Re: [RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-16 Thread samh
Wow!  Absolutely beautiful bike.  Thanks for posting.

On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 2:59:55 PM UTC-6, ttoshi wrote:

 Here's my AHH set up for the 600k, but I ended up using a medium acorn 
 saddlebag in the rear because I had ample drop bags for the ride (3 
 opportunities to get items).  If I had less access to drop bags, I probably 
 would have used the larger saddlebag.
  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/6988274342/in/photostream
  
 Toshi


  
 On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:41 PM, samh rbwo...@yahoo.com javascript:wrote:

 It sounds like you had a wonderful adventure.  One thing I am always 
 interested in is the bike setups you guys use for those long rides: bags, 
 racks, lights, etc.  Any more pics of how that Homer was equipped?

 Thanks for the pics.


  



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Re: [RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-13 Thread David Hays
Beautiful bike, Toshi.
My AHH frame arrived today and I'm starting to put it together.
What bars and stem are you running?
Are those Hetres tires with fenders? If so which fenders?
Thanks.
David


On Mar 12, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Tom Goodmann wrote:

 What a beauty!  Congratulations again on the achievement.
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here's my AHH set up for the 600k, but I ended up using a medium acorn 
 saddlebag in the rear because I had ample drop bags for the ride (3 
 opportunities to get items).  If I had less access to drop bags, I probably 
 would have used the larger saddlebag.
  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/6988274342/in/photostream
  
 Toshi
 
 
  
 On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:41 PM, samh rbwown...@yahoo.com wrote:
 It sounds like you had a wonderful adventure.  One thing I am always 
 interested in is the bike setups you guys use for those long rides: bags, 
 racks, lights, etc.  Any more pics of how that Homer was equipped?
 
 Thanks for the pics.
 
 
  
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-12 Thread René Sterental
Impressive feat, from where I sit tweaking my bikes and doing short
rides... Maybe one day I'll ride 40 miles again...


On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:48 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Bumming food is what bicycling is all about!


 On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Manuel Acosta 
 manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote:

 After a couple of rando events under my belt I now understand the major
 rule about any rando event.
 When it comes to the experience of the actually event in the end the
 mileage doesn't matter.
 One of my buddies when I first embarked on these types of ride told me
 something that stuck with me every time I do any type of these rides.
 Oh you're doing a rando event? Is that one of those races where the
 whole point is to have as much fun as you can?.
 Seriously the mileage is super negligible. Granted it's tough and if
 you're in for those kind of rides. Jump on it. But if you're not having fun
 what would be the point? Be it 600k or 10 miles?
 While I'm happy I got to finish the ride, I'm more than happy for the
 experience of riding to wonderful looking places with the company of
 amazing people, while bumming off their food.

 -Manny

 On Monday, March 11, 2013 1:40:25 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 Manny,
 Thanks for the info. I am not one that likes training.

 You seem like a daily, riding-for-fun, non-trainer also, so I was
 wondering how you prepared.

 I did a metric century and a 75 miler last year based in my 12 mile
 round trip commutes for training and it worked out fine, except my knees
 complained afterwards for a while.

 But beyond a 75 miler, I think I'd have to train. My handling got
 sloppier as I got tired.

  Congrats on such a big accomplishment! Are you going to do the next
 Rando series ride? What is it, like, 600k or something?

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[RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-12 Thread samh
It sounds like you had a wonderful adventure.  One thing I am always 
interested in is the bike setups you guys use for those long rides: bags, 
racks, lights, etc.  Any more pics of how that Homer was equipped?

Thanks for the pics.



On Sunday, March 10, 2013 9:35:25 PM UTC-6, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Good time riding to nowhere and back. Doing my first Populaire last year I 
 got to riding with Esteban who told me when nearing the end of his 300k and 
 there's a zen feeling with nothing around you in sheer darkness.  It was a 
 humbling opportunity to ride with so many strong and experience cyclists. 
 Some highlights.
 -Riding with miles of wildflowers.
 - Tagging along with Ian's group till River Rd. 
 - The beautiful rolling hills after Healdsburg.
 - Coastal tailwinds all the way to the Marshal Store. 
 - Riding with and talking to Jenny Oh about her aspirations in finishing a 
 Randonneur Series( good luck to her)


 Good sense of learning happened.
 -Always jump on the tandem train. They can take you to wonderful places 
 when you are hurting. 
 - Riding in sheer darkness on a quiet road by yourself is zen-like.
 - Jump in groups to break up the monotony of riding alone. 
 - Let groups go when you know your cooked.
 - Understand  the wonderful healing properties of Slim Jims.
 - You can and will get dropped by everyone riding anything. 
 - Bring extra everything. Food, clothes, gloves, lights, stories, smiles. 
 You know the essentials.
 - Getting stung by a bee sucks. Specially when you get stung near the 
 saddle area...

 Pictures Proved that it's pretty at nowhere:
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEhBB7R

 -Manny What there's no burrito place open at 11 at night? Acosta


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Re: [RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-11 Thread James Chang
Wow Manny.  You competed all 300K?  That's quite an achievement.  Looks
like a lovely ride.

James Chang

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Joe K kube...@aol.com wrote:

 Saw your pics.  I am envious.  All those miles of beautiful road and
 scenery.  (Speaking as a resident of NYC.)

 (I wouldn't call that nowhere.)

 Joe

 On Mar 10, 11:53 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
  Savage, bro.  Savage.

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[RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-11 Thread Mike
- Understand  the wonderful healing properties of Slim Jims.

I say the same thing about corn dogs.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/4468436719/

Looks like the ride to nowhere was fun. 

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[RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-11 Thread Manuel Acosta
@ Michael
Training? I don't think I really made an effort to plan my riding to make 
it liable for any training. My training varied from doing my commute to 
work twice a week to doing hard, fast and short rides over the weekend. But 
in terms of mileage don't think I did a ride longer then 60 miles this 
whole pass month. It did help that I started the series on time though.
If your interested in doing long rides to no where and back I highly 
suggest talking to a veteran about it. I'm still making it up as I go.
Hope this helps

On Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:43:37 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 How did you train for this, Manny?
  



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[RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-11 Thread Deacon Patrick
Congratulations, Manny! That sounds and looks like an epic ride!

Going long distance is a whole other beastie than the 40-60 mile range 
(distance can be deceptive, as terrain and road/trail conditions can make 
10 miles be like 40 on pavement). My longest ride on my Hunqa is 70 (so 
far) with 3 mountain passes and all of it above 10,000 feet (Great Divide 
Mountain Bike Trail, Indiana Pass et al near past Summit, CO). I've found 
that being fat burning rather than sugar burning makes it far more 
enjoyable and so that I do not rely on food I carry. In fact, I rarely eat 
on a ride any more and find it wonderfully freeing, not to mention a slew 
of other, more primary benefits of shifting my diet to high fat, low carb.

From your love of Slim Jims, it sounds like you may be in the fat burning 
camp?

With abandon,
Patrick



On Sunday, March 10, 2013 9:35:25 PM UTC-6, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Good time riding to nowhere and back. Doing my first Populaire last year I 
 got to riding with Esteban who told me when nearing the end of his 300k and 
 there's a zen feeling with nothing around you in sheer darkness.  It was a 
 humbling opportunity to ride with so many strong and experience cyclists. 
 Some highlights.
 -Riding with miles of wildflowers.
 - Tagging along with Ian's group till River Rd. 
 - The beautiful rolling hills after Healdsburg.
 - Coastal tailwinds all the way to the Marshal Store. 
 - Riding with and talking to Jenny Oh about her aspirations in finishing a 
 Randonneur Series( good luck to her)


 Good sense of learning happened.
 -Always jump on the tandem train. They can take you to wonderful places 
 when you are hurting. 
 - Riding in sheer darkness on a quiet road by yourself is zen-like.
 - Jump in groups to break up the monotony of riding alone. 
 - Let groups go when you know your cooked.
 - Understand  the wonderful healing properties of Slim Jims.
 - You can and will get dropped by everyone riding anything. 
 - Bring extra everything. Food, clothes, gloves, lights, stories, smiles. 
 You know the essentials.
 - Getting stung by a bee sucks. Specially when you get stung near the 
 saddle area...

 Pictures Proved that it's pretty at nowhere:
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEhBB7R

 -Manny What there's no burrito place open at 11 at night? Acosta


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[RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-11 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Passed along congrats in different online venues, but here's another one 
Manny!
Well ridden.  Well related.

Keep it rolling!

- Jim

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[RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-11 Thread Lynne Fitz
Beautiful pictures!  And congrats on finishing a 300k!

On Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:35:25 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Good time riding to nowhere and back. Doing my first Populaire last year I 
 got to riding with Esteban who told me when nearing the end of his 300k and 
 there's a zen feeling with nothing around you in sheer darkness.  It was a 
 humbling opportunity to ride with so many strong and experience cyclists. 
 Some highlights.
 -Riding with miles of wildflowers.
 - Tagging along with Ian's group till River Rd. 
 - The beautiful rolling hills after Healdsburg.
 - Coastal tailwinds all the way to the Marshal Store. 
 - Riding with and talking to Jenny Oh about her aspirations in finishing a 
 Randonneur Series( good luck to her)


 Good sense of learning happened.
 -Always jump on the tandem train. They can take you to wonderful places 
 when you are hurting. 
 - Riding in sheer darkness on a quiet road by yourself is zen-like.
 - Jump in groups to break up the monotony of riding alone. 
 - Let groups go when you know your cooked.
 - Understand  the wonderful healing properties of Slim Jims.
 - You can and will get dropped by everyone riding anything. 
 - Bring extra everything. Food, clothes, gloves, lights, stories, smiles. 
 You know the essentials.
 - Getting stung by a bee sucks. Specially when you get stung near the 
 saddle area...

 Pictures Proved that it's pretty at nowhere:
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEhBB7R

 -Manny What there's no burrito place open at 11 at night? Acosta


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[RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-11 Thread Michael
Manny,
Thanks for the info. I am not one that likes training.

You seem like a daily, riding-for-fun, non-trainer also, so I was wondering how 
you prepared.

I did a metric century and a 75 miler last year based in my 12 mile round trip 
commutes for training and it worked out fine, except my knees complained 
afterwards for a while.

But beyond a 75 miler, I think I'd have to train. My handling got sloppier as I 
got tired.

 Congrats on such a big accomplishment! Are you going to do the next Rando 
series ride? What is it, like, 600k or something?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-11 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I can say from experience that you don't need long training miles to finish
the ride if you have some good intensity in your training.  What you just
can't train for is to figure out what your body is going to say about the
food you are eating on the second day of a 600k. I got a little sour
stomach, and there's good suggestions for those who know this may be a
problem (pre-emptive Prilosec, eating bland foods, ginger candies, avoid
raspberry hammer gel--a definite for me!)

However, I won't know if any of this stuff helps until that next 600k,
because training doesn't substitute for the event...

--It may be crazy to do these rides that may make your body revolt, but I
gotta do PBP at least once in my lifetime!

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-11 Thread Deacon Patrick
I benefited greatly from applying Phil Maffetone's Maximum Aerobic 
Function (keep your heart rate at or below (180 - age = MAF). His Big 
Book of Endurance Training was very helpful. I now run up mountains far 
more easily because I have a solid aerobic base.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, March 11, 2013 6:03:17 PM UTC-6, ttoshi wrote:

 I can say from experience that you don't need long training miles to 
 finish the ride if you have some good intensity in your training.  What you 
 just can't train for is to figure out what your body is going to say about 
 the food you are eating on the second day of a 600k. I got a little sour 
 stomach, and there's good suggestions for those who know this may be a 
 problem (pre-emptive Prilosec, eating bland foods, ginger candies, avoid 
 raspberry hammer gel--a definite for me!)
  
 However, I won't know if any of this stuff helps until that next 600k, 
 because training doesn't substitute for the event...
  
 --It may be crazy to do these rides that may make your body revolt, but I 
 gotta do PBP at least once in my lifetime!
  
 Toshi
  
  


  



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[RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-11 Thread Tom Goodmann
Congratulations--and thanks for sharing your photos and the nuggets of 
wisdom gained in your quest!  Understand the wonderful healing properties 
of Slim Jims is my favorite, at a first pass. --Tom

On Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:35:25 PM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Good time riding to nowhere and back. Doing my first Populaire last year I 
 got to riding with Esteban who told me when nearing the end of his 300k and 
 there's a zen feeling with nothing around you in sheer darkness.  It was a 
 humbling opportunity to ride with so many strong and experience cyclists. 
 Some highlights.
 -Riding with miles of wildflowers.
 - Tagging along with Ian's group till River Rd. 
 - The beautiful rolling hills after Healdsburg.
 - Coastal tailwinds all the way to the Marshal Store. 
 - Riding with and talking to Jenny Oh about her aspirations in finishing a 
 Randonneur Series( good luck to her)


 Good sense of learning happened.
 -Always jump on the tandem train. They can take you to wonderful places 
 when you are hurting. 
 - Riding in sheer darkness on a quiet road by yourself is zen-like.
 - Jump in groups to break up the monotony of riding alone. 
 - Let groups go when you know your cooked.
 - Understand  the wonderful healing properties of Slim Jims.
 - You can and will get dropped by everyone riding anything. 
 - Bring extra everything. Food, clothes, gloves, lights, stories, smiles. 
 You know the essentials.
 - Getting stung by a bee sucks. Specially when you get stung near the 
 saddle area...

 Pictures Proved that it's pretty at nowhere:
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEhBB7R

 -Manny What there's no burrito place open at 11 at night? Acosta


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[RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-11 Thread Ely Rodriguez
Too funny.
Indeed, this is why I put a beef jerky outer sleeve on the left side of 
that little brevet bag I make. No joke.
And yes, I too have been dropped by everyone, on every type of bike.
Good job Manny,
Ely

On Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:35:25 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Good time riding to nowhere and back. Doing my first Populaire last year I 
 got to riding with Esteban who told me when nearing the end of his 300k and 
 there's a zen feeling with nothing around you in sheer darkness.  It was a 
 humbling opportunity to ride with so many strong and experience cyclists. 
 Some highlights.
 -Riding with miles of wildflowers.
 - Tagging along with Ian's group till River Rd. 
 - The beautiful rolling hills after Healdsburg.
 - Coastal tailwinds all the way to the Marshal Store. 
 - Riding with and talking to Jenny Oh about her aspirations in finishing a 
 Randonneur Series( good luck to her)


 Good sense of learning happened.
 -Always jump on the tandem train. They can take you to wonderful places 
 when you are hurting. 
 - Riding in sheer darkness on a quiet road by yourself is zen-like.
 - Jump in groups to break up the monotony of riding alone. 
 - Let groups go when you know your cooked.
 - Understand  the wonderful healing properties of Slim Jims.
 - You can and will get dropped by everyone riding anything. 
 - Bring extra everything. Food, clothes, gloves, lights, stories, smiles. 
 You know the essentials.
 - Getting stung by a bee sucks. Specially when you get stung near the 
 saddle area...

 Pictures Proved that it's pretty at nowhere:
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEhBB7R

 -Manny What there's no burrito place open at 11 at night? Acosta


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[RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-11 Thread Kellie Stapleton
Congrats!! I'm looking to do my first populaire later this year on my new 
Rivendell.

On Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:35:25 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Good time riding to nowhere and back. Doing my first Populaire last year I 
 got to riding with Esteban who told me when nearing the end of his 300k and 
 there's a zen feeling with nothing around you in sheer darkness.  It was a 
 humbling opportunity to ride with so many strong and experience cyclists. 
 Some highlights.
 -Riding with miles of wildflowers.
 - Tagging along with Ian's group till River Rd. 
 - The beautiful rolling hills after Healdsburg.
 - Coastal tailwinds all the way to the Marshal Store. 
 - Riding with and talking to Jenny Oh about her aspirations in finishing a 
 Randonneur Series( good luck to her)


 Good sense of learning happened.
 -Always jump on the tandem train. They can take you to wonderful places 
 when you are hurting. 
 - Riding in sheer darkness on a quiet road by yourself is zen-like.
 - Jump in groups to break up the monotony of riding alone. 
 - Let groups go when you know your cooked.
 - Understand  the wonderful healing properties of Slim Jims.
 - You can and will get dropped by everyone riding anything. 
 - Bring extra everything. Food, clothes, gloves, lights, stories, smiles. 
 You know the essentials.
 - Getting stung by a bee sucks. Specially when you get stung near the 
 saddle area...

 Pictures Proved that it's pretty at nowhere:
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEhBB7R

 -Manny What there's no burrito place open at 11 at night? Acosta


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[RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-11 Thread Manuel Acosta
After a couple of rando events under my belt I now understand the major 
rule about any rando event. 
When it comes to the experience of the actually event in the end the 
mileage doesn't matter. 
One of my buddies when I first embarked on these types of ride told me 
something that stuck with me every time I do any type of these rides.
Oh you're doing a rando event? Is that one of those races where the whole 
point is to have as much fun as you can?.
Seriously the mileage is super negligible. Granted it's tough and if you're 
in for those kind of rides. Jump on it. But if you're not having fun what 
would be the point? Be it 600k or 10 miles?
While I'm happy I got to finish the ride, I'm more than happy for the 
experience of riding to wonderful looking places with the company of 
amazing people, while bumming off their food.

-Manny

On Monday, March 11, 2013 1:40:25 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 Manny,
 Thanks for the info. I am not one that likes training.

 You seem like a daily, riding-for-fun, non-trainer also, so I was 
 wondering how you prepared.

 I did a metric century and a 75 miler last year based in my 12 mile round 
 trip commutes for training and it worked out fine, except my knees 
 complained afterwards for a while.

 But beyond a 75 miler, I think I'd have to train. My handling got sloppier 
 as I got tired.

  Congrats on such a big accomplishment! Are you going to do the next Rando 
 series ride? What is it, like, 600k or something?



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Re: [RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-11 Thread cyclotourist
Bumming food is what bicycling is all about!


On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 After a couple of rando events under my belt I now understand the major
 rule about any rando event.
 When it comes to the experience of the actually event in the end the
 mileage doesn't matter.
 One of my buddies when I first embarked on these types of ride told me
 something that stuck with me every time I do any type of these rides.
 Oh you're doing a rando event? Is that one of those races where the whole
 point is to have as much fun as you can?.
 Seriously the mileage is super negligible. Granted it's tough and if
 you're in for those kind of rides. Jump on it. But if you're not having fun
 what would be the point? Be it 600k or 10 miles?
 While I'm happy I got to finish the ride, I'm more than happy for the
 experience of riding to wonderful looking places with the company of
 amazing people, while bumming off their food.

 -Manny

 On Monday, March 11, 2013 1:40:25 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 Manny,
 Thanks for the info. I am not one that likes training.

 You seem like a daily, riding-for-fun, non-trainer also, so I was
 wondering how you prepared.

 I did a metric century and a 75 miler last year based in my 12 mile round
 trip commutes for training and it worked out fine, except my knees
 complained afterwards for a while.

 But beyond a 75 miler, I think I'd have to train. My handling got
 sloppier as I got tired.

  Congrats on such a big accomplishment! Are you going to do the next
 Rando series ride? What is it, like, 600k or something?

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[RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-10 Thread Michael


 How did you train for this, Manny?
  


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[RBW] Re: Understand your limitations.

2013-03-10 Thread Joe K
Saw your pics.  I am envious.  All those miles of beautiful road and
scenery.  (Speaking as a resident of NYC.)

(I wouldn't call that nowhere.)

Joe

On Mar 10, 11:53 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Savage, bro.  Savage.

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