subject:"\[RBW\] Re\: Things I wish Rivendell still sold.."

[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-27 Thread Amit Singh

- Books! I miss the book selection that was at Bike Book and Hatchet. I'd 
love to somehow see this brought back. The Riv Monthly Book Club? Once a 
month, a book from Riv is delivered to us along with a written thing on who 
selected the book and why they like it, and why we should read it. Would be 
fantastic. I'd gladly sign up now for this.
- Pakistani Goat Skin Padded Riding Gloves - (whoa they have them back now. 
yay!)
- El Duke's Degreaser (seems perpetually sold out)
- Grey Grid line of bags. Specifically, the Large Grey Grid Bag (if anyone 
has one they'd like to sell, please message me off list!)
- Wooly Warm Socks
- The super excellent merino wool shirts that would fit tall and have thumb 
holes. Best second layer riding shirt ever. I let a shivering person on a 
brevet borrow mine and they enjoyed it so much that they refused to return 
it :(
- Chambray shirts
- Seersucker shirts
- 70's African Funk Instructional or Fun Videos (compliments of Jay Ritchey)

On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 5:56:32 AM UTC-8, phil k wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill,
>
> The reason I was looking for a smaller version of Huge Rosco MTN Mixte 
> were precisely 4 (more aesthetic) reasons:
>
> 1.) Uses Hunq fork instead of Joe fork for larger tires
> 2.) The Hunq fork is can fit the Nitto 32f mini front rack which i already 
> have
> 3.) The seat stay cluster is much nicer on the HRMM
> 4.) I like the color better of the HRMM
>
> Till then, I'm probably going to keep my eyes peeled for the 
> yellowish-green CLEM L. Or wait to see what Riv puts out next.
>
> Phil Kim
> Arlington, VA
>
> On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 2:53:58 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> phil k indicated he wished Rivendell would sell him a MMMNAARMBST.
>>
>> For those who aren't familiar with the acronym, MMMNAARMBST stands for 
>> Medium Mountain Mixte (Not Actually A Real Mixte) Brand Step Through.
>>
>> phil, if you are sincerely wanting to purchase something like that, I did 
>> offer up my MMMNAARMBST earlier this year.  Search FS: Medium Mountain 
>> Mixte--You choose my adventure again!"
>>
>>
>> If you want to talk me out of that bike, I'll stick to the price I was 
>> offering when I listed it.  PM me if you want to discuss it.  I think 
>> you'll find photos in the thread.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 10:01:47 AM UTC-8, phil k wrote:
>>>
>>> I never had a chance to buy it, but I wish Riv made the Rosco Mtn Miixte 
>>> in a size 55cm. I really love the big ones that came out.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-27 Thread phil k

Thanks Bill,

The reason I was looking for a smaller version of Huge Rosco MTN Mixte were 
precisely 4 (more aesthetic) reasons:

1.) Uses Hunq fork instead of Joe fork for larger tires
2.) The Hunq fork is can fit the Nitto 32f mini front rack which i already 
have
3.) The seat stay cluster is much nicer on the HRMM
4.) I like the color better of the HRMM

Till then, I'm probably going to keep my eyes peeled for the 
yellowish-green CLEM L. Or wait to see what Riv puts out next.

Phil Kim
Arlington, VA

On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 2:53:58 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> phil k indicated he wished Rivendell would sell him a MMMNAARMBST.
>
> For those who aren't familiar with the acronym, MMMNAARMBST stands for 
> Medium Mountain Mixte (Not Actually A Real Mixte) Brand Step Through.
>
> phil, if you are sincerely wanting to purchase something like that, I did 
> offer up my MMMNAARMBST earlier this year.  Search FS: Medium Mountain 
> Mixte--You choose my adventure again!"
>
>
> If you want to talk me out of that bike, I'll stick to the price I was 
> offering when I listed it.  PM me if you want to discuss it.  I think 
> you'll find photos in the thread.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 10:01:47 AM UTC-8, phil k wrote:
>>
>> I never had a chance to buy it, but I wish Riv made the Rosco Mtn Miixte 
>> in a size 55cm. I really love the big ones that came out.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-26 Thread Bill Lindsay

phil k indicated he wished Rivendell would sell him a MMMNAARMBST.

For those who aren't familiar with the acronym, MMMNAARMBST stands for 
Medium Mountain Mixte (Not Actually A Real Mixte) Brand Step Through.

phil, if you are sincerely wanting to purchase something like that, I did 
offer up my MMMNAARMBST earlier this year.  Search FS: Medium Mountain 
Mixte--You choose my adventure again!"

If you want to talk me out of that bike, I'll stick to the price I was 
offering when I listed it.  PM me if you want to discuss it.  I think 
you'll find photos in the thread.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 10:01:47 AM UTC-8, phil k wrote:
>
> I never had a chance to buy it, but I wish Riv made the Rosco Mtn Miixte 
> in a size 55cm. I really love the big ones that came out.
>

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-26 Thread phil k

I never had a chance to buy it, but I wish Riv made the Rosco Mtn Miixte in 
a size 55cm. I really love the big ones that came out.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-21 Thread Rod Holland

The 26" Surly LHT fits Rat Taps with fenders, and is a hoot to ride. (Lest 
anyone feel the need to reflexively advance the "feels dead" trope, let me 
suggest that Compass tires have a vivifying effect). But agree, a Riv offering 
in larger frame sizes that mounted Rat Traps would be a GOOD THING.

rod

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-21 Thread John Bokman

I've also been waiting for a 26" wheeled bike from Riv since the 
all-rounder. Although I'm not a short rider (I'm 6' tall, with 89cm PBH), I 
want to ride a 26" wheeled bike once again. Quick, nimble, fun, and 
versatile tire sizes. I love my Sam, but I'd buy a 26"er in a heartbeat if 
one was offered.

On Tuesday, November 13, 2018 at 8:48:18 AM UTC-8, Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
> I would like to third this idea. I was hoping the upcoming mtb would have 
> a 26” wheel, but am told all too often its a dead end. Steve
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 11:41 AM S. Greco  > wrote:
>
>> +1 for All Rounder
>>
>> I would buy one today if it was available (as a standard non-custom 
>> priced frame)
>>
>> I really wish Riv would really add a 26" XO/All Rounder style ride into 
>> the lineup
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-16 Thread Ana Candela

Blakcloud: as far as I know, the Betty Foy was slightly redesigned and renamed 
as the Cheviot. Rivendell is making both elegant mixtes like the Cheviot and 
also fun stepthroughs like the rosco project 😍

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-15 Thread Patrick Moore

Thanks. They look like nice frames, and again, I'd like to build one for my
daughter, but I wondered about those curved rear stays.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 3:34 AM [email protected] <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't think New Albion is ripping anyone off design wise. The frames are
> not Rivendells and don't quite ride like them, but they are nice. Ours came
> to $1,100 fully built, which is less than many frame sets only at RBW.
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 14, 2018, 11:51:25 PM CST, Patrick Moore <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> OTOH: is this an illegitimate Riv design rip-off?
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 8:04 PM Fullylugged 
> wrote:
>
> re: The Betty Foy. The New Albion Starling is close in design and
> affordable. I built one up for a family member and she really likes it. the
> blue is close to Ram blue too.
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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-15 Thread Joe Bernard

I have the 650B x 32 version available, too. $40 shipped. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-15 Thread Lum Gim Fong

Banana sax grid grey

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-15 Thread R Shannon

Howard,

That poster. Oh yeah!

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 7:32 AM Howard Ramsay  wrote:

> [image: RIVENDELL poster.jpg]
>
>
> On Saturday, September 22, 2012 at 9:27:43 AM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>>
>> Kinda sad that I missed out on what I believe was the "Golden Years" of
>> Rivendell products. Not saying that their products aren't Golden now. It's
>> just that I always end up finding Rivendell products on ebay that were sold
>> years before I even found the website.  With that these are things I wish
>> Rivendell sold still.
>>
>> Rivendell wool jersey! < Always feel like when I find one my size on
>> ebay they go for 4 !times the original price. I like pockets on my back I
>> feel for biking it's the easy accessible place to grab things. Also they
>> make for great places for hiding bananas
>>
>> Aussie leather slipper wool socks << I had two pairs of these that were a
>> size too big for me but I would still regularly used on camping trips. I
>> loved them! But after a couple of washing the leather bottoms were done.
>> When I went back to try to get them
>>
>> Wool Uno pocket shirt<--- I remember seeing these on the website and
>> thinking how smart it was but never jumped on it because I was a poor
>> college student. Now Rapha sells one for like 80 dollars! I felt they were
>> a smart design that was way before their time.
>>
>> Rivendell Brooks saddle? <-- I've seen these floating around the internet
>> from time to time. I thought it was a neat idea.
>>
>> Anyone else have other things they wish Rivendell still sold?
>>
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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-15 Thread jim

I have a pair of the 700 x32 speedblends if anyone is interested. Very low 
miles. Jim

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-15 Thread Howard Ramsay



[image: RIVENDELL poster.jpg]


On Saturday, September 22, 2012 at 9:27:43 AM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Kinda sad that I missed out on what I believe was the "Golden Years" of 
> Rivendell products. Not saying that their products aren't Golden now. It's 
> just that I always end up finding Rivendell products on ebay that were sold 
> years before I even found the website.  With that these are things I wish 
> Rivendell sold still.
>
> Rivendell wool jersey! < Always feel like when I find one my size on 
> ebay they go for 4 !times the original price. I like pockets on my back I 
> feel for biking it's the easy accessible place to grab things. Also they 
> make for great places for hiding bananas 
>
> Aussie leather slipper wool socks << I had two pairs of these that were a 
> size too big for me but I would still regularly used on camping trips. I 
> loved them! But after a couple of washing the leather bottoms were done. 
> When I went back to try to get them
>
> Wool Uno pocket shirt<--- I remember seeing these on the website and 
> thinking how smart it was but never jumped on it because I was a poor 
> college student. Now Rapha sells one for like 80 dollars! I felt they were 
> a smart design that was way before their time. 
>
> Rivendell Brooks saddle? <-- I've seen these floating around the internet 
> from time to time. I thought it was a neat idea. 
>
> Anyone else have other things they wish Rivendell still sold?
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-15 Thread [email protected]

 I don't think New Albion is ripping anyone off design wise. The frames are not 
Rivendells and don't quite ride like them, but they are nice. Ours came to 
$1,100 fully built, which is less than many frame sets only at RBW. 

On Wednesday, November 14, 2018, 11:51:25 PM CST, Patrick Moore 
 wrote: 
OTOH: is this an illegitimate Riv design rip-off?
On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 8:04 PM Fullylugged  wrote:

re: The Betty Foy. The New Albion Starling is close in design and affordable. I 
built one up for a family member and she really likes it. the blue is close to 
Ram blue too.


  

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-15 Thread iamkeith

In the spirit of fond nostalgia, and not criticism orlamenting of change:  I 
really wish I'd have gotten some speed-blend tires.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-14 Thread Patrick Moore

That's a pretty looking frame, and the price is hard to beat.

The ad copy is obscure: - Tange Infinity Butted CrMo steel with HT steel
tubes

What is butted cromo and what is hi ten? Do they mean cromo main tubes and
HT stays?

[This site seems to explain it. Apparently cromo fork, too.]

https://www.bikemania.biz/new-albion-privateer-road-frame.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=1o1&scid=scplpMerry-Albion-Privateer-Frame&sc_intid=Merry-Albion-Privateer-Frame&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwuX43NnV3gIVD7jACh04Ig_YEAQYASABEgIZFfD_BwE

At any rate, I'd consider one of these for my daughter, if she were ever to
take up riding a bike again. (Right now she's driving my car.)

OTOH: is this an illegitimate Riv design rip-off?

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 8:04 PM Fullylugged 
wrote:

> re: The Betty Foy. The New Albion Starling is close in design and
> affordable. I built one up for a family member and she really likes it. the
> blue is close to Ram blue too.
>
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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-14 Thread Fullylugged

re: The Betty Foy. The New Albion Starling is close in design and affordable. I 
built one up for a family member and she really likes it. the blue is close to 
Ram blue too.

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-14 Thread John Phillips

Old-style, slightly baggier, MUSA knickers & shorts. 

The crotch is way too high in the new MUSA pants and I love the knickers. 

When I wear out what I have, I'll have to stick to the Compass knickers. If 
they bring back the old-style knickers, I'm buying at least a dozen pairs.

John

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-14 Thread Steve Butcher

Hi Manuel.  I sent you an e-mail about a jersey.  Steve 

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 at 9:27:43 AM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Kinda sad that I missed out on what I believe was the "Golden Years" of 
> Rivendell products. Not saying that their products aren't Golden now. It's 
> just that I always end up finding Rivendell products on ebay that were sold 
> years before I even found the website.  With that these are things I wish 
> Rivendell sold still.
>
> Rivendell wool jersey! < Always feel like when I find one my size on 
> ebay they go for 4 !times the original price. I like pockets on my back I 
> feel for biking it's the easy accessible place to grab things. Also they 
> make for great places for hiding bananas 
>
> Aussie leather slipper wool socks << I had two pairs of these that were a 
> size too big for me but I would still regularly used on camping trips. I 
> loved them! But after a couple of washing the leather bottoms were done. 
> When I went back to try to get them
>
> Wool Uno pocket shirt<--- I remember seeing these on the website and 
> thinking how smart it was but never jumped on it because I was a poor 
> college student. Now Rapha sells one for like 80 dollars! I felt they were 
> a smart design that was way before their time. 
>
> Rivendell Brooks saddle? <-- I've seen these floating around the internet 
> from time to time. I thought it was a neat idea. 
>
> Anyone else have other things they wish Rivendell still sold?
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-14 Thread Eric

No Rivendell jerseys, per Vince via email reply.

But yeah, I'm sure those bandanas are flying off the shelf! 

I bet in 6 years (since Manny's post) Riv could of sold thousands of 
jerseys! 


On Saturday, September 22, 2012 at 9:27:43 AM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
>
> Rivendell wool jersey! < Always feel like when I find one my size on 
> ebay they go for 4 !times the original price. I like pockets on my back I 
> feel for biking it's the easy accessible place to grab things. Also they 
> make for great places for hiding bananas 
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-14 Thread RichS

Daniel,

Another 26" wheel fan here. My 53cm Atlantis has them and I concur with you 
on the confident handling, cornering and turning in qualities this bike has.
Good to know a 26" wheeled Atlantis is still available.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Tuesday, November 13, 2018 at 12:52:03 PM UTC-5, Daniel M wrote:
>
> And here I was thinking I was the only one holding a candle for 
> lightweight 26"-wheeled allroad bikes! I bought a pristine 1993 Bridgestone 
> MB-1 a few years ago, converted it to drop bars (a la the 1987 model), and 
> put on a pair of Rat Trap Pass ELs. It's my favorite road bike I've ever 
> had - the confidence, handling, and cornering grip on pavement are 
> astounding, and when flying down rough dirt roads and trails, I 
> occasionally say to myself "this thing is really good off-road too ... oh 
> wait, it's a mountain bike!" 
>
> I then built a Rohloff - disk brake equivalent around a New Albion Drake 
> frame intended for 650b/27.5"/584 wheels with tire widths ranging from 
> 42-48mm. I instead built a 26"/584 wheelset and run standard Rat Trap Pass 
> tires (52mm) on that one. It's basically all I ride now - high, flared drop 
> bars, quiet, maintenance-free drivetrain with perfect shifting across all 
> 14 gears even while stopped, and a cloudlike ride over all surfaces, It's 
> definitely heavier then the MB-1, but I only notice that when lifting it, 
> not while riding it! 
>
> There is nothing like either of these bikes available off the shelf, which 
> is a pity. Going down to a 26" rim and running the widest and tallest 
> ultra-lightweight tire available makes me wonder why anyone would want a 
> larger rim diameter. And my MB-1 is the largest size they came in (20.5"?) 
> and my Drake is a (virtual) 58cm, the second largest size, so the sizing 
> the wheel to the frame thing doesn't make sense to me when there are wider 
> (i.e. taller) tires available in 26" than in other sizes. In my experience 
> the height of the tire off the rim makes far, far, far more difference to 
> me than the diameter of the rim. I run 20x2.0" Big Apples on my Dahon 
> folding bike and ride that thing on all sorts of dirt roads and trails as 
> well. Think about that: it's only a 20" rim, but the tires are wider than 
> the widest lightweight 650b tire (48mm) currently available! 
>
> That said, 26"(559) and 27.5"(584) are really close to each other;  in 
> reality, 27.5" rims (650b/584) are much closer to 26" rims (559) than to 
> 29" rims (700c/622) If all things were equal, then I think the difference 
> between 26" and 27.5" rims would start to be a bit of hair-splitting. For 
> example, my adventure touring tank is a Surly Troll (also Rohloff-ed and 
> also XL - I like my frames big even though I'm only 5'9") running 26x3.0" 
> WTB Rangers. My friend's Marin Pine Mountain (really nice bike) has 
> 27.5x3.0" Schwalbes, and when the two bikes are next to each other, the 
> overall wheel size difference is minimal. So since there are plenty of 
> adventure frames intended for 27.5x3.0" tires and plenty of tires available 
> to match, I will survive if 26" adventure tires become unavailable. It will 
> mean new rims and a new frame, but we are still a long way from that point. 
>
> But, for road tires, all things are NOT equal. The Rat Trap Passes are the 
> widest lightweight tires available, and only available in 26", and frankly 
> that combo fits a lot of road-oriented frames better than a 27.5/650b x 
> 52mm tire would, especially if you want to run fenders as well! So I will 
> keep a bike or two capable of running RTPs as long as they are availabe, 
> and at this point that means nothing from Riv. The two 26" wheeled 58cm 
> Atlantises that popped up for sale in the past few weeks are the closest 
> they've come in recent years, and those are drool-worthy. 
>
> I wish Riv would make a utilitarian, TIG-ed, 26"-wheeled bike in the 
> lightest tubing they are willing, like a Roadini or AHH, but built like a 
> single person HubbuHubbuH. I would call it the HubbuH. It would have the 
> threadless 1+1/8" steerer and the Eccentric Bottom Bracket and ONE of the 
> disk-brake eyelets from the tandem, and no double top tubes! That way I 
> could set it up with derailers like my MB-1 or with my Rohloff like the 
> Drake. (The EBB is needed to tension the chain, and the single disc-brake 
> eyelet is used to for the anti-torque arm). This would be the perfect 
> all-rounder: room for up to 26"x60mm tires with fenders, and useable with 
> derailers, but also as a singlespeed/fixed gear or with a Shimano or 
> Rohloff internal hub. The best part is that HubbuH could be taken as 
> "hubber", as in the first Rivendell that plays nicely with IGHs. Since the 
> HubbuHubbuH uses two headbadges, this would only require one. It could be 
> built using parts they have already used in the past, and it would give 
> them a nicer alternative to the Breezer Uptown 8 that I otherwise recomend 
> to anyone who will liste

[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-14 Thread Ron Mc

my cat does that, too, but I watch the merino too closely for her

On Tuesday, November 13, 2018 at 2:01:30 PM UTC-6, ian m wrote:
>
> The MUSA purple and gray striped long sleeve wool shirt. My favorite base 
> layer and it's full of holes from my cats laying on top of it when I'm not 
> wearing it and making biscuits. Would buy three
>

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-13 Thread ian m

The MUSA purple and gray striped long sleeve wool shirt. My favorite base 
layer and it's full of holes from my cats laying on top of it when I'm not 
wearing it and making biscuits. Would buy three

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-13 Thread Daniel M

And here I was thinking I was the only one holding a candle for lightweight 
26"-wheeled allroad bikes! I bought a pristine 1993 Bridgestone MB-1 a few 
years ago, converted it to drop bars (a la the 1987 model), and put on a pair 
of Rat Trap Pass ELs. It's my favorite road bike I've ever had - the 
confidence, handling, and cornering grip on pavement are astounding, and when 
flying down rough dirt roads and trails, I occasionally say to myself "this 
thing is really good off-road too ... oh wait, it's a mountain bike!"

I then built a Rohloff - disk brake equivalent around a New Albion Drake frame 
intended for 650b/27.5"/584 wheels with tire widths ranging from 42-48mm. I 
instead built a 26"/584 wheelset and run standard Rat Trap Pass tires (52mm) on 
that one. It's basically all I ride now - high, flared drop bars, quiet, 
maintenance-free drivetrain with perfect shifting across all 14 gears even 
while stopped, and a cloudlike ride over all surfaces, It's definitely heavier 
then the MB-1, but I only notice that when lifting it, not while riding it!

There is nothing like either of these bikes available off the shelf, which is a 
pity. Going down to a 26" rim and running the widest and tallest 
ultra-lightweight tire available makes me wonder why anyone would want a larger 
rim diameter. And my MB-1 is the largest size they came in (20.5"?) and my 
Drake is a (virtual) 58cm, the second largest size, so the sizing the wheel to 
the frame thing doesn't make sense to me when there are wider (i.e. taller) 
tires available in 26" than in other sizes. In my experience the height of the 
tire off the rim makes far, far, far more difference to me than the diameter of 
the rim. I run 20x2.0" Big Apples on my Dahon folding bike and ride that thing 
on all sorts of dirt roads and trails as well. Think about that: it's only a 
20" rim, but the tires are wider than the widest lightweight 650b tire (48mm) 
currently available!

That said, 26"(559) and 27.5"(584) are really close to each other;  in reality, 
27.5" rims (650b/584) are much closer to 26" rims (559) than to 29" rims 
(700c/622) If all things were equal, then I think the difference between 26" 
and 27.5" rims would start to be a bit of hair-splitting. For example, my 
adventure touring tank is a Surly Troll (also Rohloff-ed and also XL - I like 
my frames big even though I'm only 5'9") running 26x3.0" WTB Rangers. My 
friend's Marin Pine Mountain (really nice bike) has 27.5x3.0" Schwalbes, and 
when the two bikes are next to each other, the overall wheel size difference is 
minimal. So since there are plenty of adventure frames intended for 27.5x3.0" 
tires and plenty of tires available to match, I will survive if 26" adventure 
tires become unavailable. It will mean new rims and a new frame, but we are 
still a long way from that point.

But, for road tires, all things are NOT equal. The Rat Trap Passes are the 
widest lightweight tires available, and only available in 26", and frankly that 
combo fits a lot of road-oriented frames better than a 27.5/650b x 52mm tire 
would, especially if you want to run fenders as well! So I will keep a bike or 
two capable of running RTPs as long as they are availabe, and at this point 
that means nothing from Riv. The two 26" wheeled 58cm Atlantises that popped up 
for sale in the past few weeks are the closest they've come in recent years, 
and those are drool-worthy.

I wish Riv would make a utilitarian, TIG-ed, 26"-wheeled bike in the lightest 
tubing they are willing, like a Roadini or AHH, but built like a single person 
HubbuHubbuH. I would call it the HubbuH. It would have the threadless 1+1/8" 
steerer and the Eccentric Bottom Bracket and ONE of the disk-brake eyelets from 
the tandem, and no double top tubes! That way I could set it up with derailers 
like my MB-1 or with my Rohloff like the Drake. (The EBB is needed to tension 
the chain, and the single disc-brake eyelet is used to for the anti-torque 
arm). This would be the perfect all-rounder: room for up to 26"x60mm tires with 
fenders, and useable with derailers, but also as a singlespeed/fixed gear or 
with a Shimano or Rohloff internal hub. The best part is that HubbuH could be 
taken as "hubber", as in the first Rivendell that plays nicely with IGHs. Since 
the HubbuHubbuH uses two headbadges, this would only require one. It could be 
built using parts they have already used in the past, and it would give them a 
nicer alternative to the Breezer Uptown 8 that I otherwise recomend to anyone 
who will listen. 

I think I have given this too much thought, and written words, for that matter.

Daniel M
Berkeley, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-13 Thread Ron Mc

I like the cut on older MUSA, shorts, knickers, and especially the long 
pants.  I have 3 pair and live in them all winter - now they've made them 
for shorter people.  

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-13 Thread Mark Schneider

The Legolas, light merino wool tee's, and the nylon knickers would be my 
choices.

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 at 7:27:43 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Kinda sad that I missed out on what I believe was the "Golden Years" of 
> Rivendell products. Not saying that their products aren't Golden now. It's 
> just that I always end up finding Rivendell products on ebay that were sold 
> years before I even found the website.  With that these are things I wish 
> Rivendell sold still.
>
> Rivendell wool jersey! < Always feel like when I find one my size on 
> ebay they go for 4 !times the original price. I like pockets on my back I 
> feel for biking it's the easy accessible place to grab things. Also they 
> make for great places for hiding bananas 
>
> Aussie leather slipper wool socks << I had two pairs of these that were a 
> size too big for me but I would still regularly used on camping trips. I 
> loved them! But after a couple of washing the leather bottoms were done. 
> When I went back to try to get them
>
> Wool Uno pocket shirt<--- I remember seeing these on the website and 
> thinking how smart it was but never jumped on it because I was a poor 
> college student. Now Rapha sells one for like 80 dollars! I felt they were 
> a smart design that was way before their time. 
>
> Rivendell Brooks saddle? <-- I've seen these floating around the internet 
> from time to time. I thought it was a neat idea. 
>
> Anyone else have other things they wish Rivendell still sold?
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-13 Thread Steven Sweedler

I would like to third this idea. I was hoping the upcoming mtb would have a
26” wheel, but am told all too often its a dead end. Steve

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 11:41 AM S. Greco  wrote:

> +1 for All Rounder
>
> I would buy one today if it was available (as a standard non-custom priced
> frame)
>
> I really wish Riv would really add a 26" XO/All Rounder style ride into
> the lineup
>
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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-13 Thread S. Greco

+1 for All Rounder

I would buy one today if it was available (as a standard non-custom priced 
frame)

I really wish Riv would really add a 26" XO/All Rounder style ride into the 
lineup

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-13 Thread Curtis McKenzie

Lum Gim Fong,

Yes.  Those are the gloves.  Need size XXL.  If you know of a source..

Thanks,

Curtis

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 9:22 PM Lum Gim Fong  wrote:

> These?
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/clothing/products/thinny-riding-gloves-fake-leather-grey
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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-13 Thread blakcloud

The Betty Foy. 

I have a had a few women who have asked where they can buy that exact bike 
and I inform them they can't. I have had people ask if they can buy my 
wife's bike because they like it so much. Yes you can buy a close 
approximate with a custom but that is cost prohibitive. Bring back the 
*elegant* version of a step though frame. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-12 Thread Lum Gim Fong

These?
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/clothing/products/thinny-riding-gloves-fake-leather-grey

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-12 Thread Matt B.

Another one for the Half Mitts, the sherpa lined ones. Best 'bicycle' 
clothing I've ever had, especially for the price.


On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 2:00:11 AM UTC-5, Bob B wrote:
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> May be the only one but... MUSA Mitts!! Anyone got a NOS pair gathering 
> dust PM me. My trust much-loved pair is wearing thin!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-12 Thread Joe Bernard

Yes! I like those thinny gloves, too, and mine are near trashed. 

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-12 Thread The Snag

Baggins Hobo bag. Big fan. And the recent blue salmon shirt in Large.  


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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-12 Thread Curtis McKenzie

The thinny pad less gloves.  Have been looking elsewhere to mo avail.

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018, 9:09 AM sameness  The light grey nylon saddle cover.
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
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2018-11-12 Thread sameness

The light grey nylon saddle cover.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-12 Thread Kevin Lindsey



The All-Rounder.  It's what first turned me on to Rivendell back in the 
day, but at the time I couldn't begin to afford one.  Now I can, but 
they're nowhere to be found.
The Bleriot.  I've got one, and believe it's the best riding bike Riv has 
produced.  It's a pity they stopped making them.

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-11 Thread Joe Bernard

Bob, I have a pair somewhere I used maybe twice. I quickly discovered I'm too 
lazy to put gloves over gloves, so I just use those gardening-type things Riv 
sells for colder weather. I'll see if I can find them. 

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-11 Thread Bob B

May be the only one but... MUSA Mitts!! Anyone got a NOS pair gathering dust PM 
me. My trust much-loved pair is wearing thin!

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-11 Thread Doug H.

Carbon frames with race geometry. Skinny tires. Lycra. Made in China 
accessories. NOT!

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-11 Thread Joe Bernard

Six years later! 🙃

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2018-11-11 Thread bo richardson

i certainly miss my bridgestone jersey. Jack kimmes at Kulshan Cycles pushed me 
hard to buy one when they were on sale. Bless his heart.

But the other things I miss more than anything were the Riv/ibex no fly 
underpants. i would buy all of them i could afford today.

The reason Toyo is so highly valued is Grant made it such a strong case for 
them back in the day. We still believe him.
I have two, my ram and my Atlantis. love them both.

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-25 Thread Norman

I would be happier if Rivendell could still sell bikes with
Rivendellian/LOTR names (if they wanted to.)

On Sep 25, 3:46 pm, Peter Morgano  wrote:
> I have owned Rivendells from both Toyo and Waterford and cannot tell a
> difference, honestly. They were all beautiful with top notch
> craftsmanship.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Brewster Fong  wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:31:07 AM UTC-7, [email protected]:
>
> >> Rivendell framesets made by Toyo - price be damned:
>
> >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/**38991087@N05/4482258943/in/**photostream/
> >>http://www.handmadebikes.net/**toyo-framebuilding-dynasty.**html
>
> > Why? Is there something about Toyo that makes them better than say
> > Waterford or Riv's current custom builder - Mark Nobilette?!  Grant has
> > continued to say there isn't a difference.
>
> > I say why buy Japanese when you can get equivalent quality for *less
> > money* from a MUSA. Or am I missing something?!
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/waterfordbikes/
> >http://waterfordbikes.com/w/about/history/current-history/
>
> > Good Luck!
>
> >> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Brad Mitchell  wrote:
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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-25 Thread Brewster Fong


On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:31:07 AM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote: 
>
> Rivendell framesets made by Toyo - price be damned: 
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/38991087@N05/4482258943/in/photostream/ 
> http://www.handmadebikes.net/toyo-framebuilding-dynasty.html 
>
 
Why? Is there something about Toyo that makes them better than say 
Waterford or Riv's current custom builder - Mark Nobilette?!  Grant has 
continued to say there isn't a difference. 
 
I say why buy Japanese when you can get equivalent quality for *less money* 
from a MUSA. Or am I missing something?! 
 
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/waterfordbikes/
http://waterfordbikes.com/w/about/history/current-history/
 
Good Luck!
 

>  
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Brad Mitchell 
> > wrote:
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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-25 Thread William

LEGOLAS!

On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:31:07 AM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Rivendell framesets made by Toyo - price be damned:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/38991087@N05/4482258943/in/photostream/
> http://www.handmadebikes.net/toyo-framebuilding-dynasty.html 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Brad Mitchell 
> > wrote:
>
>> Really miss the seersucker and railroad shirts. If or when they come 
>> back, i'm definitely stocking up and buying a couple of each of them.. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-25 Thread steel lugs

Rivendell framesets made by Toyo - price be damned:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/38991087@N05/4482258943/in/photostream/
http://www.handmadebikes.net/toyo-framebuilding-dynasty.html





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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-25 Thread Bill Lucas

I would hope for a new Rambouillet.  Also, larger (~64cm) bicycles with 
single top tubes.

Bill Lucas
Watsonville, CA

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:27:43 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Kinda sad that I missed out on what I believe was the "Golden Years" of 
> Rivendell products. Not saying that their products aren't Golden now. It's 
> just that I always end up finding Rivendell products on ebay that were sold 
> years before I even found the website.  With that these are things I wish 
> Rivendell sold still.
>
> Rivendell wool jersey! < Always feel like when I find one my size on 
> ebay they go for 4 !times the original price. I like pockets on my back I 
> feel for biking it's the easy accessible place to grab things. Also they 
> make for great places for hiding bananas 
>
> Aussie leather slipper wool socks << I had two pairs of these that were a 
> size too big for me but I would still regularly used on camping trips. I 
> loved them! But after a couple of washing the leather bottoms were done. 
> When I went back to try to get them
>
> Wool Uno pocket shirt<--- I remember seeing these on the website and 
> thinking how smart it was but never jumped on it because I was a poor 
> college student. Now Rapha sells one for like 80 dollars! I felt they were 
> a smart design that was way before their time. 
>
> Rivendell Brooks saddle? <-- I've seen these floating around the internet 
> from time to time. I thought it was a neat idea. 
>
> Anyone else have other things they wish Rivendell still sold?
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-25 Thread Brad Mitchell

Really miss the seersucker and railroad shirts. If or when they come back, 
i'm definitely stocking up and buying a couple of each of them..

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-25 Thread Liesl


plaid seersucker shirts

Rivendell Riders Brooks B17

old school design Baggins saddle bags

cloisonne (how do your spell THAT?) fridge magnets

luscious all-wool grey monkey socks and low stripey socks that wore out in 
the heels and I don't even care; still wearing mine with holes

...and glad I have a Riv jersey
...and glad they brought back the sweater vest; have mine on this very 
moment

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-25 Thread Dave

This happens only because the OP said "Things I wish RBW STILL sold", 
and was probably intended to ruminate about beloved and bygone 
products.  A few people misread this as applying to products that are, 
in fact, still available, just not at RBW.



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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-25 Thread [email protected]

Those little coin holders with the bike badge logos on them.  I always 
wanted one with the Atlantis logo but I have an AHH one at least.

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2012-09-25 Thread Zack

to the person who mentioned paul component stuff, i think they can get it 
if you ask.

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-24 Thread Jeremy Till

Not to give a peek behind the curtain or anything, but the Nitto Dirt Drops 
(RM-013) are still in the Merry Sales (SOMA parent company/ Nitto importer) 
catalog so you can still get them.  Ask around your LBS'es to see if anyone 
has a Merry account, and they should be able to order them for you.  

I bet Riv dropped them mostly because they weren't big sellers and they 
needed the inventory capital elsewhere.  

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 2:15:21 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote:
>
> Yep. I will certainly add to the wool jersey wish list. Also the 
> seersucker shirts...mine has gotten more use than any other button up in 
> the closet. Every button has been replaced, it's been mended 4 times, lost 
> twice, and travelled 8 states. Still kicking myself for not buying 2.
>
> I'll add, although not a direct Rivendell product, the dirt drop nitto 
> bar. I know some resurfaced, but I missed those. I've never tried one or 
> even seen it in person, but have always been curious.
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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread jinxed

Yep. I will certainly add to the wool jersey wish list. Also the seersucker 
shirts...mine has gotten more use than any other button up in the closet. 
Every button has been replaced, it's been mended 4 times, lost twice, and 
travelled 8 states. Still kicking myself for not buying 2.

I'll add, although not a direct Rivendell product, the dirt drop nitto bar. 
I know some resurfaced, but I missed those. I've never tried one or even 
seen it in person, but have always been curious.

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread AD

56cm Quickbeams!  Everything and anything Paul, Phil & White Industries. My 
bike is the one splurge and I want to eventually put a Paul crank and seat post 
on my SO. I'd love to purchase them from Riv but will probably go to Bens or 
EBay when it's time to replace them. 

Something similar to Rapha's City line or Outlier would be nice too. 

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2012-09-23 Thread AD

56cm Quickbeams!  Everything and anything Paul, Phil & White Industries. My 
bike is the one splurge and I want to eventually put a Paul crank and seat post 
on my SO. I'd love to purchase them from Riv but will probably go to Bens or 
EBay when it's time to replace them. 

Something similar to Rapha's City line or Outlier would be nice too. 

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread C.J. Filip

Baggins Hobo handlebar bag.  Any bags in that line really.

Just had my local cobbler do major surgery on my BB Adam's/Kevin's(?)
trunk bag to keep it alive.

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread lukemcg

I consider my RBW cycling jersey an heirloom-worthy treasure.  Yesterday, I 
completed day one of the KC MS 150 on my Simpleone.  I received several 
compliments on the bike, but many more positive comments on the jersey.  I 
would happily buy another (or two).

Luke McGlynn

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread Tom Harrop

Me too! I was about to get one of the last pairs in my size on closeout, 
but they vanished while I was waiting for something else to come back into 
stock... I can't remember who I asked at Riv but they said they couldn't 
get the fabric any more.

On Saturday, 22 September 2012 17:49:55 UTC+2, Zack wrote:
>
> The Rain Pants.  I wish I had picked them up.  I was always like "I am not 
> sure about the orange."  
>
> After having spent a ton of time riding in the rain, orange is PERFECT. 
>  Deep regret on not picking them up.
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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread Matt Beebe

I wish they'd come out with a fat (maybe 700x38) version of the speedblends!

While I'm at it, something I don't believe they've sold yet in this 
particular branch of the multiverse:a steel, noodle bar, maybe dull 
brite, would be on at least one of my bikes right quick. NOT that the 
aluminum ones I have now are in any way problematic;  they aren't, but 
steel ones would be one and done, set and forget. 







On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:27:43 AM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Kinda sad that I missed out on what I believe was the "Golden Years" of 
> Rivendell products. Not saying that their products aren't Golden now. It's 
> just that I always end up finding Rivendell products on ebay that were sold 
> years before I even found the website.  With that these are things I wish 
> Rivendell sold still.
>
> Rivendell wool jersey! < Always feel like when I find one my size on 
> ebay they go for 4 !times the original price. I like pockets on my back I 
> feel for biking it's the easy accessible place to grab things. Also they 
> make for great places for hiding bananas 
>
> Aussie leather slipper wool socks << I had two pairs of these that were a 
> size too big for me but I would still regularly used on camping trips. I 
> loved them! But after a couple of washing the leather bottoms were done. 
> When I went back to try to get them
>
> Wool Uno pocket shirt<--- I remember seeing these on the website and 
> thinking how smart it was but never jumped on it because I was a poor 
> college student. Now Rapha sells one for like 80 dollars! I felt they were 
> a smart design that was way before their time. 
>
> Rivendell Brooks saddle? <-- I've seen these floating around the internet 
> from time to time. I thought it was a neat idea. 
>
> Anyone else have other things they wish Rivendell still sold?
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-22 Thread Peter Morgano

I would love a Jersey just to wear around, honestly. Oh and check out this
timely ebay listing
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nitto-Tubular-Tire-Cage-Folding-Tire-NOS-For-Your-Rivendell-Challenge-Rare-/120988347087?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2b77aacf

On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 7:00 PM, GeorgeS  wrote:

> The sear sucker shorts!
> GeorgeS
>
>
> On Saturday, September 22, 2012 12:50:17 PM UTC-5, BSWP wrote:
>>
>> QuickBeams!
>>
>> My Nitto race cages all came from RBW.
>>
>> Though I certainly understand why both are no longer carried.
>>
>> Very glad that front racks, Wald baskets, and ShopSacks are still carried.
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-22 Thread GeorgeS

The sear sucker shorts!
GeorgeS

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 12:50:17 PM UTC-5, BSWP wrote:
>
> QuickBeams!
>
> My Nitto race cages all came from RBW.
>
> Though I certainly understand why both are no longer carried.
>
> Very glad that front racks, Wald baskets, and ShopSacks are still carried.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-22 Thread BSWP

QuickBeams!

My Nitto race cages all came from RBW.

Though I certainly understand why both are no longer carried.

Very glad that front racks, Wald baskets, and ShopSacks are still carried.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-22 Thread Zack

The Rain Pants.  I wish I had picked them up.  I was always like "I am not 
sure about the orange."  

After having spent a ton of time riding in the rain, orange is PERFECT. 
 Deep regret on not picking them up.

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-22 Thread David Spranger

Bullmoose bars!

David 
Charlotte, NC

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:27:43 AM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Kinda sad that I missed out on what I believe was the "Golden Years" of 
> Rivendell products. Not saying that their products aren't Golden now. It's 
> just that I always end up finding Rivendell products on ebay that were sold 
> years before I even found the website.  With that these are things I wish 
> Rivendell sold still.
>
> Rivendell wool jersey! < Always feel like when I find one my size on 
> ebay they go for 4 !times the original price. I like pockets on my back I 
> feel for biking it's the easy accessible place to grab things. Also they 
> make for great places for hiding bananas 
>
> Aussie leather slipper wool socks << I had two pairs of these that were a 
> size too big for me but I would still regularly used on camping trips. I 
> loved them! But after a couple of washing the leather bottoms were done. 
> When I went back to try to get them
>
> Wool Uno pocket shirt<--- I remember seeing these on the website and 
> thinking how smart it was but never jumped on it because I was a poor 
> college student. Now Rapha sells one for like 80 dollars! I felt they were 
> a smart design that was way before their time. 
>
> Rivendell Brooks saddle? <-- I've seen these floating around the internet 
> from time to time. I thought it was a neat idea. 
>
> Anyone else have other things they wish Rivendell still sold?
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-22 Thread lungimsam


>
>  
> I wish they still sold Rambouillets.
> Also Silver Brakes.
>

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