[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-10-29 Thread dougP
When people ask "what size tire should I use for a tour?", my advice
is "stick on the biggest one your bike will take".  You have found the
limit for the Roadeo!  And what a look.

dougP

On Oct 29, 4:43 am, [email protected] wrote:
> Rodeo with Shwalbe Marathon Supremes 700x40 mounted on Mavic Open Pro rims.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/d_nawrocki/sets/72157627878179821/
>
> Dave Nawrocki
> Fort Collins, CO
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 2:07:44 PM
> Subject: [RBW] Marathon Supremes
>
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 6:05:24 AM
> Subject: Marathon Supremes
>
> Last Saturday was work on the bikes day out in the garage. Changed up the 
> bars on the SO from mustache to albatross, and changed the noodles to 
> mustache bars on the Roadeo. Also got some marathon supreme 40's from Riv to 
> put on the SO. As I was starting to put on the rear of the SO I'm looking 
> over at the Roadeoclearance for fatties? Riv says 35 is max for Roadeo, 
> the supremes measure closer to 37.5, I gotta try. Take off the rear wheel and 
> put on the new tire, fit it back in and I cant believe it fits. No room for 
> fender but it clears chain stays and brake. Put the front one on and I am 
> laughing in delight, the Roadeo is transformed into a beast! Took it out for 
> a quick mixted bike path, road, and dirt trail ride, and tickled with delight 
> on how versatile these bikes that Grant designs are.
>
> I will go back to JB's on the Roadeo so I can fender it up for winter, and 
> put the supremes on the SO. They are a nice tire. Really shocked they fit on 
> the Rodeo.
>
> Dave Nawrocki
> Fort Collins, CO
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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-10-28 Thread EricP
I do like those tires on my Sam Hillborne.  However, on that bike,
thye don't look huge.  Or maybe I'm just more used to slightly larger
tires.  The skinniest I'll ride is 37 and those look positively
svelte.

Like others, would like to see photos of the Rodeo set up that way.
With a suitably light rider, the ride has to be extra plush.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Oct 28, 6:41 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> They were mounted on a Mavic Open Pro on the Rodeo, they are now on the MA3's 
> on the SO, awesome tire.
>
> Dave Nawrocki
> Fort Collins, CO
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Re: [RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-10-28 Thread nawrock
They were mounted on a Mavic Open Pro on the Rodeo, they are now on the MA3's 
on the SO, awesome tire. 


Dave Nawrocki 
Fort Collins, CO 

- Original Message -
From: "dougP"  
To: "RBW Owners Bunch"  
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 3:36:36 PM 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes 

The 700 x 40 Marathon Supremes I have measure 40 mm on a Mavic A719 
rim (fairly wide touring rim). So the 37.5 mm is probably on a 
narrower, more high performance rim. The rim is the other variable to 
consider when pushing the envelope on tire fit. 

The 40s look nicely chubby on my Atlantis; they must give the Roadeo a 
wild look. 

dougP 

On Oct 27, 1:07 pm, [email protected] wrote: 
> From: [email protected] 
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 6:05:24 AM 
> Subject: Marathon Supremes 
> 
> Last Saturday was work on the bikes day out in the garage. Changed up the 
> bars on the SO from mustache to albatross, and changed the noodles to 
> mustache bars on the Roadeo. Also got some marathon supreme 40's from Riv to 
> put on the SO. As I was starting to put on the rear of the SO I'm looking 
> over at the Roadeoclearance for fatties? Riv says 35 is max for Roadeo, 
> the supremes measure closer to 37.5, I gotta try. Take off the rear wheel and 
> put on the new tire, fit it back in and I cant believe it fits. No room for 
> fender but it clears chain stays and brake. Put the front one on and I am 
> laughing in delight, the Roadeo is transformed into a beast! Took it out for 
> a quick mixted bike path, road, and dirt trail ride, and tickled with delight 
> on how versatile these bikes that Grant designs are. 
> 
> I will go back to JB's on the Roadeo so I can fender it up for winter, and 
> put the supremes on the SO. They are a nice tire. Really shocked they fit on 
> the Rodeo. 
> 
> Dave Nawrocki 
> Fort Collins, CO 

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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-10-28 Thread dougP
The 700 x 40 Marathon Supremes I have measure 40 mm on a Mavic A719
rim (fairly wide touring rim).  So the 37.5 mm is probably on a
narrower, more high performance rim.  The rim is the other variable to
consider when pushing the envelope on tire fit.

The 40s look nicely chubby on my Atlantis; they must give the Roadeo a
wild look.

dougP

On Oct 27, 1:07 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 6:05:24 AM
> Subject: Marathon Supremes
>
> Last Saturday was work on the bikes day out in the garage. Changed up the 
> bars on the SO from mustache to albatross, and changed the noodles to 
> mustache bars on the Roadeo. Also got some marathon supreme 40's from Riv to 
> put on the SO. As I was starting to put on the rear of the SO I'm looking 
> over at the Roadeoclearance for fatties? Riv says 35 is max for Roadeo, 
> the supremes measure closer to 37.5, I gotta try. Take off the rear wheel and 
> put on the new tire, fit it back in and I cant believe it fits. No room for 
> fender but it clears chain stays and brake. Put the front one on and I am 
> laughing in delight, the Roadeo is transformed into a beast! Took it out for 
> a quick mixted bike path, road, and dirt trail ride, and tickled with delight 
> on how versatile these bikes that Grant designs are.
>
> I will go back to JB's on the Roadeo so I can fender it up for winter, and 
> put the supremes on the SO. They are a nice tire. Really shocked they fit on 
> the Rodeo.
>
> Dave Nawrocki
> Fort Collins, CO

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Re: [RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-10-28 Thread nawrock
I am such an idiot sometimes, haven't logged into flickr for so long that I 
have forgotten passwords and the like. LOL at self. I will figure it out and 
post the few pix of the monster Rodeo. 


Dave Nawrocki 
Fort Collins, CO 

- Original Message -
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To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 2:25:12 PM 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes 

Pictures! Gotta see that Roadeo. That would be like Brahma Bull version. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-10-27 Thread Lyle Bogart
I second the request for pics!

On 27 October 2011 16:25, William  wrote:

> Pictures!  Gotta see that Roadeo.  That would be like Brahma Bull version.
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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-10-27 Thread William
Pictures!  Gotta see that Roadeo.  That would be like Brahma Bull version.  

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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-28 Thread JoelMatthews
> I started on Marathon ?? Plus / Supreme.. the ones with the flat protection
> you could put a thumb tack in without a puncture.

Two different tires.

Marathon plus is the tire with the real thick inner layer:
http://smtp.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/marathon_plus_tour

It is designed for people riding in very rugged conditions as one
might find in rural Africa or South America.

The Supreme is a lighter tire made with a special flat resistant
compound:

http://smtp.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/marathon_supreme

It has less rolling resistance than the plus.

> Then I bought my Bombadil with 700x50 Big Apples.. WOW.. why would anyone
> tour on anything less that that?

If you have a bike that can accommodate Big Apples they are definitely
worth considering.  Very comfortable tires.

On Jan 27, 11:04 pm, Kelly Sleeper  wrote:
> I started on Marathon ?? Plus / Supreme.. the ones with the flat protection
> you could put a thumb tack in without a puncture.
> I first ran these 700x28's on a tour between Boulder Colorado and St Louis
> Mo.  The sold me along the way as I drank coffee and watched friends patch
> tubes from goat heads.  (multiple times daily)  Great story, one of my
> friends took his tire of  to patch the tube and it had six holes in it.    I
> just rode and enjoyed.
>
> I then went to the 700x35's for the next several tours, all short one week
> things.  I loved the extra stability and the better ride.
> Once again I've never had a flat with these tires.  
>
> I will continue to use them on tours but they are too heavy for daily riding
> in my opinion.  For daily riding I'm loving the JB's.
>
> Then I bought my Bombadil with 700x50 Big Apples.. WOW.. why would anyone
> tour on anything less that that?
> Ok why would I (and won't) ever tour on anything less than that.  It's just
> a marvelous feeling loaded up.  Stability, good roll etc.
>
> So I'll have to see if the Big Apple has the same quality protection or not
> before the next tour.. but I'm just sold on bigger tires period...
>
> Kelly

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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-28 Thread EricP
Strangely enough, I find about the same thing with my Sam Hillborne.
The 40mm Supremes can be slow and heavy.  Although not all the time.
While the frame can handle them, I was a bit happier last year on
Pasela 35s on my particular SH.

Otherwise, I have a set of Supremes 26x2.0 on a different bike and it
is quite a good riding experience.  Although not quite as cushy as
with Big Apples.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Jan 27, 8:22 pm, andrew hill  wrote:
> I've got 40mm Supremes on my Sam Hillborne.. I found them to be slow and 
> heavy, though bulletproof.  
>
> I've also got some Mara Racers on a Romulus.. extremely light and fast.
>
> Of course the 36 spoke Mavic versus 20 spoke Neuvation might have something 
> to do with it, too.
>
> Best,
> Andrew
>
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 6:14 PM, Ron MH wrote:
>
>
>
> > I"ve been riding 32mm Supremes on my Quickbeam with one flat in about
> > 1500mi. I doubt many tires would deflect a shiny new sheet metal
> > screw.
> > I've been very happy with the Supremes. However, I am jonesing for a
> > set of Schwalbe Marathon Racers.
>
> > Here's a shot of the 'beam with the Supremes:
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/visiondrawn/5210495113/sizes/l/in/photos...
>
> > On Jan 27, 2:46 pm, Jennings  wrote:
> >> My Pillar has been Hunqified.  Just posted pics on my flickr account
> >> for anyone who wants to see.  Rode around the neighborhood and they
> >> are really smooth.  You can see them 
> >> here.http://www.flickr.com/photos/22765148@N02/sets/72157625334333105/
>
> >> On Jan 27, 10:22 am, Mike  wrote:
>
> >>> Please post pictures of your Hunqa with those tires on them. Sounds
> >>> like a great set-up.
>
> >>> On Jan 27, 4:40 am, Jennings  wrote:
>
>  My 700x50 supremes were delivered yesterday by UPS.  Can't wait to get
>  them on the Hunq and try them ou this weekend.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>> - Show quoted text -
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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-27 Thread Kelly Sleeper
I started on Marathon ?? Plus / Supreme.. the ones with the flat protection 
you could put a thumb tack in without a puncture.
I first ran these 700x28's on a tour between Boulder Colorado and St Louis 
Mo.  The sold me along the way as I drank coffee and watched friends patch 
tubes from goat heads.  (multiple times daily)  Great story, one of my 
friends took his tire of  to patch the tube and it had six holes in it.I 
just rode and enjoyed. 
 
I then went to the 700x35's for the next several tours, all short one week 
things.  I loved the extra stability and the better ride. 
Once again I've never had a flat with these tires.  
 
I will continue to use them on tours but they are too heavy for daily riding 
in my opinion.  For daily riding I'm loving the JB's. 
 
Then I bought my Bombadil with 700x50 Big Apples.. WOW.. why would anyone 
tour on anything less that that? 
Ok why would I (and won't) ever tour on anything less than that.  It's just 
a marvelous feeling loaded up.  Stability, good roll etc.
 
So I'll have to see if the Big Apple has the same quality protection or not 
before the next tour.. but I'm just sold on bigger tires period... 
 
Kelly

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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-27 Thread doug peterson
Those are 50s?  Wow!  And I thought my Atlantis fork had clearance.
Those really fit the character of the bike.  The speedblends look a
bit lost on the Hunqa.  Looks like matching Acorn bags, no?  Nice
build.

dougP

On Jan 27, 2:38 pm, Jennings  wrote:
> My Pillar has been Hunqafied.  Just posted some pictures on my flickr
> account of the Hunqapillar with the 700x50's supremes.  Man are they
> smooth.  You can view them 
> here.http://www.flickr.com/photos/22765148@N02/sets/72157625334333105/
>
> On Jan 27, 10:22 am, Mike  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Please post pictures of your Hunqa with those tires on them. Sounds
> > like a great set-up.
>
> > On Jan 27, 4:40 am, Jennings  wrote:
>
> > > My 700x50 supremes were delivered yesterday by UPS.  Can't wait to get
> > > them on the Hunq and try them ou this weekend.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-27 Thread andrew hill
I've got 40mm Supremes on my Sam Hillborne.. I found them to be slow and heavy, 
though bulletproof.  

I've also got some Mara Racers on a Romulus.. extremely light and fast. 

Of course the 36 spoke Mavic versus 20 spoke Neuvation might have something to 
do with it, too.

Best,
Andrew
 
On Jan 27, 2011, at 6:14 PM, Ron MH wrote:

> I"ve been riding 32mm Supremes on my Quickbeam with one flat in about
> 1500mi. I doubt many tires would deflect a shiny new sheet metal
> screw.
> I've been very happy with the Supremes. However, I am jonesing for a
> set of Schwalbe Marathon Racers.
> 
> Here's a shot of the 'beam with the Supremes:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/visiondrawn/5210495113/sizes/l/in/photostream/
> 
> On Jan 27, 2:46 pm, Jennings  wrote:
>> My Pillar has been Hunqified.  Just posted pics on my flickr account
>> for anyone who wants to see.  Rode around the neighborhood and they
>> are really smooth.  You can see them 
>> here.http://www.flickr.com/photos/22765148@N02/sets/72157625334333105/
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 10:22 am, Mike  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Please post pictures of your Hunqa with those tires on them. Sounds
>>> like a great set-up.
>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 4:40 am, Jennings  wrote:
>> 
 My 700x50 supremes were delivered yesterday by UPS.  Can't wait to get
 them on the Hunq and try them ou this weekend.- Hide quoted text -
>> 
>>> - Show quoted text -
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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-27 Thread Ron MH
I"ve been riding 32mm Supremes on my Quickbeam with one flat in about
1500mi. I doubt many tires would deflect a shiny new sheet metal
screw.
I've been very happy with the Supremes. However, I am jonesing for a
set of Schwalbe Marathon Racers.

Here's a shot of the 'beam with the Supremes:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/visiondrawn/5210495113/sizes/l/in/photostream/

On Jan 27, 2:46 pm, Jennings  wrote:
> My Pillar has been Hunqified.  Just posted pics on my flickr account
> for anyone who wants to see.  Rode around the neighborhood and they
> are really smooth.  You can see them 
> here.http://www.flickr.com/photos/22765148@N02/sets/72157625334333105/
>
> On Jan 27, 10:22 am, Mike  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Please post pictures of your Hunqa with those tires on them. Sounds
> > like a great set-up.
>
> > On Jan 27, 4:40 am, Jennings  wrote:
>
> > > My 700x50 supremes were delivered yesterday by UPS.  Can't wait to get
> > > them on the Hunq and try them ou this weekend.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-27 Thread Jennings
My Pillar has been Hunqified.  Just posted pics on my flickr account
for anyone who wants to see.  Rode around the neighborhood and they
are really smooth.  You can see them here.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22765148@N02/sets/72157625334333105/

On Jan 27, 10:22 am, Mike  wrote:
> Please post pictures of your Hunqa with those tires on them. Sounds
> like a great set-up.
>
> On Jan 27, 4:40 am, Jennings  wrote:
>
>
>
> > My 700x50 supremes were delivered yesterday by UPS.  Can't wait to get
> > them on the Hunq and try them ou this weekend.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-27 Thread Jennings
My Pillar has been Hunqafied.  Just posted some pictures on my flickr
account of the Hunqapillar with the 700x50's supremes.  Man are they
smooth.  You can view them here.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22765148@N02/sets/72157625334333105/

On Jan 27, 10:22 am, Mike  wrote:
> Please post pictures of your Hunqa with those tires on them. Sounds
> like a great set-up.
>
> On Jan 27, 4:40 am, Jennings  wrote:
>
>
>
> > My 700x50 supremes were delivered yesterday by UPS.  Can't wait to get
> > them on the Hunq and try them ou this weekend.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-27 Thread Brad
I'm also running the 40mm Marathon Supremes on my Quickbeam with 50mm
Berthoud fenders.  I wouldn't have bought them (I'm a big Pasela fan)
but they came on my used Quickbeam.  I ride though a rough industrial
neighborhood on my commute and, picking up nails, screws, glass, etc
used to get 3 or 4 flats a month.  But I haven't gotten any in the 6
months since I started riding the Supremes.  With the 40s I don't have
as much fender clearance as I'd prefer.  But they definitely fit.

On Jan 27, 11:54 am, Minh  wrote:
> I'm going to jump in on this marathon love, is anyone running
> fenders?  i've got 48mm fenders with 700x37 vredesteins now (measure
> about 35), i think the 700x40 (if they measure at 38) would fit fine,
> but i'd like to go larger if possible.

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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-27 Thread Minh
I'm going to jump in on this marathon love, is anyone running
fenders?  i've got 48mm fenders with 700x37 vredesteins now (measure
about 35), i think the 700x40 (if they measure at 38) would fit fine,
but i'd like to go larger if possible.

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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-27 Thread Rocky B
Yah i've been riding 700x40 Supremes on my QB for 2 years already.  No
flats so far and they roll pretty dandy.  I love them.

I just wished Schwalbe made the Supremes in the 650b size.  *SIGH*

Rocky

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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-27 Thread Mike
Please post pictures of your Hunqa with those tires on them. Sounds
like a great set-up.

On Jan 27, 4:40 am, Jennings  wrote:
> My 700x50 supremes were delivered yesterday by UPS.  Can't wait to get
> them on the Hunq and try them ou this weekend.
>

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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-27 Thread Jennings
My 700x50 supremes were delivered yesterday by UPS.  Can't wait to get
them on the Hunq and try them ou this weekend.

On Jan 27, 1:51 am, charlie  wrote:
> I second that..I have the 700 x 40's (38mm) and run them at about
> 65 psi. They seem to ride as nice as my 35mm wide Paselas did only
> cushier. I also like the reflective strip. For me the 38 mm width
> seems perfect for all around riding. While probably not as gnarly as
> the older 700 x 47's I had on before, they seem tough enough.
>
> On Jan 26, 10:08 pm, rcnute  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'd heard they were heavy and slow.  But then I tried them (650b) and
> > I think they're just great.  Plus I really hate flats.
>
> > Ryan
>
> > On Jan 26, 8:43 pm, Mike  wrote:
>
> > > I got out for a 60 mile ride on the Hilsen today. It was my first ride
> > > on Schwalbe Marathon Supremes (700x35) which I purchased from Riv last
> > > week. What a fantastic tire! I love them. Just a really really good
> > > tire. They seemed to ride as nicely as Paselas but are hopefully
> > > sturdier. I also like that they have a reflective strip. I really have
> > > grown to love Schwalbe tires.
>
> > > --mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-26 Thread charlie
I second that..I have the 700 x 40's (38mm) and run them at about
65 psi. They seem to ride as nice as my 35mm wide Paselas did only
cushier. I also like the reflective strip. For me the 38 mm width
seems perfect for all around riding. While probably not as gnarly as
the older 700 x 47's I had on before, they seem tough enough.

On Jan 26, 10:08 pm, rcnute  wrote:
> I'd heard they were heavy and slow.  But then I tried them (650b) and
> I think they're just great.  Plus I really hate flats.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Jan 26, 8:43 pm, Mike  wrote:
>
> > I got out for a 60 mile ride on the Hilsen today. It was my first ride
> > on Schwalbe Marathon Supremes (700x35) which I purchased from Riv last
> > week. What a fantastic tire! I love them. Just a really really good
> > tire. They seemed to ride as nicely as Paselas but are hopefully
> > sturdier. I also like that they have a reflective strip. I really have
> > grown to love Schwalbe tires.
>
> > --mike

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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-26 Thread rcnute
I'd heard they were heavy and slow.  But then I tried them (650b) and
I think they're just great.  Plus I really hate flats.

Ryan

On Jan 26, 8:43 pm, Mike  wrote:
> I got out for a 60 mile ride on the Hilsen today. It was my first ride
> on Schwalbe Marathon Supremes (700x35) which I purchased from Riv last
> week. What a fantastic tire! I love them. Just a really really good
> tire. They seemed to ride as nicely as Paselas but are hopefully
> sturdier. I also like that they have a reflective strip. I really have
> grown to love Schwalbe tires.
>
> --mike

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[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-26 Thread doug peterson
MIke:

My Atlantis came with Paselas which were good but prone to sidewall
cuts due to my lack of attention in where I ride.  I changed to the
Marathon Supremes a few years back and will soon install my 3rd pair.
Expect 4-5k miles on a rear and few if any flats.  I run 60 psi and
only pump them up once or twice a month.  Wonderful tires.  Pricey to
buy but cost effective on a per mile or per flat basis.  You may now
forget about tires for a year or two.

dougP

On Jan 26, 8:43 pm, Mike  wrote:
> I got out for a 60 mile ride on the Hilsen today. It was my first ride
> on Schwalbe Marathon Supremes (700x35) which I purchased from Riv last
> week. What a fantastic tire! I love them. Just a really really good
> tire. They seemed to ride as nicely as Paselas but are hopefully
> sturdier. I also like that they have a reflective strip. I really have
> grown to love Schwalbe tires.
>
> --mike

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