[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, 700x47 Marathon Greenguard, SKS Longboard

2012-04-06 Thread Scotty
I actually think it is the sidepull brake that causes the clearance issue 
that I have. Its really not much of an issue as the rub is very light and 
does not cause resistance, only a sound that bothers me. I have had someone 
tell me that they had the same setup on an Atlantis (Canti) with no issue, 
no rub. If your Sam has canti brakes I would bet that you would be fine 
with 38s. I actually wanted a Sam because they had Canti brakes but by the 
time I went to order they had changed to sidepulls. That was a move that 
disapointed me.

On Friday, April 6, 2012 12:39:35 PM UTC-4, Minh wrote:

> Hmmm. So would the 38 not fit on an orange Sam?  And to Scott or Jim, 
> would there be more clearance if the bike used cantis instead of side 
> pulls? 
>
> I have 700x35 supremes with metal fenders and good clearance now, wanted 
> to go 38 at least on the next set. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, 700x47 Marathon Greenguard, SKS Longboard

2012-04-06 Thread Scot Brooks
The cantis would make a difference in the front, not so much in the rear. 

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, 700x47 Marathon Greenguard, SKS Longboard

2012-04-06 Thread Minh
Hmmm. So would the 38 not fit on an orange Sam?  And to Scott or Jim, would 
there be more clearance if the bike used cantis instead of side pulls? 

I have 700x35 supremes with metal fenders and good clearance now, wanted to go 
38 at least on the next set. 

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, 700x47 Marathon Greenguard, SKS Longboard

2012-04-06 Thread Jim
So it's not just me :-)

I have the same setup with 700 x 38 Duremes.  I managed to get it to not 
rub rolling straight, but in the turns, the fender isn't stiff enough 
laterally to keep from a hint of rub.  I can live with it.  But there is 
not an extra millmeter there, not one.

Jim in Boulder

On Friday, April 6, 2012 7:38:13 AM UTC-6, Scotty wrote:
>
> I had to remove my longboards from my AHH because they did not quite work 
> with the 700X38 Schwalbe Marathons. Technically they fit but there was just 
> enough of a rub to be really annoying to me. I could not adjust them out 
> enough. Those look pretty close on your Sam. Do they roll without rubbing 
> at all?
> On Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:51:40 PM UTC-4, Scot Brooks wrote:
>>
>> Many of you probably know already, but this combination actually fits. I 
>> mean, it's super tight and requires a fair bit of fiddling to get just 
>> right, but I'm sitting here in amazement that it worked. I've been 
>> experimenting a bit lately; started with 38 Marathon GG, bought some 32 
>> Pasela TGs which I just don't like at all, 35 Marathon Racers (so awesome) 
>> that I'll be using for the Seattle to Portland ride this year, and now 
>> these 47 Marathon GG which might be even better than the ultra-sweet 38 
>> Marathons. In any case, I bought them as a 
>> fenderless-fairweather-camping-tire so it was just an experiment anyway. 
>>
>> Obviously I'm a sick man, but I knew you'd all understand my slightly 
>> obsessive actions and might appreciate the tiny bit of knowledge. Anybody 
>> in Seattle looking for some super dirty but practically brand new 700cx32 
>> Pasela TGs? They'll be cheap. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, 700x47 Marathon Greenguard, SKS Longboard

2012-04-06 Thread Scot Brooks
I use a 38 as my daily commuting tires, and those are cutting it pretty 
close on the Sam as well. Weird thing is that the size difference is very 
slight between the 38 and the 47, at least to my eyes. I got zero rubbing 
with the 47s while the bike was just on the stand. Real world? Yeah, there 
would probably be a little I guess. I won't be using these with fenders 
though, just rolling around on the nice days. 

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, 700x47 Marathon Greenguard, SKS Longboard

2012-04-06 Thread Scotty
I had to remove my longboards from my AHH because they did not quite work 
with the 700X38 Schwalbe Marathons. Technically they fit but there was just 
enough of a rub to be really annoying to me. I could not adjust them out 
enough. Those look pretty close on your Sam. Do they roll without rubbing 
at all?
On Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:51:40 PM UTC-4, Scot Brooks wrote:
>
> Many of you probably know already, but this combination actually fits. I 
> mean, it's super tight and requires a fair bit of fiddling to get just 
> right, but I'm sitting here in amazement that it worked. I've been 
> experimenting a bit lately; started with 38 Marathon GG, bought some 32 
> Pasela TGs which I just don't like at all, 35 Marathon Racers (so awesome) 
> that I'll be using for the Seattle to Portland ride this year, and now 
> these 47 Marathon GG which might be even better than the ultra-sweet 38 
> Marathons. In any case, I bought them as a 
> fenderless-fairweather-camping-tire so it was just an experiment anyway. 
>
> Obviously I'm a sick man, but I knew you'd all understand my slightly 
> obsessive actions and might appreciate the tiny bit of knowledge. Anybody 
> in Seattle looking for some super dirty but practically brand new 700cx32 
> Pasela TGs? They'll be cheap. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, 700x47 Marathon Greenguard, SKS Longboard

2012-04-06 Thread EricP
That's the newer Hillborne.  Which does fit larger tires.  The first 
generation is good for 40.  Pretty sure a 45 would not work out.  Not so 
much the fork at the chainstays.
 
If I remember correctly, Jim Thill at Hiawatha Cyclery installed a set of 
WTB 700x45s on a orange Hillborne.
 
Glad to know the newer ones take bigger tires.  There are many times I wish 
for a slightly larger tire on my SH.
 
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
 

On Friday, April 6, 2012 2:07:31 AM UTC-5, charlie wrote:

> I have the older 700x47's (the non Green Guards) on my Trucker and 
> enjoy the confidence they inspire when riding over crummy roads. It 
> just takes the stress out of my ride when I roll with those tires. 
> Glad to see they fit a frame with side pull brakes. I wondered about 
> that actually as I like the ease of set up with side pulls. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, 700x47 Marathon Greenguard, SKS Longboard

2012-04-06 Thread Joe Bernard
I like the barrel adjuster. Ya never know when you might need to squirt a 
bit of Sheldon's Fender Nut Grease in there. ;-)

On Thursday, April 5, 2012 8:22:05 PM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote:

> And photos. http://imgur.com/a/PqkMV
>
> Not terribly revealing, but something anyway. Yes, that's a barrel 
> adjuster on the back of my Sheldon's Fender Nut. No good reason. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, 700x47 Marathon Greenguard, SKS Longboard

2012-04-06 Thread charlie
I have the older 700x47's (the non Green Guards) on my Trucker and
enjoy the confidence they inspire when riding over crummy roads. It
just takes the stress out of my ride when I roll with those tires.
Glad to see they fit a frame with side pull brakes. I wondered about
that actually as I like the ease of set up with side pulls.

On Apr 5, 7:51 pm, Scot Brooks  wrote:
> Many of you probably know already, but this combination actually fits. I
> mean, it's super tight and requires a fair bit of fiddling to get just
> right, but I'm sitting here in amazement that it worked. I've been
> experimenting a bit lately; started with 38 Marathon GG, bought some 32
> Pasela TGs which I just don't like at all, 35 Marathon Racers (so awesome)
> that I'll be using for the Seattle to Portland ride this year, and now
> these 47 Marathon GG which might be even better than the ultra-sweet 38
> Marathons. In any case, I bought them as a
> fenderless-fairweather-camping-tire so it was just an experiment anyway.
>
> Obviously I'm a sick man, but I knew you'd all understand my slightly
> obsessive actions and might appreciate the tiny bit of knowledge. Anybody
> in Seattle looking for some super dirty but practically brand new 700cx32
> Pasela TGs? They'll be cheap.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, 700x47 Marathon Greenguard, SKS Longboard

2012-04-05 Thread Peter Morgano
thats so tight it might be safer than a the bit of space between my Hetres
an VO Zeppelins on my Hilsen.  You went for almost Atlantis esque tires on
a Hillborne, good show!

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Scot Brooks  wrote:

> And photos. http://imgur.com/a/PqkMV
>
> Not terribly revealing, but something anyway. Yes, that's a barrel
> adjuster on the back of my Sheldon's Fender Nut. No good reason.
>
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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, 700x47 Marathon Greenguard, SKS Longboard

2012-04-05 Thread Scot Brooks
And photos. http://imgur.com/a/PqkMV

Not terribly revealing, but something anyway. Yes, that's a barrel adjuster 
on the back of my Sheldon's Fender Nut. No good reason. 

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