[RBW] Re: Rambouillet/etc owners fat tire advice

2012-06-10 Thread Bill M.
My Road Standard currently wears nominal 32 mm Vittoria Randonneur Hypers.  
On Velocity A23 rims they measure a good 34 mm wide.  They shouldn't fit 
under short reach brakes, but they do.  I weigh about 180, and don't carry 
significant loads on that bike.  I can run as low as 60 front, 70 rear 
which is  what I used yesterday and today.  Lower than that starts to feel 
too squishy and vague.  Optimum for me might be 65/75.

The bike does handle a bit better with 28's, and after the next bike 
shuffle it will wind up going back to 28 mm Rubino's.

Bill

On Thursday, June 7, 2012 4:09:18 PM UTC-7, JL wrote:
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I might just be the kind of person that finds a happy mid zone in the 
> 700x28c tire as I can't seem to enjoy riding my rambouillet with anything 
> larger.  I do like supple, large volume, tires.  I ride big plush 650b 
> tires or round 559 slicks on other bikes.  On the Ram a 32mm or larger tire 
> feels too bouncy/springy.  I looked into information about tire pressure 
> but it was confusing.  Jan Heine's chart about 15% deformation and load 
> distribution claims that at my weight (175lbs with the bike) I should ride 
> pressures in the 30s for 32mm tires - that seems very low.
>
> Right now I ride various 28mm tires at about 80psi front and 90psi rear.
>
> What setup (psi tires etc) are people enjoying on their 700c road bikes 
> (in riv terms that is: RS, LL, Ram, Rom, Leg, AHH, Rodeo, Customs)? 
>
> Is personal size as much of an issue and I am expecting it to be?  I am 
> 5'8" and 150lbs if I round up.  I expect that tire sizes would feel 
> different for someone who is 6'3" and proportionally heavier.  
>
> Why change my setup if it isn't broken?  Just to try new options and 
> experiment with bike fit.
>
> Thanks
> JL
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet/etc owners fat tire advice

2012-06-10 Thread charlie
Back when I weight 168 pounds I could ride 23mm tires at 70 psi on
smooth asphalt. these days ( 92 pounds heavier) I ride a 35mm at
80 psi and a 38mm at 70psi. 32's require 90+psi and are annoyingly
buzzy (for me) on local chip seal roads.so I went to the 35's at
80 psi which is my personal lower limit. I think lighter riders can
get away with more and also less pressure. Lets face it, high pressure
narrow tires are faster on smooth surfaces and light riders can ride
them more comfortably and safely than the rest of us. At your weight a
28mm tire is fine at whatever pressure the tire performs best at on
the surfaces you ride on.

On Jun 7, 4:09 pm, JL  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I might just be the kind of person that finds a happy mid zone in the
> 700x28c tire as I can't seem to enjoy riding my rambouillet with anything
> larger.  I do like supple, large volume, tires.  I ride big plush 650b
> tires or round 559 slicks on other bikes.  On the Ram a 32mm or larger tire
> feels too bouncy/springy.  I looked into information about tire pressure
> but it was confusing.  Jan Heine's chart about 15% deformation and load
> distribution claims that at my weight (175lbs with the bike) I should ride
> pressures in the 30s for 32mm tires - that seems very low.
>
> Right now I ride various 28mm tires at about 80psi front and 90psi rear.
>
> What setup (psi tires etc) are people enjoying on their 700c road bikes (in
> riv terms that is: RS, LL, Ram, Rom, Leg, AHH, Rodeo, Customs)?
>
> Is personal size as much of an issue and I am expecting it to be?  I am
> 5'8" and 150lbs if I round up.  I expect that tire sizes would feel
> different for someone who is 6'3" and proportionally heavier.
>
> Why change my setup if it isn't broken?  Just to try new options and
> experiment with bike fit.
>
> Thanks
> JL

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet/etc owners fat tire advice

2012-06-07 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
I try to keep my 32-622 Supremes at 60 psi in front and 80 rear.
With my 170 lbs and ~ 10 lbs of gear the ride gets sluggish when I
start to lose pressure.
More that that feels harsh.

Jay

On Jun 8, 2:09 am, JL  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I might just be the kind of person that finds a happy mid zone in the
> 700x28c tire as I can't seem to enjoy riding my rambouillet with anything
> larger.  I do like supple, large volume, tires.  I ride big plush 650b
> tires or round 559 slicks on other bikes.  On the Ram a 32mm or larger tire
> feels too bouncy/springy.  I looked into information about tire pressure
> but it was confusing.  Jan Heine's chart about 15% deformation and load
> distribution claims that at my weight (175lbs with the bike) I should ride
> pressures in the 30s for 32mm tires - that seems very low.
>
> Right now I ride various 28mm tires at about 80psi front and 90psi rear.
>
> What setup (psi tires etc) are people enjoying on their 700c road bikes (in
> riv terms that is: RS, LL, Ram, Rom, Leg, AHH, Rodeo, Customs)?
>
> Is personal size as much of an issue and I am expecting it to be?  I am
> 5'8" and 150lbs if I round up.  I expect that tire sizes would feel
> different for someone who is 6'3" and proportionally heavier.
>
> Why change my setup if it isn't broken?  Just to try new options and
> experiment with bike fit.
>
> Thanks
> JL

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet/etc owners fat tire advice

2012-06-07 Thread reynoldslugs
I'm with Peter.

I weigh 205  lbs, my Rambouillet rides on Kojaks (which measure 32 mm)
pumped up to60 front, 80 to 85 rear.  Comfy front, zippy rear, it's
groovy.

Max

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet/etc owners fat tire advice

2012-06-07 Thread pb
Hmmn, I'm baffled by your comments.  I'm 6'1", 200, and I have 33's on my 
Ram.  I drank deeply of the Kool Aid, and tried them at low pressure, hated 
it, the bike felt like a slug, and I promptly notched 'em up, five pounds 
at a time, until I got to 90, where the bike came back to life for me.  (I 
know, it's all in my mind, and they're actually running vastly slower than 
they would if I kept them at, say, 65.  That's OK -- I can use the 
handicap.)   
 
Even as high-pressure-oriented as I am, at your weight and pressures I 
don't know how a 32 could be feeling "bouncy". 
 
 ~Peter
 
 

On Thursday, June 7, 2012 4:09:18 PM UTC-7, JL wrote:

>
> Hello all,
>
> I might just be the kind of person that finds a happy mid zone in the 
> 700x28c tire as I can't seem to enjoy riding my rambouillet with anything 
> larger.  I do like supple, large volume, tires.  I ride big plush 650b 
> tires or round 559 slicks on other bikes.  On the Ram a 32mm or larger tire 
> feels too bouncy/springy.  I looked into information about tire pressure 
> but it was confusing.  Jan Heine's chart about 15% deformation and load 
> distribution claims that at my weight (175lbs with the bike) I should ride 
> pressures in the 30s for 32mm tires - that seems very low.
>
> Right now I ride various 28mm tires at about 80psi front and 90psi rear.
>
> What setup (psi tires etc) are people enjoying on their 700c road bikes 
> (in riv terms that is: RS, LL, Ram, Rom, Leg, AHH, Rodeo, Customs)? 
>
> Is personal size as much of an issue and I am expecting it to be?  I am 
> 5'8" and 150lbs if I round up.  I expect that tire sizes would feel 
> different for someone who is 6'3" and proportionally heavier.  
>
> Why change my setup if it isn't broken?  Just to try new options and 
> experiment with bike fit.
>
> Thanks
> JL
>
>
>
>
>
>

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