[RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-10-02 Thread Earl Grey
Hear, hear, that is why my JB Greens have been replaced with 42mm
Kenda Kwickroller E-Z Rides. Horrific name, but a good tire that
doesn't just allow dirt road exploration, but single track
exploration!

Gernot


On Sep 30, 9:36 pm, Michael_S  wrote:
> The beauty of the JB's is that if you spot some dirt road going somewhere
> new, you can  take a chance and see where it goes. To me, that's the best
> thing about riding fat road tires. Last night I was riding in a new area
> here in northern LA and ended up taking three different dirt roads, that all
> ended too quickly, and even some singletrack but it was still worth it just
> to be out on the bike exploring
>
> ~mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-10-01 Thread James Warren

More organized Riv rides in the future then!


On Sep 30, 2011, at 7:06 AM, jimD wrote:

> 
> I read the Sonoma County is considering letting some roads 'revert' to 
> gravel. 
> 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-09-30 Thread Stephen S
No worries. It's been a while since I lived there and they might be better 
now. Maybe I just remember the horrible driving and the roads on I-25 south 
of Albuquerque... 

I do know I have never gotten as many goat heads as when I road Chase the 
Balloons a few years ago down near the bosque. =) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-09-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Y'all have much higher standards than I; Rio Rancho's roads in
particular seem to me to be very good and the Albuquerque area in
general is better than say LA or, from what I remember, WDC. Which may
explain my evaluation

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Stephen S  wrote:
> Um I am going to have to agree with Ryan here.
>
> Rio Rancho doesn't have the best roads. Socorro isn't great, I'd hate to
> ride in Santa Fe. Granted I hate being in Santa Fe...
>
> I mean the roads are passable but not great.
>
> Stephen
>
> On Friday, September 30, 2011 6:46:06 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> You live on the eastside; I live on the westside*. We've got good roads.
>>
>> Seriously, the roads I ride here in town, all between Tramway and
>> 98th, are quite good. I have no problem with the 23s on my gofast.
>> What bad ones do you mean?
>>
>> *The right or wrong side of the Rio Grande, for you non-albuquerquians.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Ryan Watson  wrote:
>> >
>> > On Sep 29, 2011, at 16:46, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>> >
>> >> We are fortunate here in NM; our roads are quite good with regular
>> >> upkeep and improvements like bike lanes.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure what alternate universe Patrick rides in, but most of the
>> > NM roads I ride are in pretty rough shape.
>> > I ride those fat 650Bs for a reason!
>> >
>> > Cheers,
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[RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-09-30 Thread Ryan J
I just recently picked up an older italian bike that has 25s on it after 
riding the last two years on 32s and 38s, it takes some getting used to but 
the bike isn't totally uncomfortable.  I prefer the wider tires though, 
which is the bikes I will be getting in the future.  The 25s are just 
harsher and I had to physically avoid road conditions that I wouldn't when 
riding the Sam Hillborne.  The road conditions where I ride are fine for the 
most part, low traffic and relatively smooth, but every so often I take a 
road that is better served with fatter tires, especially some of the roads 
through the forest and game preserves.  I know that the future of my biking 
is better served with fatter tires...at least 32s.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-09-30 Thread Stephen S
Um I am going to have to agree with Ryan here. 

Rio Rancho doesn't have the best roads. Socorro isn't great, I'd hate to 
ride in Santa Fe. Granted I hate being in Santa Fe...

I mean the roads are passable but not great. 

Stephen

On Friday, September 30, 2011 6:46:06 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> You live on the eastside; I live on the westside*. We've got good roads.
>
> Seriously, the roads I ride here in town, all between Tramway and
> 98th, are quite good. I have no problem with the 23s on my gofast.
> What bad ones do you mean?
>
> *The right or wrong side of the Rio Grande, for you non-albuquerquians.
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Ryan Watson  wrote:
> >
> > On Sep 29, 2011, at 16:46, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> >
> >> We are fortunate here in NM; our roads are quite good with regular
> >> upkeep and improvements like bike lanes.
> >
> > I'm not sure what alternate universe Patrick rides in, but most of the NM 
> roads I ride are in pretty rough shape.
> > I ride those fat 650Bs for a reason!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ryan
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-09-30 Thread William
I just did a solo 200k yesterday in Marin (to keep my R12 going), and 
treated myself to the gravel path through Samual P Taylor Park instead of 
the uber narrow Sir Francis Drake Blvd through that section.  I was running 
650x38B Somas and it was a blast, even 110 miles into a long day.  One of my 
resolutions for 2012 is going to be to explore more gravel roads.  

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[RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-09-30 Thread Michael_S
The beauty of the JB's is that if you spot some dirt road going somewhere 
new, you can  take a chance and see where it goes. To me, that's the best 
thing about riding fat road tires. Last night I was riding in a new area 
here in northern LA and ended up taking three different dirt roads, that all 
ended too quickly, and even some singletrack but it was still worth it just 
to be out on the bike exploring
 
~mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-09-30 Thread jimD

Here in Northern Calif. the many secondary/tertiary roads that make for great 
bicycle routes are poorly maintained. Until the Tour of Calif. started using 
Tunitas Creek Road for one of the stages, the surface reminded me of a bombing 
range. Now many of the craters have been filled. I read the Sonoma County is 
considering letting some roads 'revert' to gravel. 

Funds to maintain roads here are diminishing and that seems unlikely to improve 
any time soon. 

I'm stocking up on fat/er tires. They work great for the 'roads of the future'.

-JimD


On Sep 29, 2011, at 6:19 PM, Ryan Watson wrote:

> 
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 16:46, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> 
>> We are fortunate here in NM; our roads are quite good with regular
>> upkeep and improvements like bike lanes.
> 
> I'm not sure what alternate universe Patrick rides in, but most of the NM 
> roads I ride are in pretty rough shape. 
> I ride those fat 650Bs for a reason!
> 
> Cheers,
> Ryan
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-09-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
You live on the eastside; I live on the westside*. We've got good roads.

Seriously, the roads I ride here in town, all between Tramway and
98th, are quite good. I have no problem with the 23s on my gofast.
What bad ones do you mean?

*The right or wrong side of the Rio Grande, for you non-albuquerquians.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Ryan Watson  wrote:
>
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 16:46, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
>> We are fortunate here in NM; our roads are quite good with regular
>> upkeep and improvements like bike lanes.
>
> I'm not sure what alternate universe Patrick rides in, but most of the NM 
> roads I ride are in pretty rough shape.
> I ride those fat 650Bs for a reason!
>
> Cheers,
> Ryan
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-09-29 Thread Ryan Watson

On Sep 29, 2011, at 16:46, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> We are fortunate here in NM; our roads are quite good with regular
> upkeep and improvements like bike lanes.

I'm not sure what alternate universe Patrick rides in, but most of the NM roads 
I ride are in pretty rough shape. 
I ride those fat 650Bs for a reason!

Cheers,
Ryan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-09-29 Thread Tim McNamara
Heh... and even with my grousing about the roads, I still ride 700 x 25s at 115 
PSI on two of my bikes and 26 x 1.25 at 100 PSI on my A/R...

On Sep 29, 2011, at 7:30 PM, EricP wrote:

> Like Jim, I'm in the Twin Cities, and have found that as I age, even
> my normal skinny tire (aka 37) is getting a touch too narrow.  Am glad
> my Sam Hillborne has 40's, but admit to riding my Surly LHT with
> 26x2.0 wide tires more frequently these days.
> 
> At this point, am not even sure I could ride a super skinny tire like
> a JB.  Too much weight hand hand damage over the years to even really
> consider it.  Am realizing the next "road" bike I may need is a
> Pugsley.
> 
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
> 
> On Sep 29, 1:02 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
> wrote:
>> I was exploring the Minneapolis urban jungle last night on my Surly Troll
>> with 26x2.25 Marathon Extremes, and as I was rolling happily over some of
>> the rough roads Tim referred to, I couldn't help but think how useless "road
>> bikes" are in this landscape. Come to think of it, the term "road bike"
>> itself is becoming less useful. After all, I was riding a bike with
>> clearance for 2.8" tires on roads, and I liked it!
>> 
>> (PS: my skinny tire bike has Jack Browns on it)

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[RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-09-29 Thread Forrest
I like my Schwalbe 38's and 40's for in-town commuting, and for country 
adventure, but I've also ridden my JB Blues a fair amount on gravel, and 
that went okay. I mean, they seem like pretty capable tires for rough stuff, 
all things considered, and while more toward the "roadish" end of the 
spectrum, I have a hard time thinking of them as super-skinny. Of course 
it's all relative.  -- Forrest (Iowa City)


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[RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-09-29 Thread Jim Cloud
Many of the people living in Tucson would puke if I said the roads
were in good condition.  Actually the roads where they're adding bike
lanes are in good condition, especially around the county road areas.
The intercity Tucson roads are frequently, however, potholed and very
much in need of routine maintenance.  I don't, however, have any real
problems getting around town with 700x28C Panaracer Paselas (although
I've also mounted some 33.333 Rivendell Jack Brown Blue label tires on
my Paramount).

Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ

On Sep 29, 3:46 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> We are fortunate here in NM; our roads are quite good with regular
> upkeep and improvements like bike lanes.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> > I work/ride in Novato, CA. Here's the lovely thing they did here: They
> > repaved bumpy roads...with bumpy pavement. Briiliant, eh?
>
> > Joe Bernard
> > Fairfield, CA.
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[RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-09-29 Thread EricP
Like Jim, I'm in the Twin Cities, and have found that as I age, even
my normal skinny tire (aka 37) is getting a touch too narrow.  Am glad
my Sam Hillborne has 40's, but admit to riding my Surly LHT with
26x2.0 wide tires more frequently these days.

At this point, am not even sure I could ride a super skinny tire like
a JB.  Too much weight hand hand damage over the years to even really
consider it.  Am realizing the next "road" bike I may need is a
Pugsley.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Sep 29, 1:02 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
> I was exploring the Minneapolis urban jungle last night on my Surly Troll
> with 26x2.25 Marathon Extremes, and as I was rolling happily over some of
> the rough roads Tim referred to, I couldn't help but think how useless "road
> bikes" are in this landscape. Come to think of it, the term "road bike"
> itself is becoming less useful. After all, I was riding a bike with
> clearance for 2.8" tires on roads, and I liked it!
>
> (PS: my skinny tire bike has Jack Browns on it)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-09-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
We are fortunate here in NM; our roads are quite good with regular
upkeep and improvements like bike lanes.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> I work/ride in Novato, CA. Here's the lovely thing they did here: They
> repaved bumpy roads...with bumpy pavement. Briiliant, eh?
>
> Joe Bernard
> Fairfield, CA.
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[RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-09-29 Thread Joe Bernard
I work/ride in Novato, CA. Here's the lovely thing they did here: They 
repaved bumpy roads...*with bumpy pavement.* Briiliant, eh?
 
Joe Bernard
Fairfield, CA.

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[RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

2011-09-29 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I was exploring the Minneapolis urban jungle last night on my Surly Troll 
with 26x2.25 Marathon Extremes, and as I was rolling happily over some of 
the rough roads Tim referred to, I couldn't help but think how useless "road 
bikes" are in this landscape. Come to think of it, the term "road bike" 
itself is becoming less useful. After all, I was riding a bike with 
clearance for 2.8" tires on roads, and I liked it!

(PS: my skinny tire bike has Jack Browns on it)

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