Re: [RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-20 Thread Steve Palincsar 
On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 09:37 -0700, Lynne Fitz wrote:
> The original drawing with measurements is here:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/4372032124/
> (tiny)

Thanks.  Tiny indeed!


> I wish I was XS :-)

Oh, compared to me, certainly you are!



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[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-20 Thread Lynne Fitz 
The original drawing with measurements is here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/4372032124/
(tiny)

I wish I was XS :-)

On Apr 19, 4:35 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 16:29 -0700, Lynne Fitz wrote:
> > Um, yeah, that's me :-)
>
> > What size is that Sweetpea?  Perfect size :-)  Custom :-)
>
> 60 cm, in other words?  (for it is well known that 60 cm is the perfect
> size for a 650B randonneur)
>
> No, seriously, what's the seat tube length?  I was trying to place your
> Sweetpea among the diagrams in the "Designing Small 650B Bicycles"
> article.
>
> > I've long since moved away from the springy Brooks back to the Terry
> > Butterfly.
>
> > And I can stuff that bag pretty full.
>
> Yes, but it takes fewer XXL items to fill one up than XS.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-19 Thread Steve Palincsar 
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 16:29 -0700, Lynne Fitz wrote:
> Um, yeah, that's me :-)
> 
> What size is that Sweetpea?  Perfect size :-)  Custom :-)

60 cm, in other words?  (for it is well known that 60 cm is the perfect
size for a 650B randonneur)

No, seriously, what's the seat tube length?  I was trying to place your
Sweetpea among the diagrams in the "Designing Small 650B Bicycles"
article.


> I've long since moved away from the springy Brooks back to the Terry
> Butterfly.
> 
> And I can stuff that bag pretty full.

Yes, but it takes fewer XXL items to fill one up than XS.


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[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-19 Thread Lynne Fitz 
Um, yeah, that's me :-)

What size is that Sweetpea?  Perfect size :-)  Custom :-)

I've long since moved away from the springy Brooks back to the Terry
Butterfly.

And I can stuff that bag pretty full.

Cheers,
Lynne F

On Apr 18, 4:00 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 15:46 -0700, Lynne Fitz wrote:
> > My bags are the Acorn Rando bag (front) and the Barley (rear).  I use
> > the Bagman support, because my seatpost has a kickback, and it was
> > bugging me that it was hitting my legs.  Plus tiny person, tiny bike -
> > the bag is better up on the support.
>
> > I have so far not needed any more luggage space, and have ridden rainy
> > 400k brevets (change of clothes!) and not-rainy 600k brevets (too much
> > food!)  I carry a spare tire, a couple of tubes, various other
> > stuff...  Too much other stuff.
>
> > With the springy Brooks, you'll want a support.
>
> But then, if that's you in the Spring 2012 BQ with your Sweetpea with
> the Acorn, the Barley and the Hutchinson 650Bx32 tires, it's obvious
> your clothes are pretty small and won't take up much room!
>
> Incidentally, what size is that Sweetpea?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-18 Thread Jim M. 
And another copper Legolas with Barley:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/6773347072/in/photostream

jim m
wc ca

On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:41:43 PM UTC-7, Mojo wrote:
>
> My take on the Barley, it is a great warm season day bag. It will not 
> carry more than a few items home from the store. Nor will it carry lots of 
> cold season wool. But it will carry 2 tubes/repair kit, mini-tool, vest, 
> arm/leg warmers, saddle cover, big lunch, camera, a third water bottle with 
> room to spare and that doesn't even include strapping stuff to the outside. 
> I use mine in the warm season then go to a Little Joe or SuperC for winter 
> riding.
> I like the Barley enough to own two:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/6922766182/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/6897752730/in/photostream/
>  
> Yehuda may recommend the Nelson:
> http://yehudamoon.com/index.php?date=2008-03-17
>  
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-18 Thread Mojo 
My take on the Barley, it is a great warm season day bag. It will not carry 
more than a few items home from the store. Nor will it carry lots of cold 
season wool. But it will carry 2 tubes/repair kit, mini-tool, vest, arm/leg 
warmers, saddle cover, big lunch, camera, a third water bottle with room to 
spare and that doesn't even include strapping stuff to the outside. I use 
mine in the warm season then go to a Little Joe or SuperC for winter riding.
I like the Barley enough to own two:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/6922766182/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/6897752730/in/photostream/
 
Yehuda may recommend the Nelson:
http://yehudamoon.com/index.php?date=2008-03-17
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-18 Thread Steve Palincsar 
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 15:46 -0700, Lynne Fitz wrote:
> My bags are the Acorn Rando bag (front) and the Barley (rear).  I use
> the Bagman support, because my seatpost has a kickback, and it was
> bugging me that it was hitting my legs.  Plus tiny person, tiny bike -
> the bag is better up on the support.
> 
> I have so far not needed any more luggage space, and have ridden rainy
> 400k brevets (change of clothes!) and not-rainy 600k brevets (too much
> food!)  I carry a spare tire, a couple of tubes, various other
> stuff...  Too much other stuff.
> 
> With the springy Brooks, you'll want a support.


But then, if that's you in the Spring 2012 BQ with your Sweetpea with
the Acorn, the Barley and the Hutchinson 650Bx32 tires, it's obvious
your clothes are pretty small and won't take up much room!

Incidentally, what size is that Sweetpea?





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[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-18 Thread Lynne Fitz 
My bags are the Acorn Rando bag (front) and the Barley (rear).  I use
the Bagman support, because my seatpost has a kickback, and it was
bugging me that it was hitting my legs.  Plus tiny person, tiny bike -
the bag is better up on the support.

I have so far not needed any more luggage space, and have ridden rainy
400k brevets (change of clothes!) and not-rainy 600k brevets (too much
food!)  I carry a spare tire, a couple of tubes, various other
stuff...  Too much other stuff.

With the springy Brooks, you'll want a support.

Lynne F

On Apr 17, 2:36 pm, Peter M  wrote:
> Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if
> anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you
> need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and
> will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help
> anyone can offer.

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[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-18 Thread Ginz 
Barley is great.  But, how high is your saddle relative to your rear
tire?   The Barley was my choice because I ride very small frames and,
still, the Barley drooped over my fender.  An uplift might help but I
have not tried it.

I once owned the SQR uplift. However, with a low saddle also comes
little seatpost exposure and no room for the SQR.

I'm just full of complaints today!!

Ginz

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[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-18 Thread doc 
Jay,

I had a Super C for a while and agree that the plastic clips are much
better; but I just couldn't live with the black v. the olive that I
prefer.  I guess I put a little too much stock on looks.

doc

On Apr 18, 10:18 am, Jay in Tel Aviv  wrote:
> My usual commuting bag is a Carradice Super C, which is similar in
> size to the Nelson and Camper but with plastic clips instead of straps
> and buckles.
> Much easier.
>
> Jay
>
> On Apr 18, 1:44 pm, doc  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I found the Barley too small for day rides and went with the Pendle.
> > For both bags I inserted hard plastic backing to help them maintain
> > their shape (cut from cat litter tubs).  For both sprung and unsprung
> > saddles, a Midlands bag support at $7.00 works great and keeps them
> > from swaying, plus prevents them rubbing up against the backs of my
> > thighs.
>
> > I love the looks of the Carradice, but I wish they had different
> > fasteners than the traditional buckles.  They can be cumbersome,
> > especially in winter when wearing a pair of gloves.
>
> > On Apr 17, 11:59 pm, charlie  wrote:
>
> > > Thought of Barley until I purchased a Nelson Longflap...and glad I
> > > did. The Barley would be too small except in ideal weather (for me) In
> > > the summer I use a Banana bag for tools,tube, wallet and phone but in
> > > the rainy Northwest I need capacity for rain gear and a change of
> > > clothing etc. for the other nine months of the year. I imagine a
> > > Barley would be a nice bag to leave on all year with perhaps another
> > > (maybe a front bag) to supplement. I rack my Nelson now and am in the
> > > process of building a spartan rack / bag support / light mount. This
> > > rack will be made with the idea of adding and extension piece for a
> > > full rack when I want to camp or whatever. Still working on the
> > > design...with bags more is better when you actually want to carry
> > > stuff. When you go big you find stuff to carry that you might actually
> > > need or want to make cycling more enjoyable and less of a "stranded in
> > > the middle of nowhere without what you need athletic event."   ; )
>
> > > On Apr 17, 2:36 pm, Peter M  wrote:
>
> > > > Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if
> > > > anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you
> > > > need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and
> > > > will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help
> > > > anyone can offer.- Hide quoted text -
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-18 Thread Peter Morgano 
Awesome diagrams Phillip, those are helpful.  Of course as is the often the
case the deep info here from the group has made my choice all the more
complicated, haha. But too many choices are always better than too few I
say.  Thanks all.

Peter

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Philip Williamson <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Peter,
> The Barley is the smallest Carradice bag. I use the Cadet, and think the
> Barley would be too small for me.
>
> I made some illustrations of the relative sizes of the smaller bags:
>
> http://www.biketinker.com/2011/bike-resources/relative-sizes-of-smaller-carradice-bags/
>
> The next size up from the Cadet (last shown), is the Nelson Lowsaddle,
> which adds side pockets.
>
>  Philip
>
> Philip Williamson
> www.biketinker.com
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:36:31 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>
>> Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if
>> anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you
>> need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and
>> will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help
>> anyone can offer.
>
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[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-18 Thread Philip Williamson 
Hi Peter,
The Barley is the smallest Carradice bag. I use the Cadet, and think the 
Barley would be too small for me. 

I made some illustrations of the relative sizes of the smaller bags:
http://www.biketinker.com/2011/bike-resources/relative-sizes-of-smaller-carradice-bags/
 
The next size up from the Cadet (last shown), is the Nelson Lowsaddle, 
which adds side pockets.

 Philip

Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com

On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:36:31 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>
> Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if 
> anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you 
> need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and 
> will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help 
> anyone can offer.

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[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-18 Thread Greg J 
Peter, 

Only you can decide whether it is too small for your intended purpose.  I 
have a Barley, a Lowsaddle Longflap, and a Nelson LF, and they all have 
different uses.  The Barley is good for a day trip to bring extra clothing, 
some food, books, etc.  Not really for carrying groceries or such.  But, 
you will likely not need a rack or other support for it.  It is small 
enough that if you ride a bike bigger than 52 or so, it probably won't rub 
the tire, and because of its size, you will probably not load it too 
heavily.

I ride ~54 bikes, and I use a SQR for my LSLF.

Greg

On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:36:31 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>
> Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if 
> anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you 
> need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and 
> will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help 
> anyone can offer.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-18 Thread PATRICK MOORE 
+1 for the SQR. I've owned at least three, probably more, and have
sold them all after (cyclically) going back to rack+panniers, but I
agree that for a QR mount, for a saddle that does not have saddlebag
strap slots, and for bikes where you need to hold the bag high to gain
more clearance over the rear tire, the SQR is the best solution I've
found.

Note that it does have a 10 kg/22 lb weight limit (per Carradice).
Note also that you can, if you are careful and fastidious about
pulling the straps as tight as you can, easily mount a saddlebag on
the rails of a non-Brooks saddle -- the Hoss on my trike is so mounted
and carries 30 lb loads easily and well.

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Michael Hechmer  wrote:
> Carradice Barley and the Acorn Boxy Rando Bag are my two main bags.  You can
> fit an amazing amount of stuff into a Barley Bag.  I use mine with the
> Carradice SQR, which I also really like but I think if your bike is tall
> enough with enough seatpost to keep the bag off the fender or tire I  you
> could get along without a support.  Carradice makes a bag support that
> attaches to the saddle rails but I'm not sure if that would work with a
> sprung saddle, and some people have reported difficulty keeping it tight..
>  The SQR attaches to the seat post and is absolutely the quickest on & off
> the bike you can get.  I have an extra seat post attachment so I can move
> the bag between bikes.  Harris Cycles carries all the parts.  BTW, the
> Carradice site could lead you to believe that the SQR goes with an SQR
> designed bag; that's not true, almost any bag with saddle & seatpost straps
> will work.   It does allow some back and forth movement which I notice while
> climbing standing up, but there is no lateral movement at all.
>
> Short answer... a great bag.
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 5:36:31 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote:
>>
>> Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if
>> anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you
>> need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and
>> will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help
>> anyone can offer.
>
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[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-18 Thread Jim M. 
On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 3:48:29 AM UTC-7, newenglandbike wrote:
>
> Another vote for the barley being a tad small.Good bag, but other than 
> tools/spare tube and a sweater you're not fitting much in there. For 
> Carradice, my faves are the camper and camper longflap.BUT you should 
> take a long hard look at a Saddlesack Medium or Large.   Those bags 
> combined with a nitto top rack are ridiculously useful and well designed.
>

In my experience the Barley is the perfect size for all day explores. I had 
a medium Saddlesack; it's a great bag but I found it much bigger than I 
would need for less than several days out. I pack light and live in N. 
California, which has some weather but generally nothing too extreme. I use 
a Hupe, but it's to keep the bag back; I don't need it for tire clearance.

jim m
wc ca

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[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-18 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv 
My usual commuting bag is a Carradice Super C, which is similar in
size to the Nelson and Camper but with plastic clips instead of straps
and buckles.
Much easier.

Jay


On Apr 18, 1:44 pm, doc  wrote:
> I found the Barley too small for day rides and went with the Pendle.
> For both bags I inserted hard plastic backing to help them maintain
> their shape (cut from cat litter tubs).  For both sprung and unsprung
> saddles, a Midlands bag support at $7.00 works great and keeps them
> from swaying, plus prevents them rubbing up against the backs of my
> thighs.
>
> I love the looks of the Carradice, but I wish they had different
> fasteners than the traditional buckles.  They can be cumbersome,
> especially in winter when wearing a pair of gloves.
>
> On Apr 17, 11:59 pm, charlie  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thought of Barley until I purchased a Nelson Longflap...and glad I
> > did. The Barley would be too small except in ideal weather (for me) In
> > the summer I use a Banana bag for tools,tube, wallet and phone but in
> > the rainy Northwest I need capacity for rain gear and a change of
> > clothing etc. for the other nine months of the year. I imagine a
> > Barley would be a nice bag to leave on all year with perhaps another
> > (maybe a front bag) to supplement. I rack my Nelson now and am in the
> > process of building a spartan rack / bag support / light mount. This
> > rack will be made with the idea of adding and extension piece for a
> > full rack when I want to camp or whatever. Still working on the
> > design...with bags more is better when you actually want to carry
> > stuff. When you go big you find stuff to carry that you might actually
> > need or want to make cycling more enjoyable and less of a "stranded in
> > the middle of nowhere without what you need athletic event."   ; )
>
> > On Apr 17, 2:36 pm, Peter M  wrote:
>
> > > Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if
> > > anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you
> > > need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and
> > > will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help
> > > anyone can offer.

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[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-18 Thread newenglandbike 
Another vote for the barley being a tad small.Good bag, but other than 
tools/spare tube and a sweater you're not fitting much in there. For 
Carradice, my faves are the camper and camper longflap.BUT you should 
take a long hard look at a Saddlesack Medium or Large.   Those bags 
combined with a nitto top rack are ridiculously useful and well designed.

-Matt

On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 6:44:58 AM UTC-4, doc wrote:
>
> I found the Barley too small for day rides and went with the Pendle. 
> For both bags I inserted hard plastic backing to help them maintain 
> their shape (cut from cat litter tubs).  For both sprung and unsprung 
> saddles, a Midlands bag support at $7.00 works great and keeps them 
> from swaying, plus prevents them rubbing up against the backs of my 
> thighs. 
>
> I love the looks of the Carradice, but I wish they had different 
> fasteners than the traditional buckles.  They can be cumbersome, 
> especially in winter when wearing a pair of gloves. 
>
> On Apr 17, 11:59 pm, charlie  wrote: 
> > Thought of Barley until I purchased a Nelson Longflap...and glad I 
> > did. The Barley would be too small except in ideal weather (for me) In 
> > the summer I use a Banana bag for tools,tube, wallet and phone but in 
> > the rainy Northwest I need capacity for rain gear and a change of 
> > clothing etc. for the other nine months of the year. I imagine a 
> > Barley would be a nice bag to leave on all year with perhaps another 
> > (maybe a front bag) to supplement. I rack my Nelson now and am in the 
> > process of building a spartan rack / bag support / light mount. This 
> > rack will be made with the idea of adding and extension piece for a 
> > full rack when I want to camp or whatever. Still working on the 
> > design...with bags more is better when you actually want to carry 
> > stuff. When you go big you find stuff to carry that you might actually 
> > need or want to make cycling more enjoyable and less of a "stranded in 
> > the middle of nowhere without what you need athletic event."   ; ) 
> > 
> > On Apr 17, 2:36 pm, Peter M  wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if 
> > > anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you 
> > > need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and 
> > > will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help 
> > > anyone can offer.

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[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-18 Thread doc 
I found the Barley too small for day rides and went with the Pendle.
For both bags I inserted hard plastic backing to help them maintain
their shape (cut from cat litter tubs).  For both sprung and unsprung
saddles, a Midlands bag support at $7.00 works great and keeps them
from swaying, plus prevents them rubbing up against the backs of my
thighs.

I love the looks of the Carradice, but I wish they had different
fasteners than the traditional buckles.  They can be cumbersome,
especially in winter when wearing a pair of gloves.

On Apr 17, 11:59 pm, charlie  wrote:
> Thought of Barley until I purchased a Nelson Longflap...and glad I
> did. The Barley would be too small except in ideal weather (for me) In
> the summer I use a Banana bag for tools,tube, wallet and phone but in
> the rainy Northwest I need capacity for rain gear and a change of
> clothing etc. for the other nine months of the year. I imagine a
> Barley would be a nice bag to leave on all year with perhaps another
> (maybe a front bag) to supplement. I rack my Nelson now and am in the
> process of building a spartan rack / bag support / light mount. This
> rack will be made with the idea of adding and extension piece for a
> full rack when I want to camp or whatever. Still working on the
> design...with bags more is better when you actually want to carry
> stuff. When you go big you find stuff to carry that you might actually
> need or want to make cycling more enjoyable and less of a "stranded in
> the middle of nowhere without what you need athletic event."   ; )
>
> On Apr 17, 2:36 pm, Peter M  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if
> > anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you
> > need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and
> > will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help
> > anyone can offer.

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[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-17 Thread charlie 
Thought of Barley until I purchased a Nelson Longflap...and glad I
did. The Barley would be too small except in ideal weather (for me) In
the summer I use a Banana bag for tools,tube, wallet and phone but in
the rainy Northwest I need capacity for rain gear and a change of
clothing etc. for the other nine months of the year. I imagine a
Barley would be a nice bag to leave on all year with perhaps another
(maybe a front bag) to supplement. I rack my Nelson now and am in the
process of building a spartan rack / bag support / light mount. This
rack will be made with the idea of adding and extension piece for a
full rack when I want to camp or whatever. Still working on the
design...with bags more is better when you actually want to carry
stuff. When you go big you find stuff to carry that you might actually
need or want to make cycling more enjoyable and less of a "stranded in
the middle of nowhere without what you need athletic event."   ; )

On Apr 17, 2:36 pm, Peter M  wrote:
> Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if
> anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you
> need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and
> will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help
> anyone can offer.

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[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-17 Thread Bill M. 
I have a Barley, no support needed for me on a 56 Riv Road.  It's a nice 
size for a day ride in transitional weather, just big enough for the 
essentials and an extra layer or two of clothing.  

It's never been on a sprung Brooks, but have had my Nelson on a Champion 
Flyer.  With the bag suspended from the sadldle loops, the springs cut way 
into the bag's capacity.  I preferred it with the straps through the bottom 
coils of the springs even though it then sits more horizontal than I would 
like.  The loop springs of a B72 may not pose so much of an issue.  I don't 
think a Bagman would mount to a B72, so if you need a support the SQR would 
be the best bet.  I suspect that on most bikes a Barley isn't big enough to 
rest on a Hupe.  

Bill
Stockton, CA

On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:36:31 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>
> Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if 
> anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you 
> need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and 
> will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help 
> anyone can offer.

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[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-17 Thread Mike 
My Carradice bags, Barley and Nelson LF, have seen quite a bit of use
over the years:

http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=41335973@N00&q=carradice

You definitely don't need supports with either of them. I picked up
supports through Wiggle a few years ago because they were so cheap and
they do make it easier to root around in the bag but they're not
essential. One thing about the Barley is that it moves around a lot,
especially when pedaling standing up. For day trips when you want to
bring extra items it's great.

I'm hoping to do an ultralight weekend trip later this year using just
my Berthoud HB bag and the Nelson. I should be able to manage.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-17 Thread jinxed 
Yep. I'll agree with all points. The barley is a fantastic sized bag. It 
holds a surprising amount of stuff and I often call it my tardis bag. One 
aspect I really like are the two side pockets that allow for a bit 
of organization. I keep the right pocket packed with spare tube, patch kit, 
C02, and multi tool, the right one perfectly holds my digital camera for 
quick access. That leaves the main pouch open for food, clothes, 
entertainment, supplies etc.

The Barley was the first bag I purchased and has done everything I've 
needed. I have loaded it to the gills and never used a bag support. It's 
close to the tire when stuffed, but never hit. PBH of 85.

Previously mine 52 Bomba with the 
Barley

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[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-17 Thread SISDDWG 
The Barley Bag is very nice. I didn't need any support for it. The
Barley fists quite nicely tucked under the saddle and strapped to the
seat post. I have no information on the B72.

On Apr 17, 2:36 pm, Peter M  wrote:
> Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if
> anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you
> need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and
> will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help
> anyone can offer.

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[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley

2012-04-17 Thread Michael Hechmer 
Carradice Barley and the Acorn Boxy Rando Bag are my two main bags.  You 
can fit an amazing amount of stuff into a Barley Bag.  I use mine with the 
Carradice SQR, which I also really like but I think if your bike is tall 
enough with enough seatpost to keep the bag off the fender or tire I  you 
could get along without a support.  Carradice makes a bag support that 
attaches to the saddle rails but I'm not sure if that would work with a 
sprung saddle, and some people have reported difficulty keeping it tight.. 
 The SQR attaches to the seat post and is absolutely the quickest on & off 
the bike you can get.  I have an extra seat post attachment so I can move 
the bag between bikes.  Harris Cycles carries all the parts.  BTW, the 
Carradice site could lead you to believe that the SQR goes with an SQR 
designed bag; that's not true, almost any bag with saddle & seatpost straps 
will work.   It does allow some back and forth movement which I notice 
while climbing standing up, but there is no lateral movement at all.

Short answer... a great bag.

Michael

On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 5:36:31 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote:
>
> Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if 
> anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you 
> need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and 
> will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help 
> anyone can offer.

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