Re: [RBW] Crash Stories

2020-04-20 Thread dstein 
I think Philip's takes the cake, yikes.

I went over the handlebars going downhill last year (Tunnel Rd in Oakland 
for you Bay Area folks), not sure what happened but the caliper brakes on 
my Frank Jones Sr. got caught in the spokes of the front wheel and locked 
it, face planted the pavement, wasn't going super fast, but easily 
15-20mph, I had to brake hard the turn before to avoid a squirrel so maybe 
something shook loose then. Ended up with 8 stitches on my chin and 6 on my 
upper lip that scarred pretty bad, I'll pretty much always have a beard 
now, I was just thinking of shaving it off right before the accident. Ate 
through a straw for 2 weeks my mouth was so busted (miraculously did not 
even chip a tooth!). The whole thing shook me up pretty bad, I'm just now 
starting to ride a little bit again, but it'll never be like before. 
Previous accident was a skid and sideways fall, also on pavement, ended up 
with a grapefruit size hematoma that took me out of commission for 2 weeks 
as well.  

I'm amazed at the number of people that will pass you on the side of the 
road all bloodied up (it was pretty gnarly) and barely slow down, 
continuing to ride. I'd say 10+ people rode right on by. One guy said 'oh, 
that will hurt, you'll never be the same', and kept riding. Luckily someone 
did stop and hang out with me until my wife came. Who knows, maybe I would 
have been one of those non stopping people if the situation was reversed, 
not in the future though that's for sure.

Stay safe out there folks. Check your brakes every now and then, make sure 
they're on there tight. And don't go too fast. 

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Re: [RBW] Crash Stories

2020-04-20 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
I have a crash story from last week - not mine. I think this is a good thread 
to resurrect - I certainly learned some valuable lessons from your stories.

My friend, D, is a triathlete and has a lot of triathlete friends. They love to 
get their road bikes out and ride in groups. The Las Vegas Strip is a ghost 
town right now, and folks are taking their bikes and riding there. Last week, 
my friend was meeting a couple to do this very thing. When they were late, D 
didn’t really worry. They were arriving by bike, and maybe they were delayed. 
But the D’s phone rang, and the wife said there had been a crash and an 
ambulance was on the way. 

Here’s what happened.

The husband was clipped in and stood up on his pedals. He was beginning a 
descent, and when he stood, his right foot came unclipped and his foot got 
caught in the spokes. He reportedly flipped several times and was unable to 
stand at the scene. After a lot of bungling on the part of a Vegas hospital 
(the joke here is “Where do you go for medical care in Las Vegas? McCarran 
Airport.”) he was discovered to have: a dislocated right hip with a possible 
hairline fracture, a broken scapula, numerous pelvic fractures and a TON of 
road rash on his back. He’s had two surgeries already and will be bedridden for 
6 weeks. He faces a long road of PT and OT for his recovery. 

His story has haunted me ever since I heard.

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Re: [RBW] Crash Stories

2020-03-27 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
You all need one of these:


I wore one of these back in the day … but without a ponytail.

--Eric Norris
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> On Mar 27, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
> I could see The Ponytail Helmet (TM) as having a vertical opening, about two 
> inches wide, going from the top of head to top of neck, so you could 
> accommodate any placement of ponytail, except for a side-pony (hey, perhaps a 
> second product idea?).  Me?--I have short curly hair, so I'm going with a 
> hairmet.
> 
> On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 12:49:19 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
> John, this was worth the watch - I laughed out loud on my walk like a fool. 😂 
> 
> I think The Ponytail Helmet (TM) is more aesthetically appealing, however. 
> And no prescription necessary. 🤣🤣🤣 
> 
> Sent from my iPad 
> 
> > On Mar 27, 2020, at 9:36 AM, Surlyprof > wrote: 
> > 
> > Leah, 
> > 
> > Your video reminded me of the “hairmet” on The TV show Scrubs.  
> > https://youtu.be/OL0GkcO05JE  
> > 
> > John 
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Re: [RBW] Crash Stories

2020-03-20 Thread Patrick Moore 
Good for you, Jim, especially as you make even me look young (just
turning 65). But really, cycling **statistically** is not that
dangerous, especially for experienced, cautious, adult cyclists. And
of course, adding in the benefits to health from regular, gentle
exercise, compared to 12 hours a day in a barcalounger, it's
practically a sin not to bicycle.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:21 PM Jim Salinas  wrote:
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> I am 71 yrs old and live in a gated community for seniors north of Dallas. I 
> ride 3 times a week with a small group...we go 20 to 30 miles on each ride. I 
> do the occasional solo ride that averages 10 miles. A neighbor once waved me 
> down as I was leaving on my bike, and said, "Jim, I hate to see you riding 
> that bikeyou are going to get killed!" I said,"do you know what the most 
> dangerous activity is within Heritage Ranch? (Not a day goes by without 
> hearing paramedic sirens coming through the front gate) My neighbor said, 
> "what's that?" I replied,"laying in a recliner day after day, watching cable 
> news!"
> I am not a lean and mean cyclist. I am 6' tall and weigh 220 pounds. I would 
> probably weigh 275 pounds or more without bicycling. I hate other types of 
> exercise because they are so boring. Like Garth...I prefer to be outside.
> I have 3 Rivendells (Waterford Hilsen, Cheviot, and Roadini). Everytime I get 
> on one, I think to myself, "this is my favorite one!" I feel young again when 
> I'm riding a bike. Try to put a price on that! Bicycling is not just 
> exercise...it is also mentally refreshing.
> My point is, yes...bicycling is dangerous, as is everything else. We just 
> have to be as careful as we can be, but look at the big quality of life 
> picture.
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Re: [RBW] Crash Stories

2020-03-20 Thread Fullylugged 
My only cycling injury was a crash casued by a dog racing out silently from 
under a hedge at right angle to my direction of travel.  I picked him up to 
late to avoid and he got in front of my front wheel. I hit him and he scurried 
away, and I hit the asphalt gaining a hip pointer for myself. No cell coverage, 
solo riding, and the leg with the impact didn't work. I used the bike as a 
crutch to get upright after checking for blood & breaks, and dipped it low to 
get my foot over the TT. Then I clipped the good foot in and one legged it 7 
miles back to the car. Still my proudest achievement on a bike!. I was afraid 
to call my wife and tell her I'd been hurt so I waited till I made it home and 
could not get OUT of the car to call her from the garage. She was an angel and 
helped without recrimination.   Since then I have had a couple other dog or 
other crash issues but I have tucked and rolled and bounced up un damaged.

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Re: [RBW] Crash Stories

2020-03-20 Thread RichS 
Jim:

Well said! Couldn't agree more. I'm 70 and the reply you gave to your 
neighbor was perfect in my book.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:21:58 AM UTC-4, Jim Salinas wrote:
>
> I am 71 yrs old and live in a gated community for seniors north of Dallas. 
> I ride 3 times a week with a small group...we go 20 to 30 miles on each 
> ride. I do the occasional solo ride that averages 10 miles. A neighbor once 
> waved me down as I was leaving on my bike, and said, "Jim, I hate to see 
> you riding that bikeyou are going to get killed!" I said,"do you know 
> what the most dangerous activity is within Heritage Ranch? (Not a day goes 
> by without hearing paramedic sirens coming through the front gate) My 
> neighbor said, "what's that?" I replied,"laying in a recliner day after 
> day, watching cable news!" 
> I am not a lean and mean cyclist. I am 6' tall and weigh 220 pounds. I 
> would probably weigh 275 pounds or more without bicycling. I hate other 
> types of exercise because they are so boring. Like Garth...I prefer to be 
> outside. 
> I have 3 Rivendells (Waterford Hilsen, Cheviot, and Roadini). Everytime I 
> get on one, I think to myself, "this is my favorite one!" I feel young 
> again when I'm riding a bike. Try to put a price on that! Bicycling is not 
> just exercise...it is also mentally refreshing. 
> My point is, yes...bicycling is dangerous, as is everything else. We just 
> have to be as careful as we can be, but look at the big quality of life 
> picture.

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Re: [RBW] Crash Stories

2020-03-19 Thread Jim Salinas 
I am 71 yrs old and live in a gated community for seniors north of Dallas. I 
ride 3 times a week with a small group...we go 20 to 30 miles on each ride. I 
do the occasional solo ride that averages 10 miles. A neighbor once waved me 
down as I was leaving on my bike, and said, "Jim, I hate to see you riding that 
bikeyou are going to get killed!" I said,"do you know what the most 
dangerous activity is within Heritage Ranch? (Not a day goes by without hearing 
paramedic sirens coming through the front gate) My neighbor said, "what's 
that?" I replied,"laying in a recliner day after day, watching cable news!"
I am not a lean and mean cyclist. I am 6' tall and weigh 220 pounds. I would 
probably weigh 275 pounds or more without bicycling. I hate other types of 
exercise because they are so boring. Like Garth...I prefer to be outside. 
I have 3 Rivendells (Waterford Hilsen, Cheviot, and Roadini). Everytime I get 
on one, I think to myself, "this is my favorite one!" I feel young again when 
I'm riding a bike. Try to put a price on that! Bicycling is not just 
exercise...it is also mentally refreshing. 
My point is, yes...bicycling is dangerous, as is everything else. We just have 
to be as careful as we can be, but look at the big quality of life picture.

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Re: [RBW] Crash Stories

2020-03-18 Thread Eric Floden 
I too learned to practice falling from age 10-up (IIRC inspired by cub
leader), and that has really helped me avoid injury in countless bicycle,
motorbike, and ski crashes over the years...

My best non-crash was riding at local market area (Granville Island) with
old rail tracks still in place. One wet day, I was riding my Fargo where
the tracks were parallel to the direction of travel, and tried to ease
across these tracks. Something did not work as hoped, and the front wheel
must have "tripped " on the rail, causing me to do a 180. I ended up still
right-side up but facing the opposite direction I had just come from!

Happily, no motor vehicles were nearby..

Phew,

EricF
Van BC

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Re: [RBW] Crash Stories

2020-03-18 Thread Steve Palincsar 
You don't get to choose collar bones, but they do tend to choose 
themselves a lot.


Still, if you can manage it, the best thing is to not crash at all.  The 
point of my sending photographs along with descriptions of the crashes 
at those places has been to make explicit the little-noticed dangers 
that have brought others to grief in the hope that you can, forearmed 
with knowledge, avoid experiencing them yourself.



On 3/18/20 1:10 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

Oh my gosh, Philip. You made it all the way home and nearly died in your 
driveway.

Also, I’m shocked at how many of you have flown over your handlebars. And that 
you seem to have escaped broken ribs and necks. I now think about your stories 
on my rides and am imagining all the ways I might also go over the bars. I 
morbidly wonder which bones would be the best ones to break and have the least 
impact on my life. I wonder if collarbones are the obvious choice. I don’t want 
to be on crutches, and so much can go wrong with hands, I really don’t want 
anything facial, maybe a couple of ribs wouldn’t be the worst, no surgery, and 
all...now this is what I think about. 😜


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