[RBW] Re: Need help replicating Riv custom on a budget - for a shortish female friend
one of my allies in bellingham wa has a soma san marcos and loves it i rode it and also like it very much. he, david, has an XO1 for sale which is small his price is a little high but i think it is cherry phone360 2240618 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Need help replicating Riv custom on a budget - for a shortish female friend
If she is mostly after the comfort, sitting position and over all practicality of your bike, she could do well with a conversion of an old MTB. With the right choice of stem and seatpost, you will probably be able to get the contact points and sitting position to within a few millimeters of what it is on your bike. The drawback of an MTB frame is a higher bottom bracket than on a road bike, which is more noticeable for shorter persons. How you fare with a high bottom bracket is very individual though, but I have to admit having a personal preference for low BB's, even though I'm 6'2. But that Surly Straggler looks very very fine I must say. Room for 650B 42 mm tires with fenders, and there are some of the worlds best and most comfortable tires in that dimension. Should work well with a porteur type of handlebar also. Johan Larsson, Sweden On Sunday, October 26, 2014 4:19:04 AM UTC+1, Lesli Larson wrote: I'm helping a friend source a new (or possibly) used bike to replicate my own Riv custom which has a 50cm seat tube and a 50 cm top tube. My bike, originally a rando rig, is now set up with porteur bars, inverse levers, wider brooks saddle, honjos and 38c grand bois tires. It's such a fun bike to ride. In my friends words, the bike changed her life, or at least, attitude about bike fit and comfort. My friend and I are both 5'3 and ride bikes in the 48cm to 50 cm range. I've been shopping around for a stock 650b frame for her that could be built up into an upright, go fast, weekender bike. We're in the Surly/Soma budget when it comes to the frame. Sadly, most of these bikes seems to be made for 700c wheels or have extra long top tubes (even for bikes that are 47cm). Send me your frame suggestions. Right now, our target is the Soma San Marcos which I believe takes 650b in smaller sizes. We're working with a terrific shop in Brooklyn. I just wanted to solicit the group for any extra knowledge of stock frames that we might also want to evaluate. Regards, Lesli Larson Eugene, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Need help replicating Riv custom on a budget - for a shortish female friend
Echoing Doug's thoughts, a 50 CM Ram might work. They take 38 mm tires w/o fenders and have great geometry in a small bike using 26 (559 ERD) wheels. On Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:49:23 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: Lesli: My wife is 5'2 and rides a 47 cm Atlantis with 26 wheels. Granted, they are somewhat rare but do come up for sale from time to time. While it's been on a few tours, most of her riding is casual / recreational / sport touring, and she loves the bike for it's comfort. Given your description of your own bike, I'd suggest any Rivendell in the sub 50 cm frame size would work, either 26 or 650b wheels. Smaller frame sizes often go for very affordable prices but patience is required. Or post a WTB on this list. OTH, if a new bike is preferred, David's suggestion is a good one. And definitely avoid 700c wheels in a small frame. There's just too many compromises needed to squeeze them into a sub-50 cm frame. My wife thought her 48 cm Trek with 700c wheels was just fine until she rode a 47 cm Atlantis with 26 wheels. She's not a bike geek or a snob, but immediately noticed the difference and purchased the Atlantis after riding it only a short time. I'm sure a Hilsen, Homer, or other Rivendell would have bee a similar experience. dougP On Saturday, October 25, 2014 8:19:04 PM UTC-7, Lesli Larson wrote: I'm helping a friend source a new (or possibly) used bike to replicate my own Riv custom which has a 50cm seat tube and a 50 cm top tube. My bike, originally a rando rig, is now set up with porteur bars, inverse levers, wider brooks saddle, honjos and 38c grand bois tires. It's such a fun bike to ride. In my friends words, the bike changed her life, or at least, attitude about bike fit and comfort. My friend and I are both 5'3 and ride bikes in the 48cm to 50 cm range. I've been shopping around for a stock 650b frame for her that could be built up into an upright, go fast, weekender bike. We're in the Surly/Soma budget when it comes to the frame. Sadly, most of these bikes seems to be made for 700c wheels or have extra long top tubes (even for bikes that are 47cm). Send me your frame suggestions. Right now, our target is the Soma San Marcos which I believe takes 650b in smaller sizes. We're working with a terrific shop in Brooklyn. I just wanted to solicit the group for any extra knowledge of stock frames that we might also want to evaluate. Regards, Lesli Larson Eugene, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Need help replicating Riv custom on a budget - for a shortish female friend
You might want to poke around for a small 1984 Trek 620 or one of the mid-80s 520s. Longish framesets, relaxed seat and head tubes, long chainstays, canti-posts. Details at Vintage-Trek.com. Either would be a great conversion to 650B which would give room for 38s. Originally designed as touring bikes (lots of braze-ons, so very easy to rack); these make wonderful upright utility/commuter/all-rounders. I know :-) My wife has the 620. http://www.vintage-trek.com/images/trek/84Trek3Touring.pdf You could get very close to your All-Rounder on one of these. Riv has a great set of bolt on wide-mouth, long-reach, side-pulls if you cannot get a canti-model. On Saturday, October 25, 2014 10:19:04 PM UTC-5, Lesli Larson wrote: I'm helping a friend source a new (or possibly) used bike to replicate my own Riv custom which has a 50cm seat tube and a 50 cm top tube. My bike, originally a rando rig, is now set up with porteur bars, inverse levers, wider brooks saddle, honjos and 38c grand bois tires. It's such a fun bike to ride. In my friends words, the bike changed her life, or at least, attitude about bike fit and comfort. My friend and I are both 5'3 and ride bikes in the 48cm to 50 cm range. I've been shopping around for a stock 650b frame for her that could be built up into an upright, go fast, weekender bike. We're in the Surly/Soma budget when it comes to the frame. Sadly, most of these bikes seems to be made for 700c wheels or have extra long top tubes (even for bikes that are 47cm). Send me your frame suggestions. Right now, our target is the Soma San Marcos which I believe takes 650b in smaller sizes. We're working with a terrific shop in Brooklyn. I just wanted to solicit the group for any extra knowledge of stock frames that we might also want to evaluate. Regards, Lesli Larson Eugene, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Need help replicating Riv custom on a budget - for a shortish female friend
or maybe, you could get this poster to a more reasonable price: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/internet-bob/Ut5CD7twypo On Saturday, October 25, 2014 10:19:04 PM UTC-5, Lesli Larson wrote: I'm helping a friend source a new (or possibly) used bike to replicate my own Riv custom which has a 50cm seat tube and a 50 cm top tube. My bike, originally a rando rig, is now set up with porteur bars, inverse levers, wider brooks saddle, honjos and 38c grand bois tires. It's such a fun bike to ride. In my friends words, the bike changed her life, or at least, attitude about bike fit and comfort. My friend and I are both 5'3 and ride bikes in the 48cm to 50 cm range. I've been shopping around for a stock 650b frame for her that could be built up into an upright, go fast, weekender bike. We're in the Surly/Soma budget when it comes to the frame. Sadly, most of these bikes seems to be made for 700c wheels or have extra long top tubes (even for bikes that are 47cm). Send me your frame suggestions. Right now, our target is the Soma San Marcos which I believe takes 650b in smaller sizes. We're working with a terrific shop in Brooklyn. I just wanted to solicit the group for any extra knowledge of stock frames that we might also want to evaluate. Regards, Lesli Larson Eugene, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Need help replicating Riv custom on a budget - for a shortish female friend
Thanks. These are great options and confirmed my suspicions that I should be watching the used market as well. I always want to buy new but ended up believing a better value and better product can be sourced from the past, so to speak. I would love to find a 47cm or 50 cm Riv frame - especially an Atlantis - that could be build up by my local shop, Blue Heron Bicycles. Curious to know how folks feel about the San Marcos versus the used Riv option. I'm taken aback a bit about the long top tube on even the smaller frames. Regards, LL On Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:19:04 PM UTC-4, Lesli Larson wrote: I'm helping a friend source a new (or possibly) used bike to replicate my own Riv custom which has a 50cm seat tube and a 50 cm top tube. My bike, originally a rando rig, is now set up with porteur bars, inverse levers, wider brooks saddle, honjos and 38c grand bois tires. It's such a fun bike to ride. In my friends words, the bike changed her life, or at least, attitude about bike fit and comfort. My friend and I are both 5'3 and ride bikes in the 48cm to 50 cm range. I've been shopping around for a stock 650b frame for her that could be built up into an upright, go fast, weekender bike. We're in the Surly/Soma budget when it comes to the frame. Sadly, most of these bikes seems to be made for 700c wheels or have extra long top tubes (even for bikes that are 47cm). Send me your frame suggestions. Right now, our target is the Soma San Marcos which I believe takes 650b in smaller sizes. We're working with a terrific shop in Brooklyn. I just wanted to solicit the group for any extra knowledge of stock frames that we might also want to evaluate. Regards, Lesli Larson Eugene, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Need help replicating Riv custom on a budget - for a shortish female friend
Is your friend planning on also using porteur bars or similar, to achieve the upright riding position? As you probably know, accommodating a long-ish top tube with swept-back bars is much less of a challenge than it can be for drop bar configurations. It would seem that the 650b San Marcos with Alba/Dove/VO porteur bars would be a solid option to look at! KJ On Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:19:04 PM UTC-4, Lesli Larson wrote: I'm helping a friend source a new (or possibly) used bike to replicate my own Riv custom which has a 50cm seat tube and a 50 cm top tube. My bike, originally a rando rig, is now set up with porteur bars, inverse levers, wider brooks saddle, honjos and 38c grand bois tires. It's such a fun bike to ride. In my friends words, the bike changed her life, or at least, attitude about bike fit and comfort. My friend and I are both 5'3 and ride bikes in the 48cm to 50 cm range. I've been shopping around for a stock 650b frame for her that could be built up into an upright, go fast, weekender bike. We're in the Surly/Soma budget when it comes to the frame. Sadly, most of these bikes seems to be made for 700c wheels or have extra long top tubes (even for bikes that are 47cm). Send me your frame suggestions. Right now, our target is the Soma San Marcos which I believe takes 650b in smaller sizes. We're working with a terrific shop in Brooklyn. I just wanted to solicit the group for any extra knowledge of stock frames that we might also want to evaluate. Regards, Lesli Larson Eugene, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Need help replicating Riv custom on a budget - for a shortish female friend
The San Marcos uses Riv's current expanded frame concept, so the seattube number is significantly smaller than the toptube. When shopping bikes like this and the Sam Hillborne, the trick is to ignore the claimed size of the frame and focus on how long the toptube is. The 47cm San Marcos has a 53.5 toptube, which I think would work for your friend with some kind of sweptback bar. It's a really nice frame at a really good price. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Sunday, October 26, 2014 8:01:05 AM UTC-7, Lesli Larson wrote: Thanks. These are great options and confirmed my suspicions that I should be watching the used market as well. I always want to buy new but ended up believing a better value and better product can be sourced from the past, so to speak. I would love to find a 47cm or 50 cm Riv frame - especially an Atlantis - that could be build up by my local shop, Blue Heron Bicycles. Curious to know how folks feel about the San Marcos versus the used Riv option. I'm taken aback a bit about the long top tube on even the smaller frames. Regards, LL On Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:19:04 PM UTC-4, Lesli Larson wrote: I'm helping a friend source a new (or possibly) used bike to replicate my own Riv custom which has a 50cm seat tube and a 50 cm top tube. My bike, originally a rando rig, is now set up with porteur bars, inverse levers, wider brooks saddle, honjos and 38c grand bois tires. It's such a fun bike to ride. In my friends words, the bike changed her life, or at least, attitude about bike fit and comfort. My friend and I are both 5'3 and ride bikes in the 48cm to 50 cm range. I've been shopping around for a stock 650b frame for her that could be built up into an upright, go fast, weekender bike. We're in the Surly/Soma budget when it comes to the frame. Sadly, most of these bikes seems to be made for 700c wheels or have extra long top tubes (even for bikes that are 47cm). Send me your frame suggestions. Right now, our target is the Soma San Marcos which I believe takes 650b in smaller sizes. We're working with a terrific shop in Brooklyn. I just wanted to solicit the group for any extra knowledge of stock frames that we might also want to evaluate. Regards, Lesli Larson Eugene, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Need help replicating Riv custom on a budget - for a shortish female friend
Lesli: My wife is 5'2 and rides a 47 cm Atlantis with 26 wheels. Granted, they are somewhat rare but do come up for sale from time to time. While it's been on a few tours, most of her riding is casual / recreational / sport touring, and she loves the bike for it's comfort. Given your description of your own bike, I'd suggest any Rivendell in the sub 50 cm frame size would work, either 26 or 650b wheels. Smaller frame sizes often go for very affordable prices but patience is required. Or post a WTB on this list. OTH, if a new bike is preferred, David's suggestion is a good one. And definitely avoid 700c wheels in a small frame. There's just too many compromises needed to squeeze them into a sub-50 cm frame. My wife thought her 48 cm Trek with 700c wheels was just fine until she rode a 47 cm Atlantis with 26 wheels. She's not a bike geek or a snob, but immediately noticed the difference and purchased the Atlantis after riding it only a short time. I'm sure a Hilsen, Homer, or other Rivendell would have bee a similar experience. dougP On Saturday, October 25, 2014 8:19:04 PM UTC-7, Lesli Larson wrote: I'm helping a friend source a new (or possibly) used bike to replicate my own Riv custom which has a 50cm seat tube and a 50 cm top tube. My bike, originally a rando rig, is now set up with porteur bars, inverse levers, wider brooks saddle, honjos and 38c grand bois tires. It's such a fun bike to ride. In my friends words, the bike changed her life, or at least, attitude about bike fit and comfort. My friend and I are both 5'3 and ride bikes in the 48cm to 50 cm range. I've been shopping around for a stock 650b frame for her that could be built up into an upright, go fast, weekender bike. We're in the Surly/Soma budget when it comes to the frame. Sadly, most of these bikes seems to be made for 700c wheels or have extra long top tubes (even for bikes that are 47cm). Send me your frame suggestions. Right now, our target is the Soma San Marcos which I believe takes 650b in smaller sizes. We're working with a terrific shop in Brooklyn. I just wanted to solicit the group for any extra knowledge of stock frames that we might also want to evaluate. Regards, Lesli Larson Eugene, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
