[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-18 Thread ascpgh 
I'm using mitts from Outdoor Research (
http://www.outdoorresearch.com/en/accessories/gloves/mens-adrenaline-mitts-1.html
.

I thought I'd have to use liners, but inside the compartment my individual 
fingers are benefitted by the others' presence in the same enclosed and 
warmed air. If I had these in 1978, perhaps my fingers wouldn't have 
frostbitten and subsequently become so touchy about immersion and cold.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:44:01 PM UTC-5, Iron Rider wrote:
>
> I use Bar Mitts and simple gloves:
>
>
>
> On Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:58:41 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>>
>> Looking for gloves and thought I would see what you all use.
>>
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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-18 Thread Michael Hechmer 
I'm hoping to see 35 again some time.  Minus 18 yesterday morning; a balmy 
10 this morning.
Michael

On Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:58:41 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
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> Looking for gloves and thought I would see what you all use.
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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-12 Thread C.J. Filip 
I've had good luck with wool, full-finger, glove liners under wool mittens. 
 The mittens have a flap that exposes the fingers.  Cheap and effective but 
a little drafty when temps dip below 15F. 

On Saturday, November 23, 2013 11:58:41 AM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
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> Looking for gloves and thought I would see what you all use.
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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-12 Thread Patrick Moore 
Which ones?

Duraglove, Handskins, ET?

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-12 Thread Patrick Moore 
The reviews are favorable; this, for instance:
http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2012/01/grippy-and-wooly-my-favourite-style-of.html

I hear they run big. If I want a pair to, at times, fit into a slightly
oversized outer glove, should I go a size smaller than with other gloves?
(I am a small medium and generally buy gloves L in order to fit smaller
gloves inside.)

I see that the touch-screen-compatible model is not wool. Am I right in
believing that it is the wool models that are the warmest?


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Thanks. So, at 36F, 54* humidity, and 15 mph wind, they're warm? They are
> certainly reasonably priced.
>
> Evan: here:
>
>
> http://www.competitivecyclist.com/defeet-duraglove-et-gloves?CMP_SKU=DFT000N&MER=0406&CMP_ID=PLA_GOc014&mv_pc=r101&mr:trackingCode=EFB3A65F-BB3B-E311-BA35-001B21BCB944&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=pla&mr:ad=35188718625&mr:keyword=&mr:match=&mr:filter=47555295465&mkwid=sHxQfeBQr_dc|pcrid|35188718625&origin=pla&gclid=CIT6zqXlq7sCFepaMgodNUQArQ
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:
>
>> +1 on the Defeet gloves. I picked up a pair in a bargain bin somewhere,
>> and they've become my go-to gloves for temps into the low 30s. Because
>> they're wool, they also work better in damp or wet conditions than my other
>> gloves.
>>
>> Eric N
>> www.CampyOnly.com
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>> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>
>> On Dec 12, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Evan Baird  wrote:
>>
>> Dan Boxer turned me on to the Defeet wool gloves. I like them better than
>> the Ibex, which i've found don't hold up too well, plus made in USA. I was
>> heartbroken when Salsa killed off their lobster gloves, but now it seems a
>> lot of folks are making them. I just wish I could get the Defeet with touch
>> screen fingers. Tried ordering some from Pakistan, but they were garbage.
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:07:06 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks. I wish I hadn't sold my two pairs of wool mittens, respectively
>>> ragg and boiled. Must look for more ...
>>> For some reason, I *do* have leather over-mittens -- odd.
>>>
>>> Please post pics of New Zealand.
>>>
>>> (Question: which is odder to American ears: the NZ accent or the South
>>> African (English) accent? I had a SA client not too long ago and her accent
>>> was -- to my small mind -- distinctly entertaining in a pleasant and not
>>> belittling way.)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Liesl  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Patrick,

 For cold weather, for me, mittens over gloves every time unless you're
 driving a car.  The only trouble I have biking with mittens is wedging my
 wool/leather choppers between the bar and cables on the
 forward-of-the-grips position on the Boscoes, and that is just not a big
 deal.  And I'm with Deacon Patrick on the value of army surplus wool mitts;
 one of my fav pairs is double wool with a wool palm and thumb.  great by
 itself at about 25 to 40 depending on conditions.

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-12 Thread Patrick Moore 
Thanks. So, at 36F, 54* humidity, and 15 mph wind, they're warm? They are
certainly reasonably priced.

Evan: here:

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/defeet-duraglove-et-gloves?CMP_SKU=DFT000N&MER=0406&CMP_ID=PLA_GOc014&mv_pc=r101&mr:trackingCode=EFB3A65F-BB3B-E311-BA35-001B21BCB944&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=pla&mr:ad=35188718625&mr:keyword=&mr:match=&mr:filter=47555295465&mkwid=sHxQfeBQr_dc|pcrid|35188718625&origin=pla&gclid=CIT6zqXlq7sCFepaMgodNUQArQ


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:

> +1 on the Defeet gloves. I picked up a pair in a bargain bin somewhere,
> and they've become my go-to gloves for temps into the low 30s. Because
> they're wool, they also work better in damp or wet conditions than my other
> gloves.
>
> Eric N
> www.CampyOnly.com
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>
> On Dec 12, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Evan Baird  wrote:
>
> Dan Boxer turned me on to the Defeet wool gloves. I like them better than
> the Ibex, which i've found don't hold up too well, plus made in USA. I was
> heartbroken when Salsa killed off their lobster gloves, but now it seems a
> lot of folks are making them. I just wish I could get the Defeet with touch
> screen fingers. Tried ordering some from Pakistan, but they were garbage.
>
> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:07:06 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. I wish I hadn't sold my two pairs of wool mittens, respectively
>> ragg and boiled. Must look for more ...
>> For some reason, I *do* have leather over-mittens -- odd.
>>
>> Please post pics of New Zealand.
>>
>> (Question: which is odder to American ears: the NZ accent or the South
>> African (English) accent? I had a SA client not too long ago and her accent
>> was -- to my small mind -- distinctly entertaining in a pleasant and not
>> belittling way.)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Liesl  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>
>>> For cold weather, for me, mittens over gloves every time unless you're
>>> driving a car.  The only trouble I have biking with mittens is wedging my
>>> wool/leather choppers between the bar and cables on the
>>> forward-of-the-grips position on the Boscoes, and that is just not a big
>>> deal.  And I'm with Deacon Patrick on the value of army surplus wool mitts;
>>> one of my fav pairs is double wool with a wool palm and thumb.  great by
>>> itself at about 25 to 40 depending on conditions.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-12 Thread Eric Norris 
+1 on the Defeet gloves. I picked up a pair in a bargain bin somewhere, and 
they've become my go-to gloves for temps into the low 30s. Because they're 
wool, they also work better in damp or wet conditions than my other gloves.

Eric N
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CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

> On Dec 12, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Evan Baird  wrote:
> 
> Dan Boxer turned me on to the Defeet wool gloves. I like them better than the 
> Ibex, which i've found don't hold up too well, plus made in USA. I was 
> heartbroken when Salsa killed off their lobster gloves, but now it seems a 
> lot of folks are making them. I just wish I could get the Defeet with touch 
> screen fingers. Tried ordering some from Pakistan, but they were garbage.
> 
>> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:07:06 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>> Thanks. I wish I hadn't sold my two pairs of wool mittens, respectively ragg 
>> and boiled. Must look for more ...
>> For some reason, I *do* have leather over-mittens -- odd.
>> 
>> Please post pics of New Zealand.
>> 
>> (Question: which is odder to American ears: the NZ accent or the South 
>> African (English) accent? I had a SA client not too long ago and her accent 
>> was -- to my small mind -- distinctly entertaining in a pleasant and not 
>> belittling way.)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Liesl  wrote:
>>> Hi Patrick,
>>> 
>>> For cold weather, for me, mittens over gloves every time unless you're 
>>> driving a car.  The only trouble I have biking with mittens is wedging my 
>>> wool/leather choppers between the bar and cables on the 
>>> forward-of-the-grips position on the Boscoes, and that is just not a big 
>>> deal.  And I'm with Deacon Patrick on the value of army surplus wool mitts; 
>>> one of my fav pairs is double wool with a wool palm and thumb.  great by 
>>> itself at about 25 to 40 depending on conditions.
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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-12 Thread Patrick Moore 
This just in: the S Tr Post plastic fuzz-lined gloves arrived today. Quite
nice, but they run at least a size small. Back they go.

Will look at large leather work gloves as uber-gloves.


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Evan Baird  wrote:

> Dan Boxer turned me on to the Defeet wool gloves. I like them better than
> the Ibex, which i've found don't hold up too well, plus made in USA. I was
> heartbroken when Salsa killed off their lobster gloves, but now it seems a
> lot of folks are making them. I just wish I could get the Defeet with touch
> screen fingers. Tried ordering some from Pakistan, but they were garbage.
>
> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:07:06 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. I wish I hadn't sold my two pairs of wool mittens, respectively
>> ragg and boiled. Must look for more ...
>> For some reason, I *do* have leather over-mittens -- odd.
>>
>> Please post pics of New Zealand.
>>
>> (Question: which is odder to American ears: the NZ accent or the South
>> African (English) accent? I had a SA client not too long ago and her accent
>> was -- to my small mind -- distinctly entertaining in a pleasant and not
>> belittling way.)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Liesl  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>
>>> For cold weather, for me, mittens over gloves every time unless you're
>>> driving a car.  The only trouble I have biking with mittens is wedging my
>>> wool/leather choppers between the bar and cables on the
>>> forward-of-the-grips position on the Boscoes, and that is just not a big
>>> deal.  And I'm with Deacon Patrick on the value of army surplus wool mitts;
>>> one of my fav pairs is double wool with a wool palm and thumb.  great by
>>> itself at about 25 to 40 depending on conditions.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-12 Thread Evan Baird 
Dan Boxer turned me on to the Defeet wool gloves. I like them better than 
the Ibex, which i've found don't hold up too well, plus made in USA. I was 
heartbroken when Salsa killed off their lobster gloves, but now it seems a 
lot of folks are making them. I just wish I could get the Defeet with touch 
screen fingers. Tried ordering some from Pakistan, but they were garbage.

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:07:06 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thanks. I wish I hadn't sold my two pairs of wool mittens, respectively 
> ragg and boiled. Must look for more ...
> For some reason, I *do* have leather over-mittens -- odd.
>
> Please post pics of New Zealand.
>
> (Question: which is odder to American ears: the NZ accent or the South 
> African (English) accent? I had a SA client not too long ago and her accent 
> was -- to my small mind -- distinctly entertaining in a pleasant and not 
> belittling way.)
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Liesl >wrote:
>
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> For cold weather, for me, mittens over gloves every time unless you're 
>> driving a car.  The only trouble I have biking with mittens is wedging my 
>> wool/leather choppers between the bar and cables on the 
>> forward-of-the-grips position on the Boscoes, and that is just not a big 
>> deal.  And I'm with Deacon Patrick on the value of army surplus wool mitts; 
>> one of my fav pairs is double wool with a wool palm and thumb.  great by 
>> itself at about 25 to 40 depending on conditions.
>>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-11 Thread Patrick Moore 
Thanks. I wish I hadn't sold my two pairs of wool mittens, respectively
ragg and boiled. Must look for more ...
For some reason, I *do* have leather over-mittens -- odd.

Please post pics of New Zealand.

(Question: which is odder to American ears: the NZ accent or the South
African (English) accent? I had a SA client not too long ago and her accent
was -- to my small mind -- distinctly entertaining in a pleasant and not
belittling way.)


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Liesl  wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
>
> For cold weather, for me, mittens over gloves every time unless you're
> driving a car.  The only trouble I have biking with mittens is wedging my
> wool/leather choppers between the bar and cables on the
> forward-of-the-grips position on the Boscoes, and that is just not a big
> deal.  And I'm with Deacon Patrick on the value of army surplus wool mitts;
> one of my fav pairs is double wool with a wool palm and thumb.  great by
> itself at about 25 to 40 depending on conditions.
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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-11 Thread Patrick Moore 
Thanks. I'm thinking that, perhaps, cheap Polartec gloves under the (not
yet arrived as of today) S T Post leather gloves will be the ticket. But it
is actually warming up!

(9*F low in ABQ a few days ago.)


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> Chances are you're fine for down there in ABQ with glove layers. I reserve
> the mittens for below 5-10 degrees. In case it helps, my hands get colder
> on the bike than they do when I am running in the exact same conditions (as
> in I bike to the trail head, run, bike back). My hands need more warmth on
> the bike, I presume due to constriction from grip.
>
> The danger with canvas at your likely temps is if it is wet snow, then the
> canvas will absorb moisture and you are worse off with them on. You may be
> better with a leather outer glove (what I do for gloves).
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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-11 Thread Liesl 
Hi Patrick,

For cold weather, for me, mittens over gloves every time unless you're 
driving a car.  The only trouble I have biking with mittens is wedging my 
wool/leather choppers between the bar and cables on the 
forward-of-the-grips position on the Boscoes, and that is just not a big 
deal.  And I'm with Deacon Patrick on the value of army surplus wool mitts; 
one of my fav pairs is double wool with a wool palm and thumb.  great by 
itself at about 25 to 40 depending on conditions.

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-11 Thread Deacon Patrick 
Chances are you're fine for down there in ABQ with glove layers. I reserve 
the mittens for below 5-10 degrees. In case it helps, my hands get colder 
on the bike than they do when I am running in the exact same conditions (as 
in I bike to the trail head, run, bike back). My hands need more warmth on 
the bike, I presume due to constriction from grip.

The danger with canvas at your likely temps is if it is wet snow, then the 
canvas will absorb moisture and you are worse off with them on. You may be 
better with a leather outer glove (what I do for gloves).

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:33:30 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> You cold-land-ers: how would wool gloves inside canvas gloves compare to 
> wool mittens inside canvas mittens? Any idea? I find mittens rather 
> cumbersome (even though I generally don't have shift levers to mess with).
>
> Today: Sugoi med weight cycling gloves (very nice 'cuz they have a 
> velcro'd wrist closure that allows you to get them on over liners and also 
> makes them so much easier to get on than the similar but elastic-cuffed P 
> Izumis I also have) inside cheap Polartec gloves. But it was about 35F and 
> there wan't no wind. I daresay that the Polartecs under bigger leather 
> gloves would be even better -- have some cheap (Sierra TP) leather dress 
> gloves en route.
>
> Oh: I have small-to-med hands, buy Large cycling gloves for extra finger 
> room and buy XL overall gloves.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Deacon Patrick 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> In the meantime, wool mittens and army canvas shooting gloves are rather 
>> remarkable.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 11:50:10 AM UTC-7, Rod Holland wrote:
>>>
>>> For temperatures below 20degF, I wear Empire Wool & Canvas ICEBIKE 
>>> Mittens. Cozy on a monumental scale, made in Duluth, where they know from 
>>> cold. This link tells the tale, including the fact that they're skipping a 
>>> production year (I expect they'll be back next year). 
>>> http://www.empirecanvasworks.com/icebikemittens.htm
>>>
>>> rod
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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-11 Thread Patrick Moore 
You cold-land-ers: how would wool gloves inside canvas gloves compare to
wool mittens inside canvas mittens? Any idea? I find mittens rather
cumbersome (even though I generally don't have shift levers to mess with).

Today: Sugoi med weight cycling gloves (very nice 'cuz they have a velcro'd
wrist closure that allows you to get them on over liners and also makes
them so much easier to get on than the similar but elastic-cuffed P Izumis
I also have) inside cheap Polartec gloves. But it was about 35F and there
wan't no wind. I daresay that the Polartecs under bigger leather gloves
would be even better -- have some cheap (Sierra TP) leather dress gloves en
route.

Oh: I have small-to-med hands, buy Large cycling gloves for extra finger
room and buy XL overall gloves.




On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> In the meantime, wool mittens and army canvas shooting gloves are rather
> remarkable.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 11:50:10 AM UTC-7, Rod Holland wrote:
>>
>> For temperatures below 20degF, I wear Empire Wool & Canvas ICEBIKE
>> Mittens. Cozy on a monumental scale, made in Duluth, where they know from
>> cold. This link tells the tale, including the fact that they're skipping a
>> production year (I expect they'll be back next year).
>> http://www.empirecanvasworks.com/icebikemittens.htm
>>
>> rod
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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-11 Thread Deacon Patrick 
In the meantime, wool mittens and army canvas shooting gloves are rather 
remarkable.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 11:50:10 AM UTC-7, Rod Holland wrote:
>
> For temperatures below 20degF, I wear Empire Wool & Canvas ICEBIKE 
> Mittens. Cozy on a monumental scale, made in Duluth, where they know from 
> cold. This link tells the tale, including the fact that they're skipping a 
> production year (I expect they'll be back next year). 
> http://www.empirecanvasworks.com/icebikemittens.htm
>
> rod
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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-11 Thread Christopher Chen 
A friend has recently started sewing gauntlets for handlebars, with velcro
so you can easily apply/remove them from your hoods/bars. They work great.
http://bikemitts.com/


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Speaking of Polar Expititions (Winnie the Pooh reference):
> http://scottexpedition.com (They are a month and a half in to a
> self-contained human powered sledge to the South Pole), and just got off
> Beardmore Glacier.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:35:21 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
>>
>> Here in Minnesota, good old fashioned unlined leather chopper mitts with
>> wool mitten liners.  I fashioned a mitten leash out of lampwick
>> Antarctic-explorer style (e.g. http://www.viaggipolari.it/
>> ernest-shackleton-2/),  It's excellent because I can take the mitts off
>> and not have to hold them.  Helpful at stop lights, etc, and sometimes I
>> just slip them off for a few minutes if I get too warm; cools my whole
>> body.  While cotton lampwick is the traditional material, it is hard to
>> find in bulk. You could make a leash out of nylon webbing, leather, rope,
>> etc.  The cross-brace (see photo on site) just needs to be able to slide.
>> And then just tack a bar on to the cuff of each mitt, much like a light
>> blinky bar/tab, and loop the leash through each mitt.  Use buckles, snaps,
>> whatever your fancy as a way to remove the leash from the mitt or to adjust
>> the length of the leash.  To size, make sure the leash is slightly longer
>> than finger-tip to finger-tip with arms out straight to the sides
>> (wingspan)  Plus you can hang 'em up on a hook; it's a total mitten-loss
>> protection system!
>>
>> cheers,
>> liesl
>> and it's wicked cold here today
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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-11 Thread Deacon Patrick 
Speaking of Polar Expititions (Winnie the Pooh reference): 
http://scottexpedition.com (They are a month and a half in to a 
self-contained human powered sledge to the South Pole), and just got off 
Beardmore Glacier.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:35:21 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
>
> Here in Minnesota, good old fashioned unlined leather chopper mitts with 
> wool mitten liners.  I fashioned a mitten leash out of lampwick 
> Antarctic-explorer style (e.g. 
> http://www.viaggipolari.it/ernest-shackleton-2/),  It's excellent because 
> I can take the mitts off and not have to hold them.  Helpful at stop 
> lights, etc, and sometimes I just slip them off for a few minutes if I get 
> too warm; cools my whole body.  While cotton lampwick is the traditional 
> material, it is hard to find in bulk. You could make a leash out of nylon 
> webbing, leather, rope, etc.  The cross-brace (see photo on site) just 
> needs to be able to slide.  And then just tack a bar on to the cuff of each 
> mitt, much like a light blinky bar/tab, and loop the leash through each 
> mitt.  Use buckles, snaps, whatever your fancy as a way to remove the leash 
> from the mitt or to adjust the length of the leash.  To size, make sure the 
> leash is slightly longer than finger-tip to finger-tip with arms out 
> straight to the sides (wingspan)  Plus you can hang 'em up on a hook; it's 
> a total mitten-loss protection system!
>
> cheers,
> liesl
> and it's wicked cold here today
>

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-11 Thread Liesl 
Here in Minnesota, good old fashioned unlined leather chopper mitts with 
wool mitten liners.  I fashioned a mitten leash out of lampwick 
Antarctic-explorer style (e.g. 
http://www.viaggipolari.it/ernest-shackleton-2/),  It's excellent because I 
can take the mitts off and not have to hold them.  Helpful at stop lights, 
etc, and sometimes I just slip them off for a few minutes if I get too 
warm; cools my whole body.  While cotton lampwick is the traditional 
material, it is hard to find in bulk. You could make a leash out of nylon 
webbing, leather, rope, etc.  The cross-brace (see photo on site) just 
needs to be able to slide.  And then just tack a bar on to the cuff of each 
mitt, much like a light blinky bar/tab, and loop the leash through each 
mitt.  Use buckles, snaps, whatever your fancy as a way to remove the leash 
from the mitt or to adjust the length of the leash.  To size, make sure the 
leash is slightly longer than finger-tip to finger-tip with arms out 
straight to the sides (wingspan)  Plus you can hang 'em up on a hook; it's 
a total mitten-loss protection system!

cheers,
liesl
and it's wicked cold here today

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-12-11 Thread Marc Irwin 
I use these hunter's 
mittensI found 
at Gander Mountain.


They are really warm and help with the visibility during snow storms.
Marc

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-11-25 Thread ascpgh 
My fingers get cold fast so at 35°, depending on wind and precipitation, 
I'm heading to mitts. My all-around favorites are a pair from Outdoor 
Research that I find useful beyond their apparent insulation. When really 
cold, <20°F,  the pair I wear is an original PI Lobster claw, the really 
puffed insulation ones with a higher gauntlet than the subsequent ones. 
Nice, roomy, well insulated loft on the backs, articulated construction so 
I don't waste energy closing my hands against "built flat" construction 
just to lightly touch the bars and thin but effective insulation on the 
palm side. 

Overkill perhaps, but fingers frostbitten once in my youth always let me 
know to do better. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-11-24 Thread Howard 
x2 on Lobster gloves. I have an old pair (bought at REI around 1995) and 
usually wear them whenever the temp is below 45 F. The coldest was during a 
commute last winter, temps were in the mid-20s and they still worked pretty 
well.

On Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:31:58 PM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>
> I have a pair of Pearl Izumi Lobster gloves that work well when its cold. 
> The cross between gloves and mittens is nice. When I was in SE Mich. they 
> were really good. Since I have been in the SF bay area I virtually never 
> use them.
>
> On Saturday, November 23, 2013 11:58:41 AM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
>>
>> Looking for gloves and thought I would see what you all use.
>>
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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-11-24 Thread IanA 
Gets pretty cold up here, with wind chill just in the last week it was -28 
Celsius (minus 18F) on my six mile snow laden commute to work,  I have some 
mitts very similar to these 
http://outdoorjay.blogspot.ca/2013/02/mec-logan-mitts-review.html with 
removable fleece inners and the leather outers.  I sometimes have to bunch 
my thumb and fingers together inside the mitts until I get a bit warmed up, 
but these mitts have been amazing for warmth. I would think any high 
quality ski mitts would work well.  I have the inline/interrupter levers 
and 46cm Noodle bars and find that it's easy to brake with the 
interrupters/mitts combo, but the drop levers are more of a challenge with 
mitts on.  

The low pressure system that brought us an early winter has thankfully 
passed through and we're back into 0 degree (32F) weather give or take for 
a few days.  The studded tires won't e off until April, probably.  A long 
winter ahead.

Ian A
Edmonton AB Canada

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-11-23 Thread Matt Beebe 
mittens!trigger mittens work well too for brakes etc.   but yeah, 
mittens.   I'll oftentimes put multiple layers of mittens on depending on 
how cold it is.


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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-11-23 Thread Joe K 
I dunno, they're just heavily lined gloves with long extensions that keep 
wind from blowing up your sleeve.  I didn't even buy them...got them as a 
trade for gloves lost, at the ferry lost & found.

Not bike-specific gloves.  I don't think winter gloves have to be bike 
specific...at least not for utility riding.

I've got a pair of ski mittens if it gets super cold.  Bought 'em in 
Vermont years ago.

Joe

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-11-23 Thread ted 
I have a pair of Pearl Izumi Lobster gloves that work well when its cold. 
The cross between gloves and mittens is nice. When I was in SE Mich. they 
were really good. Since I have been in the SF bay area I virtually never 
use them.

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

2013-11-23 Thread Deacon Patrick 
Merino wool gloves under Filson goatskin gloves. But I don't usually need 
them until 25˚F. At temps below 5-10˚F I add a leather/canvas shell mitt.

With abandon,
Patrick

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