Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[LF]

Patrick,
I like the ikea double-wall stainless (steel is real) espresso cups. I 
think they are made in Turkey.  Don't know if Ikea still sells them. They 
are 2 for ten bucks on ebay ... 
.
Best
Larry

On Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:25:48 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Thank you, Matthew, for that fantastic review of the Lido 2. It is on our 
> wish list.
>
> The Aeropress and Hario Slim grinder arrived yesterday. Holy smokes! The 
> Aeropress makes a wonderful strong shot of almost espresso. The Slim 
> grinder without the catch bin and with a couple of rubber bands fits 
> directly into the Aeropress and does a fine grind very well in a very 
> compact package. The whole family down to our 1 year old loves their coffee 
> strong (all decaf).
>
> Can anyone recommend a good travel espresso cup? Wide enough to receive 
> the Aeropress on top?  I prefer made in the USA and it needs to be hearty 
> stuff. I've searched and not found much satisfactory.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:06:43 AM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote:
>>
>> Sure.  Been thinking about filing a report but with my second grader 
>> attention span every time I come here I get distracted.
>>
>> First, this is definitely not a travel grinder.  Rather it is a handsome, 
>> heavy duty professional grade grinder that just happens to eschew the power 
>> grid in favor of a little elbow grease.  
>>
>> Lido arrived assembled and ready to use.  Quality is very high.  The 
>> brushed stainless steel and glass components look very good.  The look fits 
>> right in with my modern kitchen.  If you have a more traditional kitchen 
>> you may want to keep it in a cabinet when not in use.  
>>
>> The grinder burs are steel and easily the size of what you find in most 
>> heavy duty home electric burr grinders.  The first few times I used it 
>> spinning the handle was a little difficult.  This is consistent with the 
>> manual which says the steel burs require a break in period before optimal 
>> grinding ease.  Three weeks in grinding is much more smooth.  I expect it 
>> will get even easier as I continue to use.  A big plus with the larger size 
>> than Hario and similar grinders is you have to twist it less.
>>
>> Lido has infinite settings from very fine to coarse.  Changing setting is 
>> easy.  There are two stainless steel rings.  A large one that adjusts the 
>> burs and a smaller lock ring.  First grind I set it at the OE recommended 
>> setting for pour over.  This turned out to be somewhat too coarse for the 
>> beans I use anyway.  I made some micro adjustments the next few grinds 
>> until I had it just right.  Saturday I bought some different beans (new 
>> Brasil harvest is showing up at local stores) that required some 
>> adjustments.  Making the micro adjustments is easy.
>>
>> One thing I might want to change is the glass grind catch jar.  With 
>> winter's low humidity hanging around there is a lot of static.  The ground 
>> coffee clings to the side of the jar something fierce.  The glass is thick. 
>>  Still, I fear I will manage to break it.  It would be nice to have a 
>> stainless jar, although the look would be a little less clean.
>>
>> I fully expect the Lido will outlive me.  It is meant for the coffee nut. 
>>  If you are one of us, highly recommended.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:46:41 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> Matthew,
>>>
>>> Would you mind sharing a report of your experience with the Lido 2 so 
>>> far? My wife is thinking it makes sense as our home grinder, in large part 
>>> because the reports I've read say it is much smoother and easier to 
>>> operate, and less fiddly than the Hario et al. (though at 3 pounds and 12" 
>>> tall x 3" wide I won't be taking it on the bike -- I'm thinking the Hario 
>>> mini with rubber bands so it fits directly into an Aeropress for that).
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:51:38 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:

 A good electric grinder will easily cost several hundred dollars. 
  Commercial grinders go neat $1k if not over.

 I much prefer a manual as personally I would rather not use electricity 
 if there is a feasible alternative.  The problem with many of the less 
 expensive manual grinders is they either cannot adjust or if they do it is 
 more rube goldberg than what you get with a good electric.  Adjusting the 
 level of grind is important if you brew coffee in different ways as well 
 as 
 experiment with the type of beans and roast.

 The Lido in concept will have the same precise grind control one gets 
 from the high end grinders without using electricity.  I just wish the 
 darn 
 things would come in stock so I can try one out.

 On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:42:48 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:
>
> For folks that like lighter roast coffees, a blade grinder just simpl

Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Deacon Patrick]

Thank you, Matthew, for that fantastic review of the Lido 2. It is on our 
wish list.

The Aeropress and Hario Slim grinder arrived yesterday. Holy smokes! The 
Aeropress makes a wonderful strong shot of almost espresso. The Slim 
grinder without the catch bin and with a couple of rubber bands fits 
directly into the Aeropress and does a fine grind very well in a very 
compact package. The whole family down to our 1 year old loves their coffee 
strong (all decaf).

Can anyone recommend a good travel espresso cup? Wide enough to receive the 
Aeropress on top?  I prefer made in the USA and it needs to be hearty 
stuff. I've searched and not found much satisfactory.

With abandon,
Patrick


On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:06:43 AM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote:
>
> Sure.  Been thinking about filing a report but with my second grader 
> attention span every time I come here I get distracted.
>
> First, this is definitely not a travel grinder.  Rather it is a handsome, 
> heavy duty professional grade grinder that just happens to eschew the power 
> grid in favor of a little elbow grease.  
>
> Lido arrived assembled and ready to use.  Quality is very high.  The 
> brushed stainless steel and glass components look very good.  The look fits 
> right in with my modern kitchen.  If you have a more traditional kitchen 
> you may want to keep it in a cabinet when not in use.  
>
> The grinder burs are steel and easily the size of what you find in most 
> heavy duty home electric burr grinders.  The first few times I used it 
> spinning the handle was a little difficult.  This is consistent with the 
> manual which says the steel burs require a break in period before optimal 
> grinding ease.  Three weeks in grinding is much more smooth.  I expect it 
> will get even easier as I continue to use.  A big plus with the larger size 
> than Hario and similar grinders is you have to twist it less.
>
> Lido has infinite settings from very fine to coarse.  Changing setting is 
> easy.  There are two stainless steel rings.  A large one that adjusts the 
> burs and a smaller lock ring.  First grind I set it at the OE recommended 
> setting for pour over.  This turned out to be somewhat too coarse for the 
> beans I use anyway.  I made some micro adjustments the next few grinds 
> until I had it just right.  Saturday I bought some different beans (new 
> Brasil harvest is showing up at local stores) that required some 
> adjustments.  Making the micro adjustments is easy.
>
> One thing I might want to change is the glass grind catch jar.  With 
> winter's low humidity hanging around there is a lot of static.  The ground 
> coffee clings to the side of the jar something fierce.  The glass is thick. 
>  Still, I fear I will manage to break it.  It would be nice to have a 
> stainless jar, although the look would be a little less clean.
>
> I fully expect the Lido will outlive me.  It is meant for the coffee nut. 
>  If you are one of us, highly recommended.
>
> On Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:46:41 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Matthew,
>>
>> Would you mind sharing a report of your experience with the Lido 2 so 
>> far? My wife is thinking it makes sense as our home grinder, in large part 
>> because the reports I've read say it is much smoother and easier to 
>> operate, and less fiddly than the Hario et al. (though at 3 pounds and 12" 
>> tall x 3" wide I won't be taking it on the bike -- I'm thinking the Hario 
>> mini with rubber bands so it fits directly into an Aeropress for that).
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:51:38 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
>>>
>>> A good electric grinder will easily cost several hundred dollars. 
>>>  Commercial grinders go neat $1k if not over.
>>>
>>> I much prefer a manual as personally I would rather not use electricity 
>>> if there is a feasible alternative.  The problem with many of the less 
>>> expensive manual grinders is they either cannot adjust or if they do it is 
>>> more rube goldberg than what you get with a good electric.  Adjusting the 
>>> level of grind is important if you brew coffee in different ways as well as 
>>> experiment with the type of beans and roast.
>>>
>>> The Lido in concept will have the same precise grind control one gets 
>>> from the high end grinders without using electricity.  I just wish the darn 
>>> things would come in stock so I can try one out.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:42:48 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:

 For folks that like lighter roast coffees, a blade grinder just simply 
 doesn't provide anywhere near a consistent grind. Will a blade grinder 
 work 
 to make a cup of coffee? Absolutely. Some folks, myself included, will 
 tell 
 you that's better cup of coffee can be made with a consistent grind that a 
 burr grinder provides. 
 Manual, hand-powered grinders also mean you can grind beans anywhere 
 you'd like, which is wonderful for making coffee outside, which a lot of

Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Matthew J]

Sure.  Been thinking about filing a report but with my second grader 
attention span every time I come here I get distracted.

First, this is definitely not a travel grinder.  Rather it is a handsome, 
heavy duty professional grade grinder that just happens to eschew the power 
grid in favor of a little elbow grease.  

Lido arrived assembled and ready to use.  Quality is very high.  The 
brushed stainless steel and glass components look very good.  The look fits 
right in with my modern kitchen.  If you have a more traditional kitchen 
you may want to keep it in a cabinet when not in use.  

The grinder burs are steel and easily the size of what you find in most 
heavy duty home electric burr grinders.  The first few times I used it 
spinning the handle was a little difficult.  This is consistent with the 
manual which says the steel burs require a break in period before optimal 
grinding ease.  Three weeks in grinding is much more smooth.  I expect it 
will get even easier as I continue to use.  A big plus with the larger size 
than Hario and similar grinders is you have to twist it less.

Lido has infinite settings from very fine to coarse.  Changing setting is 
easy.  There are two stainless steel rings.  A large one that adjusts the 
burs and a smaller lock ring.  First grind I set it at the OE recommended 
setting for pour over.  This turned out to be somewhat too coarse for the 
beans I use anyway.  I made some micro adjustments the next few grinds 
until I had it just right.  Saturday I bought some different beans (new 
Brasil harvest is showing up at local stores) that required some 
adjustments.  Making the micro adjustments is easy.

One thing I might want to change is the glass grind catch jar.  With 
winter's low humidity hanging around there is a lot of static.  The ground 
coffee clings to the side of the jar something fierce.  The glass is thick. 
 Still, I fear I will manage to break it.  It would be nice to have a 
stainless jar, although the look would be a little less clean.

I fully expect the Lido will outlive me.  It is meant for the coffee nut. 
 If you are one of us, highly recommended.

On Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:46:41 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Matthew,
>
> Would you mind sharing a report of your experience with the Lido 2 so far? 
> My wife is thinking it makes sense as our home grinder, in large part 
> because the reports I've read say it is much smoother and easier to 
> operate, and less fiddly than the Hario et al. (though at 3 pounds and 12" 
> tall x 3" wide I won't be taking it on the bike -- I'm thinking the Hario 
> mini with rubber bands so it fits directly into an Aeropress for that).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:51:38 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
>>
>> A good electric grinder will easily cost several hundred dollars. 
>>  Commercial grinders go neat $1k if not over.
>>
>> I much prefer a manual as personally I would rather not use electricity 
>> if there is a feasible alternative.  The problem with many of the less 
>> expensive manual grinders is they either cannot adjust or if they do it is 
>> more rube goldberg than what you get with a good electric.  Adjusting the 
>> level of grind is important if you brew coffee in different ways as well as 
>> experiment with the type of beans and roast.
>>
>> The Lido in concept will have the same precise grind control one gets 
>> from the high end grinders without using electricity.  I just wish the darn 
>> things would come in stock so I can try one out.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:42:48 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:
>>>
>>> For folks that like lighter roast coffees, a blade grinder just simply 
>>> doesn't provide anywhere near a consistent grind. Will a blade grinder work 
>>> to make a cup of coffee? Absolutely. Some folks, myself included, will tell 
>>> you that's better cup of coffee can be made with a consistent grind that a 
>>> burr grinder provides. 
>>> Manual, hand-powered grinders also mean you can grind beans anywhere 
>>> you'd like, which is wonderful for making coffee outside, which a lot of 
>>> folks seem to be interested in these days when combined with bicycle 
>>> journeys of any length. 
>>> David
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Deacon Patrick]

Matthew,

Would you mind sharing a report of your experience with the Lido 2 so far? 
My wife is thinking it makes sense as our home grinder, in large part 
because the reports I've read say it is much smoother and easier to 
operate, and less fiddly than the Hario et al. (though at 3 pounds and 12" 
tall x 3" wide I won't be taking it on the bike -- I'm thinking the Hario 
mini with rubber bands so it fits directly into an Aeropress for that).

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:51:38 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
>
> A good electric grinder will easily cost several hundred dollars. 
>  Commercial grinders go neat $1k if not over.
>
> I much prefer a manual as personally I would rather not use electricity if 
> there is a feasible alternative.  The problem with many of the less 
> expensive manual grinders is they either cannot adjust or if they do it is 
> more rube goldberg than what you get with a good electric.  Adjusting the 
> level of grind is important if you brew coffee in different ways as well as 
> experiment with the type of beans and roast.
>
> The Lido in concept will have the same precise grind control one gets from 
> the high end grinders without using electricity.  I just wish the darn 
> things would come in stock so I can try one out.
>
> On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:42:48 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:
>>
>> For folks that like lighter roast coffees, a blade grinder just simply 
>> doesn't provide anywhere near a consistent grind. Will a blade grinder work 
>> to make a cup of coffee? Absolutely. Some folks, myself included, will tell 
>> you that's better cup of coffee can be made with a consistent grind that a 
>> burr grinder provides. 
>> Manual, hand-powered grinders also mean you can grind beans anywhere 
>> you'd like, which is wonderful for making coffee outside, which a lot of 
>> folks seem to be interested in these days when combined with bicycle 
>> journeys of any length. 
>> David
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[LF]

Deacon, my friend, you are also ready for coffee geek: 
 (good 
combo with aeropress)  for bikepacking AND a Baratza Encore for home 
. 
Read Coffeegeek for more information. Maybe we could start a barefoot 
coffee forum?
Best,
Larry

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:54:25 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:
>
> — Home
> — Bikepacking
> (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: 
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846)
>
> It’s interesting. I’m discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well 
> brewed (which I learned how to do through this group — thank you!) helps my 
> brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to 
> get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I’m planning on 
> making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh 
> found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing 
> it well. And I don’t even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Matthew J]

Orphan Espresso Lido 2 arrived last night.  Box and all packaging are 
definitely mainly recycled content.  Plus one before opening.

On assembly can definitely say this is not a touring manual grinder. 
 Unless of course you are one of those hard core complete loaded trailer 
tourers.  

Lido2 assembled is more than a foot high.  And it is very heavy. 
 Definitely over ten pounds.  Lido2 is definitely appears to be more a 
manual powered version of the high end electric grinders such as those made 
by Rancilio and Mazzer than a fancy Hario manual.  Handle, shaft, burr 
grinder and grind selector all have a very heavy duty commercial look and 
feel.

Unfortunately woke to a raging snow storm this a.m. so had to live for work 
without making coffee at home.  Hope to give it a full work out this 
weekend. If this thing works as good as it looks, I expect to be quite 
pleased.

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Deacon Patrick]

Och, naught to apologize for, Ron. I just suspect my coffee experiment has 
come to a halt. Now that's disappointing. If the "benefits" I was feeling 
was due to the small amount of caffeine in the decaf, then I'm paying a 
price long term to feel better short term. I'll stick to trail riding! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 4:45:01 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Deac, you have to forgive those of us who scratch around for our morning 
> caffeine.  
>
> On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:43:32 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Aye. It's a bad thing with my brain injury.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:40:46 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>>
>>> "...and feel the effects of caffeine..."
>>> That's a bad thing? 
>>>
>>> I did get my best Strava time up the local mini-climb after eating 4 
>>> chocolate covered espresso beans. New tires and being 10 lbs lighter 
>>> may have had some bearing on that, too, but I'm going with the caffeine. 
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> www.biketinker.com
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:02:30 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I ate 3 decaf (Swiss Water Method) beans and feel the effects of 
 caffeine (decaf not being 100% caffeine free, of course). The non-cook 
 method may not be viable. Hmm.


 With abandon,

 Patrick

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Ron Mc]

Deac, you have to forgive those of us who scratch around for our morning 
caffeine.  

On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:43:32 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Aye. It's a bad thing with my brain injury.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:40:46 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>> "...and feel the effects of caffeine..."
>> That's a bad thing? 
>>
>> I did get my best Strava time up the local mini-climb after eating 4 
>> chocolate covered espresso beans. New tires and being 10 lbs lighter may 
>> have had some bearing on that, too, but I'm going with the caffeine. 
>>
>> Philip
>> www.biketinker.com
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:02:30 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> I ate 3 decaf (Swiss Water Method) beans and feel the effects of 
>>> caffeine (decaf not being 100% caffeine free, of course). The non-cook 
>>> method may not be viable. Hmm.
>>>
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Deacon Patrick]

Aye. It's a bad thing with my brain injury.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:40:46 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> "...and feel the effects of caffeine..."
> That's a bad thing? 
>
> I did get my best Strava time up the local mini-climb after eating 4 
> chocolate covered espresso beans. New tires and being 10 lbs lighter may 
> have had some bearing on that, too, but I'm going with the caffeine. 
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
>
> On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:02:30 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> I ate 3 decaf (Swiss Water Method) beans and feel the effects of caffeine 
>> (decaf not being 100% caffeine free, of course). The non-cook method may 
>> not be viable. Hmm.
>>
>>
>> With abandon,
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Philip Williamson]

"...and feel the effects of caffeine..."
That's a bad thing? 

I did get my best Strava time up the local mini-climb after eating 4 
chocolate covered espresso beans. New tires and being 10 lbs lighter may 
have had some bearing on that, too, but I'm going with the caffeine. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:02:30 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I ate 3 decaf (Swiss Water Method) beans and feel the effects of caffeine 
> (decaf not being 100% caffeine free, of course). The non-cook method may 
> not be viable. Hmm.
>
>
> With abandon,
>
> Patrick
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Deacon Patrick]

I ate 3 decaf (Swiss Water Method) beans and feel the effects of caffeine 
(decaf not being 100% caffeine free, of course). The non-cook method may 
not be viable. Hmm.


With abandon,

Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Deacon Patrick]

This will seem anathema to some coffee zealots out there, but I just 
thought of a way to get the same benefits (and more actually) with far less 
weight and bother while bikepacking. For that to make sense you need to 
know my default mode is to not take a stove, taking instead pemmican and/or 
food that can be cooked over a fire/mini-grill). So brewing coffee means 
taking a stove and pots and mug in addition to grinder and brewer that I 
would not be taking.

I've discovered that adding coco powder and cinnamon and vanilla to my 
coffee is fantastic and generates positive synergistic brain effects vs. 
each thing alone. So, make unsweetened dark chocolate squares with coco 
powder, butter, vanilla, cinnamon, and unground coffee beans. No need to 
cook or prepare anything, dried and light weight, and all the benefits. 
H. That is sounding very good.

Ok. I'm ready to duck now. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Kellie Stapleton]

I use a lot of my backpacking stuff on my bike. Check this one out:
 
http://preparedness.com/adcogrbygsio.html?utm_source=googlepepla&utm_medium=adwords&id=18283950120&utm_content=pla

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:54:25 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:
>
> — Home
> — Bikepacking
> (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: 
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846)
>
> It’s interesting. I’m discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well 
> brewed (which I learned how to do through this group — thank you!) helps my 
> brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to 
> get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I’m planning on 
> making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh 
> found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing 
> it well. And I don’t even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[tdusky]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-PeDe-Dienes-coffee-grinder-/111294812296?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e9b01088


On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:54:25 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:
>
> — Home
> — Bikepacking
> (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: 
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846)
>
> It’s interesting. I’m discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well 
> brewed (which I learned how to do through this group — thank you!) helps my 
> brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to 
> get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I’m planning on 
> making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh 
> found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing 
> it well. And I don’t even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Ron Mc]

I have a Cuisinart burr grinder and like it well enough.  For camping, I 
coarse grind French Roast at home and make press coffee at campsite.  You 
definitely want a good burr grinder for home.  I gave my best a friend a 
Salton burr grinder for his first marriage in 1983 and it finally died 
before his 3rd marriage last year.  A good burr grinder is an investment. 
 A cheap burr grinder is a mess.  
and if you really want to grind coffee in camp, here you go: 
 http://www.amazon.com/Hario-Coffee-Mill-Slim-Grinder/dp/B001804CLY

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:
>
> — Home
> — Bikepacking
> (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: 
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846)
>
> It’s interesting. I’m discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well 
> brewed (which I learned how to do through this group — thank you!) helps my 
> brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to 
> get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I’m planning on 
> making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh 
> found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing 
> it well. And I don’t even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Garth]

For travel, maybe not . . . but for sheer awesomeness in looks, function 
and longevity with all replaceable parts, I'll take one :)   

http://www.oehandgrinders.com/OE-LIDO-2-Manual-Coffee-Grinder--PRE-ORDER_p_14.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[David Banzer]

The Hario is a good budget burr grinder for someone starting out. It doesn't do 
a very good job for a coarse French press grind. I'm beginning to outgrow mine, 
and would very much like Matthew's feedback if an OE one is obtainable. 
David

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Matthew J]

It does adjust, but not to the fine degree of the electrics and presumably 
the Lido.  Also, no gauge.  I like gauges.

On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:40:11 AM UTC-6, Daniel M wrote:
>
> The Hario I mentioned earlier costs $25 on Amazon at the moment. Ceramic 
> burr grinder, easily and quickly adjustible. No need to go boutique-y 
> unless you want to.
>
> Daniel
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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Daniel M]

The Hario I mentioned earlier costs $25 on Amazon at the moment. Ceramic 
burr grinder, easily and quickly adjustible. No need to go boutique-y 
unless you want to.

Daniel

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Matthew J]

A good electric grinder will easily cost several hundred dollars. 
 Commercial grinders go neat $1k if not over.

I much prefer a manual as personally I would rather not use electricity if 
there is a feasible alternative.  The problem with many of the less 
expensive manual grinders is they either cannot adjust or if they do it is 
more rube goldberg than what you get with a good electric.  Adjusting the 
level of grind is important if you brew coffee in different ways as well as 
experiment with the type of beans and roast.

The Lido in concept will have the same precise grind control one gets from 
the high end grinders without using electricity.  I just wish the darn 
things would come in stock so I can try one out.

On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:42:48 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:
>
> For folks that like lighter roast coffees, a blade grinder just simply 
> doesn't provide anywhere near a consistent grind. Will a blade grinder work 
> to make a cup of coffee? Absolutely. Some folks, myself included, will tell 
> you that's better cup of coffee can be made with a consistent grind that a 
> burr grinder provides. 
> Manual, hand-powered grinders also mean you can grind beans anywhere you'd 
> like, which is wonderful for making coffee outside, which a lot of folks 
> seem to be interested in these days when combined with bicycle journeys of 
> any length. 
> David

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[justinaugust]

It comes back to the same thing as bikes.
You can get around on a BSO from Wal-Mart. 
You can get around on a low-end aluminum big-bike maker hybrid. 
You can ride what "the pros" ride. 
You can go Surly/All-City/Salsa. 
You can go econoclastic Rivendell. 
You can go custom. 
And much much more. 

It's all about your priorities and what you enjoy. 

-Justin, with more coffee brewing equipment than Bikes

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[David Banzer]

For folks that like lighter roast coffees, a blade grinder just simply doesn't 
provide anywhere near a consistent grind. Will a blade grinder work to make a 
cup of coffee? Absolutely. Some folks, myself included, will tell you that's 
better cup of coffee can be made with a consistent grind that a burr grinder 
provides. 
Manual, hand-powered grinders also mean you can grind beans anywhere you'd 
like, which is wonderful for making coffee outside, which a lot of folks seem 
to be interested in these days when combined with bicycle journeys of any 
length. 
David

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Matthew J]

You asked for advice, I offered it. FYI the Lido is on back order.

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[David Banzer]

The Hario v60 filter is the same shape as Chemex. Still would consider both 
pourovers. 
David

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Jim Bronson]

$175 for a coffee grinder?  For that kind of money my coworkers can suffer
a little noise.  I understand sometimes it's worth it to pay more for
quality products (like Rivendell...) but when I can get an electric coffee
grinder that works fine for less than $10, that amount of money seems a
waste.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Matthew J  wrote:

> Jim - Seriously recommend you check out the Orphan Espresso video I linked
> above.  The OE dude does not look all that muscular.  He grinds out a fair
> amount of beans pretty quick.
>
> Some good coffee coming out of Mexico lately.  Their season is too short!
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 2:27:20 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
>> The person in the cube next to my desk and myself share a coffee pot and
>> bean purchasing.  We have an electric grinder that puts out quite a bit of
>> noise pollution for 5 other people in the general vicinity.  (we are all IT
>> support people in a 20x30ish room).
>>
>> How much effort is required for this burr grinder, assuming hand cranked?
>>  Is it a realistic option for replacing the electric grinder?  Or is there
>> a better option out there for low-noise coffee bean grinding?
>>
>> FWIW, we use Ruta Maya Dark Roast coffee that I get at Costco.  It is
>> roasted here in Austin, Texas from coffee beans grown in the Chiapas region
>> of southern Mexico by a farmers' cooperative.  www.rutamaya.net.
>>
>> -Jim
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Chris Chen  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, if you look at a blade grinder it just whacks the s*** out of the
>>> beans until you stop, so you have a random chance of hitting a large bean
>>> or a small shard; this of course means that when you stop, the vast
>>> majority of the particles are in the middle (think standard distribution).
>>>
>>> With a burr grinder, it's more like a go-no go gauge (or high pass/low
>>> pass filter, whatever floats your boat): you set the slop between the top
>>> and bottom parts and only particles small enough pass through. You'll see a
>>> more consistent grind.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, George. As I understand it, the inconsistency of grind you
 describe is exactly why people recommend going with a burr grinder over a
 blade grinder. Can anyone confirm?

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:01:13 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:
>
> I've used the Krups fast-touch for years with good success.  It can be
> purchased most places for around $20.  And, as their web site says, it
> doubles nicely as a spice grinder, too.  One irritating quality about it,
> though, is it seems that some of the coffee will always settle to the
> bottom of the grinding chamber and wind up becoming very fine whereas the
> rest of it remains near the top and is more coarse.  I have to hold the 
> lid
> on tightly, turn it upside down and shake it a few times during the grind
> in order to more evenly distribute the coffee.
>
> http://www.krupsusa.com/All+Products/Coffee+Grinders/Product
> s/F203/F203.htm
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:
>>
>> -- Home
>> -- Bikepacking
>> (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress:
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=s
>> 9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=
>> 12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846 )
>>
>> It's interesting. I'm discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well
>> brewed (which I learned how to do through this group -- thank you!) 
>> helps my
>> brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to
>> get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I'm planning on
>> making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh
>> found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing
>> it well. And I don't even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
>> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>>
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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[justinaugust]

That's Chemex, not pourover. Similar but different due to the shape of the 
filter at the bottom. 

-J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Chris Chen]

I vary the size of grind on my porlex between rediculous turkish fine to
coarse french press, and it seems to work fine. I've been using it pretty
regularly and I think it's plenty tough in the handle. If I recall
correctly it's the hario that seems to break after a time.

cc


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:

> Hario grinder and I also bought a used Zassenhaus. I love my French press.
>
> Toshi
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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Hario grinder and I also bought a used Zassenhaus. I love my French press.

Toshi

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Matthew J]

Pretty well accepted that ceramic or steel burr grinder is the best for 
quality coffee grind.

On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 11:07:46 AM UTC-6, velomann wrote:
>
> I can't be the only one laughing over the irony of all these unracers 
> debating the speed and weight of coffee grinders. Surely someone makes a 
> carbon fiber grinder with oversize press-in ceramic bearings, guaranteed to 
> grind faster?
>
> Mike 
>
> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:54:25 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:
>>
>> — Home
>> — Bikepacking
>> (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: 
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846)
>>
>> It’s interesting. I’m discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well 
>> brewed (which I learned how to do through this group — thank you!) helps my 
>> brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to 
>> get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I’m planning on 
>> making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh 
>> found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing 
>> it well. And I don’t even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
>> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>>  
>>

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[velomann]

I can't be the only one laughing over the irony of all these unracers 
debating the speed and weight of coffee grinders. Surely someone makes a 
carbon fiber grinder with oversize press-in ceramic bearings, guaranteed to 
grind faster?

Mike 

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:54:25 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:
>
> — Home
> — Bikepacking
> (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: 
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846)
>
> It’s interesting. I’m discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well 
> brewed (which I learned how to do through this group — thank you!) helps my 
> brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to 
> get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I’m planning on 
> making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh 
> found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing 
> it well. And I don’t even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Deacon Patrick]

Perhaps it's a new feature, but the Porlex's on Amazon have adjustable 
grind via the nut on the bottom.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 8:51:46 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
>
> I've had the Porlex JP-30 for several years now, no problem.  Not sure how 
> much difference there is from the mini.
>
> Only issue I have with the Porlex is you cannot vary the grind.  As long 
> as fine espresso grind works you are in luck.  Depending on the beans the 
> fiine grind can make using the Aeropress quite the chore.  
>
> The Lido should remedy that.  Per Liesl's request above, I will post a 
> review after taking delivery of mine.
>
> On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 8:58:39 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Looking through Amazon's reviews for the Porlex mini, multiple people 
>> state that the handle to grinder connection is weak metal and after six 
>> months the handle comes off. Has anyone owned one longer than 6 months with 
>> regular use and can speak to this?
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[EGNolan]

>
> I've got a Hario like Tony's and a Hario slim for bike camping, camping, 
>> coffee mornings & to take to work. The nice part about having 2 is that 
>> I've enlisted the help of my 5 year old. I take the large grinder and he 
>> takes the small. We make a bit of a race out of it & that 1 minute of grind 
>> time turns to 30 seconds. If I were to have 1, I'd go with the slim model 
>> since the plastic is better for travel, but buying both is still much 
>> cheaper than a good electric burr grinder. 
>>
>  
I also roast my own beans, a $5 popper at a yard sale ($30 on ebay) and 
about $6/lb of beans makes better beans (beans roasted in the last 24 hr-72 
hrs taste amazing even when not quite perfectly roasted)  than you've 
probably had. The ability to roast to your preference is nice as well.
 
Good luck,
Eric
 

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Matthew J]

I've had the Porlex JP-30 for several years now, no problem.  Not sure how 
much difference there is from the mini.

Only issue I have with the Porlex is you cannot vary the grind.  As long as 
fine espresso grind works you are in luck.  Depending on the beans the 
fiine grind can make using the Aeropress quite the chore.  

The Lido should remedy that.  Per Liesl's request above, I will post a 
review after taking delivery of mine.

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>
> Looking through Amazon's reviews for the Porlex mini, multiple people 
> state that the handle to grinder connection is weak metal and after six 
> months the handle comes off. Has anyone owned one longer than 6 months with 
> regular use and can speak to this?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Deacon Patrick]

Looking through Amazon's reviews for the Porlex mini, multiple people state 
that the handle to grinder connection is weak metal and after six months 
the handle comes off. Has anyone owned one longer than 6 months with 
regular use and can speak to this?

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Deacon Patrick]

If we do need a RivListCoffee subgroup then we need a RivListWool, 
RivlistVentile, Rivelist ... Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 8:45:28 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
>
> Late on the thread here, but +1 on the Porlex.
>
> Here in the Twin Cities, land of sub-zero Marches, it's hard to beat Peace 
> Coffee.  Our house fav is Blue Mountain, dark—smooth, low acid, yummy.
>
> And Matthew J, please post something about the OE lido once you get it and 
> give a test ride!
>
> Do y'all think there should be a RivList Coffee subgroup?
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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Tony DeFilippo]

I've been using a Hario Coffee 
Mill,
 
I wouldn't recommend it for on the go applications as it's just a bit large 
for that but it does easily fit enough grounds in one go to fill my 8 cup 
sized Chemex brewer which is very nice.  I've only been using since the 
fall and I can't compare it to other grinders.  I've noticed that the 
amount of time that passes between the roasting of the beans and the 
grinding makes a huge difference in the ease of grinding... anyone else 
noticed something similar?  Even from the same bag I get much easier grinds 
out of the first cup than the last.  Maybe its just me!

In the other thread I mentioned how I've gotten into pour over for my 
preferred brewing technique, here's an order of operations shot of all the 
'kit' involved.  If nothing else it is a good way to slow down your coffee 
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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Liesl]

Late on the thread here, but +1 on the Porlex.

Here in the Twin Cities, land of sub-zero Marches, it's hard to beat Peace 
Coffee.  Our house fav is Blue Mountain, dark—smooth, low acid, yummy.

And Matthew J, please post something about the OE lido once you get it and 
give a test ride!

Do y'all think there should be a RivList Coffee subgroup?

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Nils Eng]

Patrick,
I've been using 
this
 one 
daily (sometimes SEVERAL times a day :) since 2009.  It can grind 6 tbsp of 
beans for a French press in about 2 minutes, the same 6 tbsp for my Mokka 
pot in about 4 or 5 minutes, and 3 tbsp of a very powdery Turkish grind in 
about 10 minutes.  I've been really happy with this mill and like the 
company as well.

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:54:25 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:
>
> — Home
> — Bikepacking
> (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: 
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846)
>
> It’s interesting. I’m discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well 
> brewed (which I learned how to do through this group — thank you!) helps my 
> brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to 
> get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I’m planning on 
> making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh 
> found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing 
> it well. And I don’t even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[David Stein]

I have the Solis Maestro at home and have been  using it trouble free for 8 
years. Probably overkill since I just use it to grind for drip coffee now, 
but used to do french press and espress (which it was great for since you 
had a wide variety of grinds to choose from).

Just posted in the other coffee thread on coffee for camping, I prefer 
Starbucks Via instant coffee. Less gear to take with you and is 
surprisingly pretty good*.*

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:54:25 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:
>
> — Home
> — Bikepacking
> (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: 
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846)
>
> It’s interesting. I’m discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well 
> brewed (which I learned how to do through this group — thank you!) helps my 
> brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to 
> get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I’m planning on 
> making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh 
> found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing 
> it well. And I don’t even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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>  
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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[velomann]

If you're worried about time and/or your wimpy bike rider arm muscles, 
maybe you need one of 
these: 
http://www.bikerumor.com/2013/12/18/gear-grinder-how-to-make-the-most-hipster-coffee-on-the-planet/
Doesn't get any more hipster than that. I'm kinda surprised I haven't 
actually seen one of those here in PDX. 
On a serious note, I love my Porlex. Takes about a minute, but I'm buff and 
fast - with a grinder that is ;-)
And we're spoiled with coffee here in PDX, for sure. But to my mind the 
best of the best here is Water Avenue, Extracto, and Heart. There's also 
Charlie Wicker's Trailhead Coffee roasters. He buys from women-owned 
plantations that pay decent wages, does great roasting, and delivers by 
bike: http://www.trailheadcoffeeroasters.com/Home_Page.html
My current personal favorite coffee is Water Avenue Ethiopia Sidamo.
When any of you RBW folks visit Portland, PM me and I'll give you a coffee 
mini-tour.

Mike

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:54:25 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:
>
> — Home
> — Bikepacking
> (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: 
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846)
>
> It’s interesting. I’m discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well 
> brewed (which I learned how to do through this group — thank you!) helps my 
> brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to 
> get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I’m planning on 
> making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh 
> found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing 
> it well. And I don’t even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Matthew J]

Jim - Seriously recommend you check out the Orphan Espresso video I linked 
above.  The OE dude does not look all that muscular.  He grinds out a fair 
amount of beans pretty quick.

Some good coffee coming out of Mexico lately.  Their season is too short!

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 2:27:20 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> The person in the cube next to my desk and myself share a coffee pot and 
> bean purchasing.  We have an electric grinder that puts out quite a bit of 
> noise pollution for 5 other people in the general vicinity.  (we are all IT 
> support people in a 20x30ish room).
>
> How much effort is required for this burr grinder, assuming hand cranked? 
>  Is it a realistic option for replacing the electric grinder?  Or is there 
> a better option out there for low-noise coffee bean grinding?
>
> FWIW, we use Ruta Maya Dark Roast coffee that I get at Costco.  It is 
> roasted here in Austin, Texas from coffee beans grown in the Chiapas region 
> of southern Mexico by a farmers' cooperative.  www.rutamaya.net.
>
> -Jim
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Chris Chen 
> > wrote:
>
>> Yes, if you look at a blade grinder it just whacks the s*** out of the 
>> beans until you stop, so you have a random chance of hitting a large bean 
>> or a small shard; this of course means that when you stop, the vast 
>> majority of the particles are in the middle (think standard distribution).
>>
>> With a burr grinder, it's more like a go-no go gauge (or high pass/low 
>> pass filter, whatever floats your boat): you set the slop between the top 
>> and bottom parts and only particles small enough pass through. You'll see a 
>> more consistent grind.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Deacon Patrick 
>> 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, George. As I understand it, the inconsistency of grind you 
>>> describe is exactly why people recommend going with a burr grinder over a 
>>> blade grinder. Can anyone confirm?
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:01:13 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:

 I've used the Krups fast-touch for years with good success.  It can be 
 purchased most places for around $20.  And, as their web site says, it 
 doubles nicely as a spice grinder, too.  One irritating quality about it, 
 though, is it seems that some of the coffee will always settle to the 
 bottom of the grinding chamber and wind up becoming very fine whereas the 
 rest of it remains near the top and is more coarse.  I have to hold the 
 lid 
 on tightly, turn it upside down and shake it a few times during the grind 
 in order to more evenly distribute the coffee.

 http://www.krupsusa.com/All+Products/Coffee+Grinders/
 Products/F203/F203.htm



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>
> What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:
>
> — Home
> — Bikepacking
> (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: 
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=
> s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=
> 12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846 )
>
> It’s interesting. I’m discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well 
> brewed (which I learned how to do through this group — thank you!) helps 
> my 
> brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to 
> get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I’m planning on 
> making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh 
> found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing 
> it well. And I don’t even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.
>  
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>  
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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Garth]

I've used the Krups for decades , as well a burr grinder .   Makes no 
difference to me .  With the Krups I do lightly tap in a few times on the 
counter while using, I don't really think that is a negative at all.  

Aeropress ? I can't see making coffee with very hot water in plastic , 
lol.I love the Bialetti Aluminum Moka Express Pots . I don't wash to 
the top portion, just a rinse and wipe it out every couple of weeks. 

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Kevin Mulcahy]

+1 for Starbucks via while camping, even the knock off Via imitators are 
decent. 

IMO great coffee is a hard thing to reproduce while camping. At home I use 
a burr grinder, digital gram scale, timer, fancy kettle, and a fancy coffee 
making apparatus. I need all these tools in order to make a GREAT cup of 
coffee. And, it takes practice and a consistent bean.  If i don't want 
great coffee, and just want good coffee - Via it is. Hands down. 

Kevin 
In Chicago

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Deacon Patrick]

Thanks, Daniel. Great mention on the water temp. Water boils at 196˚F at 
8,000 feet, so we just pour straight from the boil. That static thing would 
drive me nuts and give my wife a lot to clean. I'll do well to avoid that! 
Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 1:35:48 PM UTC-7, Daniel M wrote:
>
> Wow - I can't believe I'm compelled to chime in here, but I switched to a 
> hand-grinder a few years ago when my electric burr grinder gave up the 
> ghost. I disliked how loud the electric grinder was and REALLY disliked how 
> much static electricity it imparted into the grinds - a small portion of 
> the grounds always sprung into the air and landed on the walls, counter, 
> stove, etc.
>
> I've been using the Hario mini-mill: 
> http://www.amazon.com/Hario-Coffee-Mill-Slim-Grinder/dp/B001804CLY
>
> It's the only hand-grinder I've owned, so I can't provide a direct 
> comparison, but it does take longer than an electric grinder. 
> Interestingly, it takes almost exactly the same amount of time for me to 
> grind my portion of beans that it takes for the water to boil. I LOVE the 
> fact that the grounds don't become electrostatically charged so I can 
> simply pour them into my cone filter - no brush required, no more wayward 
> grounds. First world problem solved, captain.
>
> I put an elastic hair band around the middle portion so I can keep the 
> crank handle snug against the body of the grinder between uses and when I 
> pack it for car camping. Full disclosure: for backpacking (or bikepacking, 
> I suppose), I have switched to St-rb-cks Via. It is so much better than 
> standard instant coffee, and fits the austere nature of backpacking for me 
> a bit better than taking my collapseable filter cone along with me. In the 
> past I would pre-grind (the horror!) for backpacking trips so I didn't have 
> to add the grinder to the load.
>
> Oh, and: I received an electric goose-neck slow-pour kettle as a wedding 
> gift this summer. For those who haven't switched to the Aeropress, it is a 
> miracle. You can set the final temperature (ideally a bit below boiling 
> temperature), and have it hold at that temperature until you are ready. I 
> fill my mug with cold water, pour it into the kettle, set it for 205 
> degrees Fahrenheit, and when I'm done grinding the water is ready and I 
> simply pour out the entire contents without having to measure. It works 
> perfectly. I know that we coffee connoisseurs are supposed to pre-rinse our 
> filters, but I just can't be bothered.
>
> I also LOVE the original, full-sized Aerobee flying ring! Oh, and bicycles 
> too! 
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Daniel M]

Wow - I can't believe I'm compelled to chime in here, but I switched to a 
hand-grinder a few years ago when my electric burr grinder gave up the 
ghost. I disliked how loud the electric grinder was and REALLY disliked how 
much static electricity it imparted into the grinds - a small portion of 
the grounds always sprung into the air and landed on the walls, counter, 
stove, etc.

I've been using the Hario mini-mill: 
http://www.amazon.com/Hario-Coffee-Mill-Slim-Grinder/dp/B001804CLY

It's the only hand-grinder I've owned, so I can't provide a direct 
comparison, but it does take longer than an electric grinder. 
Interestingly, it takes almost exactly the same amount of time for me to 
grind my portion of beans that it takes for the water to boil. I LOVE the 
fact that the grounds don't become electrostatically charged so I can 
simply pour them into my cone filter - no brush required, no more wayward 
grounds. First world problem solved, captain.

I put an elastic hair band around the middle portion so I can keep the 
crank handle snug against the body of the grinder between uses and when I 
pack it for car camping. Full disclosure: for backpacking (or bikepacking, 
I suppose), I have switched to St-rb-cks Via. It is so much better than 
standard instant coffee, and fits the austere nature of backpacking for me 
a bit better than taking my collapseable filter cone along with me. In the 
past I would pre-grind (the horror!) for backpacking trips so I didn't have 
to add the grinder to the load.

Oh, and: I received an electric goose-neck slow-pour kettle as a wedding 
gift this summer. For those who haven't switched to the Aeropress, it is a 
miracle. You can set the final temperature (ideally a bit below boiling 
temperature), and have it hold at that temperature until you are ready. I 
fill my mug with cold water, pour it into the kettle, set it for 205 
degrees Fahrenheit, and when I'm done grinding the water is ready and I 
simply pour out the entire contents without having to measure. It works 
perfectly. I know that we coffee connoisseurs are supposed to pre-rinse our 
filters, but I just can't be bothered.

I also LOVE the original, full-sized Aerobee flying ring! Oh, and bicycles 
too! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Jim Bronson]

The person in the cube next to my desk and myself share a coffee pot and
bean purchasing.  We have an electric grinder that puts out quite a bit of
noise pollution for 5 other people in the general vicinity.  (we are all IT
support people in a 20x30ish room).

How much effort is required for this burr grinder, assuming hand cranked?
 Is it a realistic option for replacing the electric grinder?  Or is there
a better option out there for low-noise coffee bean grinding?

FWIW, we use Ruta Maya Dark Roast coffee that I get at Costco.  It is
roasted here in Austin, Texas from coffee beans grown in the Chiapas region
of southern Mexico by a farmers' cooperative.  www.rutamaya.net.

-Jim


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Chris Chen  wrote:

> Yes, if you look at a blade grinder it just whacks the s*** out of the
> beans until you stop, so you have a random chance of hitting a large bean
> or a small shard; this of course means that when you stop, the vast
> majority of the particles are in the middle (think standard distribution).
>
> With a burr grinder, it's more like a go-no go gauge (or high pass/low
> pass filter, whatever floats your boat): you set the slop between the top
> and bottom parts and only particles small enough pass through. You'll see a
> more consistent grind.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
>> Thanks, George. As I understand it, the inconsistency of grind you
>> describe is exactly why people recommend going with a burr grinder over a
>> blade grinder. Can anyone confirm?
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:01:13 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:
>>>
>>> I've used the Krups fast-touch for years with good success.  It can be
>>> purchased most places for around $20.  And, as their web site says, it
>>> doubles nicely as a spice grinder, too.  One irritating quality about it,
>>> though, is it seems that some of the coffee will always settle to the
>>> bottom of the grinding chamber and wind up becoming very fine whereas the
>>> rest of it remains near the top and is more coarse.  I have to hold the lid
>>> on tightly, turn it upside down and shake it a few times during the grind
>>> in order to more evenly distribute the coffee.
>>>
>>> http://www.krupsusa.com/All+Products/Coffee+Grinders/
>>> Products/F203/F203.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:

 -- Home
 -- Bikepacking
 (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress:
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=
 s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=
 12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846 )

 It's interesting. I'm discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well
 brewed (which I learned how to do through this group -- thank you!) helps 
 my
 brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to
 get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I'm planning on
 making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh
 found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing
 it well. And I don't even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Zack]

I mean, look at those smiles.  Porlex hand grinders: makin people happy.  

http://www.flickr.com/photos/99743766@N00/11097381065/

As far as "which coffee do you like best," Deacon, it's a pretty tough 
question to answer.  Living in Portland, we have a bit of an embarrassment 
of riches when it comes to great coffee.  Heart, Rose Line, Stumptown, 
Water Avenue and Coava are all excellent.

One thing I came across that I thought was cool is www.mistobox.com - they 
send you a little sampler every month of four different coffees, and then 
you can also order more coffee through them and not pay shipping 1X a 
month.  The coffees look legit too, like I would want to try them.  I would 
have definitely done this while I lived in Vermont, but, now that I live in 
PDX, I can basically do a Mistobox of my own every month for less money.  

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Matthew J]

I have my pre-order on the Orphan Espresso Lido.  Check out the video.  If 
execution is there (and OE is an excellent, Riv like company) this will be 
as good a manual grinder as you can hope to have:

http://www.oehandgrinders.com/ 

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:
>
> — Home
> — Bikepacking
> (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: 
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846)
>
> It’s interesting. I’m discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well 
> brewed (which I learned how to do through this group — thank you!) helps my 
> brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to 
> get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I’m planning on 
> making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh 
> found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing 
> it well. And I don’t even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Coconutbill]

>
>  Is it true that blade grinders can burn the beans sort of like a saw 
> cutting wood?
>
For a long while I've been burr grinding because the grind is so consistant 
and controllable. 
the low pass/ high pass filter comparison floats my boat, mr. Chen.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Chris Chen]

By the way, it's true the porlex isn't the fastest grinder, but even when
I'm making coffee for 4, I don't think to myself (man this is really
slowing me down)...

Also apparently it's social to do so:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/99743766@N00/11097381065/


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> I just read up on it again. I definitely want a burr grinder, likely hand
> cranked at home and definitely hand cranked for bikepacking. Issues of
> grind consistency and temperature eliminate the blade grinders for me.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:07:30 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, George. As I understand it, the inconsistency of grind you
>> describe is exactly why people recommend going with a burr grinder over a
>> blade grinder. Can anyone confirm?
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:01:13 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:
>>>
>>> I've used the Krups fast-touch for years with good success.  It can be
>>> purchased most places for around $20.  And, as their web site says, it
>>> doubles nicely as a spice grinder, too.  One irritating quality about it,
>>> though, is it seems that some of the coffee will always settle to the
>>> bottom of the grinding chamber and wind up becoming very fine whereas the
>>> rest of it remains near the top and is more coarse.  I have to hold the lid
>>> on tightly, turn it upside down and shake it a few times during the grind
>>> in order to more evenly distribute the coffee.
>>>
>>> http://www.krupsusa.com/All+Products/Coffee+Grinders/
>>> Products/F203/F203.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:

 -- Home
 -- Bikepacking
 (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress:
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=
 s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=
 12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846 )

 It's interesting. I'm discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well
 brewed (which I learned how to do through this group -- thank you!) helps 
 my
 brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to
 get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I'm planning on
 making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh
 found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing
 it well. And I don't even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Deacon Patrick]

I just read up on it again. I definitely want a burr grinder, likely hand 
cranked at home and definitely hand cranked for bikepacking. Issues of 
grind consistency and temperature eliminate the blade grinders for me.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:07:30 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Thanks, George. As I understand it, the inconsistency of grind you 
> describe is exactly why people recommend going with a burr grinder over a 
> blade grinder. Can anyone confirm?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:01:13 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:
>>
>> I've used the Krups fast-touch for years with good success.  It can be 
>> purchased most places for around $20.  And, as their web site says, it 
>> doubles nicely as a spice grinder, too.  One irritating quality about it, 
>> though, is it seems that some of the coffee will always settle to the 
>> bottom of the grinding chamber and wind up becoming very fine whereas the 
>> rest of it remains near the top and is more coarse.  I have to hold the lid 
>> on tightly, turn it upside down and shake it a few times during the grind 
>> in order to more evenly distribute the coffee.
>>
>>
>> http://www.krupsusa.com/All+Products/Coffee+Grinders/Products/F203/F203.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:
>>>
>>> — Home
>>> — Bikepacking
>>> (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: 
>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846)
>>>
>>> It’s interesting. I’m discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well 
>>> brewed (which I learned how to do through this group — thank you!) helps my 
>>> brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to 
>>> get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I’m planning on 
>>> making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh 
>>> found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing 
>>> it well. And I don’t even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
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>>> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>>>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Chris Chen]

Yes, if you look at a blade grinder it just whacks the s*** out of the
beans until you stop, so you have a random chance of hitting a large bean
or a small shard; this of course means that when you stop, the vast
majority of the particles are in the middle (think standard distribution).

With a burr grinder, it's more like a go-no go gauge (or high pass/low pass
filter, whatever floats your boat): you set the slop between the top and
bottom parts and only particles small enough pass through. You'll see a
more consistent grind.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Thanks, George. As I understand it, the inconsistency of grind you
> describe is exactly why people recommend going with a burr grinder over a
> blade grinder. Can anyone confirm?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:01:13 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:
>>
>> I've used the Krups fast-touch for years with good success.  It can be
>> purchased most places for around $20.  And, as their web site says, it
>> doubles nicely as a spice grinder, too.  One irritating quality about it,
>> though, is it seems that some of the coffee will always settle to the
>> bottom of the grinding chamber and wind up becoming very fine whereas the
>> rest of it remains near the top and is more coarse.  I have to hold the lid
>> on tightly, turn it upside down and shake it a few times during the grind
>> in order to more evenly distribute the coffee.
>>
>> http://www.krupsusa.com/All+Products/Coffee+Grinders/
>> Products/F203/F203.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:
>>>
>>> -- Home
>>> -- Bikepacking
>>> (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress:
>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=
>>> s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=
>>> 12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846 )
>>>
>>> It's interesting. I'm discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well
>>> brewed (which I learned how to do through this group -- thank you!) helps my
>>> brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to
>>> get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I'm planning on
>>> making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh
>>> found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing
>>> it well. And I don't even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
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>>> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Deacon Patrick]

Thanks, George. As I understand it, the inconsistency of grind you describe 
is exactly why people recommend going with a burr grinder over a blade 
grinder. Can anyone confirm?

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:01:13 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:
>
> I've used the Krups fast-touch for years with good success.  It can be 
> purchased most places for around $20.  And, as their web site says, it 
> doubles nicely as a spice grinder, too.  One irritating quality about it, 
> though, is it seems that some of the coffee will always settle to the 
> bottom of the grinding chamber and wind up becoming very fine whereas the 
> rest of it remains near the top and is more coarse.  I have to hold the lid 
> on tightly, turn it upside down and shake it a few times during the grind 
> in order to more evenly distribute the coffee.
>
> http://www.krupsusa.com/All+Products/Coffee+Grinders/Products/F203/F203.htm
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:
>>
>> — Home
>> — Bikepacking
>> (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: 
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846)
>>
>> It’s interesting. I’m discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well 
>> brewed (which I learned how to do through this group — thank you!) helps my 
>> brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to 
>> get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I’m planning on 
>> making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh 
>> found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing 
>> it well. And I don’t even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
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>> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>>  
>>

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Lynne Fitz]

buy a separate grinder for a spice grinder.

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[George Schick]

I've used the Krups fast-touch for years with good success.  It can be 
purchased most places for around $20.  And, as their web site says, it 
doubles nicely as a spice grinder, too.  One irritating quality about it, 
though, is it seems that some of the coffee will always settle to the 
bottom of the grinding chamber and wind up becoming very fine whereas the 
rest of it remains near the top and is more coarse.  I have to hold the lid 
on tightly, turn it upside down and shake it a few times during the grind 
in order to more evenly distribute the coffee.

http://www.krupsusa.com/All+Products/Coffee+Grinders/Products/F203/F203.htm



On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> What coffee grinder do you recommend? Two uses:
>
> — Home
> — Bikepacking
> (This one was mentioned by someone as fitting inside the Aeropress: 
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044ZA066/ref=s9_simh_gw_p79_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=12CYT1TWETYTZZ7PMY48&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846)
>
> It’s interesting. I’m discovering fresh swiss water decaf coffee well 
> brewed (which I learned how to do through this group — thank you!) helps my 
> brain in a way similar to the way dark chocolate does (we make our own to 
> get it dark enough without stuff that messes me up). So I’m planning on 
> making coffee on trips now, and there is a vast difference between fresh 
> found and even day old ground, which I can now taste because I am brewing 
> it well. And I don’t even have the Aeropress yet. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>  
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks Kevin and Chis. I am staring to imagine how you could use your
bicycle to turn this thing.

A minute isn't too much -- will proceed.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Kevin Mulcahy  wrote:

> Most of the manual burr grinders can be operated with a cordless drill if
> you're in a hurry :)
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rWCT9OZioCY
>
> Course grinding doesn't take too long, but an espresso grind can take a
> couple minutes of grinding for 20 grams of beans.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Chris Chen]

About a minute?


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I see that the Porlex accepts up to 1/4 cup of beans. OK, how long to
> grind 1/4 cup coarsely for a press?
>
> Patrick "rushed in the morning -- at least, rushed for my coffee" Moore
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I've toyed with the idea of getting a bur grinder to prepare coffee for a
>> press (usually use a Melita drip cone for which a blade grinder is fine).
>>
>> How long does it take to grind say 1/3 cup of beans in the Porlex
>> grinder? I have nothing against electric burr grinders but don't want to
>> spend the money for one. $40 I can afford.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Zack  wrote:
>>
>>> Deacon -
>>>
>>> I have that grinder, and think it's fantastic.  Nice even grind, every
>>> time.  It does indeed sort of fit inside the aeropress cylinder as well.  I
>>> usually don't end up doing that, but it works.
>>>
>>> Also there is definitely a huge difference between grinding right before
>>> you brew and waiting days or weeks.  Coffee, after you grind it, goes stale
>>> in a matter of minutes.  There are worse things in the world than "stale"
>>> coffee, but if you want to do it right, grinding right before you brew
>>> makes a huge difference.
>>>
>>> happy brewing!
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Kevin Mulcahy]

Most of the manual burr grinders can be operated with a cordless drill if 
you're in a hurry :)  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rWCT9OZioCY

Course grinding doesn't take too long, but an espresso grind can take a 
couple minutes of grinding for 20 grams of beans. 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Patrick Moore]

I see that the Porlex accepts up to 1/4 cup of beans. OK, how long to grind
1/4 cup coarsely for a press?

Patrick "rushed in the morning -- at least, rushed for my coffee" Moore


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I've toyed with the idea of getting a bur grinder to prepare coffee for a
> press (usually use a Melita drip cone for which a blade grinder is fine).
>
> How long does it take to grind say 1/3 cup of beans in the Porlex grinder?
> I have nothing against electric burr grinders but don't want to spend the
> money for one. $40 I can afford.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Zack  wrote:
>
>> Deacon -
>>
>> I have that grinder, and think it's fantastic.  Nice even grind, every
>> time.  It does indeed sort of fit inside the aeropress cylinder as well.  I
>> usually don't end up doing that, but it works.
>>
>> Also there is definitely a huge difference between grinding right before
>> you brew and waiting days or weeks.  Coffee, after you grind it, goes stale
>> in a matter of minutes.  There are worse things in the world than "stale"
>> coffee, but if you want to do it right, grinding right before you brew
>> makes a huge difference.
>>
>> happy brewing!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Patrick Moore]

I've toyed with the idea of getting a bur grinder to prepare coffee for a
press (usually use a Melita drip cone for which a blade grinder is fine).

How long does it take to grind say 1/3 cup of beans in the Porlex grinder?
I have nothing against electric burr grinders but don't want to spend the
money for one. $40 I can afford.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Zack  wrote:

> Deacon -
>
> I have that grinder, and think it's fantastic.  Nice even grind, every
> time.  It does indeed sort of fit inside the aeropress cylinder as well.  I
> usually don't end up doing that, but it works.
>
> Also there is definitely a huge difference between grinding right before
> you brew and waiting days or weeks.  Coffee, after you grind it, goes stale
> in a matter of minutes.  There are worse things in the world than "stale"
> coffee, but if you want to do it right, grinding right before you brew
> makes a huge difference.
>
> happy brewing!
>
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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Deacon Patrick]

Yea, well, you lot are turning me into a coffee snob. Grin.

Which raises the question of what coffees do you all find best? The only 
one we've found that matches the depth of flavor we want is 
Dazbog. http://www.dazbog.com Everything else seems like Miller Light vs. 
Ardbeg whiskey.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:57:15 AM UTC-7, Zack wrote:
>
> Deacon -
>
> I have that grinder, and think it's fantastic.  Nice even grind, every 
> time.  It does indeed sort of fit inside the aeropress cylinder as well.  I 
> usually don't end up doing that, but it works.
>
> Also there is definitely a huge difference between grinding right before 
> you brew and waiting days or weeks.  Coffee, after you grind it, goes stale 
> in a matter of minutes.  There are worse things in the world than "stale" 
> coffee, but if you want to do it right, grinding right before you brew 
> makes a huge difference.
>
> happy brewing!
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommended Coffee Grinder

[Zack]

Deacon -

I have that grinder, and think it's fantastic.  Nice even grind, every 
time.  It does indeed sort of fit inside the aeropress cylinder as well.  I 
usually don't end up doing that, but it works.

Also there is definitely a huge difference between grinding right before 
you brew and waiting days or weeks.  Coffee, after you grind it, goes stale 
in a matter of minutes.  There are worse things in the world than "stale" 
coffee, but if you want to do it right, grinding right before you brew 
makes a huge difference.

happy brewing!

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