch closer to the ground. Even attaching the fender to the front
> of the fork crown and having 38mm tires, I still worry about the bottom of
> the fender flap hitting something on the ground!
>
>
>
> -- Liz S.
>
> Washington, DC
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 3:13:37 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Bill-
>
>
>
> I have some sheldon's fender nuts, but I didn't use them because I didn't
> have any bolts that fit them (fenders had one size smaller in hardware).  I
> understand that they make de-fendering easier (no need to remove brake
> caliper, etc), but I don't see how they'll improve fender line.  They move
> the front fender rearward an inch or two; how does that help?  I appreciate
> any advice; this was my second ever fender install.
>
>
>
> Nice thing about using a pickup bed as my main bike transport: no need to
> remove any wheels, fenders, etc.  Just lay it on the side and close the
> topper.  So I'll probably leave these fenders on for a while.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Tim
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> Many will tell you that a bike that looks that good with fenders should
> never be run without fenders.  That's a stunner.  As you think about your
> fenderline tweaks, consider running a pair of Sheldon nuts.  For bikes of
> that type, I think it might be the smartest route
>
> That said, I still do it (occasional fenderizing and defenderizing):  The
> trails out my backdoor (Wildcat Canyon) can get muddy, and so for winter
> mudding the fenders have to be able to come off.  That applies to two
> bikes.  My roadiest bike sometimes has the fenders off when I'm feeling a
> weight-weenie attack, or when I want to run THE FATTEST possible tire.
> Finally, I had the chance to throw my Hilsen into my sister's trunk for
> free transport to Southern California, so the fenders had to come off.  Now
> I'll get to ride all Christmas break.  Furthermore, I might leave the
> Hilsen down there all the way through Strada Rossa!
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RE: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-08 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J 
Why not take off the fender flap?

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elisabeth Sherwood
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

I had Sheldon's fender nuts to install Longboards on my 650B wheels (and was 
able to get the right size bolts from the hardware store [how in the world is 
it possible that they don't COME with bolts???]), but after mounting I realized 
it wasn't going to work -- for the front, it moved the fender an inch closer to 
the ground. Even attaching the fender to the front of the fork crown and having 
38mm tires, I still worry about the bottom of the fender flap hitting something 
on the ground!

-- Liz S.
Washington, DC


On Thursday, November 7, 2013 3:13:37 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
Bill-

I have some sheldon's fender nuts, but I didn't use them because I didn't have 
any bolts that fit them (fenders had one size smaller in hardware).  I 
understand that they make de-fendering easier (no need to remove brake caliper, 
etc), but I don't see how they'll improve fender line.  They move the front 
fender rearward an inch or two; how does that help?  I appreciate any advice; 
this was my second ever fender install.

Nice thing about using a pickup bed as my main bike transport: no need to 
remove any wheels, fenders, etc.  Just lay it on the side and close the topper. 
 So I'll probably leave these fenders on for a while.

Thanks,

Tim
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Bill Lindsay > 
wrote:
Many will tell you that a bike that looks that good with fenders should never 
be run without fenders.  That's a stunner.  As you think about your fenderline 
tweaks, consider running a pair of Sheldon nuts.  For bikes of that type, I 
think it might be the smartest route

That said, I still do it (occasional fenderizing and defenderizing):  The 
trails out my backdoor (Wildcat Canyon) can get muddy, and so for winter 
mudding the fenders have to be able to come off.  That applies to two bikes.  
My roadiest bike sometimes has the fenders off when I'm feeling a weight-weenie 
attack, or when I want to run THE FATTEST possible tire.  Finally, I had the 
chance to throw my Hilsen into my sister's trunk for free transport to Southern 
California, so the fenders had to come off.  Now I'll get to ride all Christmas 
break.  Furthermore, I might leave the Hilsen down there all the way through 
Strada Rossa!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-08 Thread Elisabeth Sherwood 
I had Sheldon's fender nuts to install Longboards on my 650B wheels (and 
was able to get the right size bolts from the hardware store [how in the 
world is it possible that they don't COME with bolts???]), but after 
mounting I realized it wasn't going to work -- for the front, it moved the 
fender an inch closer to the ground. Even attaching the fender to the front 
of the fork crown and having 38mm tires, I still worry about the bottom of 
the fender flap hitting something on the ground!

-- Liz S.
Washington, DC


On Thursday, November 7, 2013 3:13:37 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Bill-
>
> I have some sheldon's fender nuts, but I didn't use them because I didn't 
> have any bolts that fit them (fenders had one size smaller in hardware).  I 
> understand that they make de-fendering easier (no need to remove brake 
> caliper, etc), but I don't see how they'll improve fender line.  They move 
> the front fender rearward an inch or two; how does that help?  I appreciate 
> any advice; this was my second ever fender install.
>
> Nice thing about using a pickup bed as my main bike transport: no need to 
> remove any wheels, fenders, etc.  Just lay it on the side and close the 
> topper.  So I'll probably leave these fenders on for a while.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Bill Lindsay 
> > wrote:
>
>> Many will tell you that a bike that looks that good with fenders should 
>> never be run without fenders.  That's a stunner.  As you think about your 
>> fenderline tweaks, consider running a pair of Sheldon nuts.  For bikes of 
>> that type, I think it might be the smartest route
>>
>> That said, I still do it (occasional fenderizing and defenderizing):  The 
>> trails out my backdoor (Wildcat Canyon) can get muddy, and so for winter 
>> mudding the fenders have to be able to come off.  That applies to two 
>> bikes.  My roadiest bike sometimes has the fenders off when I'm feeling a 
>> weight-weenie attack, or when I want to run THE FATTEST possible tire.  
>> Finally, I had the chance to throw my Hilsen into my sister's trunk for 
>> free transport to Southern California, so the fenders had to come off.  Now 
>> I'll get to ride all Christmas break.  Furthermore, I might leave the 
>> Hilsen down there all the way through Strada Rossa! 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-07 Thread Tim Gavin 
Jim-

Yes, the bottom bracket is pretty low; Grant's right on that one.  I should 
measure it some time.  I have 170 crank arms and the (quite low profile) 
campus pedals scrape rarely when I pedal while leaned way into a turn.  
Yes, Tektro R556 brakes have the perfect reach.

But the ability to ride fast and comfortable 650x38B tires and mount 
fenders outweighs the occasional pedal scar.  I rarely pedal in corners 
anyway.

This bike has evolved into a rambler, a light tourer, ace commuter, library 
runner, and farmer's market basket.  I have a gofast steel racer for when 
I'm feeling speedy.  The Riv is for riding for the pleasure of riding.  
It's versatile, sexy, and fast.

Tim Gavin

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 6:05:40 PM UTC-6, Jim Cloud wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> You've obviously converted your Riv from 700c to 650B.  How has that 
> worked for you?  Most of the information I've seen, including some from 
> Grant himself, is that the original Rivendell Road Standards were not good 
> candidates for a conversion because of the low bottom bracket that Grant 
> specified for his original Road Standard bikes.  What is the length of your 
> crank arms?  Are you using the Tektro R556 brakes?
>
> Jim Cloud
>
> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:20:37 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> I finally mounted fenders to my Riv last night.  Looking pretty classy, 
>> but I need to tweak the fender line.  The front is especially tricky; I 
>> think I need to bend down the top of the crown mount to clear the headset; 
>> like in the Riv install video.  The cream Longboards go well with the 
>> headtube and graphics.
>>
>> Tim Gavin
>> Cedar Rapids, IA
>>
>> '97 Rivendell Road Standard (Reynolds 753, 531 fork)
>> Nitto moustache bars, Silver bar-ends, Cane Creek SC5 levers (gum)
>> Brooks Flyer with Carradice Nelson
>> 50/40/30 Campy triple crank on Phil BB
>> 9 speed 11-32 cassette with Microshift derailer
>> Shimano A530 Campus pedals with Riv spikes
>> 650x38B Grand Bois Lierre on Zac19 rims, Deore hubs
>> SKS Longboard fenders
>> Nitto Mark's rack with medium Wald basket
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>
> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:20:37 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> I finally mounted fenders to my Riv last night.  Looking pretty classy, 
>> but I need to tweak the fender line.  The front is especially tricky; I 
>> think I need to bend down the top of the crown mount to clear the headset; 
>> like in the Riv install video.  The cream Longboards go well with the 
>> headtube and graphics.
>>
>> Tim Gavin
>> Cedar Rapids, IA
>>
>> '97 Rivendell Road Standard (Reynolds 753, 531 fork)
>> Nitto moustache bars, Silver bar-ends, Cane Creek SC5 levers (gum)
>> Brooks Flyer with Carradice Nelson
>> 50/40/30 Campy triple crank on Phil BB
>> 9 speed 11-32 cassette with Microshift derailer
>> Shimano A530 Campus pedals with Riv spikes
>> 650x38B Grand Bois Lierre on Zac19 rims, Deore hubs
>> SKS Longboard fenders
>> Nitto Mark's rack with medium Wald basket
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-07 Thread Tony DeFilippo 
That bike is gorgeous, first red with the cream had tube I've seen.  Some one 
said 'stunner' and that sums it up for me.  I just put SKS fenders on my 
Atlantis and was thrilled at how easy the install went.

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[RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-07 Thread Jim Cloud 
Tim,

You've obviously converted your Riv from 700c to 650B.  How has that worked 
for you?  Most of the information I've seen, including some from Grant 
himself, is that the original Rivendell Road Standards were not good 
candidates for a conversion because of the low bottom bracket that Grant 
specified for his original Road Standard bikes.  What is the length of your 
crank arms?  Are you using the Tektro R556 brakes?

Jim Cloud

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:20:37 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I finally mounted fenders to my Riv last night.  Looking pretty classy, 
> but I need to tweak the fender line.  The front is especially tricky; I 
> think I need to bend down the top of the crown mount to clear the headset; 
> like in the Riv install video.  The cream Longboards go well with the 
> headtube and graphics.
>
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>
> '97 Rivendell Road Standard (Reynolds 753, 531 fork)
> Nitto moustache bars, Silver bar-ends, Cane Creek SC5 levers (gum)
> Brooks Flyer with Carradice Nelson
> 50/40/30 Campy triple crank on Phil BB
> 9 speed 11-32 cassette with Microshift derailer
> Shimano A530 Campus pedals with Riv spikes
> 650x38B Grand Bois Lierre on Zac19 rims, Deore hubs
> SKS Longboard fenders
> Nitto Mark's rack with medium Wald basket
>
>
> 
>

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:20:37 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I finally mounted fenders to my Riv last night.  Looking pretty classy, 
> but I need to tweak the fender line.  The front is especially tricky; I 
> think I need to bend down the top of the crown mount to clear the headset; 
> like in the Riv install video.  The cream Longboards go well with the 
> headtube and graphics.
>
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>
> '97 Rivendell Road Standard (Reynolds 753, 531 fork)
> Nitto moustache bars, Silver bar-ends, Cane Creek SC5 levers (gum)
> Brooks Flyer with Carradice Nelson
> 50/40/30 Campy triple crank on Phil BB
> 9 speed 11-32 cassette with Microshift derailer
> Shimano A530 Campus pedals with Riv spikes
> 650x38B Grand Bois Lierre on Zac19 rims, Deore hubs
> SKS Longboard fenders
> Nitto Mark's rack with medium Wald basket
>
>
> 
>

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[RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-07 Thread hsmitham 
Tim,

Love the look of the bike, I agree the cream fenders compliment the cream 
head tube. I have a pair that are going on the wife's Betty.

Bill,

Thanks for the explanation as I was wondering about the fender nuts and the 
whole fendering process.

~Hugh

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 8:20:37 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I finally mounted fenders to my Riv last night.  Looking pretty classy, 
> but I need to tweak the fender line.  The front is especially tricky; I 
> think I need to bend down the top of the crown mount to clear the headset; 
> like in the Riv install video.  The cream Longboards go well with the 
> headtube and graphics.
>
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>
> '97 Rivendell Road Standard (Reynolds 753, 531 fork)
> Nitto moustache bars, Silver bar-ends, Cane Creek SC5 levers (gum)
> Brooks Flyer with Carradice Nelson
> 50/40/30 Campy triple crank on Phil BB
> 9 speed 11-32 cassette with Microshift derailer
> Shimano A530 Campus pedals with Riv spikes
> 650x38B Grand Bois Lierre on Zac19 rims, Deore hubs
> SKS Longboard fenders
> Nitto Mark's rack with medium Wald basket
>
>
> 
>

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[RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-07 Thread Michael Hechmer 
Sweet looking bike Tim, although I'm not sure what this thing you call Fall 
is.  Here in Vt we have had a week of hi winds and low chill factors.  

As for 650B, I would recommend going for it.  I bought a new-to-me Saluki 
with Pari-Motos last Spring and have fallen in love with it.  So much so 
that I repainted my old Trek 620 and converted it.  All you would need is 
new wheels (or just rims & spokes) and brakes.  You would not regret it.

Michael

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 11:20:37 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I finally mounted fenders to my Riv last night.  Looking pretty classy, 
> but I need to tweak the fender line.  The front is especially tricky; I 
> think I need to bend down the top of the crown mount to clear the headset; 
> like in the Riv install video.  The cream Longboards go well with the 
> headtube and graphics.
>
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>
> '97 Rivendell Road Standard (Reynolds 753, 531 fork)
> Nitto moustache bars, Silver bar-ends, Cane Creek SC5 levers (gum)
> Brooks Flyer with Carradice Nelson
> 50/40/30 Campy triple crank on Phil BB
> 9 speed 11-32 cassette with Microshift derailer
> Shimano A530 Campus pedals with Riv spikes
> 650x38B Grand Bois Lierre on Zac19 rims, Deore hubs
> SKS Longboard fenders
> Nitto Mark's rack with medium Wald basket
>
>
> 
>

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[RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-07 Thread Ryan 
Tim, your bike does,indeed ,look very classy. I love those 1st generation 
Rivs
On Thursday, November 7, 2013 10:20:37 AM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote: 
>
> I finally mounted fenders to my Riv last night.  Looking pretty classy, 
> but I need to tweak the fender line.  The front is especially tricky; I 
> think I need to bend down the top of the crown mount to clear the headset; 
> like in the Riv install video.  The cream Longboards go well with the 
> headtube and graphics. 
>
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>
> '97 Rivendell Road Standard (Reynolds 753, 531 fork)
> Nitto moustache bars, Silver bar-ends, Cane Creek SC5 levers (gum)
> Brooks Flyer with Carradice Nelson
> 50/40/30 Campy triple crank on Phil BB
> 9 speed 11-32 cassette with Microshift derailer
> Shimano A530 Campus pedals with Riv spikes
> 650x38B Grand Bois Lierre on Zac19 rims, Deore hubs
> SKS Longboard fenders
> Nitto Mark's rack with medium Wald basket
>
> 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-07 Thread Tim Gavin 
Thanks for the visual, Christoper.  I'm afraid that moving the fender back 
may cause the flap to get very close to the ground; these are a bit low 
already (650B wheels).  I'll give it a try and measure.  I can always trim 
the flap, or--worst case--buy the shorty flap from Riv.  
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/fe92.htm

Tim

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 3:29:27 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> They move the front fender rearward, but not directly rearward, the main 
> benefit is you've moved the whole fender back by about 5-10 degrees.
>
> This means your mudflap comes even lower. Let me illustrate:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/10730758796/
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-07 Thread Christopher Chen 
They move the front fender rearward, but not directly rearward, the main
benefit is you've moved the whole fender back by about 5-10 degrees.

This means your mudflap comes even lower. Let me illustrate:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/10730758796/


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Tim Gavin
wrote:

> Bill-
>
> I have some sheldon's fender nuts, but I didn't use them because I didn't
> have any bolts that fit them (fenders had one size smaller in hardware).  I
> understand that they make de-fendering easier (no need to remove brake
> caliper, etc), but I don't see how they'll improve fender line.  They move
> the front fender rearward an inch or two; how does that help?  I appreciate
> any advice; this was my second ever fender install.
>
> Nice thing about using a pickup bed as my main bike transport: no need to
> remove any wheels, fenders, etc.  Just lay it on the side and close the
> topper.  So I'll probably leave these fenders on for a while.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> Many will tell you that a bike that looks that good with fenders should
>> never be run without fenders.  That's a stunner.  As you think about your
>> fenderline tweaks, consider running a pair of Sheldon nuts.  For bikes of
>> that type, I think it might be the smartest route
>>
>> That said, I still do it (occasional fenderizing and defenderizing):  The
>> trails out my backdoor (Wildcat Canyon) can get muddy, and so for winter
>> mudding the fenders have to be able to come off.  That applies to two
>> bikes.  My roadiest bike sometimes has the fenders off when I'm feeling a
>> weight-weenie attack, or when I want to run THE FATTEST possible tire.
>> Finally, I had the chance to throw my Hilsen into my sister's trunk for
>> free transport to Southern California, so the fenders had to come off.  Now
>> I'll get to ride all Christmas break.  Furthermore, I might leave the
>> Hilsen down there all the way through Strada Rossa!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-07 Thread Shoji Takahashi 
Thanks for the explanation, Bill. I'm filing this away for future reference.

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 3:36:08 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Best of luck with it.  Your bike looks terrific all the same
>
> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:32:04 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> Bill-
>>
>> Thanks for the advice.  I need to pick up a couple M6 bolts (and a better 
>> method to attach the fender at the chainstay bridge) at the hardware store 
>> and I'll give it a try.
>>
>> I can see how they would help you get the fender as high as possible. 
>>  Unfortunately, that won't let me step up from Lierres to Hetres; the 
>> Hetres don't fit horizontally.  I have just about 1.5mm between the tire 
>> sidewalls and the fork legs, chain-, and seatstays.  The Riv Road Standard 
>> geometry says it'll fit 700x35C tires, but mine barely fits 700x28C (short 
>> reach brakes), hence the desire for 650B.  
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 2:24:00 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> Sheldons nuts on bikes with caliper brakes can get the fender just a 
>>> tiny bit higher under the brake and fork crown.  On the front, you can only 
>>> get the fender as high as the slot of that little L-bracket allows.  Yes 
>>> you have to bend the tip to clear the headset bottom cup, but also you'd 
>>> have to dremel it out to get the fender high enough to hit the real limit 
>>> which is the brake caliper itself.  Run the same fender on the sheldon nut 
>>> and you are a couple inches further back (correct) but that also puts you a 
>>> few precious mm further UP.  So you can run the fender a little bit closer 
>>> to the caliper.   On the rear, it's a similar thing, to a lesser extent.  
>>> That precious couple of mm is useful if you want the 10mm everywhere of 
>>> clearance that many recommend.  For some that may make the difference 
>>> between stopping at Lierres (like I have done), or going all the way to 
>>> Hetres.  The fender install can also be completely decoupled from the brake 
>>> adjustment, by using the Sheldon nut, which just simplifies things a 
>>> little.  
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-07 Thread Bill Lindsay 
Best of luck with it.  Your bike looks terrific all the same

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:32:04 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Bill-
>
> Thanks for the advice.  I need to pick up a couple M6 bolts (and a better 
> method to attach the fender at the chainstay bridge) at the hardware store 
> and I'll give it a try.
>
> I can see how they would help you get the fender as high as possible. 
>  Unfortunately, that won't let me step up from Lierres to Hetres; the 
> Hetres don't fit horizontally.  I have just about 1.5mm between the tire 
> sidewalls and the fork legs, chain-, and seatstays.  The Riv Road Standard 
> geometry says it'll fit 700x35C tires, but mine barely fits 700x28C (short 
> reach brakes), hence the desire for 650B.  
>
> Tim
>
> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 2:24:00 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> Sheldons nuts on bikes with caliper brakes can get the fender just a tiny 
>> bit higher under the brake and fork crown.  On the front, you can only get 
>> the fender as high as the slot of that little L-bracket allows.  Yes you 
>> have to bend the tip to clear the headset bottom cup, but also you'd have 
>> to dremel it out to get the fender high enough to hit the real limit which 
>> is the brake caliper itself.  Run the same fender on the sheldon nut and 
>> you are a couple inches further back (correct) but that also puts you a few 
>> precious mm further UP.  So you can run the fender a little bit closer to 
>> the caliper.   On the rear, it's a similar thing, to a lesser extent.  That 
>> precious couple of mm is useful if you want the 10mm everywhere of 
>> clearance that many recommend.  For some that may make the difference 
>> between stopping at Lierres (like I have done), or going all the way to 
>> Hetres.  The fender install can also be completely decoupled from the brake 
>> adjustment, by using the Sheldon nut, which just simplifies things a 
>> little.  
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-07 Thread Tim Gavin 
Bill-

Thanks for the advice.  I need to pick up a couple M6 bolts (and a better 
method to attach the fender at the chainstay bridge) at the hardware store 
and I'll give it a try.

I can see how they would help you get the fender as high as possible. 
 Unfortunately, that won't let me step up from Lierres to Hetres; the 
Hetres don't fit horizontally.  I have just about 1.5mm between the tire 
sidewalls and the fork legs, chain-, and seatstays.  The Riv Road Standard 
geometry says it'll fit 700x35C tires, but mine barely fits 700x28C (short 
reach brakes), hence the desire for 650B.  

Tim

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 2:24:00 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Tim
>
> Sheldons nuts on bikes with caliper brakes can get the fender just a tiny 
> bit higher under the brake and fork crown.  On the front, you can only get 
> the fender as high as the slot of that little L-bracket allows.  Yes you 
> have to bend the tip to clear the headset bottom cup, but also you'd have 
> to dremel it out to get the fender high enough to hit the real limit which 
> is the brake caliper itself.  Run the same fender on the sheldon nut and 
> you are a couple inches further back (correct) but that also puts you a few 
> precious mm further UP.  So you can run the fender a little bit closer to 
> the caliper.   On the rear, it's a similar thing, to a lesser extent.  That 
> precious couple of mm is useful if you want the 10mm everywhere of 
> clearance that many recommend.  For some that may make the difference 
> between stopping at Lierres (like I have done), or going all the way to 
> Hetres.  The fender install can also be completely decoupled from the brake 
> adjustment, by using the Sheldon nut, which just simplifies things a 
> little.  
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-07 Thread Bill Lindsay 
Tim

Sheldons nuts on bikes with caliper brakes can get the fender just a tiny 
bit higher under the brake and fork crown.  On the front, you can only get 
the fender as high as the slot of that little L-bracket allows.  Yes you 
have to bend the tip to clear the headset bottom cup, but also you'd have 
to dremel it out to get the fender high enough to hit the real limit which 
is the brake caliper itself.  Run the same fender on the sheldon nut and 
you are a couple inches further back (correct) but that also puts you a few 
precious mm further UP.  So you can run the fender a little bit closer to 
the caliper.   On the rear, it's a similar thing, to a lesser extent.  That 
precious couple of mm is useful if you want the 10mm everywhere of 
clearance that many recommend.  For some that may make the difference 
between stopping at Lierres (like I have done), or going all the way to 
Hetres.  The fender install can also be completely decoupled from the brake 
adjustment, by using the Sheldon nut, which just simplifies things a 
little.  

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:13:37 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Bill-
>
> I have some sheldon's fender nuts, but I didn't use them because I didn't 
> have any bolts that fit them (fenders had one size smaller in hardware).  I 
> understand that they make de-fendering easier (no need to remove brake 
> caliper, etc), but I don't see how they'll improve fender line.  They move 
> the front fender rearward an inch or two; how does that help?  I appreciate 
> any advice; this was my second ever fender install.
>
> Nice thing about using a pickup bed as my main bike transport: no need to 
> remove any wheels, fenders, etc.  Just lay it on the side and close the 
> topper.  So I'll probably leave these fenders on for a while.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Bill Lindsay 
> > wrote:
>
>> Many will tell you that a bike that looks that good with fenders should 
>> never be run without fenders.  That's a stunner.  As you think about your 
>> fenderline tweaks, consider running a pair of Sheldon nuts.  For bikes of 
>> that type, I think it might be the smartest route
>>
>> That said, I still do it (occasional fenderizing and defenderizing):  The 
>> trails out my backdoor (Wildcat Canyon) can get muddy, and so for winter 
>> mudding the fenders have to be able to come off.  That applies to two 
>> bikes.  My roadiest bike sometimes has the fenders off when I'm feeling a 
>> weight-weenie attack, or when I want to run THE FATTEST possible tire.  
>> Finally, I had the chance to throw my Hilsen into my sister's trunk for 
>> free transport to Southern California, so the fenders had to come off.  Now 
>> I'll get to ride all Christmas break.  Furthermore, I might leave the 
>> Hilsen down there all the way through Strada Rossa! 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-07 Thread Tim Gavin 
Bill-

I have some sheldon's fender nuts, but I didn't use them because I didn't
have any bolts that fit them (fenders had one size smaller in hardware).  I
understand that they make de-fendering easier (no need to remove brake
caliper, etc), but I don't see how they'll improve fender line.  They move
the front fender rearward an inch or two; how does that help?  I appreciate
any advice; this was my second ever fender install.

Nice thing about using a pickup bed as my main bike transport: no need to
remove any wheels, fenders, etc.  Just lay it on the side and close the
topper.  So I'll probably leave these fenders on for a while.

Thanks,

Tim

On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Many will tell you that a bike that looks that good with fenders should
> never be run without fenders.  That's a stunner.  As you think about your
> fenderline tweaks, consider running a pair of Sheldon nuts.  For bikes of
> that type, I think it might be the smartest route
>
> That said, I still do it (occasional fenderizing and defenderizing):  The
> trails out my backdoor (Wildcat Canyon) can get muddy, and so for winter
> mudding the fenders have to be able to come off.  That applies to two
> bikes.  My roadiest bike sometimes has the fenders off when I'm feeling a
> weight-weenie attack, or when I want to run THE FATTEST possible tire.
> Finally, I had the chance to throw my Hilsen into my sister's trunk for
> free transport to Southern California, so the fenders had to come off.  Now
> I'll get to ride all Christmas break.  Furthermore, I might leave the
> Hilsen down there all the way through Strada Rossa!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-07 Thread WETH 
Beautiful bike!

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 11:20:37 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I finally mounted fenders to my Riv last night.  Looking pretty classy, 
> but I need to tweak the fender line.  The front is especially tricky; I 
> think I need to bend down the top of the crown mount to clear the headset; 
> like in the Riv install video.  The cream Longboards go well with the 
> headtube and graphics.
>
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>
> '97 Rivendell Road Standard (Reynolds 753, 531 fork)
> Nitto moustache bars, Silver bar-ends, Cane Creek SC5 levers (gum)
> Brooks Flyer with Carradice Nelson
> 50/40/30 Campy triple crank on Phil BB
> 9 speed 11-32 cassette with Microshift derailer
> Shimano A530 Campus pedals with Riv spikes
> 650x38B Grand Bois Lierre on Zac19 rims, Deore hubs
> SKS Longboard fenders
> Nitto Mark's rack with medium Wald basket
>
>
> 
>

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[RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-07 Thread Shoji Takahashi 
red and cream-- that's a beautiful bike.

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 11:20:37 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I finally mounted fenders to my Riv last night.  Looking pretty classy, 
> but I need to tweak the fender line.  The front is especially tricky; I 
> think I need to bend down the top of the crown mount to clear the headset; 
> like in the Riv install video.  The cream Longboards go well with the 
> headtube and graphics.
>
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>
> '97 Rivendell Road Standard (Reynolds 753, 531 fork)
> Nitto moustache bars, Silver bar-ends, Cane Creek SC5 levers (gum)
> Brooks Flyer with Carradice Nelson
> 50/40/30 Campy triple crank on Phil BB
> 9 speed 11-32 cassette with Microshift derailer
> Shimano A530 Campus pedals with Riv spikes
> 650x38B Grand Bois Lierre on Zac19 rims, Deore hubs
> SKS Longboard fenders
> Nitto Mark's rack with medium Wald basket
>
>
> 
>

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[RBW] Re: Fall = fenders

2013-11-07 Thread Bill Lindsay 
Many will tell you that a bike that looks that good with fenders should 
never be run without fenders.  That's a stunner.  As you think about your 
fenderline tweaks, consider running a pair of Sheldon nuts.  For bikes of 
that type, I think it might be the smartest route

That said, I still do it (occasional fenderizing and defenderizing):  The 
trails out my backdoor (Wildcat Canyon) can get muddy, and so for winter 
mudding the fenders have to be able to come off.  That applies to two 
bikes.  My roadiest bike sometimes has the fenders off when I'm feeling a 
weight-weenie attack, or when I want to run THE FATTEST possible tire.  
Finally, I had the chance to throw my Hilsen into my sister's trunk for 
free transport to Southern California, so the fenders had to come off.  Now 
I'll get to ride all Christmas break.  Furthermore, I might leave the 
Hilsen down there all the way through Strada Rossa! 

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 8:20:37 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I finally mounted fenders to my Riv last night.  Looking pretty classy, 
> but I need to tweak the fender line.  The front is especially tricky; I 
> think I need to bend down the top of the crown mount to clear the headset; 
> like in the Riv install video.  The cream Longboards go well with the 
> headtube and graphics.
>
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>
> '97 Rivendell Road Standard (Reynolds 753, 531 fork)
> Nitto moustache bars, Silver bar-ends, Cane Creek SC5 levers (gum)
> Brooks Flyer with Carradice Nelson
> 50/40/30 Campy triple crank on Phil BB
> 9 speed 11-32 cassette with Microshift derailer
> Shimano A530 Campus pedals with Riv spikes
> 650x38B Grand Bois Lierre on Zac19 rims, Deore hubs
> SKS Longboard fenders
> Nitto Mark's rack with medium Wald basket
>
>
> 
>

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