[RBW] Re: SKS Fenders have their place in my world
On Jun 6, 8:15 am, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > Am I alone in having the experience that metal fenders were *easier* > to install than the SKS fenders? Not way more easy, but definitely > easier. If for no other reason than having fewer things connecting the > dropout to the fender. And I certainly do like the extra length. > Admittedly, the real reason I actually tried them at all... the ones I > got are a better fit than any of the SKS fenders I've used and were > about 2/3 the price of SKS fenders at the time. > I think installing metal fenders used to be a lot more involved a few years back as they didn't come pre-drilled for the stays. I've installed Berthouds and SKS fenders multiple times and have no problems with either. If I'm riding off road I actually prefer the SKS because they are shorter. I live in Portland, commute by bike literally everyday and have no problems or complaints about the SKS fenders on my commuter. All that said... the metal fenders do look nicer. My rando bike has VO aluminum fenders and they look nice, provide great coverage and seem to be made well enough. The person that built the frame actually installed the fenders for me and made some changes to them (using two eyebolts on the rear fender as opposed to one) and added a custom front leather flap that is installed in a trick way I don't know how to describe. I actually have a pair of SKS/Berthoud fenders laying around that I purchased from Peter White. I guess they don't make them anymore. I'll probably install them on one of my bikes this fall. I'm kind of surprised this model wasn't more widely available. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SKS Fenders have their place in my world
I absolutely prefer Honjos. Hands down. But I like how SKS' travel! On Jun 7, 12:21 am, Minh wrote: > I found the metal fenders (VO ones) were in fact harder to install > then the SKS ones but i'm not that patient, i think the metal ones > require a lot more test fitting. In the overall scheme it's not a big > difference in time. > > I think the SKS ones have their place though, i think the metal ones > are a bit over-kill for a fast-ish road bike like a roadeo or > ramboulliet. > > On Jun 6, 5:05 pm, Justin August wrote: > > > > > I've never had much trouble installing metal fenders. I must be doing > > it wrong. > > > -Justin > > > On Jun 6, 11:15 am, Thomas Lynn Skean > > wrote: > > > > Am I alone in having the experience that metal fenders were *easier* > > > to install than the SKS fenders? Not way more easy, but definitely > > > easier. If for no other reason than having fewer things connecting the > > > dropout to the fender. And I certainly do like the extra length. > > > Admittedly, the real reason I actually tried them at all... the ones I > > > got are a better fit than any of the SKS fenders I've used and were > > > about 2/3 the price of SKS fenders at the time. > > > > I had some concern about not having the quick-release mechanism. But > > > when I was using the SKS fenders, I only tripped that quick-release > > > once; I walked the bike off a curb carelessly. I recognize the > > > possibility of having the problem the quick-release solves. But > > > obviously it's not like people have been flung off their bikes on a > > > regular basis when using metal fenders. So... you pays your money, you > > > takes your pick. > > > > And the metal fenders shore are purty! > > > > Yours, > > > Thomas Lynn Skean > > > > On Jun 6, 9:29 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > > > Actually, metals are pretty darn durable, and strangely the better (= > > > > Honjo) aluminums seem more dent resistant than the Berthoud stainless > > > > type. I've used metals (B Stainless and H Alum) on commuters, > > > > including bus racks and back-of-vans and they hold up very well. > > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Ginz wrote: > > > > > Agreed, in my book, SKS are the standard. The metal fenders are > > > > > beautiful but I'm afraid I'll bend them to their ruin. Also, there's > > > > > the SKS quick release clip with is a feature I enjoy. > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > > > Patrick Moore > > > > Albuquerque, NM > > > > For professional resumes, contact > > > > Patrick Moore, ACRW > > > > [email protected] > > > > > A billion stars go spinning through the night > > > > Blazing high above your head; > > > > But in you is the Presence that will be > > > > When all the stars are dead. > > > > (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SKS Fenders have their place in my world
I found the metal fenders (VO ones) were in fact harder to install then the SKS ones but i'm not that patient, i think the metal ones require a lot more test fitting. In the overall scheme it's not a big difference in time. I think the SKS ones have their place though, i think the metal ones are a bit over-kill for a fast-ish road bike like a roadeo or ramboulliet. On Jun 6, 5:05 pm, Justin August wrote: > I've never had much trouble installing metal fenders. I must be doing > it wrong. > > -Justin > > On Jun 6, 11:15 am, Thomas Lynn Skean > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Am I alone in having the experience that metal fenders were *easier* > > to install than the SKS fenders? Not way more easy, but definitely > > easier. If for no other reason than having fewer things connecting the > > dropout to the fender. And I certainly do like the extra length. > > Admittedly, the real reason I actually tried them at all... the ones I > > got are a better fit than any of the SKS fenders I've used and were > > about 2/3 the price of SKS fenders at the time. > > > I had some concern about not having the quick-release mechanism. But > > when I was using the SKS fenders, I only tripped that quick-release > > once; I walked the bike off a curb carelessly. I recognize the > > possibility of having the problem the quick-release solves. But > > obviously it's not like people have been flung off their bikes on a > > regular basis when using metal fenders. So... you pays your money, you > > takes your pick. > > > And the metal fenders shore are purty! > > > Yours, > > Thomas Lynn Skean > > > On Jun 6, 9:29 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > > Actually, metals are pretty darn durable, and strangely the better (= > > > Honjo) aluminums seem more dent resistant than the Berthoud stainless > > > type. I've used metals (B Stainless and H Alum) on commuters, > > > including bus racks and back-of-vans and they hold up very well. > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Ginz wrote: > > > > Agreed, in my book, SKS are the standard. The metal fenders are > > > > beautiful but I'm afraid I'll bend them to their ruin. Also, there's > > > > the SKS quick release clip with is a feature I enjoy. > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > [email protected]. > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > Patrick Moore > > > Albuquerque, NM > > > For professional resumes, contact > > > Patrick Moore, ACRW > > > [email protected] > > > > A billion stars go spinning through the night > > > Blazing high above your head; > > > But in you is the Presence that will be > > > When all the stars are dead. > > > (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SKS Fenders have their place in my world
I've never had much trouble installing metal fenders. I must be doing it wrong. -Justin On Jun 6, 11:15 am, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > Am I alone in having the experience that metal fenders were *easier* > to install than the SKS fenders? Not way more easy, but definitely > easier. If for no other reason than having fewer things connecting the > dropout to the fender. And I certainly do like the extra length. > Admittedly, the real reason I actually tried them at all... the ones I > got are a better fit than any of the SKS fenders I've used and were > about 2/3 the price of SKS fenders at the time. > > I had some concern about not having the quick-release mechanism. But > when I was using the SKS fenders, I only tripped that quick-release > once; I walked the bike off a curb carelessly. I recognize the > possibility of having the problem the quick-release solves. But > obviously it's not like people have been flung off their bikes on a > regular basis when using metal fenders. So... you pays your money, you > takes your pick. > > And the metal fenders shore are purty! > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean > > On Jun 6, 9:29 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > > > Actually, metals are pretty darn durable, and strangely the better (= > > Honjo) aluminums seem more dent resistant than the Berthoud stainless > > type. I've used metals (B Stainless and H Alum) on commuters, > > including bus racks and back-of-vans and they hold up very well. > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Ginz wrote: > > > Agreed, in my book, SKS are the standard. The metal fenders are > > > beautiful but I'm afraid I'll bend them to their ruin. Also, there's > > > the SKS quick release clip with is a feature I enjoy. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > > Albuquerque, NM > > For professional resumes, contact > > Patrick Moore, ACRW > > [email protected] > > > A billion stars go spinning through the night > > Blazing high above your head; > > But in you is the Presence that will be > > When all the stars are dead. > > (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SKS Fenders have their place in my world
Am I alone in having the experience that metal fenders were *easier* to install than the SKS fenders? Not way more easy, but definitely easier. If for no other reason than having fewer things connecting the dropout to the fender. And I certainly do like the extra length. Admittedly, the real reason I actually tried them at all... the ones I got are a better fit than any of the SKS fenders I've used and were about 2/3 the price of SKS fenders at the time. I had some concern about not having the quick-release mechanism. But when I was using the SKS fenders, I only tripped that quick-release once; I walked the bike off a curb carelessly. I recognize the possibility of having the problem the quick-release solves. But obviously it's not like people have been flung off their bikes on a regular basis when using metal fenders. So... you pays your money, you takes your pick. And the metal fenders shore are purty! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jun 6, 9:29 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Actually, metals are pretty darn durable, and strangely the better (= > Honjo) aluminums seem more dent resistant than the Berthoud stainless > type. I've used metals (B Stainless and H Alum) on commuters, > including bus racks and back-of-vans and they hold up very well. > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Ginz wrote: > > Agreed, in my book, SKS are the standard. The metal fenders are > > beautiful but I'm afraid I'll bend them to their ruin. Also, there's > > the SKS quick release clip with is a feature I enjoy. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW > [email protected] > > A billion stars go spinning through the night > Blazing high above your head; > But in you is the Presence that will be > When all the stars are dead. > (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SKS Fenders have their place in my world
Actually, metals are pretty darn durable, and strangely the better (= Honjo) aluminums seem more dent resistant than the Berthoud stainless type. I've used metals (B Stainless and H Alum) on commuters, including bus racks and back-of-vans and they hold up very well. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Ginz wrote: > Agreed, in my book, SKS are the standard. The metal fenders are > beautiful but I'm afraid I'll bend them to their ruin. Also, there's > the SKS quick release clip with is a feature I enjoy. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW [email protected] A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SKS Fenders have their place in my world
I don't mind SKS fenders so much but they're a bummer if you're riding with others as they're too short to keep spray off of people riding directly in front and behind you. The issue of rear spray can be resolved with a flap but there is still a bit of spray that will shoot forward. Next winter I may try the SKS longboard fenders although both pairs of P45s that I have seem to be holding up well enough. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SKS Fenders have their place in my world
Agreed, in my book, SKS are the standard. The metal fenders are beautiful but I'm afraid I'll bend them to their ruin. Also, there's the SKS quick release clip with is a feature I enjoy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
