Re: [RBW] Re: Yoga; was [RBW ]
Gernot: thanks for this information and comment which is very useful. I may just start with Bikram since (unless they've canceled it) the nearby studio has a first month/as many sessions as you want/$20 offer. This will be a cheap way to get my feet wet. Even closer is the gymn across the street that offers Iyengar among others, but that is a mass-audience type of setting. Still, I may start with the first and move to the second for convenience and the opportunity to use the weights. We'll see. I'll report back to the list after my first month of practice. On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Earl Grey wrote: > Having never done Bikram (but having practiced various styles of yoga > since 1996 including Ashtanga, Iyengar, Kripalu, and Anusara, and now > teaching my own mixture for the past year and a half, I'd say try > Bikram, but try some other styles as well. I can see Bikram being good > if you are VERY inflexible, but it is a very repetitive style (you do > the same 20 poses twice each class in the same sequence). If you are > very flexible, I can see Bikram being potentially dangerous (you don't > want to over-stretch your ligaments). In many other styles, each class > can be quite different, one focusing on backbends, the next on > synchronizing your movement with your breath, and the one after that > on hip openers. Find a style you like, a teacher you like, and keep > going. I am 43 now, and each year I have practiced yoga I have gotten > stronger, more flexible, more focused, and have improved my posture. I > can do things now I was never able to do when I was at my supposed > peak physical condition in my 20s. And yoga is great for counteracting > the hamstring tightness that results from biking and running. > > I'd have to say that aside from my wife, yoga has had the single most > positive impact on my life, just ahead of biking. :) > > Gernot > > On Jan 19, 11:35 pm, Patrick in VT wrote: >> On Jan 18, 7:00 pm, William Pustow wrote: >> >> > The bottom line isall yoga is good - just do it . . . >> >> i'd second that, even as one who doesn't practice yoga regularly and >> is still a novice. for me yoga and cycling dovetail remarkably well >> because yoga teaches one to breathe evenly, stay relaxed and stay >> focused when the body is being stressed. my performance on the bike >> during hard efforts increased noticeably when I introduced some yoga >> into my fitness regimen - particularly, the ability to ride for longer >> periods of time at, or above, lactate threshold. >> >> being mindful of my breathing has also made a real difference for me >> off the bike. good stuff, and I look forward to practicing/learning >> more about it. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Yoga; was [RBW ]
Having never done Bikram (but having practiced various styles of yoga since 1996 including Ashtanga, Iyengar, Kripalu, and Anusara, and now teaching my own mixture for the past year and a half, I'd say try Bikram, but try some other styles as well. I can see Bikram being good if you are VERY inflexible, but it is a very repetitive style (you do the same 20 poses twice each class in the same sequence). If you are very flexible, I can see Bikram being potentially dangerous (you don't want to over-stretch your ligaments). In many other styles, each class can be quite different, one focusing on backbends, the next on synchronizing your movement with your breath, and the one after that on hip openers. Find a style you like, a teacher you like, and keep going. I am 43 now, and each year I have practiced yoga I have gotten stronger, more flexible, more focused, and have improved my posture. I can do things now I was never able to do when I was at my supposed peak physical condition in my 20s. And yoga is great for counteracting the hamstring tightness that results from biking and running. I'd have to say that aside from my wife, yoga has had the single most positive impact on my life, just ahead of biking. :) Gernot On Jan 19, 11:35 pm, Patrick in VT wrote: > On Jan 18, 7:00 pm, William Pustow wrote: > > > The bottom line isall yoga is good - just do it . . . > > i'd second that, even as one who doesn't practice yoga regularly and > is still a novice. for me yoga and cycling dovetail remarkably well > because yoga teaches one to breathe evenly, stay relaxed and stay > focused when the body is being stressed. my performance on the bike > during hard efforts increased noticeably when I introduced some yoga > into my fitness regimen - particularly, the ability to ride for longer > periods of time at, or above, lactate threshold. > > being mindful of my breathing has also made a real difference for me > off the bike. good stuff, and I look forward to practicing/learning > more about it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Yoga; was [RBW ]
On Jan 18, 7:00 pm, William Pustow wrote: > The bottom line isall yoga is good - just do it . . . i'd second that, even as one who doesn't practice yoga regularly and is still a novice. for me yoga and cycling dovetail remarkably well because yoga teaches one to breathe evenly, stay relaxed and stay focused when the body is being stressed. my performance on the bike during hard efforts increased noticeably when I introduced some yoga into my fitness regimen - particularly, the ability to ride for longer periods of time at, or above, lactate threshold. being mindful of my breathing has also made a real difference for me off the bike. good stuff, and I look forward to practicing/learning more about it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Yoga; was [RBW ]
If you took that "just do it" to some major shoe mfg... Nah that would never work. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: William Pustow Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 19:00:10 To: Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Yoga; was [RBW ] The bottom line isall yoga is good - just do it (I heard that somewhere). Oh, and this may not be a good advertisement for Bikram yoga, but those 6 miles after yoga may take a little longer. On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:53 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Thanks, Bill. I've heard good things about Bikram, and since they > offer "unlimited lessons for first month for $20" I may just take them > up on it. The benefit of the two gymns is that they are very close > (and cheaper) -- one almost literally across the street -- while > Bikrams is a huge six miles away. We'll see. > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:48 PM, William Pustow wrote: >> What's a little more heat in NM? Seriously, Bikram Yoga may initially seem a >> little harder than other types of yoga becauseit is. It's hot in there! >> It actually takes a few classes to get used to the heat and your instructor >> will probably tell you to take it slow and simply lay down and rest if the >> heat is getting to you. The trick for the first 2 or 3 sessions is to stay >> in the room for the entire class and just get used to the heat. >> >> The advantages to Bikram, in my opinion, is that the heat helps to loosen >> the muscles and that allows you to stretch a little further. I've also found >> that after a session you come out of the room with that feeling of total >> relaxation - similar to coming out of a sauna. >> >> I've come to this thread a little late so I apologize if this is a rehash. >> Anyway, try it, give it a chance and I think you'll like it. >> >> Bill - whose wife is a Bikram instructor. >> Louisville, Ky >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 18, 2011, at 1:46 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: >> >>> Thanks for all the advice about yoga, which has made me decide to try >>> it out. I'm not sure I want to start with Buckram's -- I didn't realize >>> they included heat -- but one of the nearby gyms is sure to have >>> classes. >>> >>> I realize that Defined Fitness or Sports and Wellness classes may not >>> be the best, but I do need a venue that is close and convenient, >>> otherwise I won't keep it up. We'll see. I think I'll at least stop by >>> Bikram's this week and talk to them. >>> >>> -- >>> Patrick Moore >>> Albuquerque, NM >>> For professional resumes, contact >>> Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected] >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > > > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected] > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Yoga; was [RBW ]
The bottom line isall yoga is good - just do it (I heard that somewhere). Oh, and this may not be a good advertisement for Bikram yoga, but those 6 miles after yoga may take a little longer. On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:53 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Thanks, Bill. I've heard good things about Bikram, and since they > offer "unlimited lessons for first month for $20" I may just take them > up on it. The benefit of the two gymns is that they are very close > (and cheaper) -- one almost literally across the street -- while > Bikrams is a huge six miles away. We'll see. > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:48 PM, William Pustow wrote: >> What's a little more heat in NM? Seriously, Bikram Yoga may initially seem a >> little harder than other types of yoga becauseit is. It's hot in there! >> It actually takes a few classes to get used to the heat and your instructor >> will probably tell you to take it slow and simply lay down and rest if the >> heat is getting to you. The trick for the first 2 or 3 sessions is to stay >> in the room for the entire class and just get used to the heat. >> >> The advantages to Bikram, in my opinion, is that the heat helps to loosen >> the muscles and that allows you to stretch a little further. I've also found >> that after a session you come out of the room with that feeling of total >> relaxation - similar to coming out of a sauna. >> >> I've come to this thread a little late so I apologize if this is a rehash. >> Anyway, try it, give it a chance and I think you'll like it. >> >> Bill - whose wife is a Bikram instructor. >> Louisville, Ky >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 18, 2011, at 1:46 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: >> >>> Thanks for all the advice about yoga, which has made me decide to try >>> it out. I'm not sure I want to start with Buckram's -- I didn't realize >>> they included heat -- but one of the nearby gyms is sure to have >>> classes. >>> >>> I realize that Defined Fitness or Sports and Wellness classes may not >>> be the best, but I do need a venue that is close and convenient, >>> otherwise I won't keep it up. We'll see. I think I'll at least stop by >>> Bikram's this week and talk to them. >>> >>> -- >>> Patrick Moore >>> Albuquerque, NM >>> For professional resumes, contact >>> Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected] >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > > > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected] > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Yoga; was [RBW ]
Thanks, Bill. I've heard good things about Bikram, and since they offer "unlimited lessons for first month for $20" I may just take them up on it. The benefit of the two gymns is that they are very close (and cheaper) -- one almost literally across the street -- while Bikrams is a huge six miles away. We'll see. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:48 PM, William Pustow wrote: > What's a little more heat in NM? Seriously, Bikram Yoga may initially seem a > little harder than other types of yoga becauseit is. It's hot in there! > It actually takes a few classes to get used to the heat and your instructor > will probably tell you to take it slow and simply lay down and rest if the > heat is getting to you. The trick for the first 2 or 3 sessions is to stay in > the room for the entire class and just get used to the heat. > > The advantages to Bikram, in my opinion, is that the heat helps to loosen the > muscles and that allows you to stretch a little further. I've also found that > after a session you come out of the room with that feeling of total > relaxation - similar to coming out of a sauna. > > I've come to this thread a little late so I apologize if this is a rehash. > Anyway, try it, give it a chance and I think you'll like it. > > Bill - whose wife is a Bikram instructor. > Louisville, Ky > > > > > > On Jan 18, 2011, at 1:46 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > >> Thanks for all the advice about yoga, which has made me decide to try >> it out. I'm not sure I want to start with Buckram's -- I didn't realize >> they included heat -- but one of the nearby gyms is sure to have >> classes. >> >> I realize that Defined Fitness or Sports and Wellness classes may not >> be the best, but I do need a venue that is close and convenient, >> otherwise I won't keep it up. We'll see. I think I'll at least stop by >> Bikram's this week and talk to them. >> >> -- >> Patrick Moore >> Albuquerque, NM >> For professional resumes, contact >> Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected] >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Yoga; was [RBW ]
What's a little more heat in NM? Seriously, Bikram Yoga may initially seem a little harder than other types of yoga becauseit is. It's hot in there! It actually takes a few classes to get used to the heat and your instructor will probably tell you to take it slow and simply lay down and rest if the heat is getting to you. The trick for the first 2 or 3 sessions is to stay in the room for the entire class and just get used to the heat. The advantages to Bikram, in my opinion, is that the heat helps to loosen the muscles and that allows you to stretch a little further. I've also found that after a session you come out of the room with that feeling of total relaxation - similar to coming out of a sauna. I've come to this thread a little late so I apologize if this is a rehash. Anyway, try it, give it a chance and I think you'll like it. Bill - whose wife is a Bikram instructor. Louisville, Ky On Jan 18, 2011, at 1:46 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Thanks for all the advice about yoga, which has made me decide to try > it out. I'm not sure I want to start with Buckram's -- I didn't realize > they included heat -- but one of the nearby gyms is sure to have > classes. > > I realize that Defined Fitness or Sports and Wellness classes may not > be the best, but I do need a venue that is close and convenient, > otherwise I won't keep it up. We'll see. I think I'll at least stop by > Bikram's this week and talk to them. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected] > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Yoga; was [RBW ]
Thanks for all the advice about yoga, which has made me decide to try it out. I'm not sure I want to start with Bikram's -- I didn't realize they included heat -- but one of the nearby gyms is sure to have classes. I realize that Defined Fitness or Sports and Wellness classes may not be the best, but I do need a venue that is close and convenient, otherwise I won't keep it up. We'll see. I think I'll at least stop by Bikram's this week and talk to them. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Yoga; was [RBW ]
I've never done Bikram's. I know they use a room heated to around 90 deg to make you sweat while doing a sequence of around 20 postures. I've done other forms before settling with Ashtanga yoga. It's one of the most challenging forms, but I have a tendency to be lazy so I needed something to wake up my body. 1.Most of your upper body muscle tone comes for doing a sequence of postures (asanas). Flowing from one to another like the sun salutation (surya namaskara A). Where you start in mountain pose, standing up straight, raise your arms, bend at the waist, drop down into a low plank, move to upward dog, then downward dog. Moving from 1 asana to the next uses a lot of upper body strength. This has helped me a lot when I have to climb up steep hills while seated. I pull on the hoods. 2. Most people, including myself may gain a 1/2 inch or two. I typical go from 5'2 1/2 to 5'3 after doing yoga for awhile. And you'll find yourself sitting up straighter and walking straighter. I get compliments on my posture sometimes. 3. Your tendons are stretched more plus it seems like my joint feel lubricated. And your connective tissues get stretched and strengthened, like they do in rolfing. 4. How yoga helps mentally is that you're suppose to focus on tightening your core and muscles during the postures, plus focusing on your breath. In ashthanga the breath goes with each posture. So while you're focusing on your breath and tightening your core along with your other muscles you don't have time to follow every thought that goes on in your mind. That's where the lightness comes from after you leave the class. Your mind gets a rest from all the negative thoughts and lists it usually follows. Also in ashthanga we practice eye placement (dhristi) like when doing a forward seated bend your eyes look at your toes. This keeps you focused and prevents you from looking and comparing yourself to others. Here's my one caveat. As a beginner I suggest going to a studio, like Bikrams, as opposed to a gym. The gym's instructors are hit and miss. Some just got certified last weekend in a 3 day course, while others have extensive training in a studio. You can see the difference. My advice is go to a studio tell the instructor what you hope to accomplish and tell her what physical or emotional ailments you're hoping to work on. She'll be more attentive to you with learning the postures. Whatever you do, don't follow others in class and think you should be at the same level. Don't judge yourself to others. Focus on your own practice. You're right where you are suppose to be. :) On Jan 17, 7:20 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Beth: I have been considering yoga as a supplement to cycling (that's the > cycling content) and for much needed flexibility, posture and emotional > benefits. I am copying the list in case others have informed opinions. I'd > be grateful to learn how yoga helps with the following: > > 1. upper body muscle tone > 2. posture (I have a very slight congenital "hump" or curvature) > 3. flexibility (I can guess this one, though) > 4. emotions > > Bikram's has opened a new westside studio and has an introductory $20 for > the first month offer, so I think I'll try it, but weight training has also > been suggested and since I hate "exercise" I know I won't do both. > > Please reply offlist (unless others are interested vis-a-vis cycling > supplement) to > [email protected]. > > Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
