Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Johan Larsson]

On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Evan Baird  wrote:

> The name was licensed from New Albion brewing.
>
> http://karledwards.com/blog/process-of-process-the-new-albion-cycles-badge/
>


But it doesn't say anything, not even a word about that in the link you
provided?

/Johan Larsson,
Sweden

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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Evan Baird]

The name was licensed from New Albion brewing.

http://karledwards.com/blog/process-of-process-the-new-albion-cycles-badge/

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:31:56 AM UTC-7, Matt wrote:
>
> Someone with a business background (not me) could probably chime in with a 
> name for it, but what I see is a classic pattern used in product sales and 
> marketing. 
>
> There is an established classic bicycle aesthetic, with ascribed 
> qualities, values, and identities, that Rivendell is arguably at the 
> forefront of.  New Albion capitalizes on this established and 
> well-worked-for aesthetic by providing bike buyers with solid elements of 
> the aesthetic, but at a lower price. 
>
> This is why KIA designed a car to look like the Honda Civic and Ford made 
> the Taurus look like an Aston Martin.  They tread heavily on the design of 
> the more established, higher status and more expensive product, but sell at 
> a cheaper price. 
>
> So like buyers of the Ford Taurus, buyers of the New Albion might aspire 
> to one day afford/own a Rivendell, but settle (at least in the mean time) 
> for something that fulfills to their satisfaction both the aesthetic needs 
> and functional needs of the bike, but at a lower cost.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Jim A]

A steerer tube shim and then whichever 1 1/8" stem you want. Not a very 
elegant solution but pretty much invisible when installed. Theoretically 
could cause problems but pretty unlikely to.

On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 8:20:37 PM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> what are they using in terms of stem? 
> =- Joe Bunik 
> Walnut Creek, CA 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Joe Bunik]

what are they using in terms of stem?
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

On 3/26/15, Jim A  wrote:
> It is indeed 1" threadless. Slightly strange choice. But I have built up a
> couple of the frames and like them.
>
> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:25:21 PM UTC-7, Eddie Flayer wrote:
>>
>> it says 1 inch headset, so must be 1 inch threadless steerer. If in doubt,
>>
>> send them an email.
>>
>> On Friday, February 14, 2014 at 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>>>
>>> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>>>
>>> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be
>>> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from
>>> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Jim A]

It is indeed 1" threadless. Slightly strange choice. But I have built up a 
couple of the frames and like them. 

On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:25:21 PM UTC-7, Eddie Flayer wrote:
>
> it says 1 inch headset, so must be 1 inch threadless steerer. If in doubt, 
> send them an email.
>
> On Friday, February 14, 2014 at 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>>
>> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>>  
>> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
>> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
>> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Eddie Flayer]

it says 1 inch headset, so must be 1 inch threadless steerer. If in doubt, 
send them an email.

On Friday, February 14, 2014 at 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>
> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Johan Larsson]

I thought steeper seat tube angles for smaller sizes were a thing of the past? 
Only means you have to shove back the saddle more and more, and have seat posts 
with more setback.

Johan Larsson, 
Sweden 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Eric Norris]

If we're going back that far, let's keep going. The first ale was brewed in the 
US in 1587!

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/101/history_american_beer/ 

--Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

> On Mar 24, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Brewster Fong  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 8:06:05 PM UTC-7, Bill M. wrote:
>> Ahem.
>> 
>>  
>> The New Albion Brewing Company was founded in 1976 in Sonoma, CA, and was 
>> the first modern American microbrewery.  
>  
> Actually, it is debatable whether Albion was the *first* modern American 
> "microbrewery!"  Anchor Brewery which started in 1849, came out with its 
> Anchor Steam Beer in 1971!
>  
>  http://www.anchorbrewing.com/brewery/our_history
>  
>  
>> Any guesses what their label looked like?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The name is now owned by the folks that make Sam Adams, and apparently the 
>> brand has been re-introduced with essentially the same graphics.  
>> 
>> I can't quite believe that the head badge was designed with no foreknowledge 
>> of the beer brand labels, especially given the beer reference on the bikes' 
>> home page, and a model called Homebrew.  It feels a little disingenuous to 
>> me.  I'd feel better about it if Merry Sales and KE would acknowledge the 
>> connection overtly, but that might run them into some copyright issues with 
>> the folks that own the name in the brewing world.
>> 
>> Bill
>> Stockton, CA
>> 
>>> On Monday, February 17, 2014 at 12:28:35 PM UTC-8, grant wrote:
>>> I swear to God, Allah, Buddha, the Dalai Llama, Bob Dylan, and 
>>> Nebuchadnezzar that I had nothing to do with it. Jim from Merry Sales DID 
>>> email me early art of the badge, and I said hmmm, really...? Was a little 
>>> bummed, but more surprised than bummed, I also know a nd like the badge 
>>> designer, talked to him about it, have made peace with all, and at no point 
>>> did things get even close to ugly. After Jim assured me it was not 
>>> functionally like the Atlantis, no problem. The first one was the red road 
>>> bike. Next, this Betty Foy-ish colored mixte. It's all fine, but Nope, I 
>>> had nothing to do with it.
>>> 
>>> We may come out with our own boodjay bike in a year, but --- that's just a 
>>> rumor at this point.
>>> 
 On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
 http://newalbioncycles.com/
  
 Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
 associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
 Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
> 
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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Brewster Fong]

On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 8:06:05 PM UTC-7, Bill M. wrote:
>
> Ahem.
>
>  
> The New Albion Brewing Company was founded in 1976 in Sonoma, CA, and was 
> the first modern American microbrewery.  
>
 
Actually, it is debatable whether Albion was the *first* modern American 
"microbrewery!"  Anchor Brewery which started in 1849, came out with its 
Anchor Steam Beer in 1971!
 
 http://www.anchorbrewing.com/brewery/our_history
 
 

> Any guesses what their label looked like?
>
> 
> The name is now owned by the folks that make Sam Adams, and apparently the 
> brand has been re-introduced with essentially the same graphics.  
>
> I can't quite believe that the head badge was designed with no 
> foreknowledge of the beer brand labels, especially given the beer reference 
> on the bikes' home page, and a model called Homebrew.  It feels a little 
> disingenuous to me.  I'd feel better about it if Merry Sales and KE would 
> acknowledge the connection overtly, but that might run them into some 
> copyright issues with the folks that own the name in the brewing world.
>
> Bill
> Stockton, CA
>
> On Monday, February 17, 2014 at 12:28:35 PM UTC-8, grant wrote:
>>
>> I swear to God, Allah, Buddha, the Dalai Llama, Bob Dylan, and 
>> Nebuchadnezzar that I had nothing to do with it. Jim from Merry Sales DID 
>> email me early art of the badge, and I said hmmm, really...? Was a little 
>> bummed, but more surprised than bummed, I also know a nd like the badge 
>> designer, talked to him about it, have made peace with all, and at no point 
>> did things get even close to ugly. After Jim assured me it was not 
>> functionally like the Atlantis, no problem. The first one was the red road 
>> bike. Next, this Betty Foy-ish colored mixte. It's all fine, but Nope, I 
>> had nothing to do with it.
>>
>> We may come out with our own boodjay bike in a year, but --- that's just 
>> a rumor at this point.
>>
>> On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>>>
>>> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>>>  
>>> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
>>> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
>>> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[M D Smith]

Sorry to drift this, but both the brewery and, presumably, the bicycles 
were named after "Nova Albion," the name Sir Frances Drake gave to northern 
California upon claiming it for Queen Elizabeth I.  The ship is the Golden 
Hind.  Albion="white" after the cliffs of Dover so New Albion= New England.

I like the connection of ships and bikes.  I often describe my Rivendell to 
the carbon/tri/"training" set as akin to a wooden sailboat ("slowly going 
nowhere, at great expense") while the carbon bikes are more like modern 
speedboats.  I like to wrap my bars with green tape on the starboard and 
red on the larboard 
.  

And (ahem... pardon the self promotion) if anyone wants to know more about 
the brewery and can wait a few months, check 
out 

Cheers- Mike in Htfd, CT



On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 11:06:05 PM UTC-4, Bill M. wrote:

> Ahem.
>
> I don't see Rivendell as the inspiration for the New Albion head badge, 
> and the name is hardly original.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Albion_Brewing_Company
> The New Albion Brewing Company was founded in 1976 in Sonoma, CA, and was 
> the first modern American microbrewery.  
> Any guesses what their label looked like?
>
> 
> The name is now owned by the folks that make Sam Adams, and apparently the 
> brand has been re-introduced with essentially the same graphics.  
>
> I can't quite believe that the head badge was designed with no 
> foreknowledge of the beer brand labels, especially given the beer reference 
> on the bikes' home page, and a model called Homebrew.  It feels a little 
> disingenuous to me.  I'd feel better about it if Merry Sales and KE would 
> acknowledge the connection overtly, but that might run them into some 
> copyright issues with the folks that own the name in the brewing world.
>
> Bill
> Stockton, CA
>
> On Monday, February 17, 2014 at 12:28:35 PM UTC-8, grant wrote:
>>
>> I swear to God, Allah, Buddha, the Dalai Llama, Bob Dylan, and 
>> Nebuchadnezzar that I had nothing to do with it. Jim from Merry Sales DID 
>> email me early art of the badge, and I said hmmm, really...? Was a little 
>> bummed, but more surprised than bummed, I also know a nd like the badge 
>> designer, talked to him about it, have made peace with all, and at no point 
>> did things get even close to ugly. After Jim assured me it was not 
>> functionally like the Atlantis, no problem. The first one was the red road 
>> bike. Next, this Betty Foy-ish colored mixte. It's all fine, but Nope, I 
>> had nothing to do with it.
>>
>> We may come out with our own boodjay bike in a year, but --- that's just 
>> a rumor at this point.
>>
>> On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>>>
>>> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>>>  
>>> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
>>> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
>>> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Bill M.]

Ahem.

I don't see Rivendell as the inspiration for the New Albion head badge, and 
the name is hardly original.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Albion_Brewing_Company
The New Albion Brewing Company was founded in 1976 in Sonoma, CA, and was 
the first modern American microbrewery.  
Any guesses what their label looked like?


The name is now owned by the folks that make Sam Adams, and apparently the 
brand has been re-introduced with essentially the same graphics.  

I can't quite believe that the head badge was designed with no 
foreknowledge of the beer brand labels, especially given the beer reference 
on the bikes' home page, and a model called Homebrew.  It feels a little 
disingenuous to me.  I'd feel better about it if Merry Sales and KE would 
acknowledge the connection overtly, but that might run them into some 
copyright issues with the folks that own the name in the brewing world.

Bill
Stockton, CA

On Monday, February 17, 2014 at 12:28:35 PM UTC-8, grant wrote:
>
> I swear to God, Allah, Buddha, the Dalai Llama, Bob Dylan, and 
> Nebuchadnezzar that I had nothing to do with it. Jim from Merry Sales DID 
> email me early art of the badge, and I said hmmm, really...? Was a little 
> bummed, but more surprised than bummed, I also know a nd like the badge 
> designer, talked to him about it, have made peace with all, and at no point 
> did things get even close to ugly. After Jim assured me it was not 
> functionally like the Atlantis, no problem. The first one was the red road 
> bike. Next, this Betty Foy-ish colored mixte. It's all fine, but Nope, I 
> had nothing to do with it.
>
> We may come out with our own boodjay bike in a year, but --- that's just a 
> rumor at this point.
>
> On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>>
>> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>>  
>> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
>> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
>> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Surlyprof]

SOMA describes New Albion as a sister company.  This was on the Somafab 
blog (posted October 9, 2014 by Evan Baird):

*Lauching our sister company New Albion Cycles was one of the most exciting 
projects I've had the pleasure to be a part of. From designing the head 
badge, to building the first Homebrew, it's been a real education. I think 
the Privateer is the very best value in a steel frameset on the market 
today, and I'm incredibly proud to have had a hand in it's development.*





On Friday, February 14, 2014 at 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:

> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Rob H.]

Can anyone confirm the headset/fork situation for the Starling mixte? The New 
Albion website says it is 1" but does not say whether it is threaded or 
threadless. From the looks of the photos I've seen on the www it is threadless, 
not a quill stem, that is coming out of the headset. 

So is it a 1" threadless or 1-1/8" threadless? Can anyone say for certain?

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Rob H.]

Can anyone confirm the headset/fork situation? The New Albion website says it 
is 1" but does not say whether it is threaded or threadless. From the looks of 
the photo it is threadless, not a quill stem, that is coming out of the 
headset. 

So is it a 1" threadless or 1-1/8" threadless?

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Steve Palincsar]

On 02/18/2014 03:57 PM, eflayer wrote:
I hope it rides nearly as good as it looks. I think the aesthetics are 
a bit mind blowing in the positive direction. Hope not lipstick on the 
proverbial pig.


I look forward to your report on it, once you have it built up.

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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[eflayer]

I hope it rides nearly as good as it looks. I think the aesthetics are a 
bit mind blowing in the positive direction. Hope not lipstick on the 
proverbial pig.
On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>
> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Peter Morgano]

I mean that is a screaming deal for what it is, report back as I am sure
there are many people who want an inexpensive option, even if they do have
a Rivendell. Just looking at the construction quality and the price I don't
think this eats into the Rivendell market as much as the VO market, but
just my way of seeing things.


On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Good luck with your Privateer!  Plenty of us care about weight.  Some care
> a little, some care a lot.  Some only care sometimes.
>
> On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:01:19 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>>
>> Ordered Privateer on Friday, arrived today from bikemania.biz. Size
>> 60cm, frame weighs 5lb, 8oz. Steel cross fork, 350mm steerer, weighs 2lb,
>> 8oz. I know noone cares about weight. Waiting for parts to arrive.
>> On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>>>
>>> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>>>
>>> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be
>>> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from
>>> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Bill Lindsay]

Good luck with your Privateer!  Plenty of us care about weight.  Some care 
a little, some care a lot.  Some only care sometimes.  

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:01:19 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>
> Ordered Privateer on Friday, arrived today from bikemania.biz. Size 60cm, 
> frame weighs 5lb, 8oz. Steel cross fork, 350mm steerer, weighs 2lb, 8oz. I 
> know noone cares about weight. Waiting for parts to arrive.
> On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>>
>> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>>  
>> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
>> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
>> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>>
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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

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Ordered Privateer on Friday, arrived today from bikemania.biz. Size 60cm, 
frame weighs 5lb, 8oz. Steel cross fork, 350mm steerer, weighs 2lb, 8oz. I 
know noone cares about weight. Waiting for parts to arrive.
On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>
> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[eflayer]

I was in my local shop today and they had a built Soma Saga bike. Yes it is 
tigged, but the welds were as smooth as any tigs I have ever seen. A fine 
looker. I took a short test ride and liked it a lot. But I think/hope the 
Privateer will suit my non-touring needs even better. I love the lugs, but 
for this town bike, tigs should be just fine.
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>
> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[dougP]

See?  Those French classes paid off. :-).  I think you've got it.

The idea of a "budget Rivendell" crops up from time to time, but those 
beautiful lugs we all love just can't be done at the price of a TIG welded 
frame.

dougP

On Monday, February 17, 2014 1:13:53 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>
> Grant needs to provide a translation ap. Me thinks budjaay = budget?
> On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>>
>> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>>  
>> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
>> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
>> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>>
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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Evan Baird]

Don't compare New Albion to Rivendell. They're really not in the same league. 
Feel free to compare them to Surly, VO, Public and the like though.

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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Chris Lampe 2]

Does the rumor mill include what current Riv model this new bike might be 
most like? 

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>
> I swear to God, Allah, Buddha, the Dalai Llama, Bob Dylan, and 
> Nebuchadnezzar that I had nothing to do with it. Jim from Merry Sales DID 
> email me early art of the badge, and I said hmmm, really...? Was a little 
> bummed, but more surprised than bummed, I also know a nd like the badge 
> designer, talked to him about it, have made peace with all, and at no point 
> did things get even close to ugly. After Jim assured me it was not 
> functionally like the Atlantis, no problem. The first one was the red road 
> bike. Next, this Betty Foy-ish colored mixte. It's all fine, but Nope, I 
> had nothing to do with it.
>
> We may come out with our own boodjay bike in a year, but --- that's just a 
> rumor at this point.
>
> On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>>
>> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>>  
>> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
>> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
>> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>>
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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[eflayer]

Grant needs to provide a translation ap. Me thinks budjaay = budget?
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Steve Palincsar]

On 02/17/2014 03:28 PM, grant wrote:


We may come out with our own boodjay bike in a year, but --- that's 
just a rumor at this point.


What is "boodjay"???


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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[grant]

I swear to God, Allah, Buddha, the Dalai Llama, Bob Dylan, and 
Nebuchadnezzar that I had nothing to do with it. Jim from Merry Sales DID 
email me early art of the badge, and I said hmmm, really...? Was a little 
bummed, but more surprised than bummed, I also know a nd like the badge 
designer, talked to him about it, have made peace with all, and at no point 
did things get even close to ugly. After Jim assured me it was not 
functionally like the Atlantis, no problem. The first one was the red road 
bike. Next, this Betty Foy-ish colored mixte. It's all fine, but Nope, I 
had nothing to do with it.

We may come out with our own boodjay bike in a year, but --- that's just a 
rumor at this point.

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>
> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[eflayer]

Merry Sales says Privateer is all Infinity, butted main tubes, cromo in the 
stays.
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> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
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> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Chris Lampe 2]

The highest level frame is listed as "cro-mo main tubes" which to me 
suggests hi-ten stays.  When you add the Soma fork the combined price ends 
up being $420not much less than a Surly frameset.  Also, I think anyone 
who is willing to build a bike from the frame up is probably an enthusiast 
and I can't imagine an enthusiast settling for hi-ten in any part of the 
frame.  At the price-point, I just can't see who they are marketing to.  

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>
> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[dougP]

It could work for someone who wants a comfortable, entry level bike.  One's 
first bike is rarely one's last.  

Don't know about recommendations.  Especially a first bike should be 
ridden, compared, pondered a bit.  

dougP

On Sunday, February 16, 2014 7:43:47 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Then I wouldn't recommend it :-)
>
> I was guessing the price-point based on that of my default bike 
> recommendation for cheap newbies: 
> http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/tourist.htm 
>
> Seems like it's a lower end build than the that, so couldn't imagine it 
> would be more.
>
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Steve Palincsar 
> > wrote:
>
>> On 02/16/2014 08:49 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>>
>>> Remember, this is for someone that wants really, really cheap. What 
>>> other steel road bikes all there for less that $500?
>>>
>>
>> What leads you to believe the New Albion Homebrew complete bicycle is 
>> less than $500?   Phattire.com says list is $1,099.00 but they're selling 
>> it for$949.00 -- a far cry from "less than $500."
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[cyclotourist]

Then I wouldn't recommend it :-)

I was guessing the price-point based on that of my default bike
recommendation for cheap newbies:
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/tourist.htm

Seems like it's a lower end build than the that, so couldn't imagine it
would be more.


Cheers,
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> On 02/16/2014 08:49 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
>> Remember, this is for someone that wants really, really cheap. What other
>> steel road bikes all there for less that $500?
>>
>
> What leads you to believe the New Albion Homebrew complete bicycle is less
> than $500?   Phattire.com says list is $1,099.00 but they're selling it
> for$949.00 -- a far cry from "less than $500."
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[J L]

These bikes are probably good enough for the people who end up buying
them.  They don't interest me.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Steve Palincsar]

On 02/16/2014 08:49 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
Remember, this is for someone that wants really, really cheap. What 
other steel road bikes all there for less that $500?


What leads you to believe the New Albion Homebrew complete bicycle is 
less than $500?   Phattire.com says list is $1,099.00 but they're 
selling it for$949.00 -- a far cry from "less than $500."



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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[cyclotourist]

Remember, this is for someone that wants really, really cheap. What other
steel road bikes all there for less that $500?

Cheers,
David

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On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Elisabeth Sherwood <
elisabeth.sherw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Isn't anyone else reacting with a "boy, that looks really, really cheap"?
>  Other than the headbadge and a level top-tube, I'm not seeing anything
> compelling. I find it weird that the same people that own Soma would put
> together something like this.
>
> (Unrelated to this particular bicycle, I tend to point friends who ask
> "what kind of bicycle should I get?" to a nice, versatile hybrid like the
> Jamis Coda or Trek 7.3FX -- something that they'll be able to ride -- and
> enjoy riding -- anywhere and everywhere. Well, if I think that's the right
> bike for them, of course.)
>
> -- Liz S.
> Washington, DC
>
>
> On Sunday, February 16, 2014 11:29:17 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The Homebrew might just be the go-to bike for when friends ask you "What
>> kind of a bike should I get? I don't want to spend a lot of money..."
>> It's still probably going to be more than they want to spend (usually
>> less than $300), but a real nice alternative to low-end 'eks and 'izeds.
>> http://newalbioncycles.com/homebrew-road-bike/
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David
>>
>> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for that Justin...fun to read the process. If I wasn't already
>>> maxed on bike projects I'd build one of these bikes up just for the head
>>> badge.
>>>
>>>  ~Hugh
>>>
>>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>>> moving." -- Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:58 AM,  wrote:
>>>
  Head badge article: http://karledwards.com/blog/
 process-of-process-the-new-albion-cycles-badge/

 They look nice. I'm surprised they aren't just marketed as SOMA though.

 -J

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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[eflayer]

The Privateer is available on the Soma store website and it tells you which 
fork to buy:
 
http://store.somafab.com/newalprfr.html
On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:

> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Hugh Smitham]

Awesome! I think it looks like a good bike. When you get it post some
pictures and congrats.

~Hugh

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moving." -- Albert Einstein

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On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 2:48 PM, eflayer  wrote:

> I ordered a Privateer. Time will tell.
>
> On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>>
>> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>>
>> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be
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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[eflayer]

I wonder if this new brand is meant to distinguish bikes made with better 
Tange Prestige vs the Tange Infinity used in these new models?
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>
> http://newalbioncycles.com/
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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[eflayer]

I ordered a Privateer. Time will tell.
On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>
> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Steve Palincsar]

On 02/16/2014 05:38 PM, Mike Schiller wrote:
The Privateer model is double butted Tange CrMo and fits 38 mm tires. 
That seems to be the better frameset.


At the risk of belaboring the point, it's not a frameset, it's a frame 
w/o a fork.  Yes, Merry Sales does sell a bunch of forks. Good luck 
figuring out which one goes with that frame, because it's not at all 
obvious.



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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Mike Schiller]

The Privateer model is double butted Tange CrMo and fits 38 mm tires. That 
seems to be the better frameset.

~mike
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Chris Lampe 2]

I feel the same way.  I soon as I saw 'hi-ten', my interest was lost.

On Sunday, February 16, 2014 10:46:19 AM UTC-6, Elisabeth Sherwood wrote:
>
> Isn't anyone else reacting with a "boy, that looks really, really cheap"? 
>  Other than the headbadge and a level top-tube, I'm not seeing anything 
> compelling. I find it weird that the same people that own Soma would put 
> together something like this.
>
> (Unrelated to this particular bicycle, I tend to point friends who ask 
> "what kind of bicycle should I get?" to a nice, versatile hybrid like the 
> Jamis Coda or Trek 7.3FX -- something that they'll be able to ride -- and 
> enjoy riding -- anywhere and everywhere. Well, if I think that's the right 
> bike for them, of course.)
>
> -- Liz S.
> Washington, DC
>
> On Sunday, February 16, 2014 11:29:17 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> The Homebrew might just be the go-to bike for when friends ask you "What 
>> kind of a bike should I get? I don't want to spend a lot of money..."
>> It's still probably going to be more than they want to spend (usually 
>> less than $300), but a real nice alternative to low-end 'eks and 'izeds. 
>> http://newalbioncycles.com/homebrew-road-bike/
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David
>>
>> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for that Justin...fun to read the process. If I wasn't already 
>>> maxed on bike projects I'd build one of these bikes up just for the head 
>>> badge.
>>>
>>>  ~Hugh
>>>
>>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
>>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:58 AM,  wrote:
>>>
  Head badge article: 
 http://karledwards.com/blog/process-of-process-the-new-albion-cycles-badge/

 They look nice. I'm surprised they aren't just marketed as SOMA though.

 -J

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Elisabeth Sherwood]

Isn't anyone else reacting with a "boy, that looks really, really cheap"? 
 Other than the headbadge and a level top-tube, I'm not seeing anything 
compelling. I find it weird that the same people that own Soma would put 
together something like this.

(Unrelated to this particular bicycle, I tend to point friends who ask 
"what kind of bicycle should I get?" to a nice, versatile hybrid like the 
Jamis Coda or Trek 7.3FX -- something that they'll be able to ride -- and 
enjoy riding -- anywhere and everywhere. Well, if I think that's the right 
bike for them, of course.)

-- Liz S.
Washington, DC

On Sunday, February 16, 2014 11:29:17 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> The Homebrew might just be the go-to bike for when friends ask you "What 
> kind of a bike should I get? I don't want to spend a lot of money..."
> It's still probably going to be more than they want to spend (usually less 
> than $300), but a real nice alternative to low-end 'eks and 'izeds. 
> http://newalbioncycles.com/homebrew-road-bike/
>
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Hugh Smitham 
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks for that Justin...fun to read the process. If I wasn't already 
>> maxed on bike projects I'd build one of these bikes up just for the head 
>> badge.
>>
>>  ~Hugh
>>
>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>
>> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:58 AM, >wrote:
>>
>>>  Head badge article: 
>>> http://karledwards.com/blog/process-of-process-the-new-albion-cycles-badge/
>>>
>>> They look nice. I'm surprised they aren't just marketed as SOMA though.
>>>
>>> -J
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Hugh Smitham]

That's a really good point. There are so many good low priced alternatives
out there these days and if patience is your thing CL. But yeah more choice
is a good thing. And that head badge rocks!

~Hugh

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On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:29 AM, cyclotourist wrote:

> The Homebrew might just be the go-to bike for when friends ask you "What
> kind of a bike should I get? I don't want to spend a lot of money..."
> It's still probably going to be more than they want to spend (usually less
> than $300), but a real nice alternative to low-end 'eks and 'izeds.
> http://newalbioncycles.com/homebrew-road-bike/
>
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Thanks for that Justin...fun to read the process. If I wasn't already
>> maxed on bike projects I'd build one of these bikes up just for the head
>> badge.
>>
>>  ~Hugh
>>
>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>> moving." -- Albert Einstein
>>
>> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:58 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>>  Head badge article:
>>> http://karledwards.com/blog/process-of-process-the-new-albion-cycles-badge/
>>>
>>> They look nice. I'm surprised they aren't just marketed as SOMA though.
>>>
>>> -J
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[cyclotourist]

The Homebrew might just be the go-to bike for when friends ask you "What
kind of a bike should I get? I don't want to spend a lot of money..."
It's still probably going to be more than they want to spend (usually less
than $300), but a real nice alternative to low-end 'eks and 'izeds.
http://newalbioncycles.com/homebrew-road-bike/


Cheers,
David

"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal





On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> Thanks for that Justin...fun to read the process. If I wasn't already
> maxed on bike projects I'd build one of these bikes up just for the head
> badge.
>
> ~Hugh
>
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
> moving." -- Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:58 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Head badge article:
>> http://karledwards.com/blog/process-of-process-the-new-albion-cycles-badge/
>>
>> They look nice. I'm surprised they aren't just marketed as SOMA though.
>>
>> -J
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Hugh Smitham]

Thanks for that Justin...fun to read the process. If I wasn't already maxed
on bike projects I'd build one of these bikes up just for the head badge.

~Hugh

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moving." -- Albert Einstein

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> Head badge article:
> http://karledwards.com/blog/process-of-process-the-new-albion-cycles-badge/
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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

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Head badge article: 
http://karledwards.com/blog/process-of-process-the-new-albion-cycles-badge/

They look nice. I'm surprised they aren't just marketed as SOMA though. 

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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Cecily Walker]

Sure wish I could find consistent pricing information on these bikes. I do 
like that mixte.

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>
> Gosh, the mixte frame looks quite similar to some of RBW's previous mixte 
> frames... I'm not a historian of frame design, but the curves on the middle 
> stays look 'bout identical to the stays on the Glorius.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Bill]

The headbadge looks very similar to that of the Atlantis.  Either Grant 
very closely collaborated with them, maybe as an outside consultant, or 
they are big enough to simply go it alone.  It would nice to know more 
about who is behind this.

On Friday, February 14, 2014 10:40:06 PM UTC-5, eflayer wrote:
>
> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Bruce Herbitter]

yet another esoteric bit of Elvish lore, I suppose. In a few years, the 
new arrivals will whisper that once upon a time you could order a lugged 
steel Rivendell fork.



On 2/15/2014 12:29 PM, eflayer wrote:
Me thinks Carbonnomas esta no mas. Not on the Riv site where I could 
find it.




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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[eflayer]

Me thinks Carbonnomas esta no mas. Not on the Riv site where I could find 
it.
On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>
> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
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> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

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On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>
> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Bruce Herbitter]

Or you could order a Carbonomas and get some real Rivyness...

On 2/15/2014 11:53 AM, Hugh Smitham wrote:
Steve Soma has you pick/ purchase the fork  separately here, 
http://store.somafab.com/forks.html


cost for frame & fork $ 458.99.

~Hugh

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moving." -- Albert Einstein


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On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Steve Palincsar > wrote:


On 02/15/2014 09:05 AM, eflayer wrote:

one more thing. If you look here:
http://store.somafab.com/newalprfr.html
The Privateer might already be for sale. Could this pricing be
correct? $279.


But no fork.



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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Hugh Smitham]

Steve Soma has you pick/ purchase the fork  separately here,  http://store.
somafab.com/forks.html

cost for frame & fork $ 458.99.

~Hugh

"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving." -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> On 02/15/2014 09:05 AM, eflayer wrote:
>
>> one more thing. If you look here:
>> http://store.somafab.com/newalprfr.html
>> The Privateer might already be for sale. Could this pricing be correct?
>> $279.
>>
>
> But no fork.
>
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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[BSWP]

Gosh, the mixte frame looks quite similar to some of RBW's previous mixte 
frames... I'm not a historian of frame design, but the curves on the middle 
stays look 'bout identical to the stays on the Glorius.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Mike Schiller]

not sure if there is any Riv connection, but some background is listed 
here.  http://karledwards.com/bicycle/new-albion-soma/
I recall seeing this a year ago.  

The frames look nice for low priced items. 

~mike

On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>
> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Ron Mc]

My guess is they've asked for more designs from Grant - while we're at it, 
can we borrow the Atlantis head tube badge?  

On Saturday, February 15, 2014 8:24:36 AM UTC-6, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> From the Soma site: "Tange Infinity double butted CrMo steel main tubes" 
> On 2/15/2014 8:05 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: 
> > On 02/15/2014 08:56 AM, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: 
> >> It's always nice to see a new line of cro-moly bikes enter the market. 
> > 
> > At least one, the red complete bike, is described as being made from 
> > hi-ten steel, which we all know and love as "gas pipe." 
> > 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Bruce Herbitter]

From the Soma site: "Tange Infinity double butted CrMo steel main tubes"
On 2/15/2014 8:05 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote:

On 02/15/2014 08:56 AM, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:

It's always nice to see a new line of cro-moly bikes enter the market.


At least one, the red complete bike, is described as being made from 
hi-ten steel, which we all know and love as "gas pipe."




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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Chris Lampe 2]

Wow.   I didn't look at that one because road bikes aren't my thing.  Not 
sure what to say.  Selling a hi-ten bike with even one lug and a 
headbadge..doesn't make a lot of sense to me.  

On Saturday, February 15, 2014 8:05:00 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On 02/15/2014 08:56 AM, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: 
> > It's always nice to see a new line of cro-moly bikes enter the market. 
>
> At least one, the red complete bike, is described as being made from 
> hi-ten steel, which we all know and love as "gas pipe." 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Steve Palincsar]

On 02/15/2014 09:05 AM, eflayer wrote:

one more thing. If you look here:
http://store.somafab.com/newalprfr.html
The Privateer might already be for sale. Could this pricing be 
correct? $279.


But no fork.


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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Steve Palincsar]

On 02/15/2014 08:56 AM, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:

It's always nice to see a new line of cro-moly bikes enter the market.


At least one, the red complete bike, is described as being made from 
hi-ten steel, which we all know and love as "gas pipe."


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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[eflayer]

one more thing. If you look here:
 
http://store.somafab.com/newalprfr.html
 
The Privateer might already be for sale. Could this pricing be correct? 
$279.
On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:

> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>

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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[eflayer]

Paint and decals and head badge seem to have Grant's fingerprints on em.
On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>
> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>

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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Chris Lampe 2]

It's always nice to see a new line of cro-moly bikes enter the market. 
 With the growing interest and participation in adventure bike riding, I 
don't understand why all of these companies limit the tire clearance on 
their tourers to 40'ish mm.   From reading various forums there is a market 
for traditional diamond frame bicycles that will take 29'er tires.  RBW's 
Hunqapillar is the one I'm most familiar with and Velo-Orange is coming out 
with their Camargue in May, which I plan to purchase.   That's about it as 
far as mainstream brands and I'm not even sure there are many smaller 
brands selling bikes like this. 



On Friday, February 14, 2014 9:40:06 PM UTC-6, eflayer wrote:
>
> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>

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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[ascpgh]

I saw two things right off that made me think the same. The headbadge and 
the style of the midstay on the Starling frame; that little upturn a few 
inches before the dropout. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Friday, February 14, 2014 10:40:06 PM UTC-5, eflayer wrote:
>
> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>

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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[hsmitham]

Already had a stout and misspelled my name. Doh.

On Friday, February 14, 2014 10:41:57 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>
> On first look I immediately liked the head badge. Makes me want to drink a 
> stout.
>
> ~Hugh "going to the fridge for one" Smitam
>
> On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>>
>> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>>  
>> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
>> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
>> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[hsmitham]

On first look I immediately liked the head badge. Makes me want to drink a 
stout.

~Hugh "going to the fridge for one" Smitam

On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>
> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>  
> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>

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