Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE 
26.25" -- hmmm. The fenders have a nice, tight radius -- perhaps the XOXO
picture misleads -- crown and bridges doubtless higher than on my 26" roads.

Thanks.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:

> Patrick: Circumference of 650b wheel with 42mm GB Hetres tire: 2094mm
>
> (from Franklyn)
>
> I'll let you divide by pi and convert to inches.
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Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread Toshi Takeuchi 
Patrick: Circumference of 650b wheel with 42mm GB Hetres tire: 2094mm

(from Franklyn)

I'll let you divide by pi and convert to inches.

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE 
Toshi: is the diameter of your wheels about 26 1/2 "? I'm curious since the
wheels I am considering the PB45s for are 25" in diameter and I wonder if
that would be squeezing the fenders down a wee bit too much.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:

> No problems with Hetres on the Ram, it would be very tight on the AHH.
>
> I have no real issues with the shape of the fender and the 650b tire.
> You can see from the pic that the front fender in the front is not
> quite perfect, but it might be the fender itself and not the wheel
> size. There is plenty of coverage in terms of distance of the mudflap
> to the ground.  I've never seen water spray around the sides of the
> fender.  I doubt this could happen unless you are running the tires
> really soft and had a huge contact patch (more likely in the back, I
> suppose).
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/8176967200/in/photostream/
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Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread Toshi Takeuchi 
No problems with Hetres on the Ram, it would be very tight on the AHH.

I have no real issues with the shape of the fender and the 650b tire.
You can see from the pic that the front fender in the front is not
quite perfect, but it might be the fender itself and not the wheel
size. There is plenty of coverage in terms of distance of the mudflap
to the ground.  I've never seen water spray around the sides of the
fender.  I doubt this could happen unless you are running the tires
really soft and had a huge contact patch (more likely in the back, I
suppose).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/8176967200/in/photostream/

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread Dan McNamara 
Here is a "thru the basket" shot of the diving board on the SO's Betty. Much 
shorter than yours. I'll ask about that next time I am at RBW. 

Dan

Marin

On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:57 AM, Jay B  wrote:

> On my GF's Betty Foy Build, we used a black plastic (nylon?) spacer from Ace 
> Hardware with a button head cap screw, washer, and nut to stabilize the front 
> of the fender to the Mark's Rack.  you can see it here.  I'm trying 
> Longboards on my Bleriot right now with fatter tires than the Schwalbes.  I 
> finally spent a few minutes dialing in the fit, and I'm having no rubbing 
> (front or rear) and I haven't bothered with securing the leading edge of the 
> front fender yet either. I put it through the ringer yesterday on some rainy 
> dirt roads and trails, and everything is still in place.  we'll see over the 
> long term...
> 
> -jay b.
> 
> On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:49:57 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote:
>> 
>> Same look on my SO's Betty (50cm) with the longboards. Not as pronounced as 
>> they are mounted with a Sheldon fender nut and under a Mark's rack. But 
>> still. 
>> 
>> Thinking about using a second stay to get the front to conform. Or perhaps 
>> something off the rack. Too bad the rack does not have a fender mount built 
>> in. 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Marin
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:21 PM, shawn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Michael. That is how the front fender looked on my test fit on the 
>>> Betty and I also have the same problem on my regular SKS fenders on my 
>>> Atlantis. Maybe I am doing something wrong during the installation.  
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:08:26 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
 
> Yes, here is a pic.
 You can see how the rear fender is great, but the front isn't.
  
 You can also see it happening at the end of the riv video for the 
 longboard installation in the final seconds when it shows the finished 
 installation on their bike.
  
 Even with my fender backed way off (moreso than in my pic) and trying 
 many adjustments, it just wants to rise away. 
 Doesn't really bother me, and the fenders work great. Just an aesthetics 
 thing.
  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/8049473099/in/photostream
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Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread Brad Mitchell 
Has anyone run these fenders w/ Hetres before? I currently have VO Zeppelin 
fenders over them, but I have an extra set of P45s sitting around.. and 
thinking of trying them out. I figure the clearance on the sides will be 
tight..



On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 4:04:25 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thanks, Michael. Can you tell me what, roughly, is the actual diameter of 
> your 650B wheels?
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Michael 
> > wrote:
>
>> The SKS site says the P45 is for a 28" wheel. This may be why is doesn't 
>>> conform to all wheel diameters on the front fender, fore of the brake mount.
>>>
>>  
>> The rear fender is no problem on my 650b, but the front fender doesn't 
>> conform to the front wheel (at least on mine). Nothing functionally wrong 
>> with that, just a looks thing.
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[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread EGNolan 
It's been said, but it really depends on the lines you're comfortable with, 
here's a couple of photos of longboards on a Handsome XOXO w/ 26x1.75" 
(used to be my mine, but not with this set up)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/8116510606/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/8311142345/in/photostream/
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread Dan McNamara 
Yah. That is a super long diving board. The one on Amy's bike is no where near 
that long. 



On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:57 AM, Jay B  wrote:

> On my GF's Betty Foy Build, we used a black plastic (nylon?) spacer from Ace 
> Hardware with a button head cap screw, washer, and nut to stabilize the front 
> of the fender to the Mark's Rack.  you can see it here.  I'm trying 
> Longboards on my Bleriot right now with fatter tires than the Schwalbes.  I 
> finally spent a few minutes dialing in the fit, and I'm having no rubbing 
> (front or rear) and I haven't bothered with securing the leading edge of the 
> front fender yet either. I put it through the ringer yesterday on some rainy 
> dirt roads and trails, and everything is still in place.  we'll see over the 
> long term...
> 
> -jay b.
> 
> On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:49:57 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote:
>> 
>> Same look on my SO's Betty (50cm) with the longboards. Not as pronounced as 
>> they are mounted with a Sheldon fender nut and under a Mark's rack. But 
>> still. 
>> 
>> Thinking about using a second stay to get the front to conform. Or perhaps 
>> something off the rack. Too bad the rack does not have a fender mount built 
>> in. 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Marin
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:21 PM, shawn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Michael. That is how the front fender looked on my test fit on the 
>>> Betty and I also have the same problem on my regular SKS fenders on my 
>>> Atlantis. Maybe I am doing something wrong during the installation.  
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:08:26 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
 
> Yes, here is a pic.
 You can see how the rear fender is great, but the front isn't.
  
 You can also see it happening at the end of the riv video for the 
 longboard installation in the final seconds when it shows the finished 
 installation on their bike.
  
 Even with my fender backed way off (moreso than in my pic) and trying 
 many adjustments, it just wants to rise away. 
 Doesn't really bother me, and the fenders work great. Just an aesthetics 
 thing.
  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/8049473099/in/photostream
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Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread Jay B 
On my GF's Betty Foy Build, we used a black plastic (nylon?) spacer from 
Ace Hardware with a button head cap screw, washer, and nut to stabilize the 
front of the fender to the Mark's Rack.  you can see it 
here. 
 I'm trying Longboards on my Bleriot 
right now with 
fatter tires than the Schwalbes.  I finally spent a few minutes dialing in 
the fit, and I'm having no rubbing (front or rear) and I haven't bothered 
with securing the leading edge of the front fender yet either. I put it 
through the ringer yesterday on some rainy dirt roads and trails, and 
everything is still in place.  we'll see over the long term...

-jay b.

On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:49:57 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote:
>
> Same look on my SO's Betty (50cm) with the longboards. Not as pronounced 
> as they are mounted with a Sheldon fender nut and under a Mark's rack. But 
> still. 
>
> Thinking about using a second stay to get the front to conform. Or perhaps 
> something off the rack. Too bad the rack does not have a fender mount built 
> in. 
>
> Dan
>
> Marin
>
> On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:21 PM, shawn > 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Michael. That is how the front fender looked on my test fit on the 
> Betty and I also have the same problem on my regular SKS fenders on my 
> Atlantis. Maybe I am doing something wrong during the installation.  
>
> On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:08:26 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>>
>> Yes, here is a pic.
>>>
>> You can see how the rear fender is great, but the front isn't.
>>  
>> You can also see it happening at the end of the riv video for the 
>> longboard installation in the final seconds when it shows the finished 
>> installation on their bike.
>>  
>> Even with my fender backed way off (moreso than in my pic) and trying 
>> many adjustments, it just wants to rise away. 
>> Doesn't really bother me, and the fenders work great. Just an aesthetics 
>> thing.
>>  
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/8049473099/in/photostream
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread shawn 
Dan,
Did you mount the fender in back of the fork crown? I am assuming you did 
since you used a Sheldon fender nut. My wife's Betty is a 50cm as well and 
I thought the fenders would be too long to mount in the back of the fork 
crown. A photo of your Betty showing the fenders mounted would be greatly 
appreciated. 

Thanks
Shawn

On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:49:57 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote:
>
> Same look on my SO's Betty (50cm) with the longboards. Not as pronounced 
> as they are mounted with a Sheldon fender nut and under a Mark's rack. But 
> still. 
>
> Thinking about using a second stay to get the front to conform. Or perhaps 
> something off the rack. Too bad the rack does not have a fender mount built 
> in. 
>
> Dan
>
> Marin
>
> On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:21 PM, shawn > 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Michael. That is how the front fender looked on my test fit on the 
> Betty and I also have the same problem on my regular SKS fenders on my 
> Atlantis. Maybe I am doing something wrong during the installation.  
>
> On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:08:26 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>>
>> Yes, here is a pic.
>>>
>> You can see how the rear fender is great, but the front isn't.
>>  
>> You can also see it happening at the end of the riv video for the 
>> longboard installation in the final seconds when it shows the finished 
>> installation on their bike.
>>  
>> Even with my fender backed way off (moreso than in my pic) and trying 
>> many adjustments, it just wants to rise away. 
>> Doesn't really bother me, and the fenders work great. Just an aesthetics 
>> thing.
>>  
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/8049473099/in/photostream
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread Dan McNamara 
The new 50 is the old 52 so it is 584  



On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:59 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> Dan: is the Betty 559 or 584?
> 
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Dan McNamara  wrote:
>> Same look on my SO's Betty (50cm) with the longboards. Not as pronounced as 
>> they are mounted with a Sheldon fender nut and under a Mark's rack. But 
>> still. 
>> 
>> Thinking about using a second stay to get the front to conform. Or perhaps 
>> something off the rack. Too bad the rack does not have a fender mount built 
>> in. 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Marin
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:21 PM, shawn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Michael. That is how the front fender looked on my test fit on the 
>>> Betty and I also have the same problem on my regular SKS fenders on my 
>>> Atlantis. Maybe I am doing something wrong during the installation.  
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:08:26 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
 
> Yes, here is a pic.
 You can see how the rear fender is great, but the front isn't.
  
 You can also see it happening at the end of the riv video for the 
 longboard installation in the final seconds when it shows the finished 
 installation on their bike.
  
 Even with my fender backed way off (moreso than in my pic) and trying 
 many adjustments, it just wants to rise away. 
 Doesn't really bother me, and the fenders work great. Just an aesthetics 
 thing.
  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/8049473099/in/photostream
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[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread William 
My Marks Rack helps conceal the front end rising.  I posted a few photos of 
my 650B Hilsen, which now has silver Longboards.  I'll save the Honjos for 
another project

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/8429257730/in/photostream

On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 5:08:26 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
>
> Yes, here is a pic.
>>
> You can see how the rear fender is great, but the front isn't.
>  
> You can also see it happening at the end of the riv video for the 
> longboard installation in the final seconds when it shows the finished 
> installation on their bike.
>  
> Even with my fender backed way off (moreso than in my pic) and trying 
> many adjustments, it just wants to rise away. 
> Doesn't really bother me, and the fenders work great. Just an aesthetics 
> thing.
>  
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/8049473099/in/photostream
>

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[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread Michael 

>
> Patrick,
> The problem I have is the unsupported front end of the front fender (the 
> part in front of the brake) rises away from the tire, giving it a 
> cyclocross bike fender look, if you know what I mean. Like a BMX fendered 
> bik used for dirt jumps. Ha ha.
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[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread Michael 

>
> Patrick,
>
The Longboard has an aluminum strip. But I think it may just be thin like 
foil. So maybe a heat gun or blow drier would work.
When I mounted my Spanninga light on the rear fender, a regular wood drill 
bit passed right through the fender as if it was all plastic. Didn;t feel a 
change as it hit the aluminum.
So I think the aluminum strip must be pretty thin/flexible and may move 
easily with the heated plastic that is around it.
 
I want to try to use a blow drier on my front fender to see what happens.
I'll let you know. I hope to try tomorrow.

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Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE 
Dan: is the Betty 559 or 584?

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Dan McNamara  wrote:

> Same look on my SO's Betty (50cm) with the longboards. Not as pronounced
> as they are mounted with a Sheldon fender nut and under a Mark's rack. But
> still.
>
> Thinking about using a second stay to get the front to conform. Or perhaps
> something off the rack. Too bad the rack does not have a fender mount built
> in.
>
> Dan
>
> Marin
>
> On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:21 PM, shawn  wrote:
>
> Thanks Michael. That is how the front fender looked on my test fit on the
> Betty and I also have the same problem on my regular SKS fenders on my
> Atlantis. Maybe I am doing something wrong during the installation.
>
> On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:08:26 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>>
>> Yes, here is a pic.
>>>
>> You can see how the rear fender is great, but the front isn't.
>>
>> You can also see it happening at the end of the riv video for the
>> longboard installation in the final seconds when it shows the finished
>> installation on their bike.
>>
>> Even with my fender backed way off (moreso than in my pic) and trying
>> many adjustments, it just wants to rise away.
>> Doesn't really bother me, and the fenders work great. Just an aesthetics
>> thing.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**70237737@N00/8049473099/in/**photostream
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE 
Michael: thanks a lot. The fender line follows the tire quite closely -- I
can see the deviations, but they are not great -- and I am up to trying the
same fenders with a 559X32 mm (actual; 34 mm labeled) tire. Other lists
have suggestions for shaping plastic fenders (gently!) in a mellow oven --
250*F; I may try those.

OTOH, I think SKS makes a 559X50 ...? But not in cream.

Choices, choices.

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Michael  wrote:

> Yes, here is a pic.
>>
> You can see how the rear fender is great, but the front isn't.
>
> You can also see it happening at the end of the riv video for the
> longboard installation in the final seconds when it shows the finished
> installation on their bike.
>
> Even with my fender backed way off (moreso than in my pic) and trying
> many adjustments, it just wants to rise away.
> Doesn't really bother me, and the fenders work great. Just an aesthetics
> thing.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/8049473099/in/photostream
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Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread Dan McNamara 
Same look on my SO's Betty (50cm) with the longboards. Not as pronounced as 
they are mounted with a Sheldon fender nut and under a Mark's rack. But still. 

Thinking about using a second stay to get the front to conform. Or perhaps 
something off the rack. Too bad the rack does not have a fender mount built in. 

Dan

Marin

On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:21 PM, shawn  wrote:

> Thanks Michael. That is how the front fender looked on my test fit on the 
> Betty and I also have the same problem on my regular SKS fenders on my 
> Atlantis. Maybe I am doing something wrong during the installation.  
> 
> On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:08:26 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, here is a pic.
>> You can see how the rear fender is great, but the front isn't.
>>  
>> You can also see it happening at the end of the riv video for the longboard 
>> installation in the final seconds when it shows the finished installation on 
>> their bike.
>>  
>> Even with my fender backed way off (moreso than in my pic) and trying 
>> many adjustments, it just wants to rise away. 
>> Doesn't really bother me, and the fenders work great. Just an aesthetics 
>> thing.
>>  
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/8049473099/in/photostream
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[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread Michael 

>
> Patrick,
>  
>
My front wheel with tire height measurement:
Twin Hollow 650b rim, with Fatty Rumpkin at 60psi, when standing upright as 
close top level as possible and off the bike = 26.5" from floor to top edge 
of tire, measured along center of wheel, with the tape as close as possible 
to wheel without bending it over the hub. Eyeballed at level with top edge 
of tire.
 
25" from floor to top rim edge.
592mm from rim to rim measuring just in front of the hub, as the only way 
for a true rim measurement would be to remove the rim from spokes.
I am guessing it would be 584mm edge to edge off the hub/spokes. 

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[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread shawn 
Thanks Michael. That is how the front fender looked on my test fit on the 
Betty and I also have the same problem on my regular SKS fenders on my 
Atlantis. Maybe I am doing something wrong during the installation.  

On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:08:26 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>
> Yes, here is a pic.
>>
> You can see how the rear fender is great, but the front isn't.
>  
> You can also see it happening at the end of the riv video for the 
> longboard installation in the final seconds when it shows the finished 
> installation on their bike.
>  
> Even with my fender backed way off (moreso than in my pic) and trying 
> many adjustments, it just wants to rise away. 
> Doesn't really bother me, and the fenders work great. Just an aesthetics 
> thing.
>  
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/8049473099/in/photostream
>

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[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread Michael 

>
> Yes, here is a pic.
>
You can see how the rear fender is great, but the front isn't.
 
You can also see it happening at the end of the riv video for the longboard 
installation in the final seconds when it shows the finished installation 
on their bike.
 
Even with my fender backed way off (moreso than in my pic) and trying 
many adjustments, it just wants to rise away. 
Doesn't really bother me, and the fenders work great. Just an aesthetics 
thing.
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/8049473099/in/photostream

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[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread shawn 
Michael,
Do you have a photo of the front fender not conforming the way you would 
like it to? The reason I ask is because I am in the process of installing 
longboards on my wife's Betty and would like to see some of the possible 
fit issues. My first test fit had the front of the fender forward of the 
brake tilting upward. I am waiting on new tires before I do the final 
install. 

On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 4:16:41 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>
> The SKS site says the P45 is for a 28" wheel. This may be why is doesn't 
>> conform to all wheel diameters on the front fender, fore of the brake mount.
>>
>  
> The rear fender is no problem on my 650b, but the front fender doesn't 
> conform to the front wheel (at least on mine). Nothing functionally wrong 
> with that, just a looks thing.
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Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE 
Thanks for those links. I am very familiar with 559 and 622 wheel sizes.
What I meant to ask is: with a 35 mm 622 wheel measuring roughly 27 1/2" in
diameter, and a 559 X 32 mm wheel measuring roughly 25" in diameter -- so
that there is fully a 2 1/2" difference -- will the Longboard P45s be in
any manner adaptable to the latter?

Riv's website copy says that they will be adaptable. I ask: have any of you
actually installed SKS Longboard P 45 fenders, as advertised by Rivendell,
on anything that can in any way be truthfully described as a "twenty six
inch wheel"? If so, I'd be very grateful for details.

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM, bwphoto  wrote:

> Here are a couple of links from Sheldon Brown that may help, so far they
> are the clearest articles I cold find.
> http://sheldonbrown.com/650b.html
> http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
>
> On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:15:52 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> From the Riv site, about the P45 Longboards:
>> *
>> *
>> *Only available in one size for now, the P45, which fits 650B and 700c
>> wheels up to 45mm wide mediumish fat tires. Works on 26" wheeled bikes, for
>> super duper coverage, but you'll need to take off the long front fender
>> flap or swap it out with the shorty 
>> flap.
>> "*
>> *
>> *
>> Has anyone ever tried to mount these on a frame meant for 26" wheels?
>> Scuttlebutt says that heat can help plastic fenders acquire and keep a
>> slightly new shape without external tension (as from the stays, tension
>> that might cause them to crack prematurely)? I'm game to invest and try
>> (this for the '03 errand Riv with 25" actual diameter wheels), but if
>> someone has already done so and found it a losing proposition, I'd be
>> grateful to hear about it before spending.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread bwphoto 
Here are a couple of links from Sheldon Brown that may help, so far they 
are the clearest articles I cold find.
http://sheldonbrown.com/650b.html
http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html

On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:15:52 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> From the Riv site, about the P45 Longboards:
> *
> *
> *Only available in one size for now, the P45, which fits 650B and 700c 
> wheels up to 45mm wide mediumish fat tires. Works on 26" wheeled bikes, for 
> super duper coverage, but you'll need to take off the long front fender 
> flap or swap it out with the shorty 
> flap.
> "*
> *
> *
> Has anyone ever tried to mount these on a frame meant for 26" wheels? 
> Scuttlebutt says that heat can help plastic fenders acquire and keep a 
> slightly new shape without external tension (as from the stays, tension 
> that might cause them to crack prematurely)? I'm game to invest and try 
> (this for the '03 errand Riv with 25" actual diameter wheels), but if 
> someone has already done so and found it a losing proposition, I'd be 
> grateful to hear about it before spending.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE 
Thanks, Michael. Can you tell me what, roughly, is the actual diameter of
your 650B wheels?

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Michael  wrote:

> The SKS site says the P45 is for a 28" wheel. This may be why is doesn't
>> conform to all wheel diameters on the front fender, fore of the brake mount.
>>
>
> The rear fender is no problem on my 650b, but the front fender doesn't
> conform to the front wheel (at least on mine). Nothing functionally wrong
> with that, just a looks thing.
>
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[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread Michael 

>
> The SKS site says the P45 is for a 28" wheel. This may be why is doesn't 
> conform to all wheel diameters on the front fender, fore of the brake mount.
>
 
The rear fender is no problem on my 650b, but the front fender doesn't 
conform to the front wheel (at least on mine). Nothing functionally wrong 
with that, just a looks thing.

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