Re: [RBW] Re: Would you store/park your Riv in one of these?

2011-10-30 Thread John Blish 
Even though this thread is old, I find myself thinking about this question,
i.e., Would You?  when I am out riding.

Thus, I took some pics recently:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111838829033930119881/albums/5669475288427885009

These are lockers installed and maintained by Metro Transit in the Twin
Cities at the NorthStar Station in Fridley, MN.

As Forrest said, "Yes, I would."

With these lockers I would have no hesitation.  The hinge runs the full
length of the door / frame joint.  It is not possible to tell in what way
the lockers are attached to the deck.  It is not possible to know what is
in any given locker unless you saw something being put in or somehow made a
hole in the exterior.  There is not just one locker.  There are 4 on each
side of the station.  (I consider that number to be a positive factor
compared to a situation where there is only one.)  There is probably 24
hour video that includes this location although I sure would not kid myself
about anyone watching the video live.  I consider these completely worthy
of any bike.

Is it possible that you already have lockers of perhaps this quality
someplace close and could use those lockers and walk the distance there and
back at least while you try out this idea?

These have no external lock to mess with, no plastic door or other parts
and nothing to attach a chain to in order to pull the locker off its
mount.  The mass of the 4-plex locker is an obvious advantage.

For me, the nature and quality of the locker is what would decide the
issue.  Close behind as factors are where it would be located and whether
it could be breached by brute force.  In some home burglaries I am familiar
with the method of entry was simply brute force applied to a door.

-jb





On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Corwin  wrote:

> I parked my Quickbeam in a steel bike locker at Ashby BART for several
> years. I never worried about anyone stealing my bike - principally
> because there were so many other bikes nearby in racks that were much
> easier targets (cheap lock, etc.). Now that I think about it, the
> locking mechanism on all the bike lockers I have used so far was of
> the same type as the mechanism on a Kryptonite U-lock which was easily
> defeated with the barrel of a Bic pen several years ago. I think the
> best bet is to get a good steel locker, bolt it to the ground and use
> a Mul-t-lock to secure the door.
>
> Corwin
>
> On Oct 26, 10:34 am, William  wrote:
> > It comes down to which locker.
> >
> > I would lock my Rivendell in the very nicest bike lockers I have seen.  I
> > would absolutely not park my Rivendell in the worst bike lockers I have
> > seen.  The best bike lockers are as good or better than parking your bike
> > in your home.  The worst bike lockers are nearly as bad as leaning your
> > bike against a building.
> >
> > The bike lockers at the South Hayward BART Station for example are
> > worthless.  The doors are thermoplastic, and can be fairly easily pried
> > open enough to cause the door lock to pop open without defeating the lock
> > itself.  Three commuters from my office locked bikes there and lost them.
> >  It's South Hayward, and it's a BART station, so you'll have to assess
> what
> > your risk tolerance will be based on who is going to be around.
>
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[RBW] Re: Would you store/park your Riv in one of these?

2011-10-30 Thread Corwin 
I parked my Quickbeam in a steel bike locker at Ashby BART for several
years. I never worried about anyone stealing my bike - principally
because there were so many other bikes nearby in racks that were much
easier targets (cheap lock, etc.). Now that I think about it, the
locking mechanism on all the bike lockers I have used so far was of
the same type as the mechanism on a Kryptonite U-lock which was easily
defeated with the barrel of a Bic pen several years ago. I think the
best bet is to get a good steel locker, bolt it to the ground and use
a Mul-t-lock to secure the door.

Corwin

On Oct 26, 10:34 am, William  wrote:
> It comes down to which locker.  
>
> I would lock my Rivendell in the very nicest bike lockers I have seen.  I
> would absolutely not park my Rivendell in the worst bike lockers I have
> seen.  The best bike lockers are as good or better than parking your bike
> in your home.  The worst bike lockers are nearly as bad as leaning your
> bike against a building.  
>
> The bike lockers at the South Hayward BART Station for example are
> worthless.  The doors are thermoplastic, and can be fairly easily pried
> open enough to cause the door lock to pop open without defeating the lock
> itself.  Three commuters from my office locked bikes there and lost them.
>  It's South Hayward, and it's a BART station, so you'll have to assess what
> your risk tolerance will be based on who is going to be around.  

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[RBW] Re: Would you store/park your Riv in one of these?

2011-10-27 Thread Sumehra 
Thank you all for chiming in!  Your insight has been very helpful.  Time 
for me to gather some quotes!

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[RBW] Re: Would you store/park your Riv in one of these?

2011-10-27 Thread Sumehra 
Wow, Rick, small world!  Lots of people come and go through the Gaither. 
 It's interesting to hear their stories.

I am probably going to put it on the far end of my own parking spot, away 
from the street.  At night, it would be impeded by our car, but by day, I 
guess a truck could come by and yank it out of the ground.

And, thanks.  That's pretty cool, wish I knew where that blog post was...

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[RBW] Re: Would you store/park your Riv in one of these?

2011-10-27 Thread Sumehra 
If I do go through with it, I will most likely get one that holds two bikes 
and my husband and I will use both spots.  He also has a "nice bike," so 
security of the locker is key.  This will also help clear up some prime 
real estate within our condo unit, which is quite small as it is.  If he 
ends up not using it quite as frequently to warrant a spot in the locker, 
then renting is definitely something to think about!

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[RBW] Re: Would you store/park your Riv in one of these?

2011-10-27 Thread Ginz 
I might consider one of these lockers as well.   Perhaps I'd paint the
word "TRASH" on there so thieves would think it is a house for my
garbage cans.

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[RBW] Re: Would you store/park your Riv in one of these?

2011-10-27 Thread Peter Pesce 
That locker is more weatherproof than my 90 year old garage, where my bikes 
are, so I'd agree that it's no problem.

One advantage of lockers is that thieves don't know what is in them, or 
even if there's anything in them at all. I would keep a lock on it even 
when empty so there is no clear indication of it being un/occupied. This 
will also keep your neighbors from moving in!

The added u-bolt in the ground is an excellent idea. If the locker door 
isn't your only defense, then take advantage of the fact that the locker 
makes it really hard for the thief to get inside and move around. I'd 
suggest locating the u-bolt in a place that would make it difficult to get 
bolt cutters on. (But not so inconvenient that you would be inclined not to 
lock your bike up!)

Good lock.

Pete

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[RBW] Re: Would you store/park your Riv in one of these?

2011-10-26 Thread Rick 
Your area has a fair bit of crime, mostly of the disorganized
"opportunity" kind though (I'm in ATL, and am familiar w/ the Gaither
-- my best friend lived in a downstairs righthand side10th street
facing unit back in the paleolithic era).  Did the Assoc. tell you
where you could put it?  I'm assuming back of the lot on Argonne.
Chances are most of the people in our town aren't going to have a clue
what a bike locker is, but will take a crack at it if it looks like
it's got something valuable inside, particularly w/ the park
traffic.

You're going to have to have that thing bolted in securely.  Best
option would be away from the street -- I'd imagine the Gaither's lot
is usually pretty full, and that way no one would be able to back in
and drag it into a truck with the intention of cracking the nut off-
site.  If it's away from Argonne and vehicle access to it is
significantly impeded, and it was secured to the ground, I'd do it.

Sweet mixte, by the way.  Pretty sure I saw it posted on the atlanta
bicycle coalition's blog a couple of months ago.  Good luck with the
project.

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[RBW] Re: Would you store/park your Riv in one of these?

2011-10-26 Thread Sumehra 
Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Would you store/park your Riv in one of these?

2011-10-26 Thread Doug 
I rent a bike locker at work, same brand as you reference.  It's great
- I have no concerns whatsoever about the security of my rivish
Resurrectio.  I don't know what you're capital outlay for a locker
like this would be, but note that each locker can hold two bikes, one
from each end.  If you can find someone else in your building who
wants to rent the other half you might be able to recover some of the
costs of buying and installing the locker.  My employer charges $85/
year rental.

On Oct 25, 11:45 pm, Sumehra  wrote:
> I live in a walkup apartment building, and lugging my 
> Rivup and down 
> the stairs and through the narrow doorway has become quite
> annoying.
>
> I have been toying with the idea of installing a bike
> locker
> in our parking
> lot for about a year now...  I pitched the idea to my condo association
> last year (see attached presentation), and although they wont fund the
> project, they have let me install one on my own dime.
>
> I just wanted to get the groups thoughts--would you store your Riv in a
> bike locker, outside, in the elements?  Think about moisture/humidity
> affecting the steel, safety/security... (or anything else I haven't thought
> of).
>
> Having one of these will definitely get me riding more.  I'm just afraid of
> what may happen to the bike...
>
> Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!
>
>  The Bicycle Solution.pdf
> 2339KViewDownload

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[RBW] Re: Would you store/park your Riv in one of these?

2011-10-26 Thread William 
It comes down to which locker.  

I would lock my Rivendell in the very nicest bike lockers I have seen.  I 
would absolutely not park my Rivendell in the worst bike lockers I have 
seen.  The best bike lockers are as good or better than parking your bike 
in your home.  The worst bike lockers are nearly as bad as leaning your 
bike against a building.  

The bike lockers at the South Hayward BART Station for example are 
worthless.  The doors are thermoplastic, and can be fairly easily pried 
open enough to cause the door lock to pop open without defeating the lock 
itself.  Three commuters from my office locked bikes there and lost them. 
 It's South Hayward, and it's a BART station, so you'll have to assess what 
your risk tolerance will be based on who is going to be around.  


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[RBW] Re: Would you store/park your Riv in one of these?

2011-10-26 Thread Minh 
Wow, good leg-work on your part!  My condo association would never
agree to that.  my only concern would be humidity and condensation.
Maybe that's not a big deal with a bicycle, and bicycles are made to
be used/worn out, so i say go for it if you can't deal with lugging it
in and out.  Personally, i suffer through it :)

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[RBW] Re: Would you store/park your Riv in one of these?

2011-10-26 Thread Forrest 
Yes, I would.  

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[RBW] Re: Would you store/park your Riv in one of these?

2011-10-25 Thread Benedikt 
I love the,"Not just for hipsters anymore" in your pitch!

On Oct 25, 9:45 pm, Sumehra  wrote:
> I live in a walkup apartment building, and lugging my 
> Rivup and down 
> the stairs and through the narrow doorway has become quite
> annoying.
>
> I have been toying with the idea of installing a bike
> locker
> in our parking
> lot for about a year now...  I pitched the idea to my condo association
> last year (see attached presentation), and although they wont fund the
> project, they have let me install one on my own dime.
>
> I just wanted to get the groups thoughts--would you store your Riv in a
> bike locker, outside, in the elements?  Think about moisture/humidity
> affecting the steel, safety/security... (or anything else I haven't thought
> of).
>
> Having one of these will definitely get me riding more.  I'm just afraid of
> what may happen to the bike...
>
> Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!
>
>  The Bicycle Solution.pdf
> 2339KViewDownload

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