[RBW] Re: Jack Browns or Schwalbe Marathon Supremes?
Funny you should mention the Gran Bois because I plan to make those my next tire purchase. I fully expect the Cypres to far exceed the Vittorias in performance. On Jul 7, 11:41 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 08:34 -0700, [email protected] wrote: > > Just a quick update. I finally saved up enough money to buy new > > tires (my priority has been funding a wheel from Rich Lesnik) and I > > went with the Vittoria Randonneur Hypers in 32mm. I have to say I am > > thrilled with the purchase!! The Vittorias are so much faster, > > cushier and they handle so much better than the Armadillos I've been > > riding. I know I will now ride more often and for longer periods of > > times. The tires really do make a difference! This has actually been > > a revelation for me and I plan to try other tires. > > I have no idea how good the Vittorias are in comparison to other good > 32mm tires, but I have to say, it's not hard to be faster, cushier and > better handling than Armadillos. They are about the worst tires in > every respect but one (i.e., flat resistance) ever made. > > A real comparison would be Vittoria Randonneur Hypers vs the Grand Bois > Cypres. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jack Browns or Schwalbe Marathon Supremes?
I've ridden JB Blues and Greens and 35mm Marathon Supremes. I'm not a fan of the Blues, they feel rather sluggish. The Greens are a great tire and I love the ride although they aren't super durable. For commuting or rambling, I'd say go with the Supremes. They wear well and ride nicely. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns or Schwalbe Marathon Supremes?
On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 08:34 -0700, [email protected] wrote: > Just a quick update. I finally saved up enough money to buy new > tires (my priority has been funding a wheel from Rich Lesnik) and I > went with the Vittoria Randonneur Hypers in 32mm. I have to say I am > thrilled with the purchase!! The Vittorias are so much faster, > cushier and they handle so much better than the Armadillos I've been > riding. I know I will now ride more often and for longer periods of > times. The tires really do make a difference! This has actually been > a revelation for me and I plan to try other tires. I have no idea how good the Vittorias are in comparison to other good 32mm tires, but I have to say, it's not hard to be faster, cushier and better handling than Armadillos. They are about the worst tires in every respect but one (i.e., flat resistance) ever made. A real comparison would be Vittoria Randonneur Hypers vs the Grand Bois Cypres. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jack Browns or Schwalbe Marathon Supremes?
Just a quick update. I finally saved up enough money to buy new tires (my priority has been funding a wheel from Rich Lesnik) and I went with the Vittoria Randonneur Hypers in 32mm. I have to say I am thrilled with the purchase!! The Vittorias are so much faster, cushier and they handle so much better than the Armadillos I've been riding. I know I will now ride more often and for longer periods of times. The tires really do make a difference! This has actually been a revelation for me and I plan to try other tires. Thanks for the heads up on these, Bill! On Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:13:54 PM UTC-6, Bill M. wrote: > Consider a third option as well, the Vittoria Randonneur Hyper. > Available in 32, 35 and 38 mm. My 32's measure 34 mm wide on Velocity > A23 rims, they should be a true 32 on a narrower rim. 365 gm > (measured), in between the JB blue and green, nice rolling, reasonably > flat-resistant, black sidewalls (won't rot in the sun like a skinwall) > with reflective stripes. They fit well, too. Every Vittoria I have > used has mounted straight and true, securely snug but not overly > tight, unlike some of the Panaracer-made tires I've had. They are > also a fair bit less expensive than the Supremes. I like them, and > there has been a fair bit of love for them from others on the iBOB > list. > > Bill > > On Dec 20, 10:33 am, Chris Lampe wrote: > > I'm working on retrofitting an old mid-90's hybrid bicycle and one of > > the changes I want to make is new tires. I'm trying to decide between > > the Jack Brown's and the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 35c. > > > > Has anyone ridden both and can comment on any significant > > differences? I'm guessing they are going to come out within 2 mm of > > each other in width. Will one be "cushier"? Will one be "firmer"? > > Will one seem quicker? > > > > I'm currently running Specialized Nimbus 700 x 38c tires and although > > they are more comfortable than smaller tires, there is a noticeable > > amount of increased road resistance, which I don't like. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7_YL78JLcSgJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jack Browns or Schwalbe Marathon Supremes?
I ride both tires. The JB are a little more chushy. The Supremes may take about 200 miles to get more plump, however I ride 32mm supremes so this could be different with the 35mm. I feel more no worry riding the supremes becuase they laugh at debrie on the road. I ride the supremes everyday on my 10 miles round trip commute and never had a flat even though I always ride over stuff. My choice is the supremes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JYAaVDB72CAJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jack Browns or Schwalbe Marathon Supremes?
Thanks for the responses everyone! I think I'm leaning toward the Marathons (was somewhat leaning that way to begin with) but I am also interested in the Duremes. I would have thought the Dureme would be better on dirt than the supreme since Grant describes the Supreme as a "fat slick". I'm also not committed to Schwalbe or Jack Browns and will give those Vittoria's a close look. That brand has come up a few times in researching tires and I know my LBS recommends the brand. On Dec 22, 11:48 am, IPATOM wrote: > I've ridden both JB blues and the MS 35c on my Hillborne. They're > both extraordinary tires that I think will work great for you. > There's no significant difference in road feel and you're correct in > your assumption about width if you're referring to the JB 331/3. I'd > give a slight nod to the MS 35 (more like a 33) or you might even try > the newer Dureme model because of the reflective sidewall. Most of my > riding is on pavement, not dirt but I suspect the MS tire might be > better on dirt due to the more pronounced tread pattern. You really > can't go wrong with either tire. > > On Dec 20, 10:33 am, Chris Lampe wrote: > > > > > I'm working on retrofitting an old mid-90's hybrid bicycle and one of > > the changes I want to make is new tires. I'm trying to decide between > > the Jack Brown's and the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 35c. > > > Has anyone ridden both and can comment on any significant > > differences? I'm guessing they are going to come out within 2 mm of > > each other in width. Will one be "cushier"? Will one be "firmer"? > > Will one seem quicker? > > > I'm currently running Specialized Nimbus 700 x 38c tires and although > > they are more comfortable than smaller tires, there is a noticeable > > amount of increased road resistance, which I don't like.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jack Browns or Schwalbe Marathon Supremes?
I'm using 32 Supremes on my Hillborne. I'm very happy with them as a tire that is both light and puncture resistant, but I'd hardly call them zippy. Never tried the Jack Browns, but I would guess that they a little feel nicer and maybe faster, with a little less flat resistance. Jay On Dec 20, 8:33 pm, Chris Lampe wrote: > I'm working on retrofitting an old mid-90's hybrid bicycle and one of > the changes I want to make is new tires. I'm trying to decide between > the Jack Brown's and the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 35c. > > Has anyone ridden both and can comment on any significant > differences? I'm guessing they are going to come out within 2 mm of > each other in width. Will one be "cushier"? Will one be "firmer"? > Will one seem quicker? > > I'm currently running Specialized Nimbus 700 x 38c tires and although > they are more comfortable than smaller tires, there is a noticeable > amount of increased road resistance, which I don't like. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jack Browns or Schwalbe Marathon Supremes?
I've ridden the JB Greens and the Marathon Supreme 32s. I'm always very pleased with the ride and the speed the Schwalbes over the JBs. I'm always a bit surprised the first time I put on the Marathon Supremes for winter commuting and just a bit disappointed when I put on the JBs in the spring. On Dec 22, 9:48 am, IPATOM wrote: > I've ridden both JB blues and the MS 35c on my Hillborne. They're > both extraordinary tires that I think will work great for you. > There's no significant difference in road feel and you're correct in > your assumption about width if you're referring to the JB 331/3. I'd > give a slight nod to the MS 35 (more like a 33) or you might even try > the newer Dureme model because of the reflective sidewall. Most of my > riding is on pavement, not dirt but I suspect the MS tire might be > better on dirt due to the more pronounced tread pattern. You really > can't go wrong with either tire. > > On Dec 20, 10:33 am, Chris Lampe wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm working on retrofitting an old mid-90's hybrid bicycle and one of > > the changes I want to make is new tires. I'm trying to decide between > > the Jack Brown's and the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 35c. > > > Has anyone ridden both and can comment on any significant > > differences? I'm guessing they are going to come out within 2 mm of > > each other in width. Will one be "cushier"? Will one be "firmer"? > > Will one seem quicker? > > > I'm currently running Specialized Nimbus 700 x 38c tires and although > > they are more comfortable than smaller tires, there is a noticeable > > amount of increased road resistance, which I don't like. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jack Browns or Schwalbe Marathon Supremes?
I've ridden both JB blues and the MS 35c on my Hillborne. They're both extraordinary tires that I think will work great for you. There's no significant difference in road feel and you're correct in your assumption about width if you're referring to the JB 331/3. I'd give a slight nod to the MS 35 (more like a 33) or you might even try the newer Dureme model because of the reflective sidewall. Most of my riding is on pavement, not dirt but I suspect the MS tire might be better on dirt due to the more pronounced tread pattern. You really can't go wrong with either tire. On Dec 20, 10:33 am, Chris Lampe wrote: > I'm working on retrofitting an old mid-90's hybrid bicycle and one of > the changes I want to make is new tires. I'm trying to decide between > the Jack Brown's and the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 35c. > > Has anyone ridden both and can comment on any significant > differences? I'm guessing they are going to come out within 2 mm of > each other in width. Will one be "cushier"? Will one be "firmer"? > Will one seem quicker? > > I'm currently running Specialized Nimbus 700 x 38c tires and although > they are more comfortable than smaller tires, there is a noticeable > amount of increased road resistance, which I don't like. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jack Browns or Schwalbe Marathon Supremes?
I ride the 70x40's MS and love itits actually about 37-38 mm wide so just perfect for me. So far no flats and its a speedy comfy tire. The 35 could only be lighter and presumably faster on smooth pavement. On Dec 20, 10:33 am, Chris Lampe wrote: > I'm working on retrofitting an old mid-90's hybrid bicycle and one of > the changes I want to make is new tires. I'm trying to decide between > the Jack Brown's and the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 35c. > > Has anyone ridden both and can comment on any significant > differences? I'm guessing they are going to come out within 2 mm of > each other in width. Will one be "cushier"? Will one be "firmer"? > Will one seem quicker? > > I'm currently running Specialized Nimbus 700 x 38c tires and although > they are more comfortable than smaller tires, there is a noticeable > amount of increased road resistance, which I don't like. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jack Browns or Schwalbe Marathon Supremes?
Consider a third option as well, the Vittoria Randonneur Hyper. Available in 32, 35 and 38 mm. My 32's measure 34 mm wide on Velocity A23 rims, they should be a true 32 on a narrower rim. 365 gm (measured), in between the JB blue and green, nice rolling, reasonably flat-resistant, black sidewalls (won't rot in the sun like a skinwall) with reflective stripes. They fit well, too. Every Vittoria I have used has mounted straight and true, securely snug but not overly tight, unlike some of the Panaracer-made tires I've had. They are also a fair bit less expensive than the Supremes. I like them, and there has been a fair bit of love for them from others on the iBOB list. Bill On Dec 20, 10:33 am, Chris Lampe wrote: > I'm working on retrofitting an old mid-90's hybrid bicycle and one of > the changes I want to make is new tires. I'm trying to decide between > the Jack Brown's and the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 35c. > > Has anyone ridden both and can comment on any significant > differences? I'm guessing they are going to come out within 2 mm of > each other in width. Will one be "cushier"? Will one be "firmer"? > Will one seem quicker? > > I'm currently running Specialized Nimbus 700 x 38c tires and although > they are more comfortable than smaller tires, there is a noticeable > amount of increased road resistance, which I don't like. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jack Browns or Schwalbe Marathon Supremes?
I wore out a set of JB Blues out on a '91 Bridgestone RB-T I use as my commuter. I then tried a set of Marathon Supremes, but in 32mm size. Wore those out. I'm back with the JBB's now. The Supremes were a nice tire, long lasting, but had more rolling resistance. They really rumble when you roll them across a smooth surface and my experience has been that translates into more resistance on pavement. I think I'll stay with the JBB's. Though I will check them more often for embedded debris than I did the Supremes. On Dec 21, 3:37 pm, Jim Mather wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Chris Lampe wrote: > > I'm working on retrofitting an old mid-90's hybrid bicycle and one of > > the changes I want to make is new tires. I'm trying to decide between > > the Jack Brown's and the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 35c. > > I prefer the MS to JB blue; I haven't tried JB green. The MS feels cushier > and quicker but I haven't timed myself on them. The JB was my favorite 33 > tire, though, until I tried the MS. I only got one flat on the JB's in many > miles, but I have yet to flat the MS. Also, the little bit of inverted > tread on the MS gave more bite off pavement than the JB's. Not a big > difference, and the JB is a great tire, but the MS has become my preferred > ride. > > jim m > wc ca > > -- > *“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of > the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the > corrupt.” C. Hitchens* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
