Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books

2013-08-24 Thread Christopher Chen
Thanks Tom! I love the thinking that went into this "hack". From the safety
loop to the "grab" ziptie. Excellent!

cc


On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 2:52 AM, Tom Harrop  wrote:

> OK, here 'tis. You can see I've used a piece of string to stop the cord
> slipping out, and a few centimetres of zip tie, which one can grab in order
> to pull the cord around the rack.
>
> By the way, the torn leather is from a separate incident when my bike fell
> over with the bag tightly strapped on with an Irish strap. Beausage?
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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books

2013-08-23 Thread Matt Beebe
I use a QR with the large saddlesack, but do not secure the bag to the 
rack.It just floats on top, never had any problems even riding off road 
this way.



On Friday, August 23, 2013 4:52:52 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote:
>
> Another vote for saddlesacks.  I have a large, in which I can stuff books, 
> papers and a laptop for commuting between home, work and a course I'm 
> teaching at the university.  
>  
> One question:  Does anyone use the quick release with a large saddlesack?  
> If so, do you have a good method for quick release of the sack from the 
> rack?  I'm thinking to just run a strap through it and the rack, but a bit 
> of a fiddle to get on and off.  Currently I have it zip tied to the rack.
> TIA
>  
> Jim in Boulder
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:40:35 PM UTC-6, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
>> With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for 
>> recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for 
>> ferrying books & a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring.  Each has a 
>> rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first 
>> thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). 
>> Suggestions appreciated.  --Tom in Miami
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books

2013-08-23 Thread Tom Goodmann
Loads of good ideas, as usual on this list.  Tom, a photo would be great; I
like the home remedy!  Several recommendations, then, for the medium or
large Saddlesack (also a handsome bag). Swift Industries Mini Rolltop
panniers are the other choice I have in mind: MUSA; waxed canvas option;
two panniers for the price (+ options) of one Saddlesack. Really a question
of preference, as both are attractive options.


On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Tom Harrop  wrote:

> Jim,
>
> I use a bungee ball on the bottom of my large SaddleSack. The cord loops
> through the leather on the bottom of the bag and around the top of the
> rack. It holds nice and secure. It's not exactly quick release, but it's
> quickER release... personally I find it more time-consuming (we're talking
> seconds here) but less irritating than the Ortlieb pannier system. I use my
> SaddleSack for commuting and take the bag off whenever I leave the bike,
> including for quick stops at the grocery store on the way home. It may be
> too much of a fiddle for some people though.
>
> Before I thought of the bungee ball I was using a John's Irish strap. That
> was also OK, but it's more difficult to feed the strap through the buckle
> than it is to engage a bungee ball, so the bungee ball was a step in the
> right direction. It was further improved when I started using a
> half-cut-off zip tie to feed the bungee cord through the rack. I'm not
> explaining this very well—be happy to post a photo if it helps.
>
> Tom
> Germany
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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books

2013-08-23 Thread Tom Harrop
Jim,

I use a bungee ball on the bottom of my large SaddleSack. The cord loops 
through the leather on the bottom of the bag and around the top of the 
rack. It holds nice and secure. It's not exactly quick release, but it's 
quickER release... personally I find it more time-consuming (we're talking 
seconds here) but less irritating than the Ortlieb pannier system. I use my 
SaddleSack for commuting and take the bag off whenever I leave the bike, 
including for quick stops at the grocery store on the way home. It may be 
too much of a fiddle for some people though.

Before I thought of the bungee ball I was using a John's Irish strap. That 
was also OK, but it's more difficult to feed the strap through the buckle 
than it is to engage a bungee ball, so the bungee ball was a step in the 
right direction. It was further improved when I started using a 
half-cut-off zip tie to feed the bungee cord through the rack. I'm not 
explaining this very well—be happy to post a photo if it helps.

Tom
Germany

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books

2013-08-23 Thread Rick

>
> I only have the medium, but I just don't attach it to the rack.  Stays 
> pretty solid, but I did shake the hardware loose from the saddle on one 
> occasion, and had to reassamble roadside.  
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books

2013-08-23 Thread Jim
Another vote for saddlesacks.  I have a large, in which I can stuff books, 
papers and a laptop for commuting between home, work and a course I'm 
teaching at the university.  
 
One question:  Does anyone use the quick release with a large saddlesack?  
If so, do you have a good method for quick release of the sack from the 
rack?  I'm thinking to just run a strap through it and the rack, but a bit 
of a fiddle to get on and off.  Currently I have it zip tied to the rack.
TIA
 
Jim in Boulder

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:40:35 PM UTC-6, Tom Goodmann wrote:

> With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for 
> recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for 
> ferrying books & a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring.  Each has a 
> rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first 
> thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). 
> Suggestions appreciated.  --Tom in Miami
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books

2013-08-23 Thread Rick
I commute on the Atlantis, and 95 out of 100 days use the medium Sackville 
Saddlesack.  I have to tote books and files and some clothes and usually a 
thermos or two, occassionally my laptop, always an ipad and a spare 
keyboard.  Outside pockets are dedicated to my kit -- a mini pump, some 
tools, spare tubes (unused for years due to Schwalbe Marathon burliness, 
but just in case), everything else goes in the main pocket. It gets pretty 
full, and although it could (possibly) go without, I do have the nitto big 
rear rack for support.
 
I use the quick release adapter, which I love, because the bike is locked 
up in the parking garage.  One twist and my kit and stuff and bag are off 
the bike and safe from the ethically challenged.  Makes a perfectly fine 
handle to tote to and from the office; it's not a briefcase, but is as easy 
or easier to carry around as the Ortleib's I use on the weekends for 
grocery runs.  
 
I went to this system after several years with the Arkel laptop commuter 
bag, which was never quite large enough, but had the advantage of a 
shoulder strap.  It also was not (1) nearly as tough as the Saddlesack and 
(2) required me to pull out its separate waterproof cover when things got a 
little misty.  
 
The only thing I would change about the medium Saddlesack:  a pleat around 
the outside of the side pockets so that they would expand outward rather 
than intruding into the main compartment.  Maybe one day I'll get the 
large, but the medium is . . . quite big.  
 
Rick.
 

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:40:35 PM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote:

> With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for 
> recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for 
> ferrying books & a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring.  Each has a 
> rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first 
> thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). 
> Suggestions appreciated.  --Tom in Miami
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books

2013-08-23 Thread Matt Beebe
One other point about the large saddlesack:   if you use it with a QR 
saddlebag mount, it is super easy to take on and off the bike.   In fact, 
I'd put it up against anything in terms of ease of attachment/removal.



On Friday, August 23, 2013 9:55:20 AM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
>
> Tom, 
> Short Answer: another vote for a large Saddlesack. 
> Long Answer: be sure to think through your commuting process.  From 
> personal experience, I transitioned from panniers to a large Saxdlesack 
> because of my personal routine and preferences.  I commute several days a 
> week by bike and the other days by car or bus.  When I started bike 
> commuting, I liked panniers for the ease of attaching and removal from 
> bike.  Over time, though, I found transferring things from panniers to a 
> briefcase or a backpack tedious on the days I drove or took the bus.  (i am 
> sure there are panniers that convert to backpacks or briefcases to allow 
> easier transport off the bike.) The large Saddlesack is spacious enough to 
> hold my briefcase and/or backpack.  This keeps life more simple and 
> minimizes the likelihood I forget something in a bag at home.  The downside 
> to the large Saddlesack is that it is not as easy to switch it between 
> bikes as with a set of panniers.  Finally, a more permanently attach 
> Saddlesack might bring unwanted attention to your bike depending on where 
> you have to secure it at school. 
> All the best, 
> Erl

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books

2013-08-23 Thread Tom Goodmann
Thanks to all for the fine suggestions; good choices, and for the long haul
too. John Stowe: you put that front rack to many good uses, carrying two
loads we cannot yet get in South Florida: Fat Tire, and things from Trader
Joe's. We keep hearing happy rumors . . . .


On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:17 AM, John Stowe  wrote:

> If you decide go the pannier route: I got a Carradice Bike Bureau for grad
> school, which I'm very happy with. It swaps easily between my Sam Hillborne
> and my cyclocross bike. My only complaint is with the slightly fiddly
> locking mechanism on the Carradice hooks - I replaced them with Ortlieb QL1
> and now it's dead simple to just snatch up the bag and head inside, and
> drop it back on the rack after class.
>
> Of course, piling on a front rack works, too:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/edith_john_stowe/8433986241/
>
> -John
>
> On Friday, August 23, 2013 3:49:36 AM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote:
>>
>> I'd recommend the Saddlesack Large for books.I own both the Carradice
>> Nelson and Camper and they are great bags, but for books, the Saddlesack
>> bags with a rack are the way to go hands down.They so easy to use and
>> so spacious, they make carrying stuff on your bike a no-brainer.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:40:35 PM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>>
>>> With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for
>>> recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for
>>> ferrying books & a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring.  Each has a
>>> rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first
>>> thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup).
>>> Suggestions appreciated.  --Tom in Miami
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books

2013-08-23 Thread WETH
Tom,
Short Answer: another vote for a large Saddlesack.
Long Answer: be sure to think through your commuting process.  From personal 
experience, I transitioned from panniers to a large Saxdlesack because of my 
personal routine and preferences.  I commute several days a week by bike and 
the other days by car or bus.  When I started bike commuting, I liked panniers 
for the ease of attaching and removal from bike.  Over time, though, I found 
transferring things from panniers to a briefcase or a backpack tedious on the 
days I drove or took the bus.  (i am sure there are panniers that convert to 
backpacks or briefcases to allow easier transport off the bike.) The large 
Saddlesack is spacious enough to hold my briefcase and/or backpack.  This keeps 
life more simple and minimizes the likelihood I forget something in a bag at 
home.  The downside to the large Saddlesack is that it is not as easy to switch 
it between bikes as with a set of panniers.  Finally, a more permanently attach 
Saddlesack might bring unwanted attention to your bike depending on where you 
have to secure it at school.
All the best,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books

2013-08-23 Thread John Stowe
If you decide go the pannier route: I got a Carradice Bike Bureau for grad 
school, which I'm very happy with. It swaps easily between my Sam Hillborne 
and my cyclocross bike. My only complaint is with the slightly fiddly 
locking mechanism on the Carradice hooks - I replaced them with Ortlieb QL1 
and now it's dead simple to just snatch up the bag and head inside, and 
drop it back on the rack after class.

Of course, piling on a front rack works, too:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/edith_john_stowe/8433986241/

-John

On Friday, August 23, 2013 3:49:36 AM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote:
>
> I'd recommend the Saddlesack Large for books.I own both the Carradice 
> Nelson and Camper and they are great bags, but for books, the Saddlesack 
> bags with a rack are the way to go hands down.They so easy to use and 
> so spacious, they make carrying stuff on your bike a no-brainer.
>
> Matt
>
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:40:35 PM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>> With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for 
>> recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for 
>> ferrying books & a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring.  Each has a 
>> rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first 
>> thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). 
>> Suggestions appreciated.  --Tom in Miami
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books

2013-08-23 Thread Matt Beebe
I'd recommend the Saddlesack Large for books.I own both the Carradice 
Nelson and Camper and they are great bags, but for books, the Saddlesack 
bags with a rack are the way to go hands down.They so easy to use and 
so spacious, they make carrying stuff on your bike a no-brainer.

Matt


On Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:40:35 PM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
> With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for 
> recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for 
> ferrying books & a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring.  Each has a 
> rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first 
> thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). 
> Suggestions appreciated.  --Tom in Miami
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books

2013-08-22 Thread rob markwardt
I've got a Carradice "College" on my bike (how appropriate is that!).   
It's simple (no pockets), big, and relatively cheap.  

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/carradice-college-saddlebag-black-with-white-straps-15ltr-prod612/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/7225302000/in/set-72157633280115554


On Thursday, August 22, 2013 6:40:35 PM UTC-7, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
> With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for 
> recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for 
> ferrying books & a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring.  Each has a 
> rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first 
> thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). 
> Suggestions appreciated.  --Tom in Miami
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books

2013-08-22 Thread Andy Williams
Swift Industries also has saddle bags (and other good stuff) that are worth 
checking out...

http://builtbyswift.com

Andy

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books

2013-08-22 Thread Deacon Patrick
I love my large SaddleSack from Riv. Very stable and rides on top the rear 
rack.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:40:35 PM UTC-6, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
> With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for 
> recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for 
> ferrying books & a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring.  Each has a 
> rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first 
> thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). 
> Suggestions appreciated.  --Tom in Miami
>

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