[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
I think all you guys have convinced me the mediums will be ok. I particularly appreciate learning about the difference in the fabrics of grey vs. olive. I'm going to get a grey pair and just pray that the crazy blue crotch is less noticeable than it appears in the photos because t my age no one is going to believe I'm a performer with Cirque du Soleil. Obviously this color scheme sprang from the same mind that conceived the orange rain pants - which would be ok, by the way, except that I don't have a red rubber nose to go with them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
I didn't like the grayish fabric all that well in the knickers I ued to have, so I passed them along to another rider. I have 2 pr of the original butternut and agree that they are lighter. Here in AL, it is warm most of the year and lighter is better. Less billowy would be nicer, but black undershorts keeps things decent in case of head winds. Riding with anything in the front pockets is a drag though, as the filled pockets hang down beneath the hem of the shorts. Perhaps the heavier fabric prevents this. The Boosuckers are less billowy, and more comfortable, but the bottom line is that I like both types that I have. From: Thomas Lynn Skean Subject: [RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants? There are at least two different fabrics with which the MUSA shorts/ knickers/pants have been made. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
There are at least two different fabrics with which the MUSA shorts/ knickers/pants have been made. The year-old butternut/olive shorts and pants I have are made of thin wispy nylon a la Ex Officio Amphi pants. The grey/blue pants and olive shorts I have are much more substantial; different enough that I wear the grey/blue pants down to about 40 degrees before I switch to wool-under-butternut/olive (down to about 20 degrees). Below 20 it's wool-under-grey/blue; maybe a lot of wool if it's way below 20! Grey/blue alone are good for rain down to 45-50, butternut/olive are really only good for 65+ rain. They're really different. In all of them, though, the crotch is that tough Taslan stuff, I think. The butternut/olive ones are billowy even on me (6', 250lb). The others are more normal. Billowy is fine for me, especially when it's 90+. No speed racer I! I'm sure they aren't the only reasonable clothes for cycling that exist. But I've been *very* happy riding in almost all MUSA/RBW almost all the time since I started biking as part of my commute. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Nov 12, 11:47 pm, beth h wrote: > I got a pair of the shorts some years ago, and I like them as summer > knockabout shorts AND as swim trunks (Sun damage requires I cover up > more than most swimsuits allow). Because I live in the rainy NW, I > never thought about buying the pants or knickers -- the fabric would > be too lightweight for most of my commuting, for three seasons of the > year. > Beth > > On Nov 11, 10:19 am, jim_OLP wrote: > > > > > I'm considering them ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
I got a pair of the shorts some years ago, and I like them as summer knockabout shorts AND as swim trunks (Sun damage requires I cover up more than most swimsuits allow). Because I live in the rainy NW, I never thought about buying the pants or knickers -- the fabric would be too lightweight for most of my commuting, for three seasons of the year. Beth On Nov 11, 10:19 am, jim_OLP wrote: > I'm considering them ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
'nother data point ... I'm 5' 7" and 125, well, more like 120 currently. I wear size small in the old brown version of MUSA pants and find them to be just right, with a fair amount of the elastic belt cut off. I use them very often for commuting when it gets down to the mid 50's, all the way down to single digits (with wool underneath). They're a little more flappy in the thigh area than my old Supplex wind pants from Performance. For "fast" rides or when it's breezy, I prefer the tighter cut, but for just riding around, the MUSAs are great. Has anybody else had their MUSA pants shrink? I'm certain that mine shrank a bit after the first wash/dry. They were a tad long when I first got them, now they're a tad short. Ted Durant Milwaukee, WI, USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
Hi Jim, I'm 6 foot tall and weigh 140 soaking wet so am pretty thin. I wear the MUSA long pants and they don't billow but lay flat in the front. The seat billows out a bit but this actually works best on the bike because you never feel constrained in the saddle. My wife complimented me on how the pants look and she'd be the first to criticise if she didn't like them. I bought the mediums and they work fine for me...I actually like the two-tone effect...distinctive but not too wierd for my tastes. On Nov 11, 10:19 am, jim_OLP wrote: > I'm considering them but I read one review saying they were billowy in > front, and I hate pants like that. I'm a thin guy and am so tired of > wearing the baggy stuff in stores today. I could maybe overlook the > weird blue crotch that looks like you just sat on something wet, but > if they're balloon-cut upstairs, that's a deal-breaker. Any thin guys > wearing these? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
Waist is not that much of an issue as the design incorporates a cinch belt (or whatever you call that belt in belt dealy) inside an elastic band. I am just under 6' with a 33 inch inseam. The length of the large is just right for me with the shoes I wear for touring. I am 165 and lose weight fast on tour, so the large are a bit baggy. No problem for me. As Anne notes, it is real easy to wear a pair of long wool base layer underneath that way. You are a lot farther south than I, so all that layering may not be as much an issue for you as it is for me. On Nov 12, 8:49 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Thanks. I want trim but not tight. I chose based on the inseam and waist > measurements given, so I suppose my question comes down to, how accurate are > those measurements? I guess I'll find out in a few days. > > It's just that I have never worn "small" before. > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:10 PM, PATRICK MOORE > > wrote: > > > I'm 5'10" honest, bare feet on cement, with a long torso, 30.5" inseam, > > 34" > > > waist; sitting, am as tall as my 6'1" Scandinavian bro in law, and I > > don't > > > like baggy. I just ordered Smalls. Did I do wrong? > > > They'll be snug, but maybe that's what you want. > > > -- > > -- Anne Paulson > > > He who wills the ends wills the means > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected] > (505) 227-0523- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Jude wrote:
>
> Just for reference. I'm thin - 5'8" 145lbs - and the small fit me
> just right.
Hmmm -- I'm 2" taller and 170; perhaps I'll be returning for a medium. We'll
see. Probably should have ordered by phone and not online. But then I gather
you like loose ...
> I decided on the small because riv listed them as "full
> cut" in the quad area. I've been riding more regularly and the legs
> seem more snug. I will consider a medium when I order the next pair.
>
> The pants feel great with only one layer (undies or woolies)
> underneath. With bike shorts they still fit well. With woolies and
> bike shorts underneath they just start to feel snug. They have been
> my first choice for about a year - they're so thin and "not there".
> Even if it's raining I'll wear them because they cling without being
> annoying and dry out quick. With woolies underneath you don't even
> notice the rain.
>
> The fabric has held up better than expected. The saddle has given
> back some of it's dye and natural oils. The discoloration is
> persisting between washes but I can't blame the pants. The amount of
> wear is much lower than the abuse given.
>
> The details are useful. Deep pockets, velcro to cinch the leg as
> knickers. Overall, highly recommended.
>
> -Jude
>
> P.S. - I was hoping the riv MUSA rain pants would give me a winter
> riding solution. I just can't get over the orange. I don't mind
> garish colors but I already wear a bright yellow raincoat for all
> weather. The clash between orange and yellow is just too much. When
> you ride your bike full time you have to wear your pants - to work,
> with friends, to dinner, art openings - they just don't work if
> they're orange. I'm already known as "the guy who wears strange bike
> clothes" - but ORANGE - my social life just can't take it.
>
> On Nov 11, 9:40 pm, "LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com"
> wrote:
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > I guess I fall into the thin category--6'1", 185 pounds--I really like
> > my MUSA pants and found that I had to buy a size larger than I'm
> > accustomed to so that the thighs weren't too tight.
> >
> > lyle
> >
> > On Nov 11, 10:19 am, jim_OLP wrote:
> >
> > > I'm considering them but I read one review saying they were billowy in
> > > front, and I hate pants like that. I'm a thin guy and am so tired of
> > > wearing the baggy stuff in stores today. I could maybe overlook the
> > > weird blue crotch that looks like you just sat on something wet, but
> > > if they're balloon-cut upstairs, that's a deal-breaker. Any thin guys
> > > wearing these?
> >
>
--
Patrick Moore
Albuquerque, NM
For professional resumes, contact
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[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
Thanks. I want trim but not tight. I chose based on the inseam and waist measurements given, so I suppose my question comes down to, how accurate are those measurements? I guess I'll find out in a few days. It's just that I have never worn "small" before. On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:10 PM, PATRICK MOORE > wrote: > > I'm 5'10" honest, bare feet on cement, with a long torso, 30.5" inseam, > 34" > > waist; sitting, am as tall as my 6'1" Scandinavian bro in law, and I > don't > > like baggy. I just ordered Smalls. Did I do wrong? > > They'll be snug, but maybe that's what you want. > > -- > -- Anne Paulson > > He who wills the ends wills the means > > > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected] (505) 227-0523 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
I have the shorts, knickers and pants and am very happy with them for touring. The shorts were great this past summer on some casual rides on very hot days. I wish the shorts were a tad longer and not quite as wide around the opening. I wear them with ExOfficio underwear which seems to be a good combo. I agree with others that a tad bit of lycra would be nice. --mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
I'm definitely not thin (6' about 233 right now). The XL pants fit
right. And can layer something underneath when it gets cold. For
example, the not so tights Rivendell sells.
Have one set of L sized shorts, butternut color. They are tight
around my thighs. I can wear them. But it's not a pretty sight.
My preference is for fairly baggy clothing.
As an aside, according to the body mass index, I'd have to drop down
below 180 to be considered "normal".
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Nov 11, 8:48 pm, Bill Connell wrote:
> I'm the same way - 6'3", about 210lbs, and i wish i'd gotten the XL;
> the large are a little more snug in the thigh than i'd like.
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:40 PM, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Jim,
>
> > I guess I fall into the thin category--6'1", 185 pounds--I really like
> > my MUSA pants and found that I had to buy a size larger than I'm
> > accustomed to so that the thighs weren't too tight.
>
> > lyle
>
> > On Nov 11, 10:19 am, jim_OLP wrote:
> >> I'm considering them but I read one review saying they were billowy in
> >> front, and I hate pants like that. I'm a thin guy and am so tired of
> >> wearing the baggy stuff in stores today. I could maybe overlook the
> >> weird blue crotch that looks like you just sat on something wet, but
> >> if they're balloon-cut upstairs, that's a deal-breaker. Any thin guys
> >> wearing these?
>
> --
> Bill Connell
> St. Paul, MN- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
Just for reference. I'm thin - 5'8" 145lbs - and the small fit me
just right. I decided on the small because riv listed them as "full
cut" in the quad area. I've been riding more regularly and the legs
seem more snug. I will consider a medium when I order the next pair.
The pants feel great with only one layer (undies or woolies)
underneath. With bike shorts they still fit well. With woolies and
bike shorts underneath they just start to feel snug. They have been
my first choice for about a year - they're so thin and "not there".
Even if it's raining I'll wear them because they cling without being
annoying and dry out quick. With woolies underneath you don't even
notice the rain.
The fabric has held up better than expected. The saddle has given
back some of it's dye and natural oils. The discoloration is
persisting between washes but I can't blame the pants. The amount of
wear is much lower than the abuse given.
The details are useful. Deep pockets, velcro to cinch the leg as
knickers. Overall, highly recommended.
-Jude
P.S. - I was hoping the riv MUSA rain pants would give me a winter
riding solution. I just can't get over the orange. I don't mind
garish colors but I already wear a bright yellow raincoat for all
weather. The clash between orange and yellow is just too much. When
you ride your bike full time you have to wear your pants - to work,
with friends, to dinner, art openings - they just don't work if
they're orange. I'm already known as "the guy who wears strange bike
clothes" - but ORANGE - my social life just can't take it.
On Nov 11, 9:40 pm, "LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com"
wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> I guess I fall into the thin category--6'1", 185 pounds--I really like
> my MUSA pants and found that I had to buy a size larger than I'm
> accustomed to so that the thighs weren't too tight.
>
> lyle
>
> On Nov 11, 10:19 am, jim_OLP wrote:
>
> > I'm considering them but I read one review saying they were billowy in
> > front, and I hate pants like that. I'm a thin guy and am so tired of
> > wearing the baggy stuff in stores today. I could maybe overlook the
> > weird blue crotch that looks like you just sat on something wet, but
> > if they're balloon-cut upstairs, that's a deal-breaker. Any thin guys
> > wearing these?
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[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:02 AM, cyclotourist wrote: > I wish the MUSA pants/shorts/K-nicks had a touch of lyrcra or similar > stretchy material. That extra little bit of give is the only thing they're > missing. > I can see a tiny bit of stretch being nice, yes. I also wish the length was selectable independent of waist. I have to roll mine a bit and if I lose too much weight I'll have to buy smaller ones. :) -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
I wish the MUSA pants/shorts/K-nicks had a touch of lyrcra or similar stretchy material. That extra little bit of give is the only thing they're missing. DE On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:10 PM, PATRICK MOORE > wrote: > > I'm 5'10" honest, bare feet on cement, with a long torso, 30.5" inseam, > 34" > > waist; sitting, am as tall as my 6'1" Scandinavian bro in law, and I > don't > > like baggy. I just ordered Smalls. Did I do wrong? > > They'll be snug, but maybe that's what you want. > > -- > -- Anne Paulson > > He who wills the ends wills the means > > > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:10 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I'm 5'10" honest, bare feet on cement, with a long torso, 30.5" inseam, 34" > waist; sitting, am as tall as my 6'1" Scandinavian bro in law, and I don't > like baggy. I just ordered Smalls. Did I do wrong? They'll be snug, but maybe that's what you want. -- -- Anne Paulson He who wills the ends wills the means --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:45 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > I only use the MUSA on tours. They are perfect for that. > Comfortable, pack small and well, and clean up easily. When it is > cold I can easily wear a long legged base layer under them. When it > is warm out, the loose fit allows plenty of ventilation. > I too like the MUSA pants for tours. I took them on my last tour, Eugene Oregon to San Jose CA by way of the Pacific Coast, in late September/early October. On cool mornings I would wear them over my shorts, taking them off as the day warmed up. In the evening, I'd wear them around the campground. One night the temperature dipped down to the 30's, brr. I was happy that my wool longies (which I wear for PJs) fit comfortably under the MUSA pants that chilly morning. -- -- Anne Paulson He who wills the ends wills the means --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
I'm 5'10" honest, bare feet on cement, with a long torso, 30.5" inseam, 34" waist; sitting, am as tall as my 6'1" Scandinavian bro in law, and I don't like baggy. I just ordered Smalls. Did I do wrong? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
I'm the same way - 6'3", about 210lbs, and i wish i'd gotten the XL;
the large are a little more snug in the thigh than i'd like.
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:40 PM, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com
wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> I guess I fall into the thin category--6'1", 185 pounds--I really like
> my MUSA pants and found that I had to buy a size larger than I'm
> accustomed to so that the thighs weren't too tight.
>
> lyle
>
> On Nov 11, 10:19 am, jim_OLP wrote:
>> I'm considering them but I read one review saying they were billowy in
>> front, and I hate pants like that. I'm a thin guy and am so tired of
>> wearing the baggy stuff in stores today. I could maybe overlook the
>> weird blue crotch that looks like you just sat on something wet, but
>> if they're balloon-cut upstairs, that's a deal-breaker. Any thin guys
>> wearing these?
> >
>
--
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St. Paul, MN
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[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
Hi Jim, I guess I fall into the thin category--6'1", 185 pounds--I really like my MUSA pants and found that I had to buy a size larger than I'm accustomed to so that the thighs weren't too tight. lyle On Nov 11, 10:19 am, jim_OLP wrote: > I'm considering them but I read one review saying they were billowy in > front, and I hate pants like that. I'm a thin guy and am so tired of > wearing the baggy stuff in stores today. I could maybe overlook the > weird blue crotch that looks like you just sat on something wet, but > if they're balloon-cut upstairs, that's a deal-breaker. Any thin guys > wearing these? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
I am certainly thin. Sounds as though my sartorial preferences may be opposite yours, however. I cannot stand, and do not wear skin tight riding garments. At least with pants and shorts I find regular fit can chaffe. So I prefer to wear looser pants and shorts. I only use the MUSA on tours. They are perfect for that. Comfortable, pack small and well, and clean up easily. When it is cold I can easily wear a long legged base layer under them. When it is warm out, the loose fit allows plenty of ventilation. On Nov 11, 12:19 pm, jim_OLP wrote: > I'm considering them but I read one review saying they were billowy in > front, and I hate pants like that. I'm a thin guy and am so tired of > wearing the baggy stuff in stores today. I could maybe overlook the > weird blue crotch that looks like you just sat on something wet, but > if they're balloon-cut upstairs, that's a deal-breaker. Any thin guys > wearing these? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: who has MUSA pants?
Gosh, now I feel weird about the pants I wear almost every day. I'm thin, average height. MUSA pants fit just right, not to tight or billowy. The velcro cuffs are key. Great pants. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
