[RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-24 Thread Michael Hechmer
Patrick, I have had a number of Mavic rims in my life and have gotten good 
service from all of them. ( The Ebisu I just sold has a front wheel of 
Campy NR & Mavic MA 40 which are ancient and going strong.) I have two sets 
of wheels with Open Pro rims one set is 36/32 and the other 32/28 and they 
have both held up very well for many years under general road riding, 
including lots of bad roads and dirt roads.  I have not tried to use them 
for loaded touring but it doesn't sound like that's your plan.  As for any 
decline in quality, I would talk to a professional wheel builder.  These 
guys can often spot a poorly made rim while building.

I think for the use you are talking about Phil Wood are over built, heavy, 
and expensive. Great for touring but overkill on day trips.  I have a pair 
of Open Pro on White Ind. Hubs - lighter, $100 cheaper, and a very well 
made hub.  Some people say they are noisy, but that is mostly in the shop. 
 Above 12 mph the coasting noise is a barely audible hum.

Michael

On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:02:55 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Two questions: First, I want to sell the skinny wheelset for the Fargo: 
> Bike shop built Sun Rhyno Lite rims with 32 14 g spokes laced to (rear) 
> black SRAM 8//9/10 Shimano compatible disk cassette hub with Avid BB7 160 
> mm rotor (not bent!), no cassette; front ditto to Shimano DH 3DN72 set up 
> with Avid rotor as above using Problem Solver's converter (ie, from splined 
> to 6 bolt). Plus pair of moderately used Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks and two 
> pairs of 28-35 mm tubes. Wheels have no more than 1,200 miles on them as 
> they shared Fargo duty with the SnoCat wheelset.
>
> I see Rhyno Lite wheelsets on sale for as little as $150 (26"). What's a 
> fair price for this one?
>
> Second: I want a nice silver wheelset for the Ram. The ideal would have 
> sporty-ish rim like an Open Pro, rear 36 and front 32, 14/15 butted spokes, 
> hubs at least 105 level. Best would be a 7 speed wheelset that I could 
> respace to 132.5 But 32/32 or 36/36 and 7 or 8/9/10 are fine. 
>
> 2a. What are my options for similar rim/hub combos? I mean, what other 
> rims are comparable to the Open Pro? I want something sturdy, sub 500 gram, 
> silver, good reputation. I've used Sun rims like the M14A and the ME14A and 
> they are inexpensive, light, and apparently bullet proof. A semi aero 
> profile is fine. Would prefer something as wide as the Open Pro. As to 
> hubs, as long as they are at Hyperglide, the bearings are decent and they 
> are silver or, at least, not ugly, I'm not particular.
> 2b. What are the best sources for such wheels -- quality, customer 
> service, price, in that order?
> 2c. Does anyone have something like that to trade or sell?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-19 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Clyde -- generally speaking, very good advice, to have a good bike shop
build your wheels. That is my usual practice. But money is short and I am
trying to get the Ram fully built with parts that I myself own (the wheels
on it presently belong to my brother). We'll see about building my own: wil
probably have to build at least the front, as the wheelset I was offered
includes only a front rim.

Best, PAM

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-19 Thread clyde canter
Sorry all, didn't read all the posts. Looks like this turned into an
encouragement for the OP to build his own wheels.  I chimed in on my
experiences involving the cost of  paying someone to hand build a wheel, vs
the cost of machine built ones.  This has been a looong day.
Good luck Patrick


On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 2:29 PM, clyde canter wrote:

> I've found the extra few bucks to get a good wheel builder to build a
> wheel for you is money well spent.  The  Handspun wheels are good, don't
> get me wrong, but the cost to pay a good builder to hand build one is not
> all that much more.  It's been my experience that the cost of ordering one
> machine built and having a mechanic tweak if for me ends up costing as much
> as it would to just have a good builder build me one from scratch.  Again
> don't get me wrong the Handspun wheels I've seen are very good, but for
> just a little more a hand built one is better.  My opinion at least.
> Best,
> Clyde Canter
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Leslie  wrote:
>
>> For a rim, I would suggest considering Velocity's A23 rim:
>> http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=746
>>
>> (I have them in 650b, and really like them, built my first wheelset on
>> those rims.)
>>
>>
>> Jim Thill, Rich Lesnik, Anthony at Longleaf, Peter White... all would
>> build you a good wheel set.. not, a GREAT wheel set.I have two
>> wheelsets that Rich built me before I started building my own, his are
>> perfect; Peter has a stellar reputation;  Anthony is who I got my 650b A23
>> rims from; and Jim is just an all-round great fella, can-do whatever it is
>> you need..
>>
>> But you work at a shop now, right?  Just thinkin'  Build your own
>> wheelset?   I queued up numerous videos on youtube, read Jobst Brandt's
>> book, used my HoH wheels as a guide, and had at it...  they're functioning
>> very well for me.   I picked the hubs I wanted, picked the rims, picked the
>> spokes, and did it myself...   learned a lot, and can now tune up my
>> family's wheels as needed now
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-19 Thread clyde canter
I've found the extra few bucks to get a good wheel builder to build a wheel
for you is money well spent.  The  Handspun wheels are good, don't get me
wrong, but the cost to pay a good builder to hand build one is not all that
much more.  It's been my experience that the cost of ordering one machine
built and having a mechanic tweak if for me ends up costing as much as it
would to just have a good builder build me one from scratch.  Again don't
get me wrong the Handspun wheels I've seen are very good, but for just a
little more a hand built one is better.  My opinion at least.
Best,
Clyde Canter


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Leslie  wrote:

> For a rim, I would suggest considering Velocity's A23 rim:
> http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=746
>
> (I have them in 650b, and really like them, built my first wheelset on
> those rims.)
>
>
> Jim Thill, Rich Lesnik, Anthony at Longleaf, Peter White... all would
> build you a good wheel set.. not, a GREAT wheel set.I have two
> wheelsets that Rich built me before I started building my own, his are
> perfect; Peter has a stellar reputation;  Anthony is who I got my 650b A23
> rims from; and Jim is just an all-round great fella, can-do whatever it is
> you need..
>
> But you work at a shop now, right?  Just thinkin'  Build your own
> wheelset?   I queued up numerous videos on youtube, read Jobst Brandt's
> book, used my HoH wheels as a guide, and had at it...  they're functioning
> very well for me.   I picked the hubs I wanted, picked the rims, picked the
> spokes, and did it myself...   learned a lot, and can now tune up my
> family's wheels as needed now
>
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[RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-17 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
The bike shop in Bath, Maine that built my Sam for me did a great job 
building the wheels.
Synergy rims, XT hubs, 36 14/15 spokes front and back, hand built by them. 
Their prices were surprisingly reasonable and I have had no issues going on 
3 years of almost daily use.
They are on the web as bikeman.com. The site doesn't look very Rivish, but 
it is a real shop and they treated me extremely well.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.


On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:02:55 AM UTC+3, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Two questions: First, I want to sell the skinny wheelset for the Fargo: 
> Bike shop built Sun Rhyno Lite rims with 32 14 g spokes laced to (rear) 
> black SRAM 8//9/10 Shimano compatible disk cassette hub with Avid BB7 160 
> mm rotor (not bent!), no cassette; front ditto to Shimano DH 3DN72 set up 
> with Avid rotor as above using Problem Solver's converter (ie, from splined 
> to 6 bolt). Plus pair of moderately used Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks and two 
> pairs of 28-35 mm tubes. Wheels have no more than 1,200 miles on them as 
> they shared Fargo duty with the SnoCat wheelset.
>
> I see Rhyno Lite wheelsets on sale for as little as $150 (26"). What's a 
> fair price for this one?
>
> Second: I want a nice silver wheelset for the Ram. The ideal would have 
> sporty-ish rim like an Open Pro, rear 36 and front 32, 14/15 butted spokes, 
> hubs at least 105 level. Best would be a 7 speed wheelset that I could 
> respace to 132.5 But 32/32 or 36/36 and 7 or 8/9/10 are fine. 
>
> 2a. What are my options for similar rim/hub combos? I mean, what other 
> rims are comparable to the Open Pro? I want something sturdy, sub 500 gram, 
> silver, good reputation. I've used Sun rims like the M14A and the ME14A and 
> they are inexpensive, light, and apparently bullet proof. A semi aero 
> profile is fine. Would prefer something as wide as the Open Pro. As to 
> hubs, as long as they are at Hyperglide, the bearings are decent and they 
> are silver or, at least, not ugly, I'm not particular.
> 2b. What are the best sources for such wheels -- quality, customer 
> service, price, in that order?
> 2c. Does anyone have something like that to trade or sell?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
>
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> [email protected] 
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[RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-17 Thread Ian A
IMO: -

Dynamo hub wheelset will be an easier sell, due to the popularity of LED 
lights. As an example the Avenir lights on Amazon are a killer deal.  The 
tires probably have some life left.  Probably, a wheelset like this new 
would cost approx $400.00 (maybe a little more, but if you look at 
Handspun's prices for similar stuff (Mavic A319 etc). Rotor would cost  a 
few more bucks. The tires are worth something too.

On the local CL (no shipping on top), somewhere around $225?  That could be 
a pretty good deal for someone.  Probably worth more to just keep the 
wheels, considering what you must have invested in them.

On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:02:55 PM UTC-6, bertin753 wrote:
>
> Two questions: First, I want to sell the skinny wheelset for the Fargo: 
> Bike shop built Sun Rhyno Lite rims with 32 14 g spokes laced to (rear) 
> black SRAM 8//9/10 Shimano compatible disk cassette hub with Avid BB7 160 
> mm rotor (not bent!), no cassette; front ditto to Shimano DH 3DN72 set up 
> with Avid rotor as above using Problem Solver's converter (ie, from splined 
> to 6 bolt). Plus pair of moderately used Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks and two 
> pairs of 28-35 mm tubes. Wheels have no more than 1,200 miles on them as 
> they shared Fargo duty with the SnoCat wheelset.
>
> I see Rhyno Lite wheelsets on sale for as little as $150 (26"). What's a 
> fair price for this one?
>
> Second: I want a nice silver wheelset for the Ram. The ideal would have 
> sporty-ish rim like an Open Pro, rear 36 and front 32, 14/15 butted spokes, 
> hubs at least 105 level. Best would be a 7 speed wheelset that I could 
> respace to 132.5 But 32/32 or 36/36 and 7 or 8/9/10 are fine. 
>
> 2a. What are my options for similar rim/hub combos? I mean, what other 
> rims are comparable to the Open Pro? I want something sturdy, sub 500 gram, 
> silver, good reputation. I've used Sun rims like the M14A and the ME14A and 
> they are inexpensive, light, and apparently bullet proof. A semi aero 
> profile is fine. Would prefer something as wide as the Open Pro. As to 
> hubs, as long as they are at Hyperglide, the bearings are decent and they 
> are silver or, at least, not ugly, I'm not particular.
> 2b. What are the best sources for such wheels -- quality, customer 
> service, price, in that order?
> 2c. Does anyone have something like that to trade or sell?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
>
> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html
> [email protected] 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-17 Thread Leslie
Patrick, 

Build 'em!   

-L


PS:  I need to make a correction to my original post.  I typed 'not', when 
I meant 'no';  unfortunately, that extra 't' changes the meaning.  Peter, 
Rich, Jim, Anthony, Joe, etc., can build 'great' wheels.  I had meant to 
type: "can build good, no, great wheels", but by saying "can build good not 
great wheels" seems to say they're okay, but not great.   *Not* what I 
meant.  

However, although they build great wheels, you can build a great wheel, 
too.   If someone doesn't want to build a wheel, by all means, call one of 
them, or find a local builder.   But if someone is inclined, they can 
handle it.   

-L



On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:38:59 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thanks. Y'all almost have me convinced. I have built one (1) wheel, a 
> fixed wheel with 36 spokes that presented absolutely no problem, thanks to 
> Sheldon's instructions; this was still true after I'd put ~2K miles on it, 
> many with heavy rear loads.
>
> We'll see. And thanks for the encouragement.
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Kelly  >wrote:
>
>> +2 for building your own.   It's not rocket science and the quality will 
>> be as good as it gets if you can follow directions.  :)
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:45:54 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>>
>>>  +1 for building your own.  I’m no mechanical genius, but I have now 
>>> built more than half a dozen wheelsets, and they’re all on the road and 
>>> doing fine, including a couple of wooden rim wheelsets, a Rohloff rear and 
>>> a couple of SON dynamo wheels.  It’s not that hard -- I just read through 
>>> Sheldon’s article on wheelbuilding first (here: http://sheldonbrown.com/
>>> **wheelbuild.html <http://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html> ), and now 
>>> I keep it by my wheelbuilding stand as a security blanket.  Take your time, 
>>> be careful, and you’ll get a good result.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com [mailto:rbw-owne...@**
>>> googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Leslie
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:54 AM
>>> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com
>>>
>>> *Cc:* internet-bob
>>> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> For a rim, I would suggest considering Velocity's A23 rim:  
>>> http://www.velocityusa.com/**default.asp?contentID=746<http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=746>
>>>
>>> (I have them in 650b, and really like them, built my first wheelset on 
>>> those rims.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim Thill, Rich Lesnik, Anthony at Longleaf, Peter White... all would 
>>> build you a good wheel set.. no, a *GREAT* wheel set.I have two 
>>> wheelsets that Rich built me before I started building my own, his are 
>>> perfect; Peter has a stellar reputation;  Anthony is who I got my 650b A23 
>>> rims from; and Jim is just an all-round great fella, can-do whatever it is 
>>> you need..   
>>>
>>> But you work at a shop now, right?  Just thinkin'  Build your own 
>>> wheelset?   I queued up numerous videos on youtube, read Jobst Brandt's 
>>> book, used my HoH wheels as a guide, and had at it...  they're functioning 
>>> very well for me.   I picked the hubs I wanted, picked the rims, picked the 
>>> spokes, and did it myself...   learned a lot, and can now tune up my 
>>> family's wheels as needed now
>>>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks. Y'all almost have me convinced. I have built one (1) wheel, a fixed
wheel with 36 spokes that presented absolutely no problem, thanks to
Sheldon's instructions; this was still true after I'd put ~2K miles on it,
many with heavy rear loads.

We'll see. And thanks for the encouragement.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Kelly  wrote:

> +2 for building your own.   It's not rocket science and the quality will
> be as good as it gets if you can follow directions.  :)
>
> Kelly
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:45:54 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>
>>  +1 for building your own.  I’m no mechanical genius, but I have now
>> built more than half a dozen wheelsets, and they’re all on the road and
>> doing fine, including a couple of wooden rim wheelsets, a Rohloff rear and
>> a couple of SON dynamo wheels.  It’s not that hard -- I just read through
>> Sheldon’s article on wheelbuilding first (here: http://sheldonbrown.com/*
>> *wheelbuild.html <http://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html> ), and now I
>> keep it by my wheelbuilding stand as a security blanket.  Take your time,
>> be careful, and you’ll get a good result.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com [mailto:rbw-owne...@**
>> googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Leslie
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:54 AM
>> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com
>>
>> *Cc:* internet-bob
>> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram
>>
>>
>>
>> For a rim, I would suggest considering Velocity's A23 rim:
>> http://www.velocityusa.com/**default.asp?contentID=746<http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=746>
>>
>> (I have them in 650b, and really like them, built my first wheelset on
>> those rims.)
>>
>>
>> Jim Thill, Rich Lesnik, Anthony at Longleaf, Peter White... all would
>> build you a good wheel set.. not, a GREAT wheel set.I have two
>> wheelsets that Rich built me before I started building my own, his are
>> perfect; Peter has a stellar reputation;  Anthony is who I got my 650b A23
>> rims from; and Jim is just an all-round great fella, can-do whatever it is
>> you need..
>>
>> But you work at a shop now, right?  Just thinkin'  Build your own
>> wheelset?   I queued up numerous videos on youtube, read Jobst Brandt's
>> book, used my HoH wheels as a guide, and had at it...  they're functioning
>> very well for me.   I picked the hubs I wanted, picked the rims, picked the
>> spokes, and did it myself...   learned a lot, and can now tune up my
>> family's wheels as needed now
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-17 Thread Kelly
+2 for building your own.   It's not rocket science and the quality will be 
as good as it gets if you can follow directions.  :)

Kelly

On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:45:54 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>
>  +1 for building your own.  I’m no mechanical genius, but I have now 
> built more than half a dozen wheelsets, and they’re all on the road and 
> doing fine, including a couple of wooden rim wheelsets, a Rohloff rear and 
> a couple of SON dynamo wheels.  It’s not that hard -- I just read through 
> Sheldon’s article on wheelbuilding first (here: 
> http://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html ), and now I keep it by my 
> wheelbuilding stand as a security blanket.  Take your time, be careful, and 
> you’ll get a good result.
>
>  
>
> *From:* [email protected]  [mailto:
> [email protected] ] *On Behalf Of *Leslie
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:54 AM
> *To:* [email protected] 
> *Cc:* internet-bob
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram
>
>  
>
> For a rim, I would suggest considering Velocity's A23 rim:  
> http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=746
>
> (I have them in 650b, and really like them, built my first wheelset on 
> those rims.)
>
>
> Jim Thill, Rich Lesnik, Anthony at Longleaf, Peter White... all would 
> build you a good wheel set.. not, a GREAT wheel set.I have two 
> wheelsets that Rich built me before I started building my own, his are 
> perfect; Peter has a stellar reputation;  Anthony is who I got my 650b A23 
> rims from; and Jim is just an all-round great fella, can-do whatever it is 
> you need..   
>
> But you work at a shop now, right?  Just thinkin'  Build your own 
> wheelset?   I queued up numerous videos on youtube, read Jobst Brandt's 
> book, used my HoH wheels as a guide, and had at it...  they're functioning 
> very well for me.   I picked the hubs I wanted, picked the rims, picked the 
> spokes, and did it myself...   learned a lot, and can now tune up my 
> family's wheels as needed now
>  
>
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[RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-17 Thread Minh
Ah.  I love joe, had him build me a set of wheels 10 years ago, and they are 
still true enough that I still have not had to adjust them. Great guy to deal 
with, was happy to see he was still building wheels. 

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[RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-17 Thread Garth
My advice,

Buy the best , buy it once !

I have hired Joe Young (youngwheels.com)to build 2 sets of Mavic/Phil Wood 
wheels for me, absolutely perfectly true/round wheels that have stayed that 
way, like any true professionally built wheels should !  He "used" to build 
wheels for Riv back in the day.  Unless you are really really good , or 
like messing(truing) with wheels, have a Dedicated Professional build you a 
set, and they will last a long time. 

Cartridge bearing hubs only from my perspective.  No maintenance required.  
If you like messing with hubs, get some Shimano. Otherwise Phil,DT or White 
hubs.  The hubs from VO "look" nice, but if you need a new freehub or 
something, whatcha do ?  No thanks !  The name-brands like Phil will at 
least help. 

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RE: [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-17 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
+1 for building your own.  I'm no mechanical genius, but I have now built more 
than half a dozen wheelsets, and they're all on the road and doing fine, 
including a couple of wooden rim wheelsets, a Rohloff rear and a couple of SON 
dynamo wheels.  It's not that hard -- I just read through Sheldon's article on 
wheelbuilding first (here: http://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html ), and now I 
keep it by my wheelbuilding stand as a security blanket.  Take your time, be 
careful, and you'll get a good result.

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Leslie
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: internet-bob
Subject: [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram

For a rim, I would suggest considering Velocity's A23 rim:  
http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=746

(I have them in 650b, and really like them, built my first wheelset on those 
rims.)


Jim Thill, Rich Lesnik, Anthony at Longleaf, Peter White... all would build you 
a good wheel set.. not, a GREAT wheel set.I have two wheelsets that Rich 
built me before I started building my own, his are perfect; Peter has a stellar 
reputation;  Anthony is who I got my 650b A23 rims from; and Jim is just an 
all-round great fella, can-do whatever it is you need..

But you work at a shop now, right?  Just thinkin'  Build your own wheelset? 
  I queued up numerous videos on youtube, read Jobst Brandt's book, used my HoH 
wheels as a guide, and had at it...  they're functioning very well for me.   I 
picked the hubs I wanted, picked the rims, picked the spokes, and did it 
myself...   learned a lot, and can now tune up my family's wheels as needed 
now

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[RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-17 Thread Leslie
For a rim, I would suggest considering Velocity's A23 rim:  
http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=746

(I have them in 650b, and really like them, built my first wheelset on 
those rims.)


Jim Thill, Rich Lesnik, Anthony at Longleaf, Peter White... all would build 
you a good wheel set.. not, a GREAT wheel set.I have two wheelsets that 
Rich built me before I started building my own, his are perfect; Peter has 
a stellar reputation;  Anthony is who I got my 650b A23 rims from; and Jim 
is just an all-round great fella, can-do whatever it is you need..   

But you work at a shop now, right?  Just thinkin'  Build your own 
wheelset?   I queued up numerous videos on youtube, read Jobst Brandt's 
book, used my HoH wheels as a guide, and had at it...  they're functioning 
very well for me.   I picked the hubs I wanted, picked the rims, picked the 
spokes, and did it myself...   learned a lot, and can now tune up my 
family's wheels as needed now
 

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[RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-16 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Does anyone know about the pre-built Sun Ringle "Accelerator R2.0" wheelset
(http://www.sun-ringle.com/product-vault/road-wheelsets/accelerator-x2-0/)
(stupid name; ought to give discount for such shite) or the (I take it)
slightly more beefy "R2.0 Road Wheelset (
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=75711)?

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:02 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> Two questions: First, I want to sell the skinny wheelset for the Fargo:
> Bike shop built Sun Rhyno Lite rims with 32 14 g spokes laced to (rear)
> black SRAM 8//9/10 Shimano compatible disk cassette hub with Avid BB7 160
> mm rotor (not bent!), no cassette; front ditto to Shimano DH 3DN72 set up
> with Avid rotor as above using Problem Solver's converter (ie, from splined
> to 6 bolt). Plus pair of moderately used Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks and two
> pairs of 28-35 mm tubes. Wheels have no more than 1,200 miles on them as
> they shared Fargo duty with the SnoCat wheelset.
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> I see Rhyno Lite wheelsets on sale for as little as $150 (26"). What's a
> fair price for this one?
>
> Second: I want a nice silver wheelset for the Ram. The ideal would have
> sporty-ish rim like an Open Pro, rear 36 and front 32, 14/15 butted spokes,
> hubs at least 105 level. Best would be a 7 speed wheelset that I could
> respace to 132.5 But 32/32 or 36/36 and 7 or 8/9/10 are fine.
>
> 2a. What are my options for similar rim/hub combos? I mean, what other
> rims are comparable to the Open Pro? I want something sturdy, sub 500 gram,
> silver, good reputation. I've used Sun rims like the M14A and the ME14A and
> they are inexpensive, light, and apparently bullet proof. A semi aero
> profile is fine. Would prefer something as wide as the Open Pro. As to
> hubs, as long as they are at Hyperglide, the bearings are decent and they
> are silver or, at least, not ugly, I'm not particular.
> 2b. What are the best sources for such wheels -- quality, customer
> service, price, in that order?
> 2c. Does anyone have something like that to trade or sell?
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