[RBW] Re: My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

2013-10-12 Thread gep71154 
I think if Terry people could see the violence required to bend the rails 
in the first place, they might not quibble about a little gentle urging to 
make it slide into the post. Often, when the Brits are involved, there is 
no "plug and play."

On Saturday, October 12, 2013 7:44:20 AM UTC-7, Michael wrote:
>
> So is it safe to let the seatpost clamp guide the rails into place?
>
>  
> If I remember correctly, all my Brookses were 1m off or so, and I just let 
> the clamps guide the rails in as I tightened.
>  
> I once saw an instruction seat for a Terry saddle that was real 
> persnickety in warning the consumer that the rails had to fit perfectly 
> into the clamp. Both fore and aft as well as side to side. They seem to 
> want their saddles to get mounted on a clamp that fits their saddles just 
> so.
>  
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

2013-10-12 Thread Eric Platt 
I've had to ease Brooks saddles into seatposts in the past.  Not just
Nitto.  I use Terry saddles and try to be a bit more careful with the setup
there.  Possibly because the Cro-Mo rails are hollow?  They are sturdy as
I've never had a problem with a rail bending and have banged them around
getting them on a Thomson seatpost.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Michael  wrote:

> So is it safe to let the seatpost clamp guide the rails into place?
>
>
> If I remember correctly, all my Brookses were 1m off or so, and I just let
> the clamps guide the rails in as I tightened.
>
> I once saw an instruction seat for a Terry saddle that was real
> persnickety in warning the consumer that the rails had to fit perfectly
> into the clamp. Both fore and aft as well as side to side. They seem to
> want their saddles to get mounted on a clamp that fits their saddles just
> so.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

2013-10-12 Thread Michael 

>
> So is it safe to let the seatpost clamp guide the rails into place?

 
If I remember correctly, all my Brookses were 1m off or so, and I just let 
the clamps guide the rails in as I tightened.
 
I once saw an instruction seat for a Terry saddle that was real persnickety 
in warning the consumer that the rails had to fit perfectly into the clamp. 
Both fore and aft as well as side to side. They seem to want their saddles 
to get mounted on a clamp that fits their saddles just so.
 

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[RBW] Re: My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

2013-10-11 Thread grant 
Over the years (but not in the last ten years) we've gotten back half a 
dozen Brookses that didn't fit Nittos, and it was never the Nitto, they 
were always off by low single-digit millimeters, and always fell into place 
with a little forcing at the beginning. Although I speak their language 
better, when it comes to QC and precision, I'd vote for a forged Japanese 
part over a hand-fitted British one...generally.

On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 4:47:44 PM UTC-7, mike goldman wrote:
>
> i tried 3 of my ti B17's and the rails dont fit, too narrow. is this 
> typical of the S-83? 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

2013-10-11 Thread Tim Gavin 
Yeah, geez.  :)  I feel lucky owning 3 lugged steel bikes.


On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> I'm just imagining the wealth of owning at least 3 Titanium railed Brooks
> saddles.
>
> Did you try 3 of 5?  3 of 20?  3 of 36,000?  The mountains of wealth!
>
> Anyway, like others I run a B17 standard on an S-83, both bought from Riv,
> no rail width issue.
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 4:47:44 PM UTC-7, mike goldman wrote:
>>
>> i tried 3 of my ti B17's and the rails dont fit, too narrow. is this
>> typical of the S-83?
>>
>> mike goldman
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[RBW] Re: My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

2013-10-11 Thread Bill Lindsay 
I'm just imagining the wealth of owning at least 3 Titanium railed Brooks 
saddles.

Did you try 3 of 5?  3 of 20?  3 of 36,000?  The mountains of wealth!

Anyway, like others I run a B17 standard on an S-83, both bought from Riv, 
no rail width issue.

On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 4:47:44 PM UTC-7, mike goldman wrote:
>
> i tried 3 of my ti B17's and the rails dont fit, too narrow. is this 
> typical of the S-83? 
>
> mike goldman 
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[RBW] Re: My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

2013-10-11 Thread [email protected] 
I've had this trouble w/ a couple of Brooks saddles. If you remove the seat 
post and hold it in your lap or on a table, it is a bit easier to slowly 
tighten the bolt and gently force the rails to fit the seat post.  I 
tighten the seat post bolt first in the middle, and then at both ends of 
the rails. Once done, there's no problem mounting the saddle on a seat post.

Hope this helps,

John  

On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 4:47:44 PM UTC-7, mike goldman wrote:
>
> i tried 3 of my ti B17's and the rails dont fit, too narrow. is this 
> typical of the S-83? 
>
> mike goldman 
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[RBW] Re: My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

2013-10-09 Thread Jeremy Till 
The problem isn't so much the S-83 as the B17's--they are commonly a little 
bit narrow and are drawn apart as you tighten the clamp.  No biggie.  

On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 4:47:44 PM UTC-7, mike goldman wrote:
>
> i tried 3 of my ti B17's and the rails dont fit, too narrow. is this 
> typical of the S-83? 
>
> mike goldman 
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[RBW] Re: My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

2013-10-09 Thread Corwin 
Hi Mike -

I have a Berthoud Galibier ti saddle. I was also confused when the rails 
seemed to be too narrow to fit on my Nitto S83. I contacted Boulder 
Bicycle  who sold me the saddle and was told that I needed to gently 
persuade the rails into the grooves of the seat post.

I think that could be your problem as well.

Good luck!


Corwin

On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 4:47:44 PM UTC-7, mike goldman wrote:
>
> i tried 3 of my ti B17's and the rails dont fit, too narrow. is this 
> typical of the S-83? 
>
> mike goldman 
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[RBW] Re: My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

2013-10-09 Thread Kieran J 
My GF has an S-83 sporting a B17s on her bike. Seems to fit fine.

KJ




On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 8:07:20 PM UTC-4, RJM wrote:
>
> Mine works fine with my b17s, but they are specials and select models, not 
> ti. 
> On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 6:47:44 PM UTC-5, mike goldman wrote:
>>
>> i tried 3 of my ti B17's and the rails dont fit, too narrow. is this 
>> typical of the S-83? 
>>
>> mike goldman 
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[RBW] Re: My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

2013-10-09 Thread RJM 
Mine works fine with my b17s, but they are specials and select models, not 
ti. 
On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 6:47:44 PM UTC-5, mike goldman wrote:
>
> i tried 3 of my ti B17's and the rails dont fit, too narrow. is this 
> typical of the S-83? 
>
> mike goldman 
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