[RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
> > I think I will ask my LBS if they can get it done for me 7-speed. > I'll get a new chain to boot. > Sounds like easier shifting. > 10-speed is pretty tight spacing and I get spontaneous shifts if I am not > careful. > Wider spacing sounds easier. > I'll go 7-speed. Less cogs the better I think for me. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/S-ghPmjNUZsJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
You can use regular, inter-cog spacers. I squeeze two of them at the back end of the cassette so that I can use just seven at the for'ard end of the f/hub body. On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 7:34 AM, David Spranger wrote: > You can replace your 10 speed cassette with a 7 speed. You will need to add > a spacer like this: > http://www.jensonusa.com/!dKSLZ62ZteeEKb6SVVR8ZA!/Cassette-Spacer > > You will also need to adjust your limit screws. > > David > > Charlotte, NC > > > On Saturday, August 18, 2012 9:05:51 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: >> >> Wait, so is it possible then to just take off my 10-speed shimano >> cassette, and put on the 7-speed shimano cassette, and use it with the >> ultegra derailer I have in friction? >> I could set the limit screws so the derailer wouldn't move too far? >> Or would a 7-speed cassette be the same width as a 10-speed? >> Would it work on my 135 drop-out measurements? >> Does chain line factor in? >> >> Sorry for these questions, but I am new to drivetrain mechanics. Haven't >> messed wih 'em too much other than basics. >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:59:18 PM UTC-4, William wrote: >>> >>> I'm delighted at the shifting of Silver Downtube shifters with a 9-speed >>> cassette. I'm running that setup on three bikes. I'm contemplating a >>> lightweight 650B wheelset. I already have the Pacenti 650B road rims >>> (confirmed <400g on my scale). I'm probably going to get a pair of White >>> Industries hubs. I'm thinking about whether the super light and swanky SRAM >>> cassettes will work with friction shifters. My question is: Are any list >>> members using Silver downtube shifters with a 10-sp SRAM or Shimano >>> cassette? What rear der? What chain? Do you like it? >>> >>> Bill > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Iu1UwPreZZIJ. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- "When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville." Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
You can replace your 10 speed cassette with a 7 speed. You will need to add a spacer like this: http://www.jensonusa.com/!dKSLZ62ZteeEKb6SVVR8ZA!/Cassette-Spacer You will also need to adjust your limit screws. David Charlotte, NC On Saturday, August 18, 2012 9:05:51 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: > > Wait, so is it possible then to just take off my 10-speed shimano > cassette, and put on the 7-speed shimano cassette, and use it with the > ultegra derailer I have in friction? > I could set the limit screws so the derailer wouldn't move too far? > Or would a 7-speed cassette be the same width as a 10-speed? > Would it work on my 135 drop-out measurements? > Does chain line factor in? > > Sorry for these questions, but I am new to drivetrain mechanics. Haven't > messed wih 'em too much other than basics. > > > > > On Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:59:18 PM UTC-4, William wrote: > >> I'm delighted at the shifting of Silver Downtube shifters with a 9-speed >> cassette. I'm running that setup on three bikes. I'm contemplating a >> lightweight 650B wheelset. I already have the Pacenti 650B road rims >> (confirmed <400g on my scale). I'm probably going to get a pair of White >> Industries hubs. I'm thinking about whether the super light and swanky >> SRAM cassettes will work with friction shifters. My question is: Are any >> list members using Silver downtube shifters with a 10-sp SRAM or Shimano >> cassette? What rear der? What chain? Do you like it? >> >> Bill >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Iu1UwPreZZIJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
I have not had any problem mating silver shifters with a good Shimano 9 speed cassette and a good conex chain. I ran into a lot of trouble with an inexpensive SRAM chain & cassette. I do get occasional ghost shifts with the same set up on BE, but it always seems to be connected to a slightly loose D ring. Personally I think a hi quality 9 speed will give a better experience than a mid level 10 speed set up. What do you hope to get by going 10 speed? I know the steps can be a little smaller and I like that but the only time it seems to matter with 9 speed is between 14 & 16 or 15 & 17. There is no perfect solution here; it always about what compromise you are willing to make. When you're done with this project let us know how a lightweight 650 works out. I keep thinking about it for my Marinoni racing frame but never quite get to the point of wanting to spend the money. Michael On Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:59:18 PM UTC-4, William wrote: > > I'm delighted at the shifting of Silver Downtube shifters with a 9-speed > cassette. I'm running that setup on three bikes. I'm contemplating a > lightweight 650B wheelset. I already have the Pacenti 650B road rims > (confirmed <400g on my scale). I'm probably going to get a pair of White > Industries hubs. I'm thinking about whether the super light and swanky > SRAM cassettes will work with friction shifters. My question is: Are any > list members using Silver downtube shifters with a 10-sp SRAM or Shimano > cassette? What rear der? What chain? Do you like it? > > Bill > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FxU7SD8qm4IJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
Wait, so is it possible then to just take off my 10-speed shimano cassette, and put on the 7-speed shimano cassette, and use it with the ultegra derailer I have in friction? I could set the limit screws so the derailer wouldn't move too far? Or would a 7-speed cassette be the same width as a 10-speed? Would it work on my 135 drop-out measurements? Does chain line factor in? Sorry for these questions, but I am new to drivetrain mechanics. Haven't messed wih 'em too much other than basics. On Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:59:18 PM UTC-4, William wrote: > I'm delighted at the shifting of Silver Downtube shifters with a 9-speed > cassette. I'm running that setup on three bikes. I'm contemplating a > lightweight 650B wheelset. I already have the Pacenti 650B road rims > (confirmed <400g on my scale). I'm probably going to get a pair of White > Industries hubs. I'm thinking about whether the super light and swanky > SRAM cassettes will work with friction shifters. My question is: Are any > list members using Silver downtube shifters with a 10-sp SRAM or Shimano > cassette? What rear der? What chain? Do you like it? > > Bill > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Tbg5sLC1Z7cJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
On Fri, 2012-08-17 at 17:22 -0700, lungimsam wrote: > I have a 10-speed cassette, but I am starting to get a better feel for > when the chain moves. Lately I have been paying attention more and > hope I can get better at it. > But what would be really cool, is a 5-speed cassette. > Maybe for my next drivetrain I will try to get a 7 in the back, 2 up > front, if 7's even exhist nowadays. 7 speed cassettes are widely available, in just about every combination they ever came in -- unlike 8s, most combinations of which were discontinued just a few years ago. http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/k7.html#7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
Hiya! http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3902.m570.l1313&_nkw=7+speed+cassette&_sacat=0 Seeketh and ye shall findeth Salud Schwartzeth From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of lungimsam [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 6:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette? I have a 10-speed cassette, but I am starting to get a better feel for when the chain moves. Lately I have been paying attention more and hope I can get better at it. But what would be really cool, is a 5-speed cassette. Maybe for my next drivetrain I will try to get a 7 in the back, 2 up front, if 7's even exhist nowadays. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Quhu8v-ucV4J. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
I have a 10-speed cassette, but I am starting to get a better feel for when the chain moves. Lately I have been paying attention more and hope I can get better at it. But what would be really cool, is a 5-speed cassette. Maybe for my next drivetrain I will try to get a 7 in the back, 2 up front, if 7's even exhist nowadays. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Quhu8v-ucV4J. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
On Fri, 2012-08-17 at 14:56 -0700, William wrote: > correct. Some complain that as cog spacing gets narrower, it gets > harder for them to hit a cog with friction shifters. I have a hard > time believing it would be an unacceptably difficult thing, so I'm > inclined to try it. Just like I tried using a Dura Ace 9-speed rear > derailer as a lighter weight option to my short cage XT. I hated it > and went back to the XT, which is awesome for me. I was unable to shift 8 speed Hyperglide without unacceptable ghost shifting, but find 7 speed Hyperglide just fine. YMMV. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
correct. Some complain that as cog spacing gets narrower, it gets harder for them to hit a cog with friction shifters. I have a hard time believing it would be an unacceptably difficult thing, so I'm inclined to try it. Just like I tried using a Dura Ace 9-speed rear derailer as a lighter weight option to my short cage XT. I hated it and went back to the XT, which is awesome for me. YMMV On Friday, August 17, 2012 2:20:50 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On Fri, 2012-08-17 at 14:14 -0700, lungimsam wrote: > > There's no friction option on the Silver Shifter? > > The Silver Shifter is friction only, with no INDEX option. > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8mYy83kxO4oJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
On Fri, 2012-08-17 at 14:14 -0700, lungimsam wrote: > There's no friction option on the Silver Shifter? The Silver Shifter is friction only, with no INDEX option. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
There's no friction option on the Silver Shifter? On Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:59:18 PM UTC-4, William wrote: > I'm delighted at the shifting of Silver Downtube shifters with a 9-speed > cassette. I'm running that setup on three bikes. I'm contemplating a > lightweight 650B wheelset. I already have the Pacenti 650B road rims > (confirmed <400g on my scale). I'm probably going to get a pair of White > Industries hubs. I'm thinking about whether the super light and swanky > SRAM cassettes will work with friction shifters. My question is: Are any > list members using Silver downtube shifters with a 10-sp SRAM or Shimano > cassette? What rear der? What chain? Do you like it? > > Bill > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dMxAWRGPoXIJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
Since I can get shimano indexed 10sp downtube shifters for <$100, I'll probably give the friction ones a try and have indexed DTs as a bailout option. On Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:46:12 PM UTC-7, Ryan Ray wrote: > > Friction shifting stops at 8 for me. Though I use the Shimano ones for > what that's worth. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VW4PfPH6sHAJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
Friction shifting stops at 8 for me. Though I use the Shimano ones for what that's worth. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/75QbwVQR8K4J. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
I have found that using DT friction shifters on anything with more than 7 cogs is too fussy due to the reduced space between the cogs. I have the Silver DT's on a bike ith a 9 speed and I am always overshifting. 6 and 7, no problems. On Aug 16, 4:43 pm, lungimsam wrote: > 3rd review down on link below has a cat that uses them on 10speed and says > they work. But no details. > I would call Rivendell and ask. Let us know the reply. > I am thinking of getting some someday for my 10-speed cassette, as I am now > using DT shifters on my bar ends.:http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/sh1no.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
3rd review down on link below has a cat that uses them on 10speed and says they work. But no details. I would call Rivendell and ask. Let us know the reply. I am thinking of getting some someday for my 10-speed cassette, as I am now using DT shifters on my bar ends.: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/sh1no.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ypQCiUwWtE4J. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
