Re: [RBW] Re: My first Roadeo, built and ridden!

2016-02-24 Thread Bruce Smitham 
Hi Tim,

Your Rodeo looks awesome and I love the colors. I had Campy 10 speed 53/39 
crankset with 13/27 cassette when I bought my used Rodeo. I love all the 
Campy but I live on top of a hill. I ended up changing out the crankset and 
BB to a White Industries VBC 44/28. All I had to do was lower the front 
derailleur a bit and it works perfect. It was expensive but runs perfect. 
If I was more budget-minded then I would check out IRD Defiant wide compact 
crankset or that Velo Orange 46/30. I just don't like VO stuff that much 
because of an experience I had with some wheels a few years back. ZYou get 
what you pay for. VO handled it like pros so it worked out fine. Anyway, 
good luck and enjoy riding. I just took mine on a 25 mile spin today and 
loved every minute of it.

Bruce in San Diego

On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 9:30:20 AM UTC-8, islaysteve wrote:
>
> Thanks for the mirror info, Tim.  Enjoy your new ride!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: My first Roadeo, built and ridden!

2016-02-24 Thread islaysteve 
Thanks for the mirror info, Tim.  Enjoy your new ride!

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Re: [RBW] Re: My first Roadeo, built and ridden!

2016-02-24 Thread Tim Gavin 
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Paul G  wrote:

> I've been using the VO 46/30 MkII crank for a couple hundred miles now and
> have had no problems. It basically goes unnoticed when riding and looks
> really nice when I'm not. I used the recommended 118mm BB width on my 61cm
> Roadeo, but would have preferred a 115 for a slightly better chainline. The
> 175mm cranks would still clear the chainstays easily.
>
>
That's excellent and timely info, Paul.  I'll try a 115 BB first.

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Re: [RBW] Re: My first Roadeo, built and ridden!

2016-02-24 Thread Paul G 
I've been using the VO 46/30 MkII crank for a couple hundred miles now and have 
had no problems. It basically goes unnoticed when riding and looks really nice 
when I'm not. I used the recommended 118mm BB width on my 61cm Roadeo, but 
would have preferred a 115 for a slightly better chainline. The 175mm cranks 
would still clear the chainstays easily. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: My first Roadeo, built and ridden!

2016-02-24 Thread Tim Gavin 
Thanks for all the compliments!


On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:17 AM, RJM  wrote:

>
> I don't have one, but allow me to spend your money in my imagination...I
> would think that Compass Bikes Rene Herse crank would be killer for a
> Roadeo.
>
> The Rene Herse cranks are gorgeous, but I don't want to spend that kind of
money.  One of the justifications I used for this purchase was that I could
use the gruppo from my existing road bike with little extra expenditure.
The VO 46/30 double fits that kind of economical build, where the Rene
Herse does not.


On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 5:56 AM, islaysteve  wrote:

>  A minor question, what mirror did you use, and how do you like it?
> Thanks for sharing, Steve
>
> The mirror is a Busch & Mueller 901, on the /2 bar-end mount.  I use this
model on my carbon 'cross bike as well.

I bought the mirrors from bike-discount.de, but Peter White carries the
entire B&M line in the US.
Although the Ortlieb/D+D mirror that Riv carries has an excellent field of
view, I've broken multiples.  The B&M mirrors are more durable, and the
ball joints just pop apart when stressed, instead of shattering like the
Ortlieb/D+D/Riv mirror.

I use the 901 (or larger 903) on the /1 hose-clamp-and-arm mount on my
bikes with bar-end shifters.

I use the 903 (with the long-arm mount) on my fat bike.


On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 5:09 AM, ascpgh  wrote:

> Your build makes me nostalgic for the New Success group I used on a '91
> RB-1.  I was really impressed by how well that group operated under day to
> day use as well as on really long rides in the mountains where I lived.
>
> The front shifter and derailleur functioned with a third inner ring
> mounted via a TA triplizer middle ring to better climb mountains that were
> either too steep or too late in the day for a 39. Rare as hens' teeth and I
> think the smallest tooth count was 42, but got a 30t bailout gear to back
> it up for the low grinds.
>
> Sadly sold that bike complete (to fund my Rambouillet). That group was a
> very attractive part of it  and looks as good I remember on your bike.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>

Yes, the Sachs New Success group is attractive and works well.  It has a
very solid mechanical/clockwork feel.

I could get a 39t 135bcd tripleizer ring from David Banzer
,
and add a bailout ring.  That would allow me to keep the sexy Sachs/Campy
crank.
But, I don't like how much cranking on the shifters that Campy 8s Ergopower
requires to shift a triple (I tried it on my Riv Road); so I want to keep
the Roadeo a double.
I already have two other bikes with triples and bar-end shifters.

If I don't find a used subcompact double from the list, I'll get the Velo
Orange 46/30
.

Cheers,
Tim Gavin
Cedar Rapids, IA

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[RBW] Re: My first Roadeo, built and ridden!

2016-02-24 Thread ascpgh 
What a great bike, Tim That the one really has the bait for me. 

Your build makes me nostalgic for the New Success group I used on a '91 
RB-1. Got it on a coupon deal at Interbike for attending a training 
session Sachs put on to expand exposure to their IGHs and conglomerate 
groups. I was really impressed by how well that group operated under day to 
day use as well as on really long rides in the mountains where I lived. 

The front shifter and derailleur functioned with a third inner ring mounted 
via a TA triplizer middle ring to better climb mountains that were either 
too steep or too late in the day for a 39. Rare as hens' teeth and I think 
the smallest tooth count was 42, but got a 30t bailout gear to back it up 
for the low grinds. 

Sadly sold that bike complete (to fund my Rambouillet). That group was a 
very attractive part of it  and looks as good I remember on your bike. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 4:10:54 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I finished the build of my grey/kidney Roadeo on Saturday, and shod her 
> with 700 x 38 Challenge Gravel Grinder tires (which measure ~36 mm on Mavic 
> Open Pro rims).  I took it for a short ride and took some pictures:  
> http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/Tim_Gavin/library/Rivendell%20Roadeo
>
>
> Yesterday (Sunday), I replaced these tires with 700 x 32 Panaracer Gravel 
> King (knobby) tires and took it for a shakedown ride of 34 miles (in ~34 
> degree weather).
>
> No pictures yet, but it rode great.  Fast, but still reasonably 
> comfortable.  For those that are interested, here's my Strava record 
> .
>  
>  
>
> I need to dial in the pressures on the Gravel Kings, but they rolled well 
> at ~70-75 psi.  The small knobs on the tread look aggressive but are nearly 
> silent on the road (just a light hum).  The GKs give me a little more 
> clearance than the GGs; which is nice because there were sticks all over 
> the trail, especially the further I got from town.
>
> The first thing I'm going to change is to lower the gearing.  I borrowed 
> all the parts (except brake calipers and tires) for this build from my 
> Giordana XL-Eco, which made this a reasonably-economical new bike.  The 
> Giordana was a 90s road racer; therefore, the 53/39 crank.  I don't think I 
> shifted higher than 53 x 16, even on the downhill/downwind portion.
>
> I'm interested in a subcompact 46/30 or 48/32 double crank.  If anyone on 
> the list has such an item for sale, please PM me.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>

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[RBW] Re: My first Roadeo, built and ridden!

2016-02-23 Thread RJM 
Really great bike, Tim. The Roadeo is a great road bike capable of long 
distances of speedy and comfortable travel. 

I'm running a stock Ultegra setup on mine with a compact 50/34 crank and an 
11x28 cassette. It seems to work well for where I live, although thinking 
about it a 12x32 cassette might be a better choice. I just don't run that 
11 cog ever and would rather have a larger one on the other end. 

I don't have one, but allow me to spend your money in my imagination...I 
would think that Compass Bikes Rene Herse crank would be killer for a 
Roadeo. 

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 3:10:54 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:

> I finished the build of my grey/kidney Roadeo on Saturday, and shod her 
> with 700 x 38 Challenge Gravel Grinder tires (which measure ~36 mm on Mavic 
> Open Pro rims).  I took it for a short ride and took some pictures:  
> http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/Tim_Gavin/library/Rivendell%20Roadeo
>
>
> Yesterday (Sunday), I replaced these tires with 700 x 32 Panaracer Gravel 
> King (knobby) tires and took it for a shakedown ride of 34 miles (in ~34 
> degree weather).
>
> No pictures yet, but it rode great.  Fast, but still reasonably 
> comfortable.  For those that are interested, here's my Strava record 
> .
>  
>  
>
> I need to dial in the pressures on the Gravel Kings, but they rolled well 
> at ~70-75 psi.  The small knobs on the tread look aggressive but are nearly 
> silent on the road (just a light hum).  The GKs give me a little more 
> clearance than the GGs; which is nice because there were sticks all over 
> the trail, especially the further I got from town.
>
> The first thing I'm going to change is to lower the gearing.  I borrowed 
> all the parts (except brake calipers and tires) for this build from my 
> Giordana XL-Eco, which made this a reasonably-economical new bike.  The 
> Giordana was a 90s road racer; therefore, the 53/39 crank.  I don't think I 
> shifted higher than 53 x 16, even on the downhill/downwind portion.
>
> I'm interested in a subcompact 46/30 or 48/32 double crank.  If anyone on 
> the list has such an item for sale, please PM me.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>

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[RBW] Re: My first Roadeo, built and ridden!

2016-02-23 Thread Tony DeFilippo 
Great looking bike! I love the kidney/grey scheme!

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[RBW] Re: My first Roadeo, built and ridden!

2016-02-22 Thread Don Compton 
PERFECT

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 1:10:54 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I finished the build of my grey/kidney Roadeo on Saturday, and shod her 
> with 700 x 38 Challenge Gravel Grinder tires (which measure ~36 mm on Mavic 
> Open Pro rims).  I took it for a short ride and took some pictures:  
> http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/Tim_Gavin/library/Rivendell%20Roadeo
>
>
> Yesterday (Sunday), I replaced these tires with 700 x 32 Panaracer Gravel 
> King (knobby) tires and took it for a shakedown ride of 34 miles (in ~34 
> degree weather).
>
> No pictures yet, but it rode great.  Fast, but still reasonably 
> comfortable.  For those that are interested, here's my Strava record 
> .
>  
>  
>
> I need to dial in the pressures on the Gravel Kings, but they rolled well 
> at ~70-75 psi.  The small knobs on the tread look aggressive but are nearly 
> silent on the road (just a light hum).  The GKs give me a little more 
> clearance than the GGs; which is nice because there were sticks all over 
> the trail, especially the further I got from town.
>
> The first thing I'm going to change is to lower the gearing.  I borrowed 
> all the parts (except brake calipers and tires) for this build from my 
> Giordana XL-Eco, which made this a reasonably-economical new bike.  The 
> Giordana was a 90s road racer; therefore, the 53/39 crank.  I don't think I 
> shifted higher than 53 x 16, even on the downhill/downwind portion.
>
> I'm interested in a subcompact 46/30 or 48/32 double crank.  If anyone on 
> the list has such an item for sale, please PM me.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>

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