Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
I've mounted my Cascadias, also without safety releases, in a way that I believe (and hope) will prevent endos from obstructing sticks. On the front I have mounted the struts to clamps halfway up the fork legs (I hope soon to get a custom fork that will incorporate eyelets in similar positions) so that, presumably, the arc of the obstructed fender will increase, rather than decrease, the gap between tire and fender underside. This means that the fenders shake a bit more, but that don't bother me none. Or, it bother me jest a little; not as much as a planted face. Also, the Cascadia is rather, by road standards, absurdly short but, with the very high bb (Monocog 29er with extremely fat tires) it still protects the bb area. On the rear I dispensed with struts altogether by ampumatating a goodly part of the leading edge, so that the fender runs from cs bridge to about a foot aft of the Nelson, where it is attached by zip tie to the Bagman support. Eventually, if the fork works out, I shall have the frame itself modified with (inter alia) mid-stay eyelets, but keep the amputated fender and run struts from where it ends to the stay, not to the dropout. I'm tempted to have the rejuvenated Monocog painted a nice dark blue with cream panels, and install full fluted alum fenders or somesuch, crosshatched bar tape in white and lavender, a steel grey tweed bag on a chromed front rack and purple streamers, but I fear that such fenders would indeed be a more of a liability than an asset. So it will remain primer grey or something with black Cascadias, to match the brutal utilitarian looks of the ugly head tube gusset, violently sloped top tube, upjutter Profile stem, black Salsa Bell Lap cyclocross bars (an inch above saddle! My road bars are 2" below) Truvativ single ring crank, 450 mm black seatpost and 2.6 inch actual Big Apples on the 45 mm drilled Snocat rims, with two parallel, complementary-color rims strips peaking out of the holes. Patrick " the bike is Rivendellian in setup and purpose, even if not in looks" Moore, who does have two remaining of three custom Rivs and loves them. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Rene Sterental wrote: > Well... I received the Planet Bike Cascadia 29er fenders and upon opening > the package and inspecting them, there are no safety quick release tabs on > either front or rear fender. In fact, nothing in the instructions refers to > safety releases at all. I positioned the rear one on my Bombadil to see how > it would fit, and while it fits perfectly on the frame, there it seems to be > a narrow (er) space between the 2.0 knobby and the fender, and with the > large width (60mm) of the fender, it would seem that it would be quite easy > for something to get lodged or stuck between the large knobby tire and the > fender, so I guess I'll probably follow along the recommendation of not > doing any serious mountain biking with fenders. I have not installed them > yet, may do so tomorrow as on Sunday I'm planning to try the bike on the > singletrack in China Camp, north of San Francisco. The trails are not too > aggressive but it will be a good test. There is not much debris on those > trails, so I would not be too concerned about any fenders there anyway. > > Seems like the point of concern would not necessarily be how aggressive a > trail is, but rather how much loose stuff is there. > > So, from the perspective of attachment, it seems there is no difference > between the plastic Cascadia 29er fenders and steel Berthroud 60mm wide > fenders. The point to consider would actually be the extended coverage of > the front steel fender, and the risks that would pose to going over drops > (or down sidewalks for that matter...). > > Will think more about the ultimate use I give the Bombadil, and will > probably go with the system that makes it easier to install and remove the > fenders... > > René > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected] (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
Well... I received the Planet Bike Cascadia 29er fenders and upon opening the package and inspecting them, there are no safety quick release tabs on either front or rear fender. In fact, nothing in the instructions refers to safety releases at all. I positioned the rear one on my Bombadil to see how it would fit, and while it fits perfectly on the frame, there it seems to be a narrow (er) space between the 2.0 knobby and the fender, and with the large width (60mm) of the fender, it would seem that it would be quite easy for something to get lodged or stuck between the large knobby tire and the fender, so I guess I'll probably follow along the recommendation of not doing any serious mountain biking with fenders. I have not installed them yet, may do so tomorrow as on Sunday I'm planning to try the bike on the singletrack in China Camp, north of San Francisco. The trails are not too aggressive but it will be a good test. There is not much debris on those trails, so I would not be too concerned about any fenders there anyway. Seems like the point of concern would not necessarily be how aggressive a trail is, but rather how much loose stuff is there. So, from the perspective of attachment, it seems there is no difference between the plastic Cascadia 29er fenders and steel Berthroud 60mm wide fenders. The point to consider would actually be the extended coverage of the front steel fender, and the risks that would pose to going over drops (or down sidewalks for that matter...). Will think more about the ultimate use I give the Bombadil, and will probably go with the system that makes it easier to install and remove the fenders... René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
> Seeing the response in this tread about the woman whose Honjo crumpled > surprises me. I put to SKS breakaways on my Camper after a Honjos on my Hilsen crumpled while on a limestone trail. The front tire apparently accumulated some tar riding over a (poorly) paved section of the trail. Where the trails reverted to limestone, some stones stuck to the tire rolled under the fender, caught onto the hardware, and siezed the fender. I was not going fast enough to go over the handlebars but had generated enough force that the daruma bolt bent the PaulComp brake mount bolt. Per your earlier post, while I it is possible the SKS breakaway support will lodge in the wheels, I note SKS breakaways were designed with and are required by the German government. I am not aware of Honjos, Berthouds, or other metal fenders going through that level of scrutiny. I have Berthouds on my road bike and love them. SKS will remain the choice for the Camper though. On Dec 18, 10:40 am, John Speare wrote: > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Rene Sterental wrote: > > Hi John, > > What you say makes a lot of sense. Have you ridden off-road (mountain biked) > > with steel fenders? Or is this just your logical analysis of the question I > > posed? While logical analysis make sense (usually), nothing beats actual > > experience. Not that I'm challenging you or anything, I'm just curious since > > your logic pretty much goes against what a lot of people have advised in > > response to my question. > > It does make a lot of sense, but all responses seem to be logical as well... > > :-D > > René > > > -- > > I don't really mountain bike. I do a lot of trail and off-roadish > riding on a bike with a steel fender up front. And I've caught (and > broke) a few sticks in it. Most of my bikes have plastic fenders and > the front release clips drive me bonkers when I'm riding and catch > them and fenders yank out. > > Seeing the response in this tread about the woman whose Honjo crumpled > surprises me. > > Like others the one reservation I'd have about doing "real" mountain > biking with metal fenders would be in how long the front fender hangs > down, which could make hopping/riding over stuff hard. > > -- > John Speare > Spokane, WA USAhttp://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Rene Sterental wrote: > Hi John, > What you say makes a lot of sense. Have you ridden off-road (mountain biked) > with steel fenders? Or is this just your logical analysis of the question I > posed? While logical analysis make sense (usually), nothing beats actual > experience. Not that I'm challenging you or anything, I'm just curious since > your logic pretty much goes against what a lot of people have advised in > response to my question. > It does make a lot of sense, but all responses seem to be logical as well... > :-D > René > > -- I don't really mountain bike. I do a lot of trail and off-roadish riding on a bike with a steel fender up front. And I've caught (and broke) a few sticks in it. Most of my bikes have plastic fenders and the front release clips drive me bonkers when I'm riding and catch them and fenders yank out. Seeing the response in this tread about the woman whose Honjo crumpled surprises me. Like others the one reservation I'd have about doing "real" mountain biking with metal fenders would be in how long the front fender hangs down, which could make hopping/riding over stuff hard. -- John Speare Spokane, WA USA http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
Yep, that's the one. That's why they call 'em an All-Rounder :-) I probably don't need them mounted as it only rains for a day or so now and then, but hey, it keeps the dust down, too. I change bars out every four to six months on whim. In fact, if all goes according to plan I'll pick up some Salsa Woodchippers this morning! On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 5:15 AM, EricP wrote: > Nice. Is that the bike you brought on the ride in August? Don't > remember those bars. > > Oh, and rain? In San Diego? Tell me it ain't so! > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > On Dec 18, 12:06 am, cyclotourist wrote: > > I just put my mudguards/wheelbrows back on last weekend when it was > > actually raining! I ride "trails" a lot with fenders on. These are dirt > > roads/fire roads/forest roads mainly, not singletrack and not with a lot > of > > undergrowth to worry about. Gonna' ride some of them this Sunday with the > > SoCal crowd!!! > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3145241593/in/set-721576025... > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/438261899/in/set-7215760259... > > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Patrick in VT wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 4:21 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > >I put them on during the wet and during the snow months here in ABQ > and > > > > they do make a huge difference especially on dirt. I don't ride in > mud, > > > but > > > > I do ride through puddles and slush and I can attest that fenders on > mtbs > > > do > > > > a great deal to keep bike and rider dry and clean. > > > > > yeah, I use fenders on dirt roads too. and they're great for riding > > > through puddles and slush on gentle single track and unpaved roads - > > > do that all the time. my idea of mountain biking is probably a little > > > different, that's all. > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected] > > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > David > > Redlands, CA > > > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something > > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, > > scientist guy- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
Nice. Is that the bike you brought on the ride in August? Don't remember those bars. Oh, and rain? In San Diego? Tell me it ain't so! Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Dec 18, 12:06 am, cyclotourist wrote: > I just put my mudguards/wheelbrows back on last weekend when it was > actually raining! I ride "trails" a lot with fenders on. These are dirt > roads/fire roads/forest roads mainly, not singletrack and not with a lot of > undergrowth to worry about. Gonna' ride some of them this Sunday with the > SoCal crowd!!! > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3145241593/in/set-721576025... > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/438261899/in/set-7215760259... > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Patrick in VT wrote: > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 4:21 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > >I put them on during the wet and during the snow months here in ABQ and > > > they do make a huge difference especially on dirt. I don't ride in mud, > > but > > > I do ride through puddles and slush and I can attest that fenders on mtbs > > do > > > a great deal to keep bike and rider dry and clean. > > > yeah, I use fenders on dirt roads too. and they're great for riding > > through puddles and slush on gentle single track and unpaved roads - > > do that all the time. my idea of mountain biking is probably a little > > different, that's all. > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, > scientist guy- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
I just put my mudguards/wheelbrows back on last weekend when it was actually raining! I ride "trails" a lot with fenders on. These are dirt roads/fire roads/forest roads mainly, not singletrack and not with a lot of undergrowth to worry about. Gonna' ride some of them this Sunday with the SoCal crowd!!! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3145241593/in/set-72157602592825848/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/438261899/in/set-72157602592825848/ On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Patrick in VT wrote: > On Dec 17, 4:21 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > >I put them on during the wet and during the snow months here in ABQ and > > they do make a huge difference especially on dirt. I don't ride in mud, > but > > I do ride through puddles and slush and I can attest that fenders on mtbs > do > > a great deal to keep bike and rider dry and clean. > > yeah, I use fenders on dirt roads too. and they're great for riding > through puddles and slush on gentle single track and unpaved roads - > do that all the time. my idea of mountain biking is probably a little > different, that's all. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
Thanks. Acorn. On Dec 17, 6:33 am, Rene Sterental wrote: > Thanks Rob, > > Very nice setups. Pretty convincing argument as well. What is that saddlebag > you have on the Bleriot? > > René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
On Dec 17, 4:21 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: >I put them on during the wet and during the snow months here in ABQ and > they do make a huge difference especially on dirt. I don't ride in mud, but > I do ride through puddles and slush and I can attest that fenders on mtbs do > a great deal to keep bike and rider dry and clean. yeah, I use fenders on dirt roads too. and they're great for riding through puddles and slush on gentle single track and unpaved roads - do that all the time. my idea of mountain biking is probably a little different, that's all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
Eric said: Plus wanted to add the Planet Bike Cascadia fenders have built in mudflaps. They do, but unless they have re-designed them -- and quite possibly they have -- they are, as mine are, absurdly short. That actually works out well on the Monocog with its very high bb, but they would leave a lower bb exposed. they can and do wiggle from side to side off-road. They do do this, and they do grind or buzz on knobs. But so far mine haven't broken. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN Patrick from VT said: > > > I just don't see the benefit of having fenders on a dedicated mtb. > > I put them on during the wet and during the snow months here in ABQ and they do make a huge difference especially on dirt. I don't ride in mud, but I do ride through puddles and slush and I can attest that fenders on mtbs do a great deal to keep bike and rider dry and clean. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
On Dec 17, 12:20 am, Rene Sterental wrote: >Not that I'm challenging you or anything, I'm just curious since > your logic pretty much goes against what a lot of people have advised in > response to my question. another data point: my significant other got a stick stuck in her fenders (honjos). the stick didn't break. the fender crumpled and jammed into the front wheel resulting in an accident - if she didn't ride so dreadfully slow, it probably would have been serious. I wouldn't bother putting fenders on a mtb, especially if you do any kind of technical riding or like to bomb around through the woods or on rough single track. not because of a potential accident, but I just don't see the benefit of having fenders on a dedicated mtb. fenders are for keeping the muck off of me when it rains/snows/etc. if I'm mountain biking in the muck, i'm going to get filthy, fenders or not. the bike will too. that said, we hit some pretty knarly rough stuff in VT with fendered bikes all the time with no problems other than the occasional fender adjustment. if that's the kind of mountain biking you're talking about, then by all means . .. fender it up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
I think John and Ron have a good approach. I have ridden off-road with plastic fenders. Even had the rear roll up on my Atlantis. No long lasting effect. Wasn't going that fast. If it had been on a steep downhill, maybe different story. Plus wanted to add the Planet Bike Cascadia fenders have built in mudflaps. I like them for mud (and rain and snow), but they can and do wiggle from side to side off-road. This could be a problem with aggressively knobbed tread. It's not something have had happen, but can see the possibility. All that said, not going to change any of my bikes over to metal fenders. Have used them. Prefer the plastic. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Dec 16, 11:20 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > Hi John, > > What you say makes a lot of sense. Have you ridden off-road (mountain biked) > with steel fenders? Or is this just your logical analysis of the question I > posed? While logical analysis make sense (usually), nothing beats actual > experience. Not that I'm challenging you or anything, I'm just curious since > your logic pretty much goes against what a lot of people have advised in > response to my question. > > It does make a lot of sense, but all responses seem to be logical as well... > :-D > > René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
Thanks Rob, Very nice setups. Pretty convincing argument as well. What is that saddlebag you have on the Bleriot? René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
I hit the trails regularly on my Bleriot and an old RockCombo. Both are shod with Berthouds...the Bleriot doesn't have a ton of clearance so I keep to pretty clear trails. The RockCombo has oversized 700c fenders and long mudflaps over 26" wheels so I have quite a bit of clearance...it's my mudder. I don't really get into any hardcore technical stuff but I do like bombing down single track and ride quite a bit on the local rail/gravel trails. I've had lots of leaves get stuck under the fender but I can really only recall one time where a stick got lodged in the stay...it broke. I know it's a risk but it's a risk everytime you walk out the door. A couple pics of my two steeds... http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502...@n00/2697080231/in/set-72157606340462594/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502...@n00/2697084011/in/set-72157606340462594/ On Dec 16, 9:20 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > Hi John, > > What you say makes a lot of sense. Have you ridden off-road (mountain biked) > with steel fenders? Or is this just your logical analysis of the question I > posed? While logical analysis make sense (usually), nothing beats actual > experience. Not that I'm challenging you or anything, I'm just curious since > your logic pretty much goes against what a lot of people have advised in > response to my question. > > It does make a lot of sense, but all responses seem to be logical as well... > :-D > > René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
Hi John, What you say makes a lot of sense. Have you ridden off-road (mountain biked) with steel fenders? Or is this just your logical analysis of the question I posed? While logical analysis make sense (usually), nothing beats actual experience. Not that I'm challenging you or anything, I'm just curious since your logic pretty much goes against what a lot of people have advised in response to my question. It does make a lot of sense, but all responses seem to be logical as well... :-D René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:12 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > On Dec 10, 5:01 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: >> I am debating whether to install fenders on my new Bombadil, which I still >> haven't had time to finish assembling, but should be done by Saturday at the >> latest, as all I have left is to install the shifters and fine tune the >> brakes. I have switched the knobby tires to Specialized El Capitan Control >> 2Bliss, 2.2 front and 2.0 rear, which now give good clearance. This is >> essentially a 56mm wide front knobby tire and a 51mm wide rear tire. >> >> I'd like to install fenders, which at this point would have to be Giles >> Berthoud stainless steel fenders in 700x60, but am wondering if there would >> be negative risks if I went mountain biking with the fenders. Someone told >> me that a rock or something else could get stuck between tire and fender >> with catastrophic consequences. >> >> I'm also planning to use Marathon Extreme tires when I'm riding it in the >> road primarily and only need easy dirt trail capability, and just discovered >> there is a Marathon Supreme version in 2.0 as well. Will the 1.6 Marathon >> Extremes (42mm wide) look odd or behave oddly with 60mm fenders? >> >> Let me know what you think about mountain biking and going off-road with >> fenders. >> >> René > > A lot of things would have to happen for a rock or other debris to > cause the scenario you described. If those things did come together > and you have a bike with steel fenders, you could wind up crashing - > maybe even going over the handlebars. SKS breakaway fenders do not > look nearly as good as Berthoud but would be more safe. > > Tires are personal choice. I would not want to use Extremes on a bike > that is mostly on paved roads. I think the big Supremes or the more > supple Big Apples would better suit you. Installing plastic fenders with break-away tabs seems in theory the right choice for offroading + fenders, but really it's worse when you think it through and compare a stick getting caught in a stay. On a plastic/break-away fender a stick can easily dislodge the break-away stay, which is annoying at best, and dangerous at worse if the stay in turn catches on something else. In addtion, the rear stays don't have a break-away feature, so a stick lodging in the fender can easily crumple/tear/mangle a plastic fender and take you down. Compare this to a alloy or steel fender that has stronger and more rigid stays. Any stick that is small enough to lodge/get caught in between the stays is much more likely break before the stay or fender deforms or fails. As for rocks getting caught/lodged in the fender, you just need to set it up correctly (regardless of fender type): make sure the gap at the entrance (bottom) of the fender is slightly smaller than the gap at the exit (top) of the fender. -- John Speare Spokane, WA USA http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
Patrick Are you sure that you are writing about the Planet Bike Cascadia fenders here. Other models of PB fenders have what I might consider "excessively short" front fenders, but not the Cascadias: http://tinyurl.com/y8b82jh Dave On Dec 11, 7:48 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Using 60 mm fenders with 42 mm tires will perform fine and look only a bit > off -- I use 45 mms with 22 mm tires on my Riv commuter (22 mm tires because > they are the only size I can find in 559 that have top of line casings; > these are old stock Spec Turbos). > > What you have to worry about is catching obstacles up into the front fender > and, #2, banging the bottom of the front fender on edges of dropoffs. > > I heartily recommend putting aside aesthetic priorities here -- the Riv list > seems fixated on aesthetics to a degree perhaps excessive -- and choose > fenders for practicality, and I suggest the Planet Bike Cascadias. The > excessively short length of the front actually helps because, with fat > tires, it gives more dropoff room; you can always extend the absurdly short > front flap. Moreover, the high trailing end makes it less likely that you > will pick up an obstacle between tire and fender/ > > I use the PBs on my Monocog 29er, where they work very well. They are too > flexible, but that allows they to shrug off bumps and falls; the short front > is adequate thanks to the very high bb of the Monocog -- it keeps the spray > off the bb -- and you can install SKS QR mounts on front, which I have not > bothered to do but ought to consider doing myself. > > Patrick Moore, who has owned 3 custom Rivs and loves their looks, but loves > their fit and feel and handling and quality far far more than their looks. > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Rene Sterental wrote: > > I am debating whether to install fenders on my new Bombadil, which I still > > haven't had time to finish assembling, but should be done by Saturday at the > > latest, as all I have left is to install the shifters and fine tune the > > brakes. I have switched the knobby tires to Specialized El Capitan Control > > 2Bliss, 2.2 front and 2.0 rear, which now give good clearance. This is > > essentially a 56mm wide front knobby tire and a 51mm wide rear tire. > > > I'd like to install fenders, which at this point would have to be Giles > > Berthoud stainless steel fenders in 700x60, but am wondering if there would > > be negative risks if I went mountain biking with the fenders. Someone told > > me that a rock or something else could get stuck between tire and fender > > with catastrophic consequences. > > > I'm also planning to use Marathon Extreme tires when I'm riding it in the > > road primarily and only need easy dirt trail capability, and just discovered > > there is a Marathon Supreme version in 2.0 as well. Will the 1.6 Marathon > > Extremes (42mm wide) look odd or behave oddly with 60mm fenders? > > > Let me know what you think about mountain biking and going off-road with > > fenders. > > > René > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > [email protected]> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected] > (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
Soma makes EuroTrip fenders that are 60 mm wide. What's nice about the Somas is that the stays are designed to pull away from the mount should something become wedged between the tire and fender. To me, the mounting is cleaner than what PB uses. I have a set of the road versions on my single speed and the hybrids on my old Schwinn, and I've been happy with both. --Tom Alexandria, VA On Dec 11, 9:35 am, "Frederick, Steve" wrote: > There's also the length issue. Most metal fenders wrap lower behind the > front wheel which is good for coverage but bad for clearance over trail > obstacles. With shorter plastic fenders, you can extend them with a flexible > mud flap that won't get caught on roots, rocks or logs. (the holy trinity of > fun stuff to launch over) > > Also, Planet Bike makes a 29'er version of their Cascadia fenders that would > no doubt offer plenty of coverage. I think that quick release hardware such > as that provided with SKS fenders is a pretty good idea, though. > > Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI > > > > -Original Message- > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of JoelMatthews > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:25 PM > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain > biking... > > > They sell a size (P55 I think) that will accommodate up to 2.0" tires. > > And then some. They are pretty big fenders. > > > You will pick up many pebbles riding dirt, and metal fenders are just going > > to be too loud > > IMHO. > > That can get annoying real fast. > > On Dec 10, 5:18 pm, newenglandbike wrote: > > I think for offroad you'd want plastic fenders like SKS. They sell > > a size (P55 I think) that will accommodate up to 2.0" tires. I'm > > planning on getting a pair for my bike. You will pick up many > > pebbles riding dirt, and metal fenders are just going to be too loud > > IMHO. > > > On Dec 10, 6:01 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > > > > I am debating whether to install fenders on my new Bombadil, which I still > > > haven't had time to finish assembling, but should be done by Saturday at > > > the > > > latest, as all I have left is to install the shifters and fine tune the > > > brakes. I have switched the knobby tires to Specialized El Capitan Control > > > 2Bliss, 2.2 front and 2.0 rear, which now give good clearance. This is > > > essentially a 56mm wide front knobby tire and a 51mm wide rear tire. > > > > I'd like to install fenders, which at this point would have to be Giles > > > Berthoud stainless steel fenders in 700x60, but am wondering if there > > > would > > > be negative risks if I went mountain biking with the fenders. Someone told > > > me that a rock or something else could get stuck between tire and fender > > > with catastrophic consequences. > > > > I'm also planning to use Marathon Extreme tires when I'm riding it in the > > > road primarily and only need easy dirt trail capability, and just > > > discovered > > > there is a Marathon Supreme version in 2.0 as well. Will the 1.6 Marathon > > > Extremes (42mm wide) look odd or behave oddly with 60mm fenders? > > > > Let me know what you think about mountain biking and going off-road with > > > fenders. > > > > René- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
There's also the length issue. Most metal fenders wrap lower behind the front wheel which is good for coverage but bad for clearance over trail obstacles. With shorter plastic fenders, you can extend them with a flexible mud flap that won't get caught on roots, rocks or logs. (the holy trinity of fun stuff to launch over) Also, Planet Bike makes a 29'er version of their Cascadia fenders that would no doubt offer plenty of coverage. I think that quick release hardware such as that provided with SKS fenders is a pretty good idea, though. Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -Original Message- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of JoelMatthews Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:25 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking... > They sell a size (P55 I think) that will accommodate up to 2.0" tires. And then some. They are pretty big fenders. > You will pick up many pebbles riding dirt, and metal fenders are just going > to be too loud > IMHO. That can get annoying real fast. On Dec 10, 5:18 pm, newenglandbike wrote: > I think for offroad you'd want plastic fenders like SKS. They sell > a size (P55 I think) that will accommodate up to 2.0" tires. I'm > planning on getting a pair for my bike. You will pick up many > pebbles riding dirt, and metal fenders are just going to be too loud > IMHO. > > On Dec 10, 6:01 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > > > > > I am debating whether to install fenders on my new Bombadil, which I still > > haven't had time to finish assembling, but should be done by Saturday at the > > latest, as all I have left is to install the shifters and fine tune the > > brakes. I have switched the knobby tires to Specialized El Capitan Control > > 2Bliss, 2.2 front and 2.0 rear, which now give good clearance. This is > > essentially a 56mm wide front knobby tire and a 51mm wide rear tire. > > > I'd like to install fenders, which at this point would have to be Giles > > Berthoud stainless steel fenders in 700x60, but am wondering if there would > > be negative risks if I went mountain biking with the fenders. Someone told > > me that a rock or something else could get stuck between tire and fender > > with catastrophic consequences. > > > I'm also planning to use Marathon Extreme tires when I'm riding it in the > > road primarily and only need easy dirt trail capability, and just discovered > > there is a Marathon Supreme version in 2.0 as well. Will the 1.6 Marathon > > Extremes (42mm wide) look odd or behave oddly with 60mm fenders? > > > Let me know what you think about mountain biking and going off-road with > > fenders. > > > René- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
Mountain bikes with tires?? Heresy! How are you going to get muddy/dirty? That's half the fun :) Brian On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Dave Craig wrote: > While I haven't tried Extremes, there's absolutely no reason not to > run 2.0 Marathon XR's on or off road on a Bombadil. I've used them > touring and on rugged, fast single track. I'm a pretty aggressive > rider and I don't feel limited by the XR's. They roll pretty well on > roads, though they are a heavy tire and slow to accelerate. They also > aren't the best for fast sweeping turns on blacktop, but that's not > what a Bombadil is best for either . . . > > I run the Planet Bike fenders when my Bombadil is set up as a tourer > with Schwalbe 50mm Supremes and they fit fine. See my bike on the > Bombadil pool on Flickr. The XR's also fit, but I tend not to use > fenders on the bike as an MTB. > > Dave > > > On Dec 10, 7:18 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > > I'll paint it black, like the song says... the PB logo, I mean... :-D > > > > I don't know if having the logos visible will bother me, but if it does > I'll > > do something about them. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:51 PM, EricP wrote: > > > Have PB fenders on one bike. And wife uses them on her steel steed. > > > Really good protection from mud and rocks. And the long mud flap > > > seems to work better than most. > > > > > Beware, though, the fenders do have the Planet BIke name etched into > > > the plastic. Not overly visible, but there. Covered mine with > > > reflective tape. Which itself will soon be covered by black 3M > > > reflective tape. > > > > > Many years ago Moots did a set of fenders for mountain bikes. Too > > > short. They were the first I used that really worked. The front was > > > held on with zip ties to the fork if I remember correctly. > > > > > Eric Platt > > > St. Paul, MN > > > > > On Dec 10, 6:50 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > > > > The potential noise doesn't bother me, but the potential accident > does. > > > > However, led by your suggestions, I just found out that Planet Bike > makes > > > a > > > > set of fenders for 29er moutnain bikes that will cover up to a 2.3 > tire, > > > and > > > > these fit the prescription perfectly. I'll be ordering a set of > those. > > > > > > Here's a review: > > >http://twentynineinches.com/2007/02/13/planet-bike-freddy-fenders-cas. > .. > > > > > > Ren > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:24 PM, JoelMatthews > > > wrote: > > > > > > They sell a size (P55 I think) that will accommodate up to 2.0" > > > tires. > > > > > > > And then some. They are pretty big fenders. > > > > > > > > You will pick up many pebbles riding dirt, and metal fenders are > just > > > > > going to be too loud > > > > > > IMHO. > > > > > > > That can get annoying real fast. > > > > > > > On Dec 10, 5:18 pm, newenglandbike > wrote: > > > > > > I think for offroad you'd want plastic fenders like SKS. They > sell > > > > > > a size (P55 I think) that will accommodate up to 2.0" tires. I'm > > > > > > planning on getting a pair for my bike. You will pick up many > > > > > > pebbles riding dirt, and metal fenders are just going to be too > loud > > > > > > IMHO. > > > > > > > > On Dec 10, 6:01 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > > > > > > > > > I am debating whether to install fenders on my new Bombadil, > which > > > I > > > > > still > > > > > > > haven't had time to finish assembling, but should be done by > > > Saturday > > > > > at the > > > > > > > latest, as all I have left is to install the shifters and fine > tune > > > the > > > > > > > brakes. I have switched the knobby tires to Specialized El > Capitan > > > > > Control > > > > > > > 2Bliss, 2.2 front and 2.0 rear, which now give good clearance. > This > > > is > > > > > > > essentially a 56mm wide front knobby tire and a 51mm wide rear > > > tire. > > > > > > > > > I'd like to install fenders, which at this point would have to > be > > > Giles > > > > > > > Berthoud stainless steel fenders in 700x60, but am wondering if > > > there > > > > > would > > > > > > > be negative risks if I went mountain biking with the fenders. > > > Someone > > > > > told > > > > > > > me that a rock or something else could get stuck between tire > and > > > > > fender > > > > > > > with catastrophic consequences. > > > > > > > > > I'm also planning to use Marathon Extreme tires when I'm riding > it > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > road primarily and only need easy dirt trail capability, and > just > > > > > discovered > > > > > > > there is a Marathon Supreme version in 2.0 as well. Will the > 1.6 > > > > > Marathon > > > > > > > Extremes (42mm wide) look odd or behave oddly with 60mm > fenders? > > > > > > > > > Let me know what you think about mountain biking and going > off-road > > > > > with > > > > > > > fenders. > > > > > > > > > Ren - Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Gro
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
While I haven't tried Extremes, there's absolutely no reason not to run 2.0 Marathon XR's on or off road on a Bombadil. I've used them touring and on rugged, fast single track. I'm a pretty aggressive rider and I don't feel limited by the XR's. They roll pretty well on roads, though they are a heavy tire and slow to accelerate. They also aren't the best for fast sweeping turns on blacktop, but that's not what a Bombadil is best for either . . . I run the Planet Bike fenders when my Bombadil is set up as a tourer with Schwalbe 50mm Supremes and they fit fine. See my bike on the Bombadil pool on Flickr. The XR's also fit, but I tend not to use fenders on the bike as an MTB. Dave On Dec 10, 7:18 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > I'll paint it black, like the song says... the PB logo, I mean... :-D > > I don't know if having the logos visible will bother me, but if it does I'll > do something about them. > > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:51 PM, EricP wrote: > > Have PB fenders on one bike. And wife uses them on her steel steed. > > Really good protection from mud and rocks. And the long mud flap > > seems to work better than most. > > > Beware, though, the fenders do have the Planet BIke name etched into > > the plastic. Not overly visible, but there. Covered mine with > > reflective tape. Which itself will soon be covered by black 3M > > reflective tape. > > > Many years ago Moots did a set of fenders for mountain bikes. Too > > short. They were the first I used that really worked. The front was > > held on with zip ties to the fork if I remember correctly. > > > Eric Platt > > St. Paul, MN > > > On Dec 10, 6:50 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > > > The potential noise doesn't bother me, but the potential accident does. > > > However, led by your suggestions, I just found out that Planet Bike makes > > a > > > set of fenders for 29er moutnain bikes that will cover up to a 2.3 tire, > > and > > > these fit the prescription perfectly. I'll be ordering a set of those. > > > > Here's a review: > >http://twentynineinches.com/2007/02/13/planet-bike-freddy-fenders-cas... > > > > Ren > > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:24 PM, JoelMatthews > > wrote: > > > > > They sell a size (P55 I think) that will accommodate up to 2.0" > > tires. > > > > > And then some. They are pretty big fenders. > > > > > > You will pick up many pebbles riding dirt, and metal fenders are just > > > > going to be too loud > > > > > IMHO. > > > > > That can get annoying real fast. > > > > > On Dec 10, 5:18 pm, newenglandbike wrote: > > > > > I think for offroad you'd want plastic fenders like SKS. They sell > > > > > a size (P55 I think) that will accommodate up to 2.0" tires. I'm > > > > > planning on getting a pair for my bike. You will pick up many > > > > > pebbles riding dirt, and metal fenders are just going to be too loud > > > > > IMHO. > > > > > > On Dec 10, 6:01 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > > > > > > > I am debating whether to install fenders on my new Bombadil, which > > I > > > > still > > > > > > haven't had time to finish assembling, but should be done by > > Saturday > > > > at the > > > > > > latest, as all I have left is to install the shifters and fine tune > > the > > > > > > brakes. I have switched the knobby tires to Specialized El Capitan > > > > Control > > > > > > 2Bliss, 2.2 front and 2.0 rear, which now give good clearance. This > > is > > > > > > essentially a 56mm wide front knobby tire and a 51mm wide rear > > tire. > > > > > > > I'd like to install fenders, which at this point would have to be > > Giles > > > > > > Berthoud stainless steel fenders in 700x60, but am wondering if > > there > > > > would > > > > > > be negative risks if I went mountain biking with the fenders. > > Someone > > > > told > > > > > > me that a rock or something else could get stuck between tire and > > > > fender > > > > > > with catastrophic consequences. > > > > > > > I'm also planning to use Marathon Extreme tires when I'm riding it > > in > > > > the > > > > > > road primarily and only need easy dirt trail capability, and just > > > > discovered > > > > > > there is a Marathon Supreme version in 2.0 as well. Will the 1.6 > > > > Marathon > > > > > > Extremes (42mm wide) look odd or behave oddly with 60mm fenders? > > > > > > > Let me know what you think about mountain biking and going off-road > > > > with > > > > > > fenders. > > > > > > > Ren - Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > . > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > [email protected] > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > . > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted > > text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > >
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
I'll paint it black, like the song says... the PB logo, I mean... :-D I don't know if having the logos visible will bother me, but if it does I'll do something about them. On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:51 PM, EricP wrote: > Have PB fenders on one bike. And wife uses them on her steel steed. > Really good protection from mud and rocks. And the long mud flap > seems to work better than most. > > Beware, though, the fenders do have the Planet BIke name etched into > the plastic. Not overly visible, but there. Covered mine with > reflective tape. Which itself will soon be covered by black 3M > reflective tape. > > Many years ago Moots did a set of fenders for mountain bikes. Too > short. They were the first I used that really worked. The front was > held on with zip ties to the fork if I remember correctly. > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > On Dec 10, 6:50�pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > > The potential noise doesn't bother me, but the potential accident does. > > However, led by your suggestions, I just found out that Planet Bike makes > a > > set of fenders for 29er moutnain bikes that will cover up to a 2.3 tire, > and > > these fit the prescription perfectly. I'll be ordering a set of those. > > > > Here's a review: > http://twentynineinches.com/2007/02/13/planet-bike-freddy-fenders-cas... > > > > Ren� > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:24 PM, JoelMatthews > wrote: > > > > They sell a size (P55 I think) that will accommodate up to 2.0" > tires. > > > > > And then some. �They are pretty big fenders. > > > > > > You will pick up many pebbles riding dirt, and metal fenders are just > > > going to be too loud > > > > IMHO. > > > > > That can get annoying real fast. > > > > > On Dec 10, 5:18 pm, newenglandbike wrote: > > > > I think for offroad you'd want plastic fenders like SKS. � �They sell > > > > a size (P55 I think) that will accommodate up to 2.0" tires. �I'm > > > > planning on getting a pair for my bike. � � You will pick up many > > > > pebbles riding dirt, and metal fenders are just going to be too loud > > > > IMHO. > > > > > > On Dec 10, 6:01 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > > > > > > > I am debating whether to install fenders on my new Bombadil, which > I > > > still > > > > > haven't had time to finish assembling, but should be done by > Saturday > > > at the > > > > > latest, as all I have left is to install the shifters and fine tune > the > > > > > brakes. I have switched the knobby tires to Specialized El Capitan > > > Control > > > > > 2Bliss, 2.2 front and 2.0 rear, which now give good clearance. This > is > > > > > essentially a 56mm wide front knobby tire and a 51mm wide rear > tire. > > > > > > > I'd like to install fenders, which at this point would have to be > Giles > > > > > Berthoud stainless steel fenders in 700x60, but am wondering if > there > > > would > > > > > be negative risks if I went mountain biking with the fenders. > Someone > > > told > > > > > me that a rock or something else could get stuck between tire and > > > fender > > > > > with catastrophic consequences. > > > > > > > I'm also planning to use Marathon Extreme tires when I'm riding it > in > > > the > > > > > road primarily and only need easy dirt trail capability, and just > > > discovered > > > > > there is a Marathon Supreme version in 2.0 as well. Will the 1.6 > > > Marathon > > > > > Extremes (42mm wide) look odd or behave oddly with 60mm fenders? > > > > > > > Let me know what you think about mountain biking and going off-road > > > with > > > > > fenders. > > > > > > > Ren�- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected] > > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted > text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
Have PB fenders on one bike. And wife uses them on her steel steed. Really good protection from mud and rocks. And the long mud flap seems to work better than most. Beware, though, the fenders do have the Planet BIke name etched into the plastic. Not overly visible, but there. Covered mine with reflective tape. Which itself will soon be covered by black 3M reflective tape. Many years ago Moots did a set of fenders for mountain bikes. Too short. They were the first I used that really worked. The front was held on with zip ties to the fork if I remember correctly. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Dec 10, 6:50�pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > The potential noise doesn't bother me, but the potential accident does. > However, led by your suggestions, I just found out that Planet Bike makes a > set of fenders for 29er moutnain bikes that will cover up to a 2.3 tire, and > these fit the prescription perfectly. I'll be ordering a set of those. > > Here's a > review:http://twentynineinches.com/2007/02/13/planet-bike-freddy-fenders-cas... > > Ren� > > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:24 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > They sell a size (P55 I think) that will accommodate up to 2.0" tires. > > > And then some. �They are pretty big fenders. > > > > You will pick up many pebbles riding dirt, and metal fenders are just > > going to be too loud > > > IMHO. > > > That can get annoying real fast. > > > On Dec 10, 5:18 pm, newenglandbike wrote: > > > I think for offroad you'd want plastic fenders like SKS. � �They sell > > > a size (P55 I think) that will accommodate up to 2.0" tires. �I'm > > > planning on getting a pair for my bike. � � You will pick up many > > > pebbles riding dirt, and metal fenders are just going to be too loud > > > IMHO. > > > > On Dec 10, 6:01 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > > > > > I am debating whether to install fenders on my new Bombadil, which I > > still > > > > haven't had time to finish assembling, but should be done by Saturday > > at the > > > > latest, as all I have left is to install the shifters and fine tune the > > > > brakes. I have switched the knobby tires to Specialized El Capitan > > Control > > > > 2Bliss, 2.2 front and 2.0 rear, which now give good clearance. This is > > > > essentially a 56mm wide front knobby tire and a 51mm wide rear tire. > > > > > I'd like to install fenders, which at this point would have to be Giles > > > > Berthoud stainless steel fenders in 700x60, but am wondering if there > > would > > > > be negative risks if I went mountain biking with the fenders. Someone > > told > > > > me that a rock or something else could get stuck between tire and > > fender > > > > with catastrophic consequences. > > > > > I'm also planning to use Marathon Extreme tires when I'm riding it in > > the > > > > road primarily and only need easy dirt trail capability, and just > > discovered > > > > there is a Marathon Supreme version in 2.0 as well. Will the 1.6 > > Marathon > > > > Extremes (42mm wide) look odd or behave oddly with 60mm fenders? > > > > > Let me know what you think about mountain biking and going off-road > > with > > > > fenders. > > > > > Ren�- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
The potential noise doesn't bother me, but the potential accident does. However, led by your suggestions, I just found out that Planet Bike makes a set of fenders for 29er moutnain bikes that will cover up to a 2.3 tire, and these fit the prescription perfectly. I'll be ordering a set of those. Here's a review: http://twentynineinches.com/2007/02/13/planet-bike-freddy-fenders-cascadia-for-29ers/ René On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:24 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > They sell a size (P55 I think) that will accommodate up to 2.0" tires. > > And then some. They are pretty big fenders. > > > You will pick up many pebbles riding dirt, and metal fenders are just > going to be too loud > > IMHO. > > That can get annoying real fast. > > > On Dec 10, 5:18 pm, newenglandbike wrote: > > I think for offroad you'd want plastic fenders like SKS.They sell > > a size (P55 I think) that will accommodate up to 2.0" tires. I'm > > planning on getting a pair for my bike. You will pick up many > > pebbles riding dirt, and metal fenders are just going to be too loud > > IMHO. > > > > On Dec 10, 6:01 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > > > > > > > > > I am debating whether to install fenders on my new Bombadil, which I > still > > > haven't had time to finish assembling, but should be done by Saturday > at the > > > latest, as all I have left is to install the shifters and fine tune the > > > brakes. I have switched the knobby tires to Specialized El Capitan > Control > > > 2Bliss, 2.2 front and 2.0 rear, which now give good clearance. This is > > > essentially a 56mm wide front knobby tire and a 51mm wide rear tire. > > > > > I'd like to install fenders, which at this point would have to be Giles > > > Berthoud stainless steel fenders in 700x60, but am wondering if there > would > > > be negative risks if I went mountain biking with the fenders. Someone > told > > > me that a rock or something else could get stuck between tire and > fender > > > with catastrophic consequences. > > > > > I'm also planning to use Marathon Extreme tires when I'm riding it in > the > > > road primarily and only need easy dirt trail capability, and just > discovered > > > there is a Marathon Supreme version in 2.0 as well. Will the 1.6 > Marathon > > > Extremes (42mm wide) look odd or behave oddly with 60mm fenders? > > > > > Let me know what you think about mountain biking and going off-road > with > > > fenders. > > > > > René- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
> They sell a size (P55 I think) that will accommodate up to 2.0" tires. And then some. They are pretty big fenders. > You will pick up many pebbles riding dirt, and metal fenders are just going > to be too loud > IMHO. That can get annoying real fast. On Dec 10, 5:18 pm, newenglandbike wrote: > I think for offroad you'd want plastic fenders like SKS. They sell > a size (P55 I think) that will accommodate up to 2.0" tires. I'm > planning on getting a pair for my bike. You will pick up many > pebbles riding dirt, and metal fenders are just going to be too loud > IMHO. > > On Dec 10, 6:01 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > > > > > I am debating whether to install fenders on my new Bombadil, which I still > > haven't had time to finish assembling, but should be done by Saturday at the > > latest, as all I have left is to install the shifters and fine tune the > > brakes. I have switched the knobby tires to Specialized El Capitan Control > > 2Bliss, 2.2 front and 2.0 rear, which now give good clearance. This is > > essentially a 56mm wide front knobby tire and a 51mm wide rear tire. > > > I'd like to install fenders, which at this point would have to be Giles > > Berthoud stainless steel fenders in 700x60, but am wondering if there would > > be negative risks if I went mountain biking with the fenders. Someone told > > me that a rock or something else could get stuck between tire and fender > > with catastrophic consequences. > > > I'm also planning to use Marathon Extreme tires when I'm riding it in the > > road primarily and only need easy dirt trail capability, and just discovered > > there is a Marathon Supreme version in 2.0 as well. Will the 1.6 Marathon > > Extremes (42mm wide) look odd or behave oddly with 60mm fenders? > > > Let me know what you think about mountain biking and going off-road with > > fenders. > > > René- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
I think for offroad you'd want plastic fenders like SKS.They sell a size (P55 I think) that will accommodate up to 2.0" tires. I'm planning on getting a pair for my bike. You will pick up many pebbles riding dirt, and metal fenders are just going to be too loud IMHO. On Dec 10, 6:01 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > I am debating whether to install fenders on my new Bombadil, which I still > haven't had time to finish assembling, but should be done by Saturday at the > latest, as all I have left is to install the shifters and fine tune the > brakes. I have switched the knobby tires to Specialized El Capitan Control > 2Bliss, 2.2 front and 2.0 rear, which now give good clearance. This is > essentially a 56mm wide front knobby tire and a 51mm wide rear tire. > > I'd like to install fenders, which at this point would have to be Giles > Berthoud stainless steel fenders in 700x60, but am wondering if there would > be negative risks if I went mountain biking with the fenders. Someone told > me that a rock or something else could get stuck between tire and fender > with catastrophic consequences. > > I'm also planning to use Marathon Extreme tires when I'm riding it in the > road primarily and only need easy dirt trail capability, and just discovered > there is a Marathon Supreme version in 2.0 as well. Will the 1.6 Marathon > Extremes (42mm wide) look odd or behave oddly with 60mm fenders? > > Let me know what you think about mountain biking and going off-road with > fenders. > > René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
A lot of things would have to happen for a rock or other debris to cause the scenario you described. If those things did come together and you have a bike with steel fenders, you could wind up crashing - maybe even going over the handlebars. SKS breakaway fenders do not look nearly as good as Berthoud but would be more safe. Tires are personal choice. I would not want to use Extremes on a bike that is mostly on paved roads. I think the big Supremes or the more supple Big Apples would better suit you. On Dec 10, 5:01 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > I am debating whether to install fenders on my new Bombadil, which I still > haven't had time to finish assembling, but should be done by Saturday at the > latest, as all I have left is to install the shifters and fine tune the > brakes. I have switched the knobby tires to Specialized El Capitan Control > 2Bliss, 2.2 front and 2.0 rear, which now give good clearance. This is > essentially a 56mm wide front knobby tire and a 51mm wide rear tire. > > I'd like to install fenders, which at this point would have to be Giles > Berthoud stainless steel fenders in 700x60, but am wondering if there would > be negative risks if I went mountain biking with the fenders. Someone told > me that a rock or something else could get stuck between tire and fender > with catastrophic consequences. > > I'm also planning to use Marathon Extreme tires when I'm riding it in the > road primarily and only need easy dirt trail capability, and just discovered > there is a Marathon Supreme version in 2.0 as well. Will the 1.6 Marathon > Extremes (42mm wide) look odd or behave oddly with 60mm fenders? > > Let me know what you think about mountain biking and going off-road with > fenders. > > René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
