[RBW] Re: the precarious balance of rim development

2012-11-04 Thread Daniel 
 Choosing a rim should involve desired tire width. Since it's a Ram, I'm 
guessing you'll run a 28mm-ish tire, yeah? That's wide enough that you 
could run almost any rim, IMO.
 
I'd probably go with something from Velocity. The Synergy has a more 
traditional profile, though not totally traditional. I like that they're 
made in the US.
My Velocity Dyads have a mini-v, but have been perfect. And I like the way 
they look.
The Sun CR-18 is a budget classic. You could beat on them till the Stouty 
comes out.
 
Daniel

On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:48:21 PM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:

> Have a pair of Phil Wood 'Rivy' 36h hubs I intend to build up during the 
> winter months for my Rambouillet, but am undecided on what rims to go 
> with.  A while back, Grant posted an insightful piece regarding the 
> precarious balance of rim development (i.e., 'Light, Strong, and 
> Inexpensive: Pick Two').  He then mentioned rolling out a new ‘Stouty’ rim 
> of which I've been pestering Rick for an ETA for nearly a year now, but he 
> confessed they were waiting as well.  Complete speculation on my part, but 
> I presume the delay may have something to do with Velocity moving it's 
> production from Australia to Florida.  Given this, I may just go ahead and 
> choose from the current offering of rims (such as the ones below), but 
> wanted to first touch base with this group to gather firsthand 
> builder/rider experiences or possibly learn of other options.  I'm 
> also curious of any considerations pertaining to tire mounting/seating 
> issues.
>
>  
>
> Grand Bois - http://cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/336618/404875/list.html
>
> Pacenti PL23 - 
> http://www.bikelugs.com/store/index.php?strWebAction=item_detail&intItemID=398
>
> Soma Eldon - http://store.somafab.com/soelrim70.html
>
> Velo-Orange Raid/PBP/Diagonale - 
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/wheelsets-rims-hubs/rims.html
>
>  
>
> From this list, it is probably obvious I'm leaning towards a traditional 
> looking, non-anodized, non-machined, single/double eyelet, silver rim. 
>  Incidentally, I will be running 32 mm tires (Jack Brown Green’s, most 
> likely).  Thanks in advance.
>
>  
>
> michael z
>
>  
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: the precarious balance of rim development

2012-11-03 Thread Jeremy Till 
Another plus for the H+Son TB14--they come in a silver high polished 
version which is very classic looking, including no labels whatsoever 
except for a little bit branding on the counterweight around the valve 
hole.  I built up a pair for my Quickbeam and liked them a lot: 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/85709120@N07/8003630591/in/photostream

(they're a bit dirty in this photo)

On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:48:21 PM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Have a pair of Phil Wood 'Rivy' 36h hubs I intend to build up during the 
> winter months for my Rambouillet, but am undecided on what rims to go 
> with.  A while back, Grant posted an insightful piece regarding the 
> precarious balance of rim development (i.e., 'Light, Strong, and 
> Inexpensive: Pick Two').  He then mentioned rolling out a new ‘Stouty’ rim 
> of which I've been pestering Rick for an ETA for nearly a year now, but he 
> confessed they were waiting as well.  Complete speculation on my part, but 
> I presume the delay may have something to do with Velocity moving it's 
> production from Australia to Florida.  Given this, I may just go ahead and 
> choose from the current offering of rims (such as the ones below), but 
> wanted to first touch base with this group to gather firsthand 
> builder/rider experiences or possibly learn of other options.  I'm 
> also curious of any considerations pertaining to tire mounting/seating 
> issues.
>
>  
>
> Grand Bois - http://cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/336618/404875/list.html
>
> Pacenti PL23 - 
> http://www.bikelugs.com/store/index.php?strWebAction=item_detail&intItemID=398
>
> Soma Eldon - http://store.somafab.com/soelrim70.html
>
> Velo-Orange Raid/PBP/Diagonale - 
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/wheelsets-rims-hubs/rims.html
>
>  
>
> From this list, it is probably obvious I'm leaning towards a traditional 
> looking, non-anodized, non-machined, single/double eyelet, silver rim. 
>  Incidentally, I will be running 32 mm tires (Jack Brown Green’s, most 
> likely).  Thanks in advance.
>
>  
>
> michael z
>
>  
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: the precarious balance of rim development

2012-11-02 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt 
I missed this topic the first time around. I have a bike coming down the 
line and hope I have the patients or the timing is right to build up the 
rear with the forthcoming RivRim. The front is a cheapie pre-fab dynamo 
wheel I already bought. I'll see what happens as far as rim availability 
when the frame arrives and I get the other bits all ready to go. 

As far as building your own wheels... It can be rewarding. My advice would 
be that the first step be for you to read The Bicycle Wheel by Jobst 
Brandt. If 
after reading (or skimming) the book you'll know if you want to press 
forward to build your own wheels. I've built up maybe a dozen wheel sets 
over the last 20 years and refer to the words of Jobst every time. In 
addition to all sorts of wheel theory info, the book has step by step wheel 
building instructions with great hand drawn illustrations. 

I don't have a tension gauge so I reference an existing similarly 
configured wheel for tension. I've had 1 wheel come loose -- about a month 
into riding the wheel I noticed the rear felt odd. All the spokes/nipples 
had worked loose. I rode home, tightened it up and haven't had any issues 
in 2 years. On another occasion I was truing an existing wheel (non-eyelett 
rim) and I overtightened and pulled the nipple through the rim... oops. My 
point being that there is some risk but also great satisfaction riding 
wheels you built yourself. 

--Andy

 

On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:48:21 PM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Have a pair of Phil Wood 'Rivy' 36h hubs I intend to build up during the 
> winter months for my Rambouillet, but am undecided on what rims to go 
> with.  A while back, Grant posted an insightful piece regarding the 
> precarious balance of rim development (i.e., 'Light, Strong, and 
> Inexpensive: Pick Two').  He then mentioned rolling out a new ‘Stouty’ rim 
> of which I've been pestering Rick for an ETA for nearly a year now, but he 
> confessed they were waiting as well.  Complete speculation on my part, but 
> I presume the delay may have something to do with Velocity moving it's 
> production from Australia to Florida.  Given this, I may just go ahead and 
> choose from the current offering of rims (such as the ones below), but 
> wanted to first touch base with this group to gather firsthand 
> builder/rider experiences or possibly learn of other options.  I'm 
> also curious of any considerations pertaining to tire mounting/seating 
> issues.
>
>  
>
> Grand Bois - http://cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/336618/404875/list.html
>
> Pacenti PL23 - 
> http://www.bikelugs.com/store/index.php?strWebAction=item_detail&intItemID=398
>
> Soma Eldon - http://store.somafab.com/soelrim70.html
>
> Velo-Orange Raid/PBP/Diagonale - 
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/wheelsets-rims-hubs/rims.html
>
>  
>
> From this list, it is probably obvious I'm leaning towards a traditional 
> looking, non-anodized, non-machined, single/double eyelet, silver rim. 
>  Incidentally, I will be running 32 mm tires (Jack Brown Green’s, most 
> likely).  Thanks in advance.
>
>  
>
> michael z
>
>  
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: the precarious balance of rim development

2012-11-02 Thread Garth 

 I have two sets of Mavic A719/T519 and they're fine.  I went with them 
over the Velocity Dyad as the builder I use said he preferred to use the 
Mavic's over the Velocity. 

Non machined sidewalls?  Maybe that matters for some but I won't be wearing 
out any rims in my lifetime from braking.

Same with OCR rears in the hands of a professional builder it doesn't 
matter. 

To each our own :)

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[RBW] Re: the precarious balance of rim development

2012-11-02 Thread Mike Schiller 
The Soma's look like pinned rims ( which is fine). I wonder who makes them 
for them?  

Just an FYI but Compass Cycles stopped carrying the Grand Bois do to 
excessive rim depth. 

The Pacenti and H son+ look like the cream of the crop to me. Welded, wide 
and classy.



~mike




 
>
> Grand Bois - http://cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/336618/404875/list.html
>
> Pacenti PL23 - 
> http://www.bikelugs.com/store/index.php?strWebAction=item_detail&intItemID=398
>
> Soma Eldon - http://store.somafab.com/soelrim70.html
>
> Velo-Orange Raid/PBP/Diagonale - 
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/wheelsets-rims-hubs/rims.html
>
>  
>
> From this list, it is probably obvious I'm leaning towards a traditional 
> looking, non-anodized, non-machined, single/double eyelet, silver rim. 
>  Incidentally, I will be running 32 mm tires (Jack Brown Green’s, most 
> likely).  Thanks in advance.
>
>  
>
> michael z
>
>  
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: the precarious balance of rim development

2012-11-02 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA 
You may also want to consider the TB14 from H Son Plus - 
http://hplusson.com/products/TB14

I built up a set of these in Hard Ano a while ago and they are quite 
classic looking.


On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:48:21 PM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
>
> 
>
>  
>
> Grand Bois - http://cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/336618/404875/list.html
>
> Pacenti PL23 - 
> http://www.bikelugs.com/store/index.php?strWebAction=item_detail&intItemID=398
>
> Soma Eldon - http://store.somafab.com/soelrim70.html
>
> Velo-Orange Raid/PBP/Diagonale - 
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/wheelsets-rims-hubs/rims.html
>
>  
>
> From this list, it is probably obvious I'm leaning towards a traditional 
> looking, non-anodized, non-machined, single/double eyelet, silver rim. 
>  Incidentally, I will be running 32 mm tires (Jack Brown Green’s, most 
> likely).  Thanks in advance.
>
>

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