[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-06-07 Thread Deacon Patrick 
The more I ride mine the more I love them!. Thunder Burts are delicious! My 
ride today is a perfect example of their amazing full-range capacity. 
Asphalt of various types and conditions, Dirt roads of various types and 
conditions, and single track with some technical rocky bits, all in equal 
measure for four hours. TB's are at home on all of them. What a tire!

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 6:10:18 PM UTC-6, Jeffrey Marco wrote:
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> I too recently made the switch. Went with the 29x2.1 Thunder Burt evo's. 
>>  Seriously made this bike come to life. they perfectly compliment the back 
>> roads I typically ride. 
>>  I couldn't fit them under my fenders, but I had been wanting to take 
>> them off for summer anyway. Very pleased with the switch. 
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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-06-07 Thread Jayme Frye 
Details on the build and anncillory bike packing equip.
26"wheeled 56cm Atlantis (purchased off list member)
RTP tires on mismatch wheelset Shimano hubs
Drivetrain 11-36 10 speed cassette, Deore long cage rear mech, single 42t 
chainring (White Industries 180 crank length), VP-001 pedals and SKF BB
Cockpit NOS Nitto Chromo 120mm stem, Soma Fab Oxford handlebar (flipped), 
NOS Suntour brake levers, NOS Suntour thumb shifter, combo Oury grips and 
Newbaums cloth tape
Cambium seat, Tektro CR720 brakes, Pass and Stow 5 rail rack, and Bagman 
Sport saddlebag support (mounts to saddle rails)
Bags used on this trip are the Sea to Summit Event waterproof compression 
bags (I have had great success with these bags keeping gear dry and 
compressing the bulk to fit into small spaces)

I am considering this a phase 1 build to validate the ride qualities and 
utility of an all road 26" supple tire bike. If I find this to be something 
I want to take further I will be looking to build a better wheelset with 
Dyno hub. First few outings have been primarily pavement (couple of 
commutes to work and this pictured camping trip). One note from camping 
trip, one section of county highway had rumble strips cut into the narrow 
(est. width 4 foot) shoulder. Many riders in the group had issues either 
trying to use only the smooth section of shoulder I rolled right through 
the rumble strips with no significant handling issues. :-D 
Hope to get some serious gravel miles in in the coming week.
Cheers

Jayme



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>> Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of 
>> demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's not 
>> good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0" 
>> knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on 
>> them.  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the 
>> Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a 
>> nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do 
>> it.  It should be fun for some summer trail riding.  
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>> FAT-Lantis2 
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>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-06-07 Thread Philip Kim 
Looks like a compression bag from Sea to Summit 
(http://www.seatosummit.com/stuff-compression-sacks/), and just tied to the 
saddle and resting on a carradice QR support.

On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 10:44:12 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> I can't say too much or praise too highly the Furious Fred, if you can run 
> it tubeless. Fast on pavement, too! Mine measure 51 mm on a 30 mm rim.
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> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Mark Reimer  > wrote:
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>> Nice!! Those rat trap pass tires? Man the 26" Atlantis' look so good. 
>> Wish There were 50mm wide Compass tires in 700C. Common Jan... please?
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>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Jayme Frye > > wrote:
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>>> On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 3:38:41 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind 
 of demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's 
 not good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 
 29x2.0" 
 knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on 
 them.  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the 
 Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a 
 nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do 
 it.  It should be fun for some summer trail riding.  

 FAT-Lantis2 

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-06-07 Thread Patrick Moore 
I can't say too much or praise too highly the Furious Fred, if you can run
it tubeless. Fast on pavement, too! Mine measure 51 mm on a 30 mm rim.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Mark Reimer  wrote:

> Nice!! Those rat trap pass tires? Man the 26" Atlantis' look so good. Wish
> There were 50mm wide Compass tires in 700C. Common Jan... please?
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> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Jayme Frye  wrote:
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>> On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 3:38:41 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
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>>> Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of
>>> demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's not
>>> good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0"
>>> knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on
>>> them.  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the
>>> Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a
>>> nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do
>>> it.  It should be fun for some summer trail riding.
>>>
>>> FAT-Lantis2 
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-06-07 Thread Patrick Moore 
Interesting build, and I covet those tires (RTB, right?). Flipped --
Albatross bar?

The gearing is 1 X ? Does the low gear (what is it?) allow you to get up
hills easily with such a load?

What is the bag on the back? It looks like a small duffel, but it must be
designed for seat mounting. Can you describe?

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Jayme Frye  wrote:

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> On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 3:38:41 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
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>> Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of
>> demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's not
>> good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0"
>> knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on
>> them.  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the
>> Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a
>> nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do
>> it.  It should be fun for some summer trail riding.
>>
>> FAT-Lantis2 
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-06-07 Thread Mark Reimer 
Nice!! Those rat trap pass tires? Man the 26" Atlantis' look so good. Wish
There were 50mm wide Compass tires in 700C. Common Jan... please?

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Jayme Frye  wrote:

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> On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 3:38:41 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
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>> Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of
>> demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's not
>> good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0"
>> knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on
>> them.  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the
>> Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a
>> nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do
>> it.  It should be fun for some summer trail riding.
>>
>> FAT-Lantis2 
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-06-07 Thread Jayme Frye 





Joined the FATlantis movement.








 

On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 3:38:41 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
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> Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of 
> demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's not 
> good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0" 
> knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on 
> them.  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the 
> Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a 
> nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do 
> it.  It should be fun for some summer trail riding.  
>
> FAT-Lantis2 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-20 Thread Patrick Moore 
28.2 cm is a wee bit over 11 inches, so good -- nice to know that the
Matthews has Rivendell-levels of bb drop; or rather, that I'm not losing
anything in the Matthews to the Atlantis in *this* regard.

Rivs, as I've said before, are my bike handling/fitting/feeling benchmarks.

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 8:00 AM, Matt B.  wrote:

> I think the BB drop is 8 cm, so it oughta be in the neighborhood of (62.2
> / 2) x (2.54 x 2) - 8 ~= 28.2 cm.
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> On Friday, May 20, 2016 at 9:10:27 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
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>> I'd ride it. Curious: what is the bb height of an Atlantis with 2" tires
>> on it?
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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-20 Thread Bill Lindsay 
What *should *it be:  

622 rim + 51mm tire should be (622 + 51 + 51)/2 = 724mm or 28.5 inches

I measured my Atlantis, axle center to ground, and it was 14-1/4 inches. 
 Good so far...

Wheel radius - BB drop = bb height
(724/2) - 80 = 282mm or 11.1 inches

I measured 11-1/4 inches.  Close enough?  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, May 20, 2016 at 6:10:27 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> I'd ride it. Curious: what is the bb height of an Atlantis with 2" tires 
> on it?
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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-20 Thread Mark Reimer 
My 2.1 Thunder Burts do not fit in Zeppelin fenders. I'm running the tires
on Velocity Dyad rims. It's close, but no cigar. Even if it did work, I'd
have maybe a millimeter or two of clearance! Not enough for me.

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Matt B.  wrote:

> Sorry typo that should be (62.2 / 2) *+ (*2.54 x 2) - 8
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> On Friday, May 20, 2016 at 10:01:00 AM UTC-4, Matt B. wrote:
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>> I think the BB drop is 8 cm, so it oughta be in the neighborhood of (62.2
>> / 2) x (2.54 x 2) - 8 ~= 28.2 cm.
>>
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>> On Friday, May 20, 2016 at 9:10:27 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd ride it. Curious: what is the bb height of an Atlantis with 2" tires
>>> on it?
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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-20 Thread Matt B. 
Sorry typo that should be (62.2 / 2) *+ (*2.54 x 2) - 8


On Friday, May 20, 2016 at 10:01:00 AM UTC-4, Matt B. wrote:
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> I think the BB drop is 8 cm, so it oughta be in the neighborhood of (62.2 
> / 2) x (2.54 x 2) - 8 ~= 28.2 cm.
>
>
> On Friday, May 20, 2016 at 9:10:27 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I'd ride it. Curious: what is the bb height of an Atlantis with 2" tires 
>> on it?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-20 Thread Matt B. 
I think the BB drop is 8 cm, so it oughta be in the neighborhood of (62.2 / 
2) x (2.54 x 2) - 8 ~= 28.2 cm.


On Friday, May 20, 2016 at 9:10:27 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> I'd ride it. Curious: what is the bb height of an Atlantis with 2" tires 
> on it?
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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-20 Thread Patrick Moore 
I'd ride it. Curious: what is the bb height of an Atlantis with 2" tires on
it?

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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-20 Thread Jeffrey Marco 
Good to know! I've heard great things about Thunder Burt's. I've been 
contemplating getting a pair, but haven't pulled the trigger thinking they 
wouldn't fit under my fenders. Time to go tire shopping.

On Thursday, May 19, 2016 at 10:09:27 PM UTC-4, Keith Muller wrote:
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> 1.95 renegades and 2.1 thunder berts fit in VO zeplin fenders.  Those 
> tires actually measure out the same width mounted on the same rim.
>
> Keith
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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-19 Thread Keith Muller 
1.95 renegades and 2.1 thunder berts fit in VO zeplin fenders.  Those tires 
actually measure out the same width mounted on the same rim.

Keith

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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-19 Thread Keith Muller 
I put a set of 1.8" tires on my Atlantis. It didn't look right at all.  I'm a 
big fan of fat tires!

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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-19 Thread Hugh Smitham 
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Mark Reimer  wrote:

> Nice! I can't quite make it out - what tire/fender combo is that? I'd love
> some 2"ish tires and fenders on my 58cm atlantis. I'm sure I could fit 2.1
> thunder burts with fenders if I had 60mm fenders. But I only have 50's :(
>
> These bikes just look so right with chubby tires.
>

Don't they!

>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Keith Muller 
> wrote:
>
>> So I finally finished up my Atlantis!  Waiting on my Seatpost and leather
>> bar tape, but it is more than rideable now.  Managed to stuff some 1.95
>> tires with fenders.  Took some work, but everything spins smooth now.
>> Can't wait to put a few miles on it.  Now I'm on to an Appaloosa build.
>>
>> Keith
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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-19 Thread Keith Muller 
Tires are S-works Renegades 1.95, fenders are VO zeppelins.  The crank is a TA 
Carmina.

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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-19 Thread Ryan Fleming 
S-Works Renegade and looks like Gilles Berthoud fenders/mudflaps to 
me...interesting crank...is that a TA Carmina  crank? Looks nice

On Thursday, May 19, 2016 at 10:58:54 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Nice! I can't quite make it out - what tire/fender combo is that? I'd love 
> some 2"ish tires and fenders on my 58cm atlantis. I'm sure I could fit 2.1 
> thunder burts with fenders if I had 60mm fenders. But I only have 50's :(
>
> These bikes just look so right with chubby tires. 
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Keith Muller  > wrote:
>
>> So I finally finished up my Atlantis!  Waiting on my Seatpost and leather 
>> bar tape, but it is more than rideable now.  Managed to stuff some 1.95 
>> tires with fenders.  Took some work, but everything spins smooth now.  
>> Can't wait to put a few miles on it.  Now I'm on to an Appaloosa build.
>>
>> Keith
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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-19 Thread Mark Reimer 
Nice! I can't quite make it out - what tire/fender combo is that? I'd love
some 2"ish tires and fenders on my 58cm atlantis. I'm sure I could fit 2.1
thunder burts with fenders if I had 60mm fenders. But I only have 50's :(

These bikes just look so right with chubby tires.

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Keith Muller  wrote:

> So I finally finished up my Atlantis!  Waiting on my Seatpost and leather
> bar tape, but it is more than rideable now.  Managed to stuff some 1.95
> tires with fenders.  Took some work, but everything spins smooth now.
> Can't wait to put a few miles on it.  Now I'm on to an Appaloosa build.
>
> Keith
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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-10 Thread Hugh Smitham 
Drew,

Very nice build, I know just how sweet the Atlantis rides it defies the
notion that stout tubing rides dead. On the contrary it rides with nimble
spirit and loaded handles like sure footed with comfort.

I don't know whether I would say it's Riv's best offer because Riv offers
so many great rides. It does seem to have a secret sauce.

Enjoy the ride.


~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 6:22 AM, Will  wrote:

> It's a great bike: much like the English sport tourers of the 60s and 70s
> but finished with more thought. My Atlantis is upthread. It's heavier than
> my old Raleigh Competition but certainly not a slug.
>
> With an Atlantis you get great proven geometry with stout tubes. There's a
> significant place for that in the biking world. Stout tubes are not a
> deficiency, they are a choice. When you have them they support a wide use
> profile.
>
> It's not a racing bike, but it definitely is everything else: Good road
> rider, good off road rider...  I firmly believe it is Riv's best offer.
>
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 12:40:24 AM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>>
>> official entry now. still waiting on some long struts for the rack and
>> some fine tuning, but i took it for it's inaugural ride this afternoon. not
>> a dead feeling bike at all.
>>
>>
>> 
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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-10 Thread Will 
It's a great bike: much like the English sport tourers of the 60s and 70s 
but finished with more thought. My Atlantis is upthread. It's heavier than 
my old Raleigh Competition but certainly not a slug. 

With an Atlantis you get great proven geometry with stout tubes. There's a 
significant place for that in the biking world. Stout tubes are not a 
deficiency, they are a choice. When you have them they support a wide use 
profile. 

It's not a racing bike, but it definitely is everything else: Good road 
rider, good off road rider...  I firmly believe it is Riv's best offer. 

On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 12:40:24 AM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
> official entry now. still waiting on some long struts for the rack and 
> some fine tuning, but i took it for it's inaugural ride this afternoon. not 
> a dead feeling bike at all. 
>
>
> 
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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-10 Thread WETH 
Drew,
Nice work!  I'm sure the ride was great.
T
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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-09 Thread drew 


official entry now. still waiting on some long struts for the rack and some 
fine tuning, but i took it for it's inaugural ride this afternoon. not a 
dead feeling bike at all. 



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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-09 Thread Bill Lindsay 





It's right at 25lbs with the front rack and decaleur on it right now.  


56cm Single TT Canti Hillborne 

No name headset

Ritchey Logic 172.5mm cranks 42/29 rings

XT 747 SPD pedals

SRAM PC970 chain

Campy front der

XT M751 GS rear der

Riv/IRD 11-34 9sp cassette

Deore XT hubs 

Matrix ISO 3 front rim 32h

Matrix Aurora Asym rear rim

DT spokes 14/15 3x brass nipples

generic tubes

Barlow Pass Extralight tires

Crystal Fellow seat post

Flite saddle

Pearl 11 stem

Soba Noodle bars

105sc brakelevers

Shimano MC70 brakes

koolstop ceramic brakepads

Berthoud decaleur

Haulin Colin front rack






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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-09 Thread Bill Lindsay 
John

The wheels are some ceramic side-wall road rims with the "Matrix" label 
(Trek's componentry label).  They are skinny road rims, 32 hole, XT hubs. 
 I kind of want to retire them, partly because of the hassles associated 
with ceramic braking bits, but they have been freaking indestructable. 

I'll weigh it again and post a photo and complete build list on flickr.  

Bill

On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 7:07:06 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> 24# Hillborne!?  Now you've got me considering a 2x8 or even 1x8 
> drivetrain.  What wheels are you using?  Loved the description of your dirt 
> road custom.  That would be an awesome bike.  Upping the clearances for a 
> 2.0 tire would be great.  Rear tire clearance and the bottom bracket drop 
> have been my only reservations on my Summer Break Sam.  Truly love the bike 
> but have scraped a few pedals with the lower bottom bracket.  Would love 
> one of those 650b Hunqs Grant was hinting at in the Blug.  With that as an 
> N+1, I'd strip the Sam down considerably.
>
> Thanks for the response.
> John
>
> On Sunday, May 8, 2016 at 7:58:47 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> John
>>
>> The Hillborne and the Atlantis are still in my stable, and they are both 
>> terriffic.  Frequently, these days, I get the opportunity to get out for 
>> just a couple hours and I walk into the garage not knowing which bike I'm 
>> going to take.  The Hillborne and the FatLantis get selected pretty 
>> frequently.  The Atlantis is definitely more stout, and it's a heavier 
>> build.  With a 3x8 drivetrain, heavier rims, wider wirebead tires, and a 
>> Brooks saddle, the Atlantis is probably 28 pounds or so. The Hillborne 
>> hasn't worn Rock and Road tires in a while, and it's set up as a dirtable 
>> road bike with 700x38 Barlow Pass Extralight tires, and has a 2x9 
>> drivetrain.  It's a little under 24 pounds.  
>>
>> I have been contemplating my ultimate dirt road bike, and often come up 
>> with my list of attributes and find that I'm describing either the Atlantis 
>> or the Hillborne or both.  If I was to order a custom Rivendell today, it 
>> would have the bottom bracket shell and chainstays of an Atlantis.  I think 
>> that particular part of the Atlantis is bordering on a masterpiece.  
>> Unsquished round cross section tubing, in a generously stout diameter, that 
>> wraps around a 29x2.0 tire, allows room for a triple crankset, with correct 
>> chainline *AND* a respectably narrow Q-factor is not easy, and Grant 
>> nailed it.  Cut and paste that into my custom!  It would have the same 
>> seatstay setup as an Atlantis, but would have Legolas dropouts and seatstay 
>> tubing.  The fork would have the Atlantis crown with Legolas fork blades.  
>> The sloping top tube and HTA would match the Hillborne, but again the 
>> maintubes (TT, DT and ST) would be the lightest tubing Grant would allow me 
>> to spec, presumably like a Legolas.  It would be stripped bare of 
>> braze-ons, save fenders and two bottle cages.  The cantilever posts would 
>> be set up perfectly for 25-26mm wide rims.  If I had this done and sensible 
>> build, I could maybe end up with a 22 pound dirt road bike.  Since I have 
>> the Hillborne and the Atlantis, I don't feel any particular need to move on 
>> that custom idea.  Maybe if I had to downsize my current "N" I could 
>> replace two bikes with one, but I don't feel any need or compulsion to do 
>> that today.  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 7:46:54 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:
>>>
>>> Bill, 
>>>
>>> How does the Fat-lantis differ from the Hunqa-Hillborne you built up in 
>>> 2014.  
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72157626464189260 
>>>  That build was the inspiration for my Summer Break Sam.  
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/19238298132/in/dateposted-public/
>>>  
>>>  Just curious what differences you noticed.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 1:38:41 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind 
 of demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's 
 not good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 
 29x2.0" 
 knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on 
 them.  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the 
 Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a 
 nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do 
 it.  It should be fun for some summer trail riding.  

 FAT-Lantis2 

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

>>>

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2016-05-09 Thread Surlyprof 
24# Hillborne!?  Now you've got me considering a 2x8 or even 1x8 
drivetrain.  What wheels are you using?  Loved the description of your dirt 
road custom.  That would be an awesome bike.  Upping the clearances for a 
2.0 tire would be great.  Rear tire clearance and the bottom bracket drop 
have been my only reservations on my Summer Break Sam.  Truly love the bike 
but have scraped a few pedals with the lower bottom bracket.  Would love 
one of those 650b Hunqs Grant was hinting at in the Blug.  With that as an 
N+1, I'd strip the Sam down considerably.

Thanks for the response.
John

On Sunday, May 8, 2016 at 7:58:47 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> John
>
> The Hillborne and the Atlantis are still in my stable, and they are both 
> terriffic.  Frequently, these days, I get the opportunity to get out for 
> just a couple hours and I walk into the garage not knowing which bike I'm 
> going to take.  The Hillborne and the FatLantis get selected pretty 
> frequently.  The Atlantis is definitely more stout, and it's a heavier 
> build.  With a 3x8 drivetrain, heavier rims, wider wirebead tires, and a 
> Brooks saddle, the Atlantis is probably 28 pounds or so. The Hillborne 
> hasn't worn Rock and Road tires in a while, and it's set up as a dirtable 
> road bike with 700x38 Barlow Pass Extralight tires, and has a 2x9 
> drivetrain.  It's a little under 24 pounds.  
>
> I have been contemplating my ultimate dirt road bike, and often come up 
> with my list of attributes and find that I'm describing either the Atlantis 
> or the Hillborne or both.  If I was to order a custom Rivendell today, it 
> would have the bottom bracket shell and chainstays of an Atlantis.  I think 
> that particular part of the Atlantis is bordering on a masterpiece.  
> Unsquished round cross section tubing, in a generously stout diameter, that 
> wraps around a 29x2.0 tire, allows room for a triple crankset, with correct 
> chainline *AND* a respectably narrow Q-factor is not easy, and Grant 
> nailed it.  Cut and paste that into my custom!  It would have the same 
> seatstay setup as an Atlantis, but would have Legolas dropouts and seatstay 
> tubing.  The fork would have the Atlantis crown with Legolas fork blades.  
> The sloping top tube and HTA would match the Hillborne, but again the 
> maintubes (TT, DT and ST) would be the lightest tubing Grant would allow me 
> to spec, presumably like a Legolas.  It would be stripped bare of 
> braze-ons, save fenders and two bottle cages.  The cantilever posts would 
> be set up perfectly for 25-26mm wide rims.  If I had this done and sensible 
> build, I could maybe end up with a 22 pound dirt road bike.  Since I have 
> the Hillborne and the Atlantis, I don't feel any particular need to move on 
> that custom idea.  Maybe if I had to downsize my current "N" I could 
> replace two bikes with one, but I don't feel any need or compulsion to do 
> that today.  
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 7:46:54 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:
>>
>> Bill, 
>>
>> How does the Fat-lantis differ from the Hunqa-Hillborne you built up in 
>> 2014.  
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72157626464189260 
>>  That build was the inspiration for my Summer Break Sam.  
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/19238298132/in/dateposted-public/
>>  
>>  Just curious what differences you noticed.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 1:38:41 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of 
>>> demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's not 
>>> good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0" 
>>> knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on 
>>> them.  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the 
>>> Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a 
>>> nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do 
>>> it.  It should be fun for some summer trail riding.  
>>>
>>> FAT-Lantis2 
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-08 Thread Bill Lindsay 
John

The Hillborne and the Atlantis are still in my stable, and they are both 
terriffic.  Frequently, these days, I get the opportunity to get out for 
just a couple hours and I walk into the garage not knowing which bike I'm 
going to take.  The Hillborne and the FatLantis get selected pretty 
frequently.  The Atlantis is definitely more stout, and it's a heavier 
build.  With a 3x8 drivetrain, heavier rims, wider wirebead tires, and a 
Brooks saddle, the Atlantis is probably 28 pounds or so. The Hillborne 
hasn't worn Rock and Road tires in a while, and it's set up as a dirtable 
road bike with 700x38 Barlow Pass Extralight tires, and has a 2x9 
drivetrain.  It's a little under 24 pounds.  

I have been contemplating my ultimate dirt road bike, and often come up 
with my list of attributes and find that I'm describing either the Atlantis 
or the Hillborne or both.  If I was to order a custom Rivendell today, it 
would have the bottom bracket shell and chainstays of an Atlantis.  I think 
that particular part of the Atlantis is bordering on a masterpiece.  
Unsquished round cross section tubing, in a generously stout diameter, that 
wraps around a 29x2.0 tire, allows room for a triple crankset, with correct 
chainline *AND* a respectably narrow Q-factor is not easy, and Grant nailed 
it.  Cut and paste that into my custom!  It would have the same seatstay 
setup as an Atlantis, but would have Legolas dropouts and seatstay tubing.  
The fork would have the Atlantis crown with Legolas fork blades.  The 
sloping top tube and HTA would match the Hillborne, but again the maintubes 
(TT, DT and ST) would be the lightest tubing Grant would allow me to spec, 
presumably like a Legolas.  It would be stripped bare of braze-ons, save 
fenders and two bottle cages.  The cantilever posts would be set up 
perfectly for 25-26mm wide rims.  If I had this done and sensible build, I 
could maybe end up with a 22 pound dirt road bike.  Since I have the 
Hillborne and the Atlantis, I don't feel any particular need to move on 
that custom idea.  Maybe if I had to downsize my current "N" I could 
replace two bikes with one, but I don't feel any need or compulsion to do 
that today.  

Bill



On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 7:46:54 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> Bill, 
>
> How does the Fat-lantis differ from the Hunqa-Hillborne you built up in 
> 2014.  https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72157626464189260 
>  That build was the inspiration for my Summer Break Sam.  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/19238298132/in/dateposted-public/ 
>  Just curious what differences you noticed.
>
> John
>
> On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 1:38:41 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of 
>> demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's not 
>> good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0" 
>> knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on 
>> them.  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the 
>> Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a 
>> nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do 
>> it.  It should be fun for some summer trail riding.  
>>
>> FAT-Lantis2 
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-07 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch 
I am really starting to regret the decision to sell off my fAtlantis. GREAT 
looking build sir.

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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-07 Thread Surlyprof 
Bill, 

How does the Fat-lantis differ from the Hunqa-Hillborne you built up in 
2014.  https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72157626464189260 
 That build was the inspiration for my Summer Break Sam. 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/19238298132/in/dateposted-public/ 
 Just curious what differences you noticed.

John

On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 1:38:41 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of 
> demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's not 
> good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0" 
> knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on 
> them.  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the 
> Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a 
> nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do 
> it.  It should be fun for some summer trail riding.  
>
> FAT-Lantis2 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-06 Thread WETH 
Looking good!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-06 Thread Mark Reimer 
Approved!!

> On May 6, 2016, at 6:30 PM, drew  wrote:
> 
> i'm preparing my application to the club now
> 
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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-06 Thread drew 


i'm preparing my application to the club now





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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-06 Thread Bill 
Is a drop bar Fatlantis the original Gravel Grinder? Give credit where credit 
is due.

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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-06 Thread Ryan Fleming 
love that green...what a good-looking bike

On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 11:01:38 PM UTC-5, gordo wrote:
>
> Thanks to Mark and Bill for the inspiration.  Here's a photo of my 
> recently acquired Atlantis with 2.1 Thunder Burts.  Rides great with the 
> exception of the lackluster Shimano brakes (these will be swapped out for a 
> set of Pauls during the next rainy day).
>
> Atlantis in GG Park 
> 
>
> Happy riding,
>
> Eric
>
> On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 1:38:41 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of 
>> demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's not 
>> good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0" 
>> knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on 
>> them.  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the 
>> Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a 
>> nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do 
>> it.  It should be fun for some summer trail riding.  
>>
>> FAT-Lantis2 
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>

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RE: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-06 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner) 
Wow!  That's perfect…

From: [email protected] 
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Subject: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

Thanks to Mark and Bill for the inspiration.  Here's a photo of my recently 
acquired Atlantis with 2.1 Thunder Burts.  Rides great with the exception of 
the lackluster Shimano brakes (these will be swapped out for a set of Pauls 
during the next rainy day).

Atlantis in GG 
Park<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QNM_a5Y_zqc/VywLt8FafmI/GFk/viBWsyxkY_82Wcwloy5dReCZYyDiQddrQCLcB/s1600/IMG_0376.JPG>

Happy riding,

Eric

On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 1:38:41 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of 
demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's not good 
enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0" knobbies.  
Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on them.  They are 
hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the Atlantis is looking 
stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a nice steel rim-brake 
monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do it.  It should be fun for 
some summer trail riding.

FAT-Lantis2<https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/26102304722/>

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-06 Thread Esteban 
Trail boss.

On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 9:01:38 PM UTC-7, gordo wrote:
>
> Thanks to Mark and Bill for the inspiration.  Here's a photo of my 
> recently acquired Atlantis with 2.1 Thunder Burts.  Rides great with the 
> exception of the lackluster Shimano brakes (these will be swapped out for a 
> set of Pauls during the next rainy day).
>
> Atlantis in GG Park 
> 
>
> Happy riding,
>
> Eric
>
> On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 1:38:41 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of 
>> demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's not 
>> good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0" 
>> knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on 
>> them.  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the 
>> Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a 
>> nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do 
>> it.  It should be fun for some summer trail riding.  
>>
>> FAT-Lantis2 
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-05 Thread Bill Lindsay 
DY-NO-MITE!

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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-05 Thread Mark Reimer 
Unnghhh!!! So hot!! That green is gorgeous. And I LOVE road drops with fatties. 

> On May 5, 2016, at 10:15 PM, gordo  wrote:
> 
> Thanks to Mark and Bill for the inspiration.  Here's a photo of my recently 
> acquired Atlantis with 2.1 Thunder Burts.  Rides great with the exception of 
> the lackluster Shimano brakes (these will be swapped out for a set of Pauls 
> during the next rainy day).
> 
> Atlantis in GG Park
> 
> Happy riding,
> 
> Eric
> 
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 1:38:41 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>> Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of 
>> demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's not 
>> good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0" 
>> knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on them. 
>>  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the Atlantis 
>> is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a nice steel 
>> rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do it.  It 
>> should be fun for some summer trail riding.  
>> 
>> FAT-Lantis2
>> 
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-05-05 Thread gordo 
Thanks to Mark and Bill for the inspiration.  Here's a photo of my recently 
acquired Atlantis with 2.1 Thunder Burts.  Rides great with the exception 
of the lackluster Shimano brakes (these will be swapped out for a set of 
Pauls during the next rainy day).

Atlantis in GG Park 


Happy riding,

Eric

On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 1:38:41 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of 
> demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's not 
> good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0" 
> knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on 
> them.  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the 
> Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a 
> nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do 
> it.  It should be fun for some summer trail riding.  
>
> FAT-Lantis2 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-04-02 Thread dstein 
Nice! I'm about to do the same with my Hunqapillar (take off the fenders 
and racks, maybe replace the triple up front with a 1 x drivetrain, or sell 
it which is what I should do - but you're convincing me a demotion might be 
ok after all).

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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-04-02 Thread Bill Lindsay 
I lined up the valve stems with the T in WTB 😀

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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-04-02 Thread Hugh Smitham 
Does say "WTB" too so you get a pass ;^)

~Hugh

On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 1:38:41 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of 
> demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's not 
> good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0" 
> knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on 
> them.  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the 
> Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a 
> nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do 
> it.  It should be fun for some summer trail riding.  
>
> FAT-Lantis2 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-04-02 Thread Ron Mc 
all great-looking bikes

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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-04-02 Thread Mark Reimer 
Welcome to the club!! I can't wait for the streets and trails to dry out so 
I can ditch the fenders and put the fat tires back on

On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 4:22:57 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:
>
> Nicely done, Bill. I like the colour details too.
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 4:38:41 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of 
>> demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's not 
>> good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0" 
>> knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on 
>> them.  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the 
>> Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a 
>> nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do 
>> it.  It should be fun for some summer trail riding.  
>>
>> FAT-Lantis2 
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-04-02 Thread Kieran J 
Nicely done, Bill. I like the colour details too.

KJ


On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 4:38:41 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of 
> demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's not 
> good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0" 
> knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on 
> them.  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the 
> Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a 
> nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do 
> it.  It should be fun for some summer trail riding.  
>
> FAT-Lantis2 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: I'm in on the Fat-Lantis club

2016-04-02 Thread Will 



This is how my Atlantis looked before I civilized it with p65s and Tubus 
racks. It was not heavy, not dead, and NOT SLOW.



On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 3:38:41 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Since I'm using my Appaloosa as my camping bike, my Atlantis got kind of 
> demoted to the humiliating state of "really heavy road bike".  That's not 
> good enough, so I pulled her fenders, and re-shod her with some 29x2.0" 
> knobbies.  Please don't hate me that the sidewalls say "Cannondale" on 
> them.  They are hand-me-downs from my Mountain Bike Racing Team.  Now the 
> Atlantis is looking stripped down, bad-ass, and butch.  If you wanted a 
> nice steel rim-brake monstercross bike, this would not be a bad way to do 
> it.  It should be fun for some summer trail riding.  
>
> FAT-Lantis2 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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