[RBW] Re: New Hilsen in the Wissahickon
Spent almost 4 hours at the expo. I enjoyed it as usual although I think last year was a bit better with the exhibitors, however I am not going to complain about having this event close to me. Made for a good afternoon of fun -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Hilsen in the Wissahickon
Let's do it! Unfortunately, I have to miss the bike expo this year. I'm in San Diego for work and couldn't get back in time. Still pretty bummed. Oh well! Eric On Friday, November 4, 2016 at 12:39:21 PM UTC-4, Jonathan Shinefeld wrote: > > Eric, your bike is gorgeous. Perfect proportions to my eye. I'm also in > Phila (650 Rambouillet) and would enjoy a local Riv ride. > Jon > > On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 8:36:09 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote: >> >> Hi all- >> >> After six months with the commuter SimpleOne as my only bike, I decided >> to build up a geared bike for longer rides into the wooded areas outside of >> Center City Philadelphia. I ended up picking up a wonderful Hilsen frame >> from list member Charles (to whom I had previously sold my Roadeo). While >> the old 62cm Rivs are perfect for me, I went with a 61 in case I ever want >> my short torso to be comfortable on a drop setup. But for now it's sporting >> sweptback bars. Build-wise, I didn't have much money to spend, so my goal >> on this bike was to build it up for free. So every part is either (a) from >> my existing parts bin; (b) acquired via trade; or (c) purchased with funds >> from parts sold here or on eBay. >> >> The last two weeks, I've been taking it for some long rides up into the >> Wissahickon Park on the outskirts of Philly. And it's great! The low bottom >> bracket makes it s stable, but still zippy. Fantastic. There are still >> a few things I need to dial in. I was having back pain when I first started >> riding it. Couldn't figure out why, as the reach and bar height was >> consistent with my SimpleOne. Then I halfway through the ride today >> realized I was riding the AHH in shoes with much thinner soles. Lowered the >> seat a bit and that seems to have helped. I'm still on the fence about the >> albatross bars, Ergon grips, and friction shifting. But I'll live with them >> for a while and see if they grow on me (and to be fair, the friction >> shifting issues are likely due to my mediocre mechanical skills). >> >> Anyways, it was a beautiful ride today. And my route out to the park >> passed a major regatta on the Schuylkill River. Universities from up and >> down the east coast were competing. So I took some water breaks to watch >> the action. Hope all you east coasters also get some autumnal rides in this >> weekend! >> >> Eric >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Hilsen in the Wissahickon
I'll be at the expo. I should wear my Rivendell cap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Hilsen in the Wissahickon
Eric: RIding the Wissahickon and Schuylkill tomorrow to/from the Philly Bike Expo... Will look out for your Hilsen... Hope to see you (and others at the Expo tomorrow/Sat)!!! BB On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 8:36:09 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote: > > Hi all- > > After six months with the commuter SimpleOne as my only bike, I decided to > build up a geared bike for longer rides into the wooded areas outside of > Center City Philadelphia. I ended up picking up a wonderful Hilsen frame > from list member Charles (to whom I had previously sold my Roadeo). While > the old 62cm Rivs are perfect for me, I went with a 61 in case I ever want > my short torso to be comfortable on a drop setup. But for now it's sporting > sweptback bars. Build-wise, I didn't have much money to spend, so my goal > on this bike was to build it up for free. So every part is either (a) from > my existing parts bin; (b) acquired via trade; or (c) purchased with funds > from parts sold here or on eBay. > > The last two weeks, I've been taking it for some long rides up into the > Wissahickon Park on the outskirts of Philly. And it's great! The low bottom > bracket makes it s stable, but still zippy. Fantastic. There are still > a few things I need to dial in. I was having back pain when I first started > riding it. Couldn't figure out why, as the reach and bar height was > consistent with my SimpleOne. Then I halfway through the ride today > realized I was riding the AHH in shoes with much thinner soles. Lowered the > seat a bit and that seems to have helped. I'm still on the fence about the > albatross bars, Ergon grips, and friction shifting. But I'll live with them > for a while and see if they grow on me (and to be fair, the friction > shifting issues are likely due to my mediocre mechanical skills). > > Anyways, it was a beautiful ride today. And my route out to the park > passed a major regatta on the Schuylkill River. Universities from up and > down the east coast were competing. So I took some water breaks to watch > the action. Hope all you east coasters also get some autumnal rides in this > weekend! > > Eric > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Hilsen in the Wissahickon
Eric, your bike is gorgeous. Perfect proportions to my eye. I'm also in Phila (650 Rambouillet) and would enjoy a local Riv ride. Jon On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 8:36:09 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote: > > Hi all- > > After six months with the commuter SimpleOne as my only bike, I decided to > build up a geared bike for longer rides into the wooded areas outside of > Center City Philadelphia. I ended up picking up a wonderful Hilsen frame > from list member Charles (to whom I had previously sold my Roadeo). While > the old 62cm Rivs are perfect for me, I went with a 61 in case I ever want > my short torso to be comfortable on a drop setup. But for now it's sporting > sweptback bars. Build-wise, I didn't have much money to spend, so my goal > on this bike was to build it up for free. So every part is either (a) from > my existing parts bin; (b) acquired via trade; or (c) purchased with funds > from parts sold here or on eBay. > > The last two weeks, I've been taking it for some long rides up into the > Wissahickon Park on the outskirts of Philly. And it's great! The low bottom > bracket makes it s stable, but still zippy. Fantastic. There are still > a few things I need to dial in. I was having back pain when I first started > riding it. Couldn't figure out why, as the reach and bar height was > consistent with my SimpleOne. Then I halfway through the ride today > realized I was riding the AHH in shoes with much thinner soles. Lowered the > seat a bit and that seems to have helped. I'm still on the fence about the > albatross bars, Ergon grips, and friction shifting. But I'll live with them > for a while and see if they grow on me (and to be fair, the friction > shifting issues are likely due to my mediocre mechanical skills). > > Anyways, it was a beautiful ride today. And my route out to the park > passed a major regatta on the Schuylkill River. Universities from up and > down the east coast were competing. So I took some water breaks to watch > the action. Hope all you east coasters also get some autumnal rides in this > weekend! > > Eric > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Hilsen in the Wissahickon
Interesting, I was thinking only Toyo's featured water bottle mounts. What's that color called? Creamsicle orange? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Hilsen in the Wissahickon
I meant...featured TWO water bottle mounts. On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 7:36:09 PM UTC-5, Eric Karnes wrote: > > Hi all- > > After six months with the commuter SimpleOne as my only bike, I decided to > build up a geared bike for longer rides into the wooded areas outside of > Center City Philadelphia. I ended up picking up a wonderful Hilsen frame > from list member Charles (to whom I had previously sold my Roadeo). While > the old 62cm Rivs are perfect for me, I went with a 61 in case I ever want > my short torso to be comfortable on a drop setup. But for now it's sporting > sweptback bars. Build-wise, I didn't have much money to spend, so my goal > on this bike was to build it up for free. So every part is either (a) from > my existing parts bin; (b) acquired via trade; or (c) purchased with funds > from parts sold here or on eBay. > > The last two weeks, I've been taking it for some long rides up into the > Wissahickon Park on the outskirts of Philly. And it's great! The low bottom > bracket makes it s stable, but still zippy. Fantastic. There are still > a few things I need to dial in. I was having back pain when I first started > riding it. Couldn't figure out why, as the reach and bar height was > consistent with my SimpleOne. Then I halfway through the ride today > realized I was riding the AHH in shoes with much thinner soles. Lowered the > seat a bit and that seems to have helped. I'm still on the fence about the > albatross bars, Ergon grips, and friction shifting. But I'll live with them > for a while and see if they grow on me (and to be fair, the friction > shifting issues are likely due to my mediocre mechanical skills). > > Anyways, it was a beautiful ride today. And my route out to the park > passed a major regatta on the Schuylkill River. Universities from up and > down the east coast were competing. So I took some water breaks to watch > the action. Hope all you east coasters also get some autumnal rides in this > weekend! > > Eric > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Hilsen in the Wissahickon
>From what I understand, it was and early Hilsen and was built by Waterford. I'm definitely going to noodle with the Ergon grips. I think I might have them oriented too vertically as you mentioned. As for comparisons to the Roadeo...let's see. The Roadeo is a really wonderful bike and is much more versatile than the write-up on Riv's site gives it credit for. It performed relatively well on the dirt or gravel trails with the Jack Browns it was shod with. But it's most definitely a road race bike. A comfortable one, but still a road race bike. It's lighter and jumpier...and handles exactly how that type of bike should. The Hilsen is more stable, more relaxed. And fits my riding style much better. It also handles a bit more confidently off-road (though I do have wider knobbies on the Hilsen vs. the Jack Browns on the Roadeo, so that has something to do with it). Hope that all made a modicum of sense. I'm been traveling all day and my brain feels like mush. On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 4:19:12 PM UTC-4, Eric wrote: > > Is that a Toyo or Waterford build frame? > >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Hilsen in the Wissahickon
Is that a Toyo or Waterford build frame? > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Hilsen in the Wissahickon
Hi, I might be wrong here, but are the Ergon grips set up so the wedge supports your palm? In the photo it looks like the widest part is facing down rather than horizontal to support the lower part of your hand. I haven't used ergons but I thought they were designed for wider, horizontal support. Great build! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Hilsen in the Wissahickon
Richard: Thanks! I doubt the back pain is due to the downtube shifting, as I'm a notoriously lazy shifter. I usually only shift if I absolutely have to...even when running barends or thumbies. The lowering of the saddle definitely helped, though I need another long ride to find out it that completely alleviates it. And yes, that is in fact a threadless setup. The original owner had it made with a threadless fork and 130mm rear spacing. The spacing worked out perfectly for a spare wheelset I had banging around and I really like the look of a decently proportioned (non-chunky) threadless stem with the Rivendell lugs. There's a nice contrast between the ornamental and industrial. Brian: I'd love to do a local Riv ride. Shoot me an email and we can set something up. I definitely need to do some more trial and error with the bars. I generally like upright bars, but have never really meshed with the Albatross. I really want to like it (sooo pretty and I love the way it looks on a Hilsen with chubby tires), but it's always felt weird to me. Though I do like the control when riding over bumpy dirt trails. With my short torso, I've always felt uncomfortable with drop bars. But I'm interested in trying them out. Having grown up exclusively mountain biking with flat bars, I admit to finding them a bit intimidating. Perhaps I just need someone with more experience to walk me through the ideal setup. I've asked at bike shops before, but they always look at me like I'm and idiot. Eric On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 9:22:02 AM UTC-4, RichS wrote: > > Eric, your AHH is gorgeous! Could it be the back pain you experienced was > partly a result of the downtube shifter setup? Looks like a fair reach from > the bars to the shift lever. > > Are my eyes deceiving me or is that a threadless steerer? Just curious. I > don't recall seeing many Hilsen's going the threadless route. > > Enjoy your fall rides! > Richard > > On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 8:36:09 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote: >> >> Hi all- >> >> After six months with the commuter SimpleOne as my only bike, I decided >> to build up a geared bike for longer rides into the wooded areas outside of >> Center City Philadelphia. I ended up picking up a wonderful Hilsen frame >> from list member Charles (to whom I had previously sold my Roadeo). While >> the old 62cm Rivs are perfect for me, I went with a 61 in case I ever want >> my short torso to be comfortable on a drop setup. But for now it's sporting >> sweptback bars. Build-wise, I didn't have much money to spend, so my goal >> on this bike was to build it up for free. So every part is either (a) from >> my existing parts bin; (b) acquired via trade; or (c) purchased with funds >> from parts sold here or on eBay. >> >> The last two weeks, I've been taking it for some long rides up into the >> Wissahickon Park on the outskirts of Philly. And it's great! The low bottom >> bracket makes it s stable, but still zippy. Fantastic. There are still >> a few things I need to dial in. I was having back pain when I first started >> riding it. Couldn't figure out why, as the reach and bar height was >> consistent with my SimpleOne. Then I halfway through the ride today >> realized I was riding the AHH in shoes with much thinner soles. Lowered the >> seat a bit and that seems to have helped. I'm still on the fence about the >> albatross bars, Ergon grips, and friction shifting. But I'll live with them >> for a while and see if they grow on me (and to be fair, the friction >> shifting issues are likely due to my mediocre mechanical skills). >> >> Anyways, it was a beautiful ride today. And my route out to the park >> passed a major regatta on the Schuylkill River. Universities from up and >> down the east coast were competing. So I took some water breaks to watch >> the action. Hope all you east coasters also get some autumnal rides in this >> weekend! >> >> Eric >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Hilsen in the Wissahickon
Great bike! As a fellow AHH owner who rides through the Wissahickon regularly, I would not feel bad if the upright bars don't work for you. They don't work for me either. I have tried all sorts of alternate bars but always end up back at 46cm Noodle bar. I think you have to try different things to see if they work for you but not feel that there is only one correct way. If it were me, I would ditch the handlebars and the friction shifting if you don't like them. It does not take very long to know if something is working for you or not. No point in trying to put that square peg in the round hole I prefer indexed,(10sp) downtube shifting on my bike. I cracked 3 vertebrae back in 2008, in a sledding accident with my kids. Having to reach down, change my position and adjust my weight, all helps to relieve back pain on longer rides in my experience. Sitting in essentially one position for an extended period, rarely helps my back feel better. BTW, my brother who lives in the area just picked up a used Romulus off this list. We should get together for a RIv. ride in the near future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Hilsen in the Wissahickon
Eric, your AHH is gorgeous! Could it be the back pain you experienced was partly a result of the downtube shifter setup? Looks like a fair reach from the bars to the shift lever. Are my eyes deceiving me or is that a threadless steerer? Just curious. I don't recall seeing many Hilsen's going the threadless route. Enjoy your fall rides! Richard On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 8:36:09 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote: > > Hi all- > > After six months with the commuter SimpleOne as my only bike, I decided to > build up a geared bike for longer rides into the wooded areas outside of > Center City Philadelphia. I ended up picking up a wonderful Hilsen frame > from list member Charles (to whom I had previously sold my Roadeo). While > the old 62cm Rivs are perfect for me, I went with a 61 in case I ever want > my short torso to be comfortable on a drop setup. But for now it's sporting > sweptback bars. Build-wise, I didn't have much money to spend, so my goal > on this bike was to build it up for free. So every part is either (a) from > my existing parts bin; (b) acquired via trade; or (c) purchased with funds > from parts sold here or on eBay. > > The last two weeks, I've been taking it for some long rides up into the > Wissahickon Park on the outskirts of Philly. And it's great! The low bottom > bracket makes it s stable, but still zippy. Fantastic. There are still > a few things I need to dial in. I was having back pain when I first started > riding it. Couldn't figure out why, as the reach and bar height was > consistent with my SimpleOne. Then I halfway through the ride today > realized I was riding the AHH in shoes with much thinner soles. Lowered the > seat a bit and that seems to have helped. I'm still on the fence about the > albatross bars, Ergon grips, and friction shifting. But I'll live with them > for a while and see if they grow on me (and to be fair, the friction > shifting issues are likely due to my mediocre mechanical skills). > > Anyways, it was a beautiful ride today. And my route out to the park > passed a major regatta on the Schuylkill River. Universities from up and > down the east coast were competing. So I took some water breaks to watch > the action. Hope all you east coasters also get some autumnal rides in this > weekend! > > Eric > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Hilsen in the Wissahickon
X2 *"Beautiful - love the orange and the high flange front hub especially*" On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 8:45:10 PM UTC-4, RoadieRyan wrote: > > Beautiful - love the orange and the high flange front hub especially > > >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Hilsen in the Wissahickon
Beautiful - love the orange and the high flange front hub especially On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 5:36:09 PM UTC-7, Eric Karnes wrote: > > Hi all- > > After six months with the commuter SimpleOne as my only bike, I decided to > build up a geared bike for longer rides into the wooded areas outside of > Center City Philadelphia. I ended up picking up a wonderful Hilsen frame > from list member Charles (to whom I had previously sold my Roadeo). While > the old 62cm Rivs are perfect for me, I went with a 61 in case I ever want > my short torso to be comfortable on a drop setup. But for now it's sporting > sweptback bars. Build-wise, I didn't have much money to spend, so my goal > on this bike was to build it up for free. So every part is either (a) from > my existing parts bin; (b) acquired via trade; or (c) purchased with funds > from parts sold here or on eBay. > > The last two weeks, I've been taking it for some long rides up into the > Wissahickon Park on the outskirts of Philly. And it's great! The low bottom > bracket makes it s stable, but still zippy. Fantastic. There are still > a few things I need to dial in. I was having back pain when I first started > riding it. Couldn't figure out why, as the reach and bar height was > consistent with my SimpleOne. Then I halfway through the ride today > realized I was riding the AHH in shoes with much thinner soles. Lowered the > seat a bit and that seems to have helped. I'm still on the fence about the > albatross bars, Ergon grips, and friction shifting. But I'll live with them > for a while and see if they grow on me (and to be fair, the friction > shifting issues are likely due to my mediocre mechanical skills). > > Anyways, it was a beautiful ride today. And my route out to the park > passed a major regatta on the Schuylkill River. Universities from up and > down the east coast were competing. So I took some water breaks to watch > the action. Hope all you east coasters also get some autumnal rides in this > weekend! > > Eric > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
