Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

2013-01-10 Thread Jim M.
On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 12:57:00 PM UTC-8, El Sapo wrote:

> I like the bare metal look alot. Is that clear paint or clear powder over 
> the bare metal? Is there any color diference at the lugs? Can you see the 
> material used to connect the tubes to the lugs? 
>  
> I also wonder if you've had any issues with rust? 
>

My frame looks a lot like the close-ups that are on Cyclofiend's website. 
There is some patina, but I'm not concerned about it. If it looks like it's 
getting too bad, I'll get the frame re-finished, probably with clear again. 

jim m
wc ca 

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RE: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

2013-01-10 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I had a clearcoat (Riv called it Raw Clear Powdercoat) over bare metal Bombadil 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/4249456177/in/set-72157624552118742/ 
, which has now been repainted 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/4815169169/in/set-72157624552118742/ 
, as it was showing some rust under the clear.  But I would note two things: 
(i) my bike was being stored within 30 feet of a salt water back bay, and you 
can't get a much worse environment for a steel frame than that, regardless of 
whether it's painted, color powdered or clearcoated; and (ii) the rust didn't 
look bad, in fact it was pretty cool - I just got a little panicky, probably 
because it was my first foray into the higher priced steel frames, and I didn't 
want to take a risk.  In retrospect, I wish I'd left it - it looked great.



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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

Here are some close images of the clear powder coat on an early Bombadil 
prototype -

http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc452-bombadilproto0208.html

GP's early Hilsen proto also had a similar finish -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/507828696/

Most of the clear powder frames I've seen have looked pretty close to those.

It is clear powder coat.  There have been some reports (archives?) of surface 
rust showing up under the powder coat.

Clear coat as used over paint would be  much, much worse.  I've seen a few of 
those and they are much more porous and rust within a short period.

- J

On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 12:57:00 PM UTC-8, El Sapo wrote:
I like the bare metal look alot. Is that clear paint or clear powder over the 
bare metal? Is there any color diference at the lugs? Can you see the material 
used to connect the tubes to the lugs? I've seen bare metal fillet brazed bikes 
and the color difference between the steel tubes and the "gold" brazed areas 
looks pretty cool.

I also wonder if you've had any issues with rust? I'm in the Seems like I read 
something from Grant where he said he wasn't going to send out bare metal 
frames because the finish wasn't holding up.


I'm partial to clear coat over bare metal:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/8155803596/in/photostream

But purple and orange sound good too.

jim m
wc ca
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Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

2013-01-10 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Here are some close images of the clear powder coat on an early Bombadil 
prototype - 

http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc452-bombadilproto0208.html

GP's early Hilsen proto also had a similar finish - 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/507828696/

Most of the clear powder frames I've seen have looked pretty close to 
those.  

It is clear powder coat.  There have been some reports (archives?) of 
surface rust showing up under the powder coat. 

Clear coat as used over paint would be  much, much worse.  I've seen a few 
of those and they are much more porous and rust within a short period.

- J

On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 12:57:00 PM UTC-8, El Sapo wrote:
>
> I like the bare metal look alot. Is that clear paint or clear powder over 
> the bare metal? Is there any color diference at the lugs? Can you see the 
> material used to connect the tubes to the lugs? I've seen bare metal fillet 
> brazed bikes and the color difference between the steel tubes and the 
> "gold" brazed areas looks pretty cool. 
>  
> I also wonder if you've had any issues with rust? I'm in the Seems like I 
> read something from Grant where he said he wasn't going to send out bare 
> metal frames because the finish wasn't holding up. 
>  
>
> I'm partial to clear coat over bare metal: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/8155803596/in/photostream 
>
> But purple and orange sound good too. 
>
> jim m 
> wc ca 
>

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Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

2013-01-10 Thread El Sapo
I like the bare metal look alot. Is that clear paint or clear powder over 
the bare metal? Is there any color diference at the lugs? Can you see the 
material used to connect the tubes to the lugs? I've seen bare metal fillet 
brazed bikes and the color difference between the steel tubes and the 
"gold" brazed areas looks pretty cool. 
 
I also wonder if you've had any issues with rust? I'm in the Seems like I 
read something from Grant where he said he wasn't going to send out bare 
metal frames because the finish wasn't holding up. 
 

I'm partial to clear coat over bare metal: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/8155803596/in/photostream 

But purple and orange sound good too. 

jim m 
wc ca 

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Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

2013-01-09 Thread Christopher Murray
I really like the Hunqa green. I had my SimpleOne painted that color. It is 
still in the box as I am trying to get the rest of the parts together and find 
the time to build it. I peek inside every so often and it is just amazing. 
Can't go wrong with one of the stock colors- Riv chooses great colors! 

Cheers! 
cm

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Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

2013-01-09 Thread Kelly
William, sweet bike!   So do you notice a difference in the power coat 
verse wet paint? 



On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 12:10:53 AM UTC-6, William wrote:
>
> The nice orange double TT one is mine.  Powder coat with matching Bullmoose
>
> On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 8:14:31 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:
>>
>> Here's a nice orange Bomba: 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/7150235995/in/photostream/ 
>>
>> And a nice orange double TT Bomba: 
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/4779108114/in/faves-20986098@N04/ 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

2013-01-08 Thread William
The nice orange double TT one is mine.  Powder coat with matching Bullmoose

On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 8:14:31 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:
>
> Here's a nice orange Bomba: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/7150235995/in/photostream/ 
>
> And a nice orange double TT Bomba: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/4779108114/in/faves-20986098@N04/ 
>

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Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

2013-01-08 Thread Garth


I knew I had seen a Burnt Orange one online, and I found it !  Imron 
#44471, Burnt Orange Metallic 
Nice !

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11828914@N07/4039900736/in/photostream/

and a Saluki that appears the same color : 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/61645455@N03/5611410003/in/photostream/

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Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

2013-01-08 Thread Shaun Meehan
Orange. Absolutely.

Shaun "still-waiting-for-Grandpa's-Pine-Tar-Brown" Meehan

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Peter M  wrote:

> So my Bombadil is taking a short trip over to the Color Factory in
> Waretown. Even though thier prices seem scarily low Bruce was awesome
> on the phone so I am gonna take the leap soon. The only issue is I
> have never gotten a re-spray and I am having angina over which color
> is most appropriate for the twin TT bomba. I wanted something
> metallic, maybe a dark purple or a soft orange, as you can see I am
> worlds apart even in my own mind. Anyone have any pics of thier
> bombadil they can share so I can play off some ideas?
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Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

2013-01-08 Thread Jim Mather
Here's a nice orange Bomba:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/7150235995/in/photostream/

And a nice orange double TT Bomba:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/4779108114/in/faves-20986098@N04/

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Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

2013-01-08 Thread James Warren

Copy Amit's grey with kidney bean headtube and panels. Ya know, that classic 
scheme used on the Hunqapillar. It looks really good with twin TT's.


On Jan 8, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Peter M wrote:

> So my Bombadil is taking a short trip over to the Color Factory in
> Waretown. Even though thier prices seem scarily low Bruce was awesome
> on the phone so I am gonna take the leap soon. The only issue is I
> have never gotten a re-spray and I am having angina over which color
> is most appropriate for the twin TT bomba. I wanted something
> metallic, maybe a dark purple or a soft orange, as you can see I am
> worlds apart even in my own mind. Anyone have any pics of thier
> bombadil they can share so I can play off some ideas?
> 
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Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

2013-01-08 Thread Jim Mather
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Peter M  wrote:
> Anyone have any pics of thier
> bombadil they can share so I can play off some ideas?
>


I'm partial to clear coat over bare metal:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/8155803596/in/photostream

But purple and orange sound good too.

jim m
wc ca

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