[RBW] Re: Jack Brown Sale

2013-01-11 Thread Mike
Joe, just go for it and give them a try. I'm sure you'll like them. You'll 
probably wonder why you waited so long.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Jack Brown Sale

2013-01-11 Thread Joe K
Should not be a problem because they are canti's.

Joe K

On Jan 11, 2:37 pm, pb  wrote:
> What brakes are you running?  If you're using short-reach sidepulls, the
> 33's will probably hit the brakes.
>
> ~pb
>
>
>
> On Friday, January 11, 2013 10:35:48 AM UTC-8, Joe K wrote:
> > Can anyone comment on whether Jack Browns would be a good idea on my
> > custom Riv?
>
> > When I made the frame order, one question asked what's the largest
> > tire that I'd use.  I wrote that I'd never be riding anything wider
> > than 28's.  That was my thinking at the time, so I figure the frame
> > was designed around that.  Now, I do believe there's enough room for
> > the 33's, but they would raise the BB a little.  I'm currently using
> > Rolly-Polys.  The rims are Open Pros, and pb above says they'll work.
> > So the question is not whether they'll fit but whether they'd change
> > the ride quality.
>
> > Joe
>
> > On Jan 11, 1:07 pm, Mike  wrote:
> > > I've used Blues and Greens with absolutely no issues getting them on and
> > > off. I wouldn't get the Blues again, while offering good flat
> > protection,
> > > they just seemed sluggish. I'd just ride Paselas over the Blues. But the
> > > Greens are a really nice tire and while they're more flat-prone, they're
> > > still great.
>
> > > --mike

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[RBW] Re: Jack Brown Sale

2013-01-11 Thread pb
What brakes are you running?  If you're using short-reach sidepulls, the 
33's will probably hit the brakes.
 
~pb

On Friday, January 11, 2013 10:35:48 AM UTC-8, Joe K wrote:

> Can anyone comment on whether Jack Browns would be a good idea on my 
> custom Riv? 
>
> When I made the frame order, one question asked what's the largest 
> tire that I'd use.  I wrote that I'd never be riding anything wider 
> than 28's.  That was my thinking at the time, so I figure the frame 
> was designed around that.  Now, I do believe there's enough room for 
> the 33's, but they would raise the BB a little.  I'm currently using 
> Rolly-Polys.  The rims are Open Pros, and pb above says they'll work. 
> So the question is not whether they'll fit but whether they'd change 
> the ride quality. 
>
> Joe 
>
> On Jan 11, 1:07 pm, Mike  wrote: 
> > I've used Blues and Greens with absolutely no issues getting them on and 
> > off. I wouldn't get the Blues again, while offering good flat 
> protection, 
> > they just seemed sluggish. I'd just ride Paselas over the Blues. But the 
> > Greens are a really nice tire and while they're more flat-prone, they're 
> > still great. 
> > 
> > --mike 
>

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[RBW] Re: Jack Brown Sale

2013-01-11 Thread William
I think it would be a great idea for you to try out the Jack Browns or 
maybe even the Grand Bois offering in 32mm.  Clearance around the brakes 
and through the chainstays are the critical places to check if they will 
fit.  In my opinion, you should not worry in the slightest about raising 
the BB height 4 or 5 mm.  

On Friday, January 11, 2013 10:35:48 AM UTC-8, Joe K wrote:
>
> Can anyone comment on whether Jack Browns would be a good idea on my 
> custom Riv? 
>
> When I made the frame order, one question asked what's the largest 
> tire that I'd use.  I wrote that I'd never be riding anything wider 
> than 28's.  That was my thinking at the time, so I figure the frame 
> was designed around that.  Now, I do believe there's enough room for 
> the 33's, but they would raise the BB a little.  I'm currently using 
> Rolly-Polys.  The rims are Open Pros, and pb above says they'll work. 
> So the question is not whether they'll fit but whether they'd change 
> the ride quality. 
>
> Joe 
>
> On Jan 11, 1:07 pm, Mike  wrote: 
> > I've used Blues and Greens with absolutely no issues getting them on and 
> > off. I wouldn't get the Blues again, while offering good flat 
> protection, 
> > they just seemed sluggish. I'd just ride Paselas over the Blues. But the 
> > Greens are a really nice tire and while they're more flat-prone, they're 
> > still great. 
> > 
> > --mike 
>

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[RBW] Re: Jack Brown Sale

2013-01-11 Thread Joe K
Can anyone comment on whether Jack Browns would be a good idea on my
custom Riv?

When I made the frame order, one question asked what's the largest
tire that I'd use.  I wrote that I'd never be riding anything wider
than 28's.  That was my thinking at the time, so I figure the frame
was designed around that.  Now, I do believe there's enough room for
the 33's, but they would raise the BB a little.  I'm currently using
Rolly-Polys.  The rims are Open Pros, and pb above says they'll work.
So the question is not whether they'll fit but whether they'd change
the ride quality.

Joe

On Jan 11, 1:07 pm, Mike  wrote:
> I've used Blues and Greens with absolutely no issues getting them on and
> off. I wouldn't get the Blues again, while offering good flat protection,
> they just seemed sluggish. I'd just ride Paselas over the Blues. But the
> Greens are a really nice tire and while they're more flat-prone, they're
> still great.
>
> --mike

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[RBW] Re: Jack Brown Sale

2013-01-11 Thread Mike
I've used Blues and Greens with absolutely no issues getting them on and 
off. I wouldn't get the Blues again, while offering good flat protection, 
they just seemed sluggish. I'd just ride Paselas over the Blues. But the 
Greens are a really nice tire and while they're more flat-prone, they're 
still great.

--mike 

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[RBW] Re: Jack Brown Sale

2013-01-11 Thread pb
George, my two pairs, one pair on Mavic Open Pro wheels, and one on 
Velocity, have both been easy on and off.  No drama.  I use one tire lever, 
easily zippered around the wheel, to get them off.  Knock wood, I don't 
think you have any reason to be concerned, and yeah, I have also 
experienced very tight tires.
 
~pb
 
On Friday, January 11, 2013 9:26:26 AM UTC-8, George Schick wrote:

> Thanks for all the replies about the Jack Browns.  My second question 
> would be, since these are folders, how difficult are they to get on and 
> off?  My experiences with folders over the years have not necessarily been 
> pleasant.
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:15:39 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote:
>>
>> Upon close examination of the tread wear and condition of the sidewalls 
>> on my current tires, it's plain that it's time for a new pair.  The Jack 
>> Brown discount that Riv is offering on their Internet garage sale e-mail 
>> flyer looks intriguing.  So I surfing into their web site to look 'em over. 
>>  One thing that isn't mentioned anyplace (that I could find, anyway) was 
>> whether these tires have wire beads or are folders.  Anyone know?
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Jack Brown Sale

2013-01-11 Thread William
That depends on your rim and somewhat on you.  For me, I've run my pair of 
Jack Brown greens on four different wheelsets in my stable (I know, I 
know).  I've never had to use a tire lever to get them on or off.  Bare 
hands.   

On Friday, January 11, 2013 9:26:26 AM UTC-8, George Schick wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the replies about the Jack Browns.  My second question 
> would be, since these are folders, how difficult are they to get on and 
> off?  My experiences with folders over the years have not necessarily been 
> pleasant.
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:15:39 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote:
>>
>> Upon close examination of the tread wear and condition of the sidewalls 
>> on my current tires, it's plain that it's time for a new pair.  The Jack 
>> Brown discount that Riv is offering on their Internet garage sale e-mail 
>> flyer looks intriguing.  So I surfing into their web site to look 'em over. 
>>  One thing that isn't mentioned anyplace (that I could find, anyway) was 
>> whether these tires have wire beads or are folders.  Anyone know?
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Jack Brown Sale

2013-01-11 Thread George Schick
Thanks for all the replies about the Jack Browns.  My second question would 
be, since these are folders, how difficult are they to get on and off?  My 
experiences with folders over the years have not necessarily been pleasant.


On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:15:39 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote:
>
> Upon close examination of the tread wear and condition of the sidewalls on 
> my current tires, it's plain that it's time for a new pair.  The Jack Brown 
> discount that Riv is offering on their Internet garage sale e-mail flyer 
> looks intriguing.  So I surfing into their web site to look 'em over.  One 
> thing that isn't mentioned anyplace (that I could find, anyway) was whether 
> these tires have wire beads or are folders.  Anyone know?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Jack Brown Sale

2013-01-09 Thread Mike
I'm sure they're folders.

The Greens are great tires. Here in Portland it seems like lots of
folks use cyclocross bikes as winter training bikes. I'm surprised
that I don't see more people using them. I think a lot of folks just
don't know they exist.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Jack Brown Sale

2013-01-09 Thread William
but that was last year.  I would assume they still are folders, but a call 
wouldn't hurt.  

On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:23:41 PM UTC-8, William wrote:
>
> The Jack Browns I bought from Riv were folders.  
>
> On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:15:39 PM UTC-8, George Schick wrote:
>>
>> Upon close examination of the tread wear and condition of the sidewalls 
>> on my current tires, it's plain that it's time for a new pair.  The Jack 
>> Brown discount that Riv is offering on their Internet garage sale e-mail 
>> flyer looks intriguing.  So I surfing into their web site to look 'em over. 
>>  One thing that isn't mentioned anyplace (that I could find, anyway) was 
>> whether these tires have wire beads or are folders.  Anyone know?
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Jack Brown Sale

2013-01-09 Thread William
The Jack Browns I bought from Riv were folders.  

On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:15:39 PM UTC-8, George Schick wrote:
>
> Upon close examination of the tread wear and condition of the sidewalls on 
> my current tires, it's plain that it's time for a new pair.  The Jack Brown 
> discount that Riv is offering on their Internet garage sale e-mail flyer 
> looks intriguing.  So I surfing into their web site to look 'em over.  One 
> thing that isn't mentioned anyplace (that I could find, anyway) was whether 
> these tires have wire beads or are folders.  Anyone know?
>
>

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