Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Garth]

   Ahahahah . . . . . some things are indeed better left unsaid . .  .  . 



On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 4:20:22 PM UTC-5, Daniel D. wrote:
>
> WRONG! I drew a picture in MSpaint to illustrate why you're wrong.  But 
> thought better about posting it.
>
> On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 3:15:00 PM UTC-8, Garth wrote:
>>
>> Crotchless would be a skirt. The "manly men" of Scotland wear them on 
>> occasion , and wannabe's.. 
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Daniel D.]

WRONG! I drew a picture in MSpaint to illustrate why you're wrong.  But 
thought better about posting it.

On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 3:15:00 PM UTC-8, Garth wrote:
>
> Crotchless would be a skirt. The "manly men" of Scotland wear them on 
> occasion , and wannabe's.. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Meade Anderson]

>
> A new first, but not for Grant, crotchless  shorts to go with the crotch 
> cut out on saddles...


meade 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Garth]

Crotchless would be a skirt. The "manly men" of Scotland wear them on occasion 
, and wannabe's.. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[sameness]

No kidding. Talk about leaving us hanging!

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 1:17:35 PM UTC-8, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> I hear the next batch are crotchlessDoes anyone know when these are 
> supposed to be ready?
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Eric Norris]

Can’t imagine how this email made it past my PG-rated filters ...

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
@CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)

> On Feb 20, 2017, at 1:17 PM, Brian Campbell  wrote:
> 
> I hear the next batch are crotchless.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Brian Campbell]

I hear the next batch are crotchlessDoes anyone know when these are 
supposed to be ready?

On Sunday, February 19, 2017 at 3:49:04 PM UTC-5, Clayton.sf wrote:
>
> I wish they went crazy with these. polka dots, fluorescent colors, 
> mismatched legs, and a rigid belt (replaced all mine) would make me pull 
> the trigger immediately.
>
> Clayton Scott
> SF, CA
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[drew]

I'll buy if they can match the gusset to my skin tone

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Clayton.sf]

I wish they went crazy with these. polka dots, fluorescent colors, mismatched 
legs, and a rigid belt (replaced all mine) would make me pull the trigger 
immediately.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Joe Bernard]

It's a small batch made by people in a country with labor laws. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Christopher Murray]

$70 for a pair of nylon shorts! I know they are great and own several pair of 
the previous gen but I'm experiencing a bit of sticker shock. I'd love to see a 
cost break down of materials, labor, design, shipping, etc. 

I know they are worth the money- please don't think I'm saying otherwise. And I 
am sure they are priced fairly. It just amazes me that the cost difference 
between MUSA and non-MUSA is so large.

Cheers!
Chris

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Patrick Moore]

My Yokozunas are spiral striped gray/black. Match that!

As for hoaxes: not quite hoaxes, unfortunately, but shurashell better than
satire: Trump as president (he *did* keep Hilary "it's my turn now" out of
the chair), and driverless cars. What happened to buses and streetcars? My
paternal grandparents were relatively well to do in the middle of the
Depression (he was CFO of Nehi), but owned 1 used car; my grandmother would
take the streetcar downtown to shop. On the other side, my mother's family,
rural squires -- landowners and judges and politicos -- never owned a car
until, after the Americans made grandpa provincial governor after WW 2
(family hid in jungle for 4 years to avoid his being made head of the
Japanese puppet govt) and gave him a used jeep. They -- family, servants --
walked or took the bus.

The ancients and the medievals knew that the world was round, btw. I
studied Ptolemy.

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 7:48 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Which is why I haven't had a black Brooks in almost 25 years. But maybe
> this will catch on--crotch colorways. You could match the color of your
> crotch gusset with your cable color...
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 4:49:36 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I have to laugh at the contrasting crotch furor. Tell y'all what: wear
>> khaki cutoffs in hot, sweaty weather on a black saddle. You'll have a
>> contrasting crotch. I always took it as a "badge of honor."
>>
>> Still, I'd not pay *money* for a startlingly contrasting crotch gusset.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 2:15 PM, BenG  wrote:
>>
>>> I love my contrasting crotch, thank you. When those pairs are clean I
>>> go-to. Still have a crotch in my boosa shorts, thanks to the insert.
>>>
>>> --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews.
>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
>> Other professional writing services.
>> http://www.resumespecialties.com/
>> www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique,  Vereinigte Staaten
>> 
>> 
>> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a
>> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and
>> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>>
>> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the
>> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>>
>> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>>
>> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>>
>>
>> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>



-- 
Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews.
By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
Other professional writing services.
http://www.resumespecialties.com/
www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/
Patrick Moore
Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique,  Vereinigte Staaten
**
**
*The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a
circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and
individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu

*Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the
world revolves.) *Carthusian motto

*It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart

*Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Which is why I haven't had a black Brooks in almost 25 years. But maybe 
this will catch on--crotch colorways. You could match the color of your 
crotch gusset with your cable color...

On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 4:49:36 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I have to laugh at the contrasting crotch furor. Tell y'all what: wear 
> khaki cutoffs in hot, sweaty weather on a black saddle. You'll have a 
> contrasting crotch. I always took it as a "badge of honor."
>
> Still, I'd not pay *money* for a startlingly contrasting crotch gusset.
>
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 2:15 PM, BenG > 
> wrote:
>
>> I love my contrasting crotch, thank you. When those pairs are clean I 
>> go-to. Still have a crotch in my boosa shorts, thanks to the insert.
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com .
>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews.
> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
> Other professional writing services.
> http://www.resumespecialties.com/
> www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique,  Vereinigte Staaten
> **
> **
> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the 
> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>
> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Dude, the moon mission was a total hoax! The government filmed it all in a 
secret bunker in Nevada. (If it really is round, are we always riding 
uphill, or downhill?)

On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 4:29:02 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>
>   I appreciate the appreciation Mark  .   
>
> You know, I heard today there are many that believe the Earth to be 
> flat certainly not the "norm" !   At first I thought how silly an idea 
> . then I caught myself in my own judge-mentalness.  I mean really . . . 
> so what if they believe it ?   Since my opinion of the Earth came from 
> being "told" it was round and accepted blindly as "the norm" because I 
> wanted to pass grade school and be approved by my parents and teachers, who 
> am I comment on someone else's beliefs whatever their reasons ? Nah  . 
> .  .  I'd rather just appreciate things that really matter, like the here 
> and now kinda stuff. Just appreciate that things are at all. 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 1:47:45 PM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>
>> Thank goodness! I will say I was concerned reading your initial response. 
>> Here we have  the garthness I've come to expect and appreciate. Glad you 
>> are back to your "norman" self;^)
>>
>> On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 4:42:33 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   I am going to retake my take on the color thing, since "normal" means 
>>> something different to everyone.  I wear my preferred style of pants rolled 
>>> up below the knee all the time year around. I just happen to ride a bike 
>>> sometimes too. Since I find 99% of pants, knickers and shorts to be unfit 
>>> to wear based on my own sense of freedom of movement, the only "normal" I 
>>> know is what I wear, so who am I to say what anyone else's "normal" may be 
>>> ?   Just wear whatever you want .
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Garth]

  Imagine the in-house furor if Riv had some made in say a grey-green combo 
, but they arrived with the crotch like a neon color or pink with purple 
polka dots , oh my 


On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 4:15:13 PM UTC-5, BenG wrote:
>
> I love my contrasting crotch, thank you. When those pairs are clean I 
> go-to. Still have a crotch in my boosa shorts, thanks to the insert.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Patrick Moore]

I have to laugh at the contrasting crotch furor. Tell y'all what: wear
khaki cutoffs in hot, sweaty weather on a black saddle. You'll have a
contrasting crotch. I always took it as a "badge of honor."

Still, I'd not pay *money* for a startlingly contrasting crotch gusset.

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 2:15 PM, BenG  wrote:

> I love my contrasting crotch, thank you. When those pairs are clean I
> go-to. Still have a crotch in my boosa shorts, thanks to the insert.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>



-- 
Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews.
By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
Other professional writing services.
http://www.resumespecialties.com/
www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/
Patrick Moore
Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique,  Vereinigte Staaten
**
**
*The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a
circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and
individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu

*Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the
world revolves.) *Carthusian motto

*It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart

*Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Garth]

  I appreciate the appreciation Mark  .   

You know, I heard today there are many that believe the Earth to be 
flat certainly not the "norm" !   At first I thought how silly an idea 
. then I caught myself in my own judge-mentalness.  I mean really . . . 
so what if they believe it ?   Since my opinion of the Earth came from 
being "told" it was round and accepted blindly as "the norm" because I 
wanted to pass grade school and be approved by my parents and teachers, who 
am I comment on someone else's beliefs whatever their reasons ? Nah  . 
.  .  I'd rather just appreciate things that really matter, like the here 
and now kinda stuff. Just appreciate that things are at all. 



On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 1:47:45 PM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Thank goodness! I will say I was concerned reading your initial response. 
> Here we have  the garthness I've come to expect and appreciate. Glad you 
> are back to your "norman" self;^)
>
> On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 4:42:33 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>>
>>
>>   I am going to retake my take on the color thing, since "normal" means 
>> something different to everyone.  I wear my preferred style of pants rolled 
>> up below the knee all the time year around. I just happen to ride a bike 
>> sometimes too. Since I find 99% of pants, knickers and shorts to be unfit 
>> to wear based on my own sense of freedom of movement, the only "normal" I 
>> know is what I wear, so who am I to say what anyone else's "normal" may be 
>> ?   Just wear whatever you want .
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[BenG]

I love my contrasting crotch, thank you. When those pairs are clean I go-to. 
Still have a crotch in my boosa shorts, thanks to the insert.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thank goodness! I will say I was concerned reading your initial response. 
Here we have  the garthness I've come to expect and appreciate. Glad you 
are back to your "norman" self;^)

On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 4:42:33 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>
>
>   I am going to retake my take on the color thing, since "normal" means 
> something different to everyone.  I wear my preferred style of pants rolled 
> up below the knee all the time year around. I just happen to ride a bike 
> sometimes too. Since I find 99% of pants, knickers and shorts to be unfit 
> to wear based on my own sense of freedom of movement, the only "normal" I 
> know is what I wear, so who am I to say what anyone else's "normal" may be 
> ?   Just wear whatever you want .
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Brian Campbell]

True. They are still wrong but true...;-0

On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 3:02:48 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> But others might be ...
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Brian Campbell  > wrote:
>
>> I ordered 2 pair as my guess is that they won't be offered that 
>> frequently going forward. I could care less about colored/non-colored 
>> crotch. Whether seated, standing, riding, running etc., I am not looking at 
>> my crotch.
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who wasn't bothered by his MUSAs with the blue/gray color 
> scheme
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Tim Butterfield]

My preference is for the same colors in tan/tan, grey/grey, blue/blue, or
even black/black.  But, I caved and ordered two pair of these grey/blue
because I have no other MUSA shorts and there is risk a consistent and/or
preferred color may not be available in the future.  Besides, the grey/blue
might go better with my AHH than a butterscotch/olive combination.  I would
not have ordered those.

Tim

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Garth]

  I am going to retake my take on the color thing, since "normal" means 
something different to everyone.  I wear my preferred style of pants rolled 
up below the knee all the time year around. I just happen to ride a bike 
sometimes too. Since I find 99% of pants, knickers and shorts to be unfit 
to wear based on my own sense of freedom of movement, the only "normal" I 
know is what I wear, so who am I to say what anyone else's "normal" may be 
?   Just wear whatever you want .

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Patrick Moore]

But others might be ...

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Brian Campbell 
wrote:

> I ordered 2 pair as my guess is that they won't be offered that frequently
> going forward. I could care less about colored/non-colored crotch. Whether
> seated, standing, riding, running etc., I am not looking at my crotch.
>
> Patrick Moore, who wasn't bothered by his MUSAs with the blue/gray color
scheme

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Brian Campbell]

I ordered 2 pair as my guess is that they won't be offered that frequently 
going forward. I could care less about colored/non-colored crotch. Whether 
seated, standing, riding, running etc., I am not looking at my crotch.

On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 12:10:05 PM UTC-5, Shawn Granton wrote:
>
> Since the tide seems to be moving towards "no contrasting gusset", I'll 
> put in the contrary vote and say I DO actually like the contrasting color 
> schemes. I have grey/blue and butterscotch/olive. I can see why some don't 
> like it, and I hope that Riv offers some "solid" color schemes. But I do 
> like the contrasting crotch!
>
> -Shawn
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Steven Sweedler]

On my olive green shorts the belt was elastic and I replaced it with static
webbing.Steve
On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:20 AM Daniel D.  wrote:

> They get a pass on the knickers. Even without velcro or reflective
> elements, capris aren't considered normal clothes for guys. Im a fan of
> knickers and wear them a lot just admitting the truth :p
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
-- 
Steven Sweedler Plymouth, New Hampshiret

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Shawn Granton]

Since the tide seems to be moving towards "no contrasting gusset", I'll put 
in the contrary vote and say I DO actually like the contrasting color 
schemes. I have grey/blue and butterscotch/olive. I can see why some don't 
like it, and I hope that Riv offers some "solid" color schemes. But I do 
like the contrasting crotch!

-Shawn

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Daniel D.]

They get a pass on the knickers. Even without velcro or reflective elements, 
capris aren't considered normal clothes for guys. Im a fan of knickers and wear 
them a lot just admitting the truth :p

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Garth]

The color thing I too always found to be completely contrary to the whole 
of idea of wearing "normal" clothes, since of course I have never seen what 
anyone would consider everyday clothing with such contrasting crotch 
gussets and other patches. 

Same with the huge velcro and reflective bands on the knickers. 


Q - Is the belt on these fully elastic or is it static ? 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Edwin W]

I'll bet they've never heard this contrastive crotch color conundrum before. 
Someone on the design team thought it was a good idea and it went forward. With 
this feedback I bet the next batch won't have that!

And let's hope there is a next batch. 

The only "problem" with the MUSA shorts I have (dark blue early style with same 
color crotch and grey newer style with blue crotch) is that they last so long. 
How can a business hope to sell new stuff when each piece lasts so long?

Edwin

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[drew]

I can't imagine anyone really wanting or needing a colored crotch, but it seems 
like a lot of people really don't want a colored crotch.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[RichS]

Other than black Riv has done olive green w/o the contrasting gusset. The 
latest offering has the boldest color contrast I can recall. 

Regards,
Richard

On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 6:54:49 PM UTC-5, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
> Did RBW ever explain the contrasting color gussets??   I do not recall 
> seeing something.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ 
>
> On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 7:09:47 AM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
>> I agree. I mentioned on another thread I don't use my butterscotch/olive 
>> green MUSA pants very often because of this. And every time I went for the 
>> black/black they were sold out. For a company that stresses riding in 
>> "regular" clothes, this detail is indeed inexplicable. We can get the 
>> concept that they have a gusset without making a color contrast, which is 
>> unflatteringly odd when spotted at the grocery store or the library or a 
>> garden party. I'm not overly fussy about my appearance but it kind of makes 
>> me feel like A.. Hey, there's my crotch, see? or B. I'm out in my weird 
>> pajamas. And I'm no mob boss 
>> .
>>
>>  I do have an older slate blue pair of MUSA shorts that has a dark blue 
>> gusset that is passable.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 11:22:39 AM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>>>
>>> Love musa shorts. Hate the colored gusset thing they keep doing. A Truly 
>>> baffling and unnecessary design choice to me. I was excited to get the new 
>>> version, but a colored crotch is a deal breaker. 
>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[John Hawrylak]

Did RBW ever explain the contrasting color gussets??   I do not recall 
seeing something.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ 

On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 7:09:47 AM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote:

> I agree. I mentioned on another thread I don't use my butterscotch/olive 
> green MUSA pants very often because of this. And every time I went for the 
> black/black they were sold out. For a company that stresses riding in 
> "regular" clothes, this detail is indeed inexplicable. We can get the 
> concept that they have a gusset without making a color contrast, which is 
> unflatteringly odd when spotted at the grocery store or the library or a 
> garden party. I'm not overly fussy about my appearance but it kind of makes 
> me feel like A.. Hey, there's my crotch, see? or B. I'm out in my weird 
> pajamas. And I'm no mob boss 
> .
>
>  I do have an older slate blue pair of MUSA shorts that has a dark blue 
> gusset that is passable.
>
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 11:22:39 AM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>>
>> Love musa shorts. Hate the colored gusset thing they keep doing. A Truly 
>> baffling and unnecessary design choice to me. I was excited to get the new 
>> version, but a colored crotch is a deal breaker. 
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I agree. I mentioned on another thread I don't use my butterscotch/olive 
green MUSA pants very often because of this. And every time I went for the 
black/black they were sold out. For a company that stresses riding in 
"regular" clothes, this detail is indeed inexplicable. We can get the 
concept that they have a gusset without making a color contrast, which is 
unflatteringly odd when spotted at the grocery store or the library or a 
garden party. I'm not overly fussy about my appearance but it kind of makes 
me feel like A.. Hey, there's my crotch, see? or B. I'm out in my weird 
pajamas. And I'm no mob boss 
.

 I do have an older slate blue pair of MUSA shorts that has a dark blue 
gusset that is passable.


On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 11:22:39 AM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
> Love musa shorts. Hate the colored gusset thing they keep doing. A Truly 
> baffling and unnecessary design choice to me. I was excited to get the new 
> version, but a colored crotch is a deal breaker. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[BSWP]

I think the shorter shorts are a good idea, but ugh... I've never liked 
mesh pockets for shorts, they invariably rip or tear and wear out long 
before fabric pockets do. I'm tempted, but have to factor in some sewing 
machine time to replace the pockets.

- Andrew, Berkeley

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Where is the shorts pre-order!?!?! I can't find it on the Riv site, on the 
Blug, Grant's blahg or the latest RBW Newsletter. What gives? 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[John Hawrylak]

Certainty seems strange.  I bought 1 pair of BLACK with the BLACK gusset.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 11:22:39 AM UTC-5, drew wrote:

> Love musa shorts. Hate the colored gusset thing they keep doing. A Truly 
> baffling and unnecessary design choice to me. I was excited to get the new 
> version, but a colored crotch is a deal breaker. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.