[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-27 Thread Mike S
I too was torn between the mini-front and the two-strut top rack, but
I ultimately went with the mini-front on my Quickbeam. I think the
main point that sold me on the mini-front was the aforementioned
brazing of the stays, as opposed to the bolt-on style of the top rack.
The mini-front also appeals to me more aesthetically than the TR, as
it's basically hidden underneath my Wald basket.

I initially pushed the mini-front to the limit by lugging around a
20-25 lb backpack on it in a basket, but because the backpack blocks
my handlebar-mounted headlight, and because Mark @ Riv said this was a
bad idea, I just wear the backpack when I have stupendous loads. For
my normal commuting routine, however, a medium wald basket w. medium
shopsack loaded up works great. It seems one can carry 10-15 lbs. on a
mini-front with no problem, though I don't know what the 'official'
suggested load is. From what I remember, Nitto tends to be very
conservative with the max #s, so perhaps it's ok to push it...

On Jan 27, 1:40 am, Brian Hanson  wrote:
> I've got the Honjo 45s on my Hilsen 700c.  They are long, and I have them
> back a bit more than yours.  No problems - just watch the curb drops - pull
> up on the bars a bit...
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/sets/72157625750853504/with/532...
>
> Brian
> Seattle
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Ad Noyce  wrote:
> > Thanks all for the encouraging words.  To answer some of these questions:
>
> > @ Thomas: the cream head tube is not standard.  I knew from the beginning
> > it was an extra expense that I was going to spring for.  Riv luckily had an
> > unpainted 48cm frame in stock which knocked down the price a little...
>
> > So yes, those are Honjos, and they are extra long.  Whaddya think?  Does it
> > look funny?  It's possible they were meant to be extra long on 700c tires
> > (mine are 650B).  Are there any guiding principles on how much coverage
> > fenders should provide, etc?  I did a lot of flickr searching and these are
> > possibly the longest I've seen.  Although if you look at Jan Heine's
> > randonneurs from an online sample page of Bicycle Quarterly or in the
> > Reader, his are pretty long too.
>
> > @ William: yes, I may just use some spacers in there...I'm a little
> > clueless about what makes a good fender line other than just eyeballing it
> > but I am game for making the right tweaks if anyone has suggestions...
>
> > @ Minh: yes, I've got the fender mounted to both the Nitto platform and I'm
> > also using the fork crown daruma.
>
> > Hope these comments are helpful--
>
> > Best,
> > Adam
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-26 Thread Brian Hanson
I've got the Honjo 45s on my Hilsen 700c.  They are long, and I have them
back a bit more than yours.  No problems - just watch the curb drops - pull
up on the bars a bit...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/sets/72157625750853504/with/5326051940/

Brian
Seattle


On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Ad Noyce  wrote:

> Thanks all for the encouraging words.  To answer some of these questions:
>
> @ Thomas: the cream head tube is not standard.  I knew from the beginning
> it was an extra expense that I was going to spring for.  Riv luckily had an
> unpainted 48cm frame in stock which knocked down the price a little...
>
> So yes, those are Honjos, and they are extra long.  Whaddya think?  Does it
> look funny?  It's possible they were meant to be extra long on 700c tires
> (mine are 650B).  Are there any guiding principles on how much coverage
> fenders should provide, etc?  I did a lot of flickr searching and these are
> possibly the longest I've seen.  Although if you look at Jan Heine's
> randonneurs from an online sample page of Bicycle Quarterly or in the
> Reader, his are pretty long too.
>
> @ William: yes, I may just use some spacers in there...I'm a little
> clueless about what makes a good fender line other than just eyeballing it
> but I am game for making the right tweaks if anyone has suggestions...
>
> @ Minh: yes, I've got the fender mounted to both the Nitto platform and I'm
> also using the fork crown daruma.
>
> Hope these comments are helpful--
>
> Best,
> Adam
>
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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-26 Thread Ad Noyce
Thanks all for the encouraging words.  To answer some of these questions:

@ Thomas: the cream head tube is not standard.  I knew from the beginning it 
was an extra expense that I was going to spring for.  Riv luckily had an 
unpainted 48cm frame in stock which knocked down the price a little...

So yes, those are Honjos, and they are extra long.  Whaddya think?  Does it 
look funny?  It's possible they were meant to be extra long on 700c tires 
(mine are 650B).  Are there any guiding principles on how much coverage 
fenders should provide, etc?  I did a lot of flickr searching and these are 
possibly the longest I've seen.  Although if you look at Jan Heine's 
randonneurs from an online sample page of Bicycle Quarterly or in the 
Reader, his are pretty long too.

@ William: yes, I may just use some spacers in there...I'm a little clueless 
about what makes a good fender line other than just eyeballing it but I am 
game for making the right tweaks if anyone has suggestions...

@ Minh: yes, I've got the fender mounted to both the Nitto platform and I'm 
also using the fork crown daruma. 

Hope these comments are helpful--

Best,
Adam

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-26 Thread Minh
I find this an interesting approach, do you also have it attached to
the fork crown using the daruma or a tab?

On Jan 26, 2:41 pm, William  wrote:
> Ad Noyce does have the fender attached to the Nitto Mini.  It's the
> next photo in the set:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/26905387@N04/5388125197/in/photostream/
>
> On Jan 26, 8:09 am, Thomas Lynn Skean 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Very nice setup.
>
> > Historically I have tended to have more cargo weight in the rear than
> > in the front on my bike. However, lately I've been mixing it up more.
> > And sometimes going with heavy front weighting.
>
> > One thing I've been very pleased about is that the Hillborne just
> > plain doesn't seem to care a lot about how I ride it, including where
> > the weight is. Yeah, I can tell when I have a loaded BarSack on my
> > handlebars which are a couple inches above my saddle. And I can tell
> > when I have panniers and a stuffed SaddleSack Medium. And I can tell
> > when I have a ShopSack Large in back and a ShopSack Medium in front,
> > both in baskets.
>
> > But the Hillborne is a Country Bike. It deals. So it is appropriate
> > here to apply what seems an oft-invoked-by-Mr.-Petersen principle:
> > It's different. It's fine. You get used to it in about 10 minutes /
> > miles / shifts / rides / what-have-you.
>
> > Couple questions:
>
> > Is that a standard Hillborne paint job? I've seen several with a
> > contrasting head tube in photos but more often see them with same-
> > color head tubes. It looks really good.
>
> > Those are some *long* fenders. Are those Honjos? Is *that* how long
> > Honjo fenders just are?
>
> > Yours,
> > Thomas Lynn Skean
>
> > On Jan 26, 1:14 am, Ad Noyce  wrote:
>
> > > Hey all,
>
> > > Thanks for the input on front racks.  My setup now includes a mini front
> > > rack for the loafer and fenders:
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/26905387@N04/5388732538/in/photostream/
>
> > > Thanks gang,
> > > Adam
>
> > > On Monday, January 10, 2011 9:10:43 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> > > > Tubus are indeed fine racks... My only gripe with my Tubus Logo was
> > > > that the top (main) platform was very narrow, compared to the Nitto
> > > > Big Rack.  Anything I put on the Logo seemed tippy, and unstable.  I
> > > > don't understand where Tubus is coming from with this design; in fact
> > > > I believe you build the rack platform to be as wide as possible
> > > > without it becoming heavy or unwieldy.
>
> > > > On Jan 10, 10:14 am, hobie  wrote:
> > > > > Don't forget Tubus in stainless still. Tubus might be stronger or more
> > > > > rigid.
>
> > > > > On Jan 7, 1:54 am, Adam  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Thought I'd use the rebate to throw on a front rack...
>
> > > > > > Could anyone speak to whether the Nitto Two-Strut Top Rack is
> > > > > > compatible with canti brakes?
>
> > > > > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-two-strut-top-rack/20-190
>
> > > > > > I was planning to sit the small loafer up front...so then any reason
> > > > > > I'd choose the Two-Strut, which seems to manage a good amount of
> > > > > > weight,  v. the Mini Front Rack, which handles a smaller load and 
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > one strut?
>
> > > > > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/mini-front-nitto/20-020
>
> > > > > > Concerned about weight in the front, especially when I'm on longish
> > > > > > rides--frequent biking in the Oakland and Berkeley hills and it can 
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > plenty windy.
>
> > > > > > Any thoughts appreciated--
>
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > Adam- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-26 Thread William
Ad Noyce does have the fender attached to the Nitto Mini.  It's the
next photo in the set:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26905387@N04/5388125197/in/photostream/



On Jan 26, 8:09 am, Thomas Lynn Skean 
wrote:
> Very nice setup.
>
> Historically I have tended to have more cargo weight in the rear than
> in the front on my bike. However, lately I've been mixing it up more.
> And sometimes going with heavy front weighting.
>
> One thing I've been very pleased about is that the Hillborne just
> plain doesn't seem to care a lot about how I ride it, including where
> the weight is. Yeah, I can tell when I have a loaded BarSack on my
> handlebars which are a couple inches above my saddle. And I can tell
> when I have panniers and a stuffed SaddleSack Medium. And I can tell
> when I have a ShopSack Large in back and a ShopSack Medium in front,
> both in baskets.
>
> But the Hillborne is a Country Bike. It deals. So it is appropriate
> here to apply what seems an oft-invoked-by-Mr.-Petersen principle:
> It's different. It's fine. You get used to it in about 10 minutes /
> miles / shifts / rides / what-have-you.
>
> Couple questions:
>
> Is that a standard Hillborne paint job? I've seen several with a
> contrasting head tube in photos but more often see them with same-
> color head tubes. It looks really good.
>
> Those are some *long* fenders. Are those Honjos? Is *that* how long
> Honjo fenders just are?
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
>
> On Jan 26, 1:14 am, Ad Noyce  wrote:
>
> > Hey all,
>
> > Thanks for the input on front racks.  My setup now includes a mini front
> > rack for the loafer and fenders:
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/26905387@N04/5388732538/in/photostream/
>
> > Thanks gang,
> > Adam
>
> > On Monday, January 10, 2011 9:10:43 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> > > Tubus are indeed fine racks... My only gripe with my Tubus Logo was
> > > that the top (main) platform was very narrow, compared to the Nitto
> > > Big Rack.  Anything I put on the Logo seemed tippy, and unstable.  I
> > > don't understand where Tubus is coming from with this design; in fact
> > > I believe you build the rack platform to be as wide as possible
> > > without it becoming heavy or unwieldy.
>
> > > On Jan 10, 10:14 am, hobie  wrote:
> > > > Don't forget Tubus in stainless still. Tubus might be stronger or more
> > > > rigid.
>
> > > > On Jan 7, 1:54 am, Adam  wrote:
>
> > > > > Thought I'd use the rebate to throw on a front rack...
>
> > > > > Could anyone speak to whether the Nitto Two-Strut Top Rack is
> > > > > compatible with canti brakes?
>
> > > > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-two-strut-top-rack/20-190
>
> > > > > I was planning to sit the small loafer up front...so then any reason
> > > > > I'd choose the Two-Strut, which seems to manage a good amount of
> > > > > weight,  v. the Mini Front Rack, which handles a smaller load and has
> > > > > one strut?
>
> > > > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/mini-front-nitto/20-020
>
> > > > > Concerned about weight in the front, especially when I'm on longish
> > > > > rides--frequent biking in the Oakland and Berkeley hills and it can be
> > > > > plenty windy.
>
> > > > > Any thoughts appreciated--
>
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Adam- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-26 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Very nice setup.

Historically I have tended to have more cargo weight in the rear than
in the front on my bike. However, lately I've been mixing it up more.
And sometimes going with heavy front weighting.

One thing I've been very pleased about is that the Hillborne just
plain doesn't seem to care a lot about how I ride it, including where
the weight is. Yeah, I can tell when I have a loaded BarSack on my
handlebars which are a couple inches above my saddle. And I can tell
when I have panniers and a stuffed SaddleSack Medium. And I can tell
when I have a ShopSack Large in back and a ShopSack Medium in front,
both in baskets.

But the Hillborne is a Country Bike. It deals. So it is appropriate
here to apply what seems an oft-invoked-by-Mr.-Petersen principle:
It's different. It's fine. You get used to it in about 10 minutes /
miles / shifts / rides / what-have-you.

Couple questions:

Is that a standard Hillborne paint job? I've seen several with a
contrasting head tube in photos but more often see them with same-
color head tubes. It looks really good.

Those are some *long* fenders. Are those Honjos? Is *that* how long
Honjo fenders just are?

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Jan 26, 1:14 am, Ad Noyce  wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Thanks for the input on front racks.  My setup now includes a mini front
> rack for the loafer and fenders:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/26905387@N04/5388732538/in/photostream/
>
> Thanks gang,
> Adam
>
> On Monday, January 10, 2011 9:10:43 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> > Tubus are indeed fine racks... My only gripe with my Tubus Logo was
> > that the top (main) platform was very narrow, compared to the Nitto
> > Big Rack.  Anything I put on the Logo seemed tippy, and unstable.  I
> > don't understand where Tubus is coming from with this design; in fact
> > I believe you build the rack platform to be as wide as possible
> > without it becoming heavy or unwieldy.
>
> > On Jan 10, 10:14 am, hobie  wrote:
> > > Don't forget Tubus in stainless still. Tubus might be stronger or more
> > > rigid.
>
> > > On Jan 7, 1:54 am, Adam  wrote:
>
> > > > Thought I'd use the rebate to throw on a front rack...
>
> > > > Could anyone speak to whether the Nitto Two-Strut Top Rack is
> > > > compatible with canti brakes?
>
> > > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-two-strut-top-rack/20-190
>
> > > > I was planning to sit the small loafer up front...so then any reason
> > > > I'd choose the Two-Strut, which seems to manage a good amount of
> > > > weight,  v. the Mini Front Rack, which handles a smaller load and has
> > > > one strut?
>
> > > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/mini-front-nitto/20-020
>
> > > > Concerned about weight in the front, especially when I'm on longish
> > > > rides--frequent biking in the Oakland and Berkeley hills and it can be
> > > > plenty windy.
>
> > > > Any thoughts appreciated--
>
> > > > Best,
> > > > Adam- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-26 Thread Mike
Yet another quintessential Rivendell! Beautiful set-up Adam. Glad you
went with the Nitto rack. I love and trust Nitto products. I feel
they're worth the cost.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-26 Thread William
jsk

The Nitto Mini Front does have a threaded boss on the underside of the
rack platform.  I drilled out my fender there and attached it.  It
looks like Adam might want to use a spacer at that spot to maintain
his fender lines.

FWIW, the Mark's Rack does not have that threaded boss on the
underside of the platform.

On Jan 26, 6:42 am, jsk  wrote:
> Hey Adam,
>
> Does the Mini Front rack attach to your front fender?
>
> jsk
>
> On Jan 26, 2:14 am, Ad Noyce  wrote:
>
> > Hey all,
>
> > Thanks for the input on front racks.  My setup now includes a mini front
> > rack for the loafer and fenders:
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/26905387@N04/5388732538/in/photostream/
>
> > Thanks gang,
> > Adam
>
> > On Monday, January 10, 2011 9:10:43 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> > > Tubus are indeed fine racks... My only gripe with my Tubus Logo was
> > > that the top (main) platform was very narrow, compared to the Nitto
> > > Big Rack.  Anything I put on the Logo seemed tippy, and unstable.  I
> > > don't understand where Tubus is coming from with this design; in fact
> > > I believe you build the rack platform to be as wide as possible
> > > without it becoming heavy or unwieldy.
>
> > > On Jan 10, 10:14 am, hobie  wrote:
> > > > Don't forget Tubus in stainless still. Tubus might be stronger or more
> > > > rigid.
>
> > > > On Jan 7, 1:54 am, Adam  wrote:
>
> > > > > Thought I'd use the rebate to throw on a front rack...
>
> > > > > Could anyone speak to whether the Nitto Two-Strut Top Rack is
> > > > > compatible with canti brakes?
>
> > > > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-two-strut-top-rack/20-190
>
> > > > > I was planning to sit the small loafer up front...so then any reason
> > > > > I'd choose the Two-Strut, which seems to manage a good amount of
> > > > > weight,  v. the Mini Front Rack, which handles a smaller load and has
> > > > > one strut?
>
> > > > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/mini-front-nitto/20-020
>
> > > > > Concerned about weight in the front, especially when I'm on longish
> > > > > rides--frequent biking in the Oakland and Berkeley hills and it can be
> > > > > plenty windy.
>
> > > > > Any thoughts appreciated--
>
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Adam- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-26 Thread jsk
Hey Adam,

Does the Mini Front rack attach to your front fender?

jsk

On Jan 26, 2:14 am, Ad Noyce  wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Thanks for the input on front racks.  My setup now includes a mini front
> rack for the loafer and fenders:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/26905387@N04/5388732538/in/photostream/
>
> Thanks gang,
> Adam
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 10, 2011 9:10:43 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> > Tubus are indeed fine racks... My only gripe with my Tubus Logo was
> > that the top (main) platform was very narrow, compared to the Nitto
> > Big Rack.  Anything I put on the Logo seemed tippy, and unstable.  I
> > don't understand where Tubus is coming from with this design; in fact
> > I believe you build the rack platform to be as wide as possible
> > without it becoming heavy or unwieldy.
>
> > On Jan 10, 10:14 am, hobie  wrote:
> > > Don't forget Tubus in stainless still. Tubus might be stronger or more
> > > rigid.
>
> > > On Jan 7, 1:54 am, Adam  wrote:
>
> > > > Thought I'd use the rebate to throw on a front rack...
>
> > > > Could anyone speak to whether the Nitto Two-Strut Top Rack is
> > > > compatible with canti brakes?
>
> > > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-two-strut-top-rack/20-190
>
> > > > I was planning to sit the small loafer up front...so then any reason
> > > > I'd choose the Two-Strut, which seems to manage a good amount of
> > > > weight,  v. the Mini Front Rack, which handles a smaller load and has
> > > > one strut?
>
> > > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/mini-front-nitto/20-020
>
> > > > Concerned about weight in the front, especially when I'm on longish
> > > > rides--frequent biking in the Oakland and Berkeley hills and it can be
> > > > plenty windy.
>
> > > > Any thoughts appreciated--
>
> > > > Best,
> > > > Adam- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -

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RE: [RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-26 Thread jim phillips

Beautiful! Great job.
 
JimP
 
> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:33:59 -0800
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> 
> Looks great Adam. Double thumbs up.
> 
> On Jan 25, 11:14 pm, Ad Noyce  wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Thanks for the input on front racks.  My setup now includes a mini front
> > rack for the loafer and fenders:
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/26905387@N04/5388732538/in/photostream/
> >
> > Thanks gang,
> > Adam
> >
> > On Monday, January 10, 2011 9:10:43 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
> >
> > > Tubus are indeed fine racks... My only gripe with my Tubus Logo was
> > > that the top (main) platform was very narrow, compared to the Nitto
> > > Big Rack.  Anything I put on the Logo seemed tippy, and unstable.  I
> > > don't understand where Tubus is coming from with this design; in fact
> > > I believe you build the rack platform to be as wide as possible
> > > without it becoming heavy or unwieldy.
> >
> > > On Jan 10, 10:14 am, hobie  wrote:
> > > > Don't forget Tubus in stainless still. Tubus might be stronger or more
> > > > rigid.
> >
> > > > On Jan 7, 1:54 am, Adam  wrote:
> >
> > > > > Thought I'd use the rebate to throw on a front rack...
> >
> > > > > Could anyone speak to whether the Nitto Two-Strut Top Rack is
> > > > > compatible with canti brakes?
> >
> > > > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-two-strut-top-rack/20-190
> >
> > > > > I was planning to sit the small loafer up front...so then any reason
> > > > > I'd choose the Two-Strut, which seems to manage a good amount of
> > > > > weight,  v. the Mini Front Rack, which handles a smaller load and has
> > > > > one strut?
> >
> > > > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/mini-front-nitto/20-020
> >
> > > > > Concerned about weight in the front, especially when I'm on longish
> > > > > rides--frequent biking in the Oakland and Berkeley hills and it can be
> > > > > plenty windy.
> >
> > > > > Any thoughts appreciated--
> >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Adam- Hide quoted text -
> >
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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-26 Thread William
Looks great Adam.  Double thumbs up.

On Jan 25, 11:14 pm, Ad Noyce  wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Thanks for the input on front racks.  My setup now includes a mini front
> rack for the loafer and fenders:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/26905387@N04/5388732538/in/photostream/
>
> Thanks gang,
> Adam
>
> On Monday, January 10, 2011 9:10:43 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> > Tubus are indeed fine racks... My only gripe with my Tubus Logo was
> > that the top (main) platform was very narrow, compared to the Nitto
> > Big Rack.  Anything I put on the Logo seemed tippy, and unstable.  I
> > don't understand where Tubus is coming from with this design; in fact
> > I believe you build the rack platform to be as wide as possible
> > without it becoming heavy or unwieldy.
>
> > On Jan 10, 10:14 am, hobie  wrote:
> > > Don't forget Tubus in stainless still. Tubus might be stronger or more
> > > rigid.
>
> > > On Jan 7, 1:54 am, Adam  wrote:
>
> > > > Thought I'd use the rebate to throw on a front rack...
>
> > > > Could anyone speak to whether the Nitto Two-Strut Top Rack is
> > > > compatible with canti brakes?
>
> > > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-two-strut-top-rack/20-190
>
> > > > I was planning to sit the small loafer up front...so then any reason
> > > > I'd choose the Two-Strut, which seems to manage a good amount of
> > > > weight,  v. the Mini Front Rack, which handles a smaller load and has
> > > > one strut?
>
> > > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/mini-front-nitto/20-020
>
> > > > Concerned about weight in the front, especially when I'm on longish
> > > > rides--frequent biking in the Oakland and Berkeley hills and it can be
> > > > plenty windy.
>
> > > > Any thoughts appreciated--
>
> > > > Best,
> > > > Adam- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-25 Thread Ad Noyce
Hey all,

Thanks for the input on front racks.  My setup now includes a mini front 
rack for the loafer and fenders:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26905387@N04/5388732538/in/photostream/

Thanks gang,
Adam

On Monday, January 10, 2011 9:10:43 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> Tubus are indeed fine racks... My only gripe with my Tubus Logo was 
> that the top (main) platform was very narrow, compared to the Nitto 
> Big Rack.  Anything I put on the Logo seemed tippy, and unstable.  I 
> don't understand where Tubus is coming from with this design; in fact 
> I believe you build the rack platform to be as wide as possible 
> without it becoming heavy or unwieldy. 
>
>
>
> On Jan 10, 10:14 am, hobie  wrote: 
> > Don't forget Tubus in stainless still. Tubus might be stronger or more 
> > rigid. 
> > 
> > On Jan 7, 1:54 am, Adam  wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Thought I'd use the rebate to throw on a front rack... 
> > 
> > > Could anyone speak to whether the Nitto Two-Strut Top Rack is 
> > > compatible with canti brakes? 
> > 
> > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-two-strut-top-rack/20-190 
> > 
> > > I was planning to sit the small loafer up front...so then any reason 
> > > I'd choose the Two-Strut, which seems to manage a good amount of 
> > > weight,  v. the Mini Front Rack, which handles a smaller load and has 
> > > one strut? 
> > 
> > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/mini-front-nitto/20-020 
> > 
> > > Concerned about weight in the front, especially when I'm on longish 
> > > rides--frequent biking in the Oakland and Berkeley hills and it can be 
> > > plenty windy. 
> > 
> > > Any thoughts appreciated-- 
> > 
> > > Best, 
> > > Adam- Hide quoted text - 
> > 
> > - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-25 Thread Ad Noyce
Hi all,

Thank you all for your input on front rack compatibility with a canti-
brake bike.  I now have a Nitto mini front rack (and Honjo fenders)
mounted on my ride (see link to photos).  The Nitto just looks
impeccably made, with nicer welds than the VO, if that counts for
anything (I'm not sure it does).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26905387@N04/5388732538/in/photostream/

As far as the fenders go, I came out of Jitensha Studio with what I
thought were extra long 650B fenders.  Maybe something was lost in
translation and these are meant for 700c?  Or maybe that's just the
look of the extra long.

Do you think these could pose a danger in the course of my every day
riding?  I do run fire trails on weekends...

In all, I'm enjoying the new additions.  I've got my ear tuned for any
clanks or clatters, and so far, none.  I love how the bike handles in
the turns and on hills, very steady.

Thanks gang,
Adam

On Jan 10, 9:10 am, Montclair BobbyB 
wrote:
> Tubus are indeed fine racks... My only gripe with my Tubus Logo was
> that the top (main) platform was very narrow, compared to theNitto
> BigRack.  Anything I put on the Logo seemed tippy, and unstable.  I
> don't understand where Tubus is coming from with this design; in fact
> I believe you build therackplatform to be as wide as possible
> without it becoming heavy or unwieldy.
>
> On Jan 10, 10:14 am, hobie  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Don't forget Tubus in stainless still. Tubus might be stronger or more
> > rigid.
>
> > On Jan 7, 1:54 am, Adam  wrote:
>
> > > Thought I'd use the rebate to throw on afrontrack...
>
> > > Could anyone speak to whether theNittoTwo-Strut TopRackis
> > > compatible with canti brakes?
>
> > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-two-strut-top-rack/20-190
>
> > > I was planning to sit the small loafer upfront...so then any reason
> > > I'd choose the Two-Strut, which seems to manage a good amount of
> > > weight,  v. the MiniFrontRack, which handles a smaller load and has
> > > one strut?
>
> > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/mini-front-nitto/20-020
>
> > > Concerned about weight in thefront, especially when I'm on longish
> > > rides--frequent biking in the Oakland and Berkeley hills and it can be
> > > plenty windy.
>
> > > Any thoughts appreciated--
>
> > > Best,
> > > Adam- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-10 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Tubus are indeed fine racks... My only gripe with my Tubus Logo was
that the top (main) platform was very narrow, compared to the Nitto
Big Rack.  Anything I put on the Logo seemed tippy, and unstable.  I
don't understand where Tubus is coming from with this design; in fact
I believe you build the rack platform to be as wide as possible
without it becoming heavy or unwieldy.



On Jan 10, 10:14 am, hobie  wrote:
> Don't forget Tubus in stainless still. Tubus might be stronger or more
> rigid.
>
> On Jan 7, 1:54 am, Adam  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thought I'd use the rebate to throw on a front rack...
>
> > Could anyone speak to whether the Nitto Two-Strut Top Rack is
> > compatible with canti brakes?
>
> >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-two-strut-top-rack/20-190
>
> > I was planning to sit the small loafer up front...so then any reason
> > I'd choose the Two-Strut, which seems to manage a good amount of
> > weight,  v. the Mini Front Rack, which handles a smaller load and has
> > one strut?
>
> >http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/mini-front-nitto/20-020
>
> > Concerned about weight in the front, especially when I'm on longish
> > rides--frequent biking in the Oakland and Berkeley hills and it can be
> > plenty windy.
>
> > Any thoughts appreciated--
>
> > Best,
> > Adam- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-10 Thread hobie
Don't forget Tubus in stainless still. Tubus might be stronger or more
rigid.

On Jan 7, 1:54 am, Adam  wrote:
> Thought I'd use the rebate to throw on a front rack...
>
> Could anyone speak to whether the Nitto Two-Strut Top Rack is
> compatible with canti brakes?
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-two-strut-top-rack/20-190
>
> I was planning to sit the small loafer up front...so then any reason
> I'd choose the Two-Strut, which seems to manage a good amount of
> weight,  v. the Mini Front Rack, which handles a smaller load and has
> one strut?
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/mini-front-nitto/20-020
>
> Concerned about weight in the front, especially when I'm on longish
> rides--frequent biking in the Oakland and Berkeley hills and it can be
> plenty windy.
>
> Any thoughts appreciated--
>
> Best,
> Adam

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-10 Thread Garth
Adam,

   I ride a Bombadil and currently have a Mark's rack on the front,
and a Two Strut model I have yet to replace it with.  I had to very
slightly bend the two shortest struts on the Marks rack t oclear my
canti's when open, and will have to do the same with the Two Strut
one.  My canti's are wide profile though, so if you don't use this
style you'll need no bending.

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-08 Thread Roger
I've been eyeballing low rider front racks.

For the first couple of years Rivendell sold the Nitto Campee with the
bolt on low riders, and had a simple low rider only with hoop in
development (Reader 15, page 13) but at some point decided to eschew
the low and go high. I wonder what made them see the high rider
religion?

I have a Carradice Limpet, the rackless, velcro and hop-mount bags,
but unfortunately I've just never come to love it. When I find a good
deal or trade on a rack, I  want to switch out the Limpet. I'm sure
with global economies and such $220 is the fair price for a Nitto
Campee, but that's not in the budget right now. VO says they have
something in development but can't discuss it's design or timing.

On Jan 8, 1:04 pm, omnigrid  wrote:
> I was not impressed with a VO rack I installed on a customer's bicycle. The
> welds were ugly, everything was out of alignment, the finish was not
> anywhere near that of a Nitto, and the piece that attaches to the fork crown
> was flimsy and sure to fail eventually. I'm sure it would perform just fine
> for a little while, but the build quality was just not there.
>
> You get what you pay for. "Buy once, cry once."
>
> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Minh  wrote:
>
> > I'll second this request. Do the vo racks line up with the rvindell
> > braze ons?
>
> > And is the main diff between the nitto mini front and the marks rack
> > the way the stays attach?
>
> > On Jan 8, 2:17 pm, MikeC  wrote:
> > > Not to hijack this thread, but how do the VO's in stainless steel
> > > compare to the Nittos in cro-mo in design and quality? They seem
> > > pretty similar in photos and VOs are half to two-thirds the price.
>
> > > -Mike
>
> > > On Jan 8, 12:09 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
>
> > > > Go with the Mini. It's a great rack, and mine has carried well over 30
> > lbs
> > > > without a problem. In fact, the superiority of the Mini is a major
> > reason to
> > > > get a cantilever bike, IMO.
>
> > > > I have no experience with the two-strut, so take my comments with a
> > grain of
> > > > salt, but despite the double struts I doubt it can carry more weight
> > than
> > > > the mini, because its attachment to the fork crown is much less secure
> > > > (bolted-on flat piece of flexible steel vs. brazed-on solid round steel
> > > > rod). That said, the two strut will fit cantis acc. to rivbike: "It
> > mounts
> > > > to any of our bikes, and most others". For the most secure attachment,
> > you'd
> > > > probably want to run a bolt through your forkcrown to attach the flat
> > metal
> > > > piece to...
>
> > > > Cheers,
>
> > > > Gernot
>
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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-08 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I have the Nitto Mini (which I love)... It looks awesome, has
beautiful welds and finish, and it's STRONG... Nicest front rack I've
ever owned.  I think this is THE rack to get if it fits your setup,
and you're planning to stick with the same bike.  If you plan to
switch it to different bikes (or potentially use it as a rear rack),
then I think Mark's Rack may offer a little more versatility.  (I just
ordered one for this reason).

BB

On Jan 8, 4:04 pm, omnigrid  wrote:
> I was not impressed with a VO rack I installed on a customer's bicycle. The
> welds were ugly, everything was out of alignment, the finish was not
> anywhere near that of a Nitto, and the piece that attaches to the fork crown
> was flimsy and sure to fail eventually. I'm sure it would perform just fine
> for a little while, but the build quality was just not there.
>
> You get what you pay for. "Buy once, cry once."
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Minh  wrote:
>
> > I'll second this request. Do the vo racks line up with the rvindell
> > braze ons?
>
> > And is the main diff between the nitto mini front and the marks rack
> > the way the stays attach?
>
> > On Jan 8, 2:17 pm, MikeC  wrote:
> > > Not to hijack this thread, but how do the VO's in stainless steel
> > > compare to the Nittos in cro-mo in design and quality? They seem
> > > pretty similar in photos and VOs are half to two-thirds the price.
>
> > > -Mike
>
> > > On Jan 8, 12:09 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
>
> > > > Go with the Mini. It's a great rack, and mine has carried well over 30
> > lbs
> > > > without a problem. In fact, the superiority of the Mini is a major
> > reason to
> > > > get a cantilever bike, IMO.
>
> > > > I have no experience with the two-strut, so take my comments with a
> > grain of
> > > > salt, but despite the double struts I doubt it can carry more weight
> > than
> > > > the mini, because its attachment to the fork crown is much less secure
> > > > (bolted-on flat piece of flexible steel vs. brazed-on solid round steel
> > > > rod). That said, the two strut will fit cantis acc. to rivbike: "It
> > mounts
> > > > to any of our bikes, and most others". For the most secure attachment,
> > you'd
> > > > probably want to run a bolt through your forkcrown to attach the flat
> > metal
> > > > piece to...
>
> > > > Cheers,
>
> > > > Gernot
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-08 Thread omnigrid
I was not impressed with a VO rack I installed on a customer's bicycle. The
welds were ugly, everything was out of alignment, the finish was not
anywhere near that of a Nitto, and the piece that attaches to the fork crown
was flimsy and sure to fail eventually. I'm sure it would perform just fine
for a little while, but the build quality was just not there.

You get what you pay for. "Buy once, cry once."

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Minh  wrote:

>
> I'll second this request. Do the vo racks line up with the rvindell
> braze ons?
>
> And is the main diff between the nitto mini front and the marks rack
> the way the stays attach?
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2:17 pm, MikeC  wrote:
> > Not to hijack this thread, but how do the VO's in stainless steel
> > compare to the Nittos in cro-mo in design and quality? They seem
> > pretty similar in photos and VOs are half to two-thirds the price.
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> > On Jan 8, 12:09 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Go with the Mini. It's a great rack, and mine has carried well over 30
> lbs
> > > without a problem. In fact, the superiority of the Mini is a major
> reason to
> > > get a cantilever bike, IMO.
> >
> > > I have no experience with the two-strut, so take my comments with a
> grain of
> > > salt, but despite the double struts I doubt it can carry more weight
> than
> > > the mini, because its attachment to the fork crown is much less secure
> > > (bolted-on flat piece of flexible steel vs. brazed-on solid round steel
> > > rod). That said, the two strut will fit cantis acc. to rivbike: "It
> mounts
> > > to any of our bikes, and most others". For the most secure attachment,
> you'd
> > > probably want to run a bolt through your forkcrown to attach the flat
> metal
> > > piece to...
> >
> > > Cheers,
> >
> > > Gernot
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-08 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/8/11 11:17 AM, MikeC at [email protected] wrote:

> Not to hijack this thread, but how do the VO's in stainless steel
> compare to the Nittos in cro-mo in design and quality? They seem
> pretty similar in photos and VOs are half to two-thirds the price.

I would pretty much trust my life to anything Nitto makes. I've had a few
conversations with GP about the amount of testing and attention which goes
into the Nitto racks (and other items).  The rigor of their process is truly
impressive.  I think that's what you pay for with Nitto. And, if you compare
Nitto prices, you'll find that RBW is pretty much the "go-to" place for
dollar value.

- Jim

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-08 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/8/11 11:25 AM, Minh at [email protected] wrote:

> And is the main diff between the nitto mini front and the marks rack
> the way the stays attach?

I have both.  The platforms are identical. Somewhere in my flickr stream are
photos of each one.

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-08 Thread Minh

I'll second this request. Do the vo racks line up with the rvindell
braze ons?

And is the main diff between the nitto mini front and the marks rack
the way the stays attach?


On Jan 8, 2:17 pm, MikeC  wrote:
> Not to hijack this thread, but how do the VO's in stainless steel
> compare to the Nittos in cro-mo in design and quality? They seem
> pretty similar in photos and VOs are half to two-thirds the price.
>
> -Mike
>
> On Jan 8, 12:09 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Go with the Mini. It's a great rack, and mine has carried well over 30 lbs
> > without a problem. In fact, the superiority of the Mini is a major reason to
> > get a cantilever bike, IMO.
>
> > I have no experience with the two-strut, so take my comments with a grain of
> > salt, but despite the double struts I doubt it can carry more weight than
> > the mini, because its attachment to the fork crown is much less secure
> > (bolted-on flat piece of flexible steel vs. brazed-on solid round steel
> > rod). That said, the two strut will fit cantis acc. to rivbike: "It mounts
> > to any of our bikes, and most others". For the most secure attachment, you'd
> > probably want to run a bolt through your forkcrown to attach the flat metal
> > piece to...
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Gernot

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-08 Thread MikeC
Not to hijack this thread, but how do the VO's in stainless steel
compare to the Nittos in cro-mo in design and quality? They seem
pretty similar in photos and VOs are half to two-thirds the price.

-Mike

On Jan 8, 12:09 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
> Go with the Mini. It's a great rack, and mine has carried well over 30 lbs
> without a problem. In fact, the superiority of the Mini is a major reason to
> get a cantilever bike, IMO.
>
> I have no experience with the two-strut, so take my comments with a grain of
> salt, but despite the double struts I doubt it can carry more weight than
> the mini, because its attachment to the fork crown is much less secure
> (bolted-on flat piece of flexible steel vs. brazed-on solid round steel
> rod). That said, the two strut will fit cantis acc. to rivbike: "It mounts
> to any of our bikes, and most others". For the most secure attachment, you'd
> probably want to run a bolt through your forkcrown to attach the flat metal
> piece to...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gernot

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Racks

2011-01-08 Thread Earl Grey
Go with the Mini. It's a great rack, and mine has carried well over 30 lbs 
without a problem. In fact, the superiority of the Mini is a major reason to 
get a cantilever bike, IMO.

I have no experience with the two-strut, so take my comments with a grain of 
salt, but despite the double struts I doubt it can carry more weight than 
the mini, because its attachment to the fork crown is much less secure 
(bolted-on flat piece of flexible steel vs. brazed-on solid round steel 
rod). That said, the two strut will fit cantis acc. to rivbike: "It mounts 
to any of our bikes, and most others". For the most secure attachment, you'd 
probably want to run a bolt through your forkcrown to attach the flat metal 
piece to...

Cheers,

Gernot

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