Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-16 Thread Jeremy Till
Whoops, should have read the whole thread before replying.  Others got it 
before me.  Sorry!

On Friday, November 16, 2012 9:02:16 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> I've done the same thing as Kevin, so hopefully i can elucidate.  PB tail 
> light mounts have three parts: the light with attached belt clip, a 
> receiver clip which engages the belt clip and acts as a quick release 
> mechanism, and the clamping ring.  Since they ship with both seatpost and 
> seatstay sized clamping rings, the receiver clip can be removed from the 
> clamping ring to switch rings.  You can just bolt this receiver clip to 
> whatever eyelet is handy/appropriate.  I use the upper rack mountings on a 
> bike with no rear rack.  
>
> On the product page for the PB mounts you can see that the clip is 
> attached to the larger of the two clamping rings here:
>
> http://ecom1.planetbike.com/3107.html 
>
> On Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:26:40 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Kevin -- I assume you are talking about the PB Superflash? I don't follow 
>> your description -- can you explain further? You say remove the "ring" 
>> which, I take it, means the clamp meant for the seatpost. That leaves you 
>> with the light and the attached clip. How does this clip bolt to a braze on?
>>
>> I've thought of bolting a blinkie to dropout-area brazeons, but haven't 
>> quite figured out how to do that.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Kevin Mulcahy  wrote:
>>
>>> Remove the "ring" portion and hardware of the PB mount and just bolt the 
>>> clip directly to any M5 braze-on. I've used this method on seatstay rack 
>>> mounts and on dropout mounts with success.
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>> Chicago, IL
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Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-16 Thread Jeremy Till
I've done the same thing as Kevin, so hopefully i can elucidate.  PB tail 
light mounts have three parts: the light with attached belt clip, a 
receiver clip which engages the belt clip and acts as a quick release 
mechanism, and the clamping ring.  Since they ship with both seatpost and 
seatstay sized clamping rings, the receiver clip can be removed from the 
clamping ring to switch rings.  You can just bolt this receiver clip to 
whatever eyelet is handy/appropriate.  I use the upper rack mountings on a 
bike with no rear rack.  

On the product page for the PB mounts you can see that the clip is attached 
to the larger of the two clamping rings here:

http://ecom1.planetbike.com/3107.html 

On Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:26:40 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Kevin -- I assume you are talking about the PB Superflash? I don't follow 
> your description -- can you explain further? You say remove the "ring" 
> which, I take it, means the clamp meant for the seatpost. That leaves you 
> with the light and the attached clip. How does this clip bolt to a braze on?
>
> I've thought of bolting a blinkie to dropout-area brazeons, but haven't 
> quite figured out how to do that.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Kevin Mulcahy 
> > wrote:
>
>> Remove the "ring" portion and hardware of the PB mount and just bolt the 
>> clip directly to any M5 braze-on. I've used this method on seatstay rack 
>> mounts and on dropout mounts with success.
>>
>> Kevin
>> Chicago, IL
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Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-15 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Patrick,
If you take the "clip" part off of the clamp, thread a longer bolt through 
it and into your rack braze on. Here's a pic (not from me):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/58781331@N07/7863634762/in/photostream/

good luck, shoji


On Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:26:40 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Kevin -- I assume you are talking about the PB Superflash? I don't follow 
> your description -- can you explain further? You say remove the "ring" 
> which, I take it, means the clamp meant for the seatpost. That leaves you 
> with the light and the attached clip. How does this clip bolt to a braze on?
>
> I've thought of bolting a blinkie to dropout-area brazeons, but haven't 
> quite figured out how to do that.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Kevin Mulcahy 
> > wrote:
>
>> Remove the "ring" portion and hardware of the PB mount and just bolt the 
>> clip directly to any M5 braze-on. I've used this method on seatstay rack 
>> mounts and on dropout mounts with success.
>>
>> Kevin
>> Chicago, IL
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Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-15 Thread Kerry Kunsman
Due to the nature of the LED Blinkies, to be very bright without 
using a lot of energy, they need to be focused in a rather tight beam 
angle.  This means for the blinkie to be effective they need to be 
carefully aimed at what you want to see them.  That being said, LED 
Blinkies should be rigidly mounted on the seatpost, seatstay, 
chainstay, or the rear of your rack.  Then make sure they are aimed 
so they are pointed back at the drivers.  I've seen many backpack 
mounted blinkies that the rider doesn't need to worry about any 
planes landing on them, but you have to be right on top of them 
before you see it from a ground level view.  :-)


Kerry Kunsman
San Diego, CA

At 11:10 AM 11/14/2012, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
I've asked this before to no response, but from the scuttlebutt 
there must be answers out there onlist. I've tried clipping blinkies 
of all sorts (including my most recent ones whose maker and model I 
forget, but that are even brighter than the PB Blaze 1/2W) and each 
time I decide that the visible effect is too compromised the 
less-than-optimum and uncontrollable viewing angle caused by the 
floppiness of the strap, flap, and by variations in flap angle due 
to load or lack thereof. When I tried this new blinkie recently on 
the unladen Sackville, it ended up pointing down at about ~35-40 
degrees, so that the effect was considerably diminished over a fixed 
mounting keeping the lens at slightly more than 90* to the road. 
Again, a strobe works, but they also eat batteries too fast.


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Re: Re: Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-15 Thread Joan Oppel
The clip on the back of the light is "clipped" to the flap of the saddlebag.Joan   On 11/15/12, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 16:28 -0600, Joan Oppel wrote:> Patrick - my small Carradice saddle bag has no "loop" attachment.>  Here's how I attach a clip blinky:>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/30856149@N04/8189473050/in/photostream I see it's there, but what's holding it on?-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To post to this group, send email to [email protected] unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



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Re: Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 16:28 -0600, Joan Oppel wrote:
> Patrick - my small Carradice saddle bag has no "loop" attachment.
>  Here's how I attach a clip blinky:
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/30856149@N04/8189473050/in/photostream 


I see it's there, but what's holding it on?



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Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-15 Thread campyonlyguy
You might need to head to the hardware store to find a short (1/4" - 1/2") 
plastic sleeve spacer to go between the light and the braze-on. I've mounted 
lights to braze-ons, and they sometimes hit the stay, necessitating a spacer to 
move the light outboard.

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On Nov 15, 2012, at 1:44 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> It looks so easy when you explain it! Thanks. Yes, I get it now.
> 
> Actually tried it on my left rear dropout brazeon but wouldn't quite work -- 
> must see what I can hack.
> 
> Patrick "dumb, dumb dumb dumb, Dumb!" Moore
> 
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:22 PM, William  wrote:
> see this light?
> 
> 
> 
> See the screw?  Unscrew the screw.  Set the clamp aside.  Screw the screw 
> into your braze on.  You can still unclip the light from the clip.  The clip 
> is screwed into your braze on.  
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:26:40 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
> Kevin -- I assume you are talking about the PB Superflash? I don't follow 
> your description -- can you explain further? You say remove the "ring" which, 
> I take it, means the clamp meant for the seatpost. That leaves you with the 
> light and the attached clip. How does this clip bolt to a braze on?
> 
> I've thought of bolting a blinkie to dropout-area brazeons, but haven't quite 
> figured out how to do that.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Kevin Mulcahy  wrote:
> Remove the "ring" portion and hardware of the PB mount and just bolt the clip 
> directly to any M5 braze-on. I've used this method on seatstay rack mounts 
> and on dropout mounts with success.
> 
> Kevin
> Chicago, IL
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Re: Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-15 Thread Joan Oppel
Patrick - my small Carradice saddle bag has no "loop" attachment.  Here's how I attach a clip blinky: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30856149@N04/8189473050/in/photostream I hope that helps or gives you an idea - Joan



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Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
It looks so easy when you explain it! Thanks. Yes, I get it now.

Actually tried it on my left rear dropout brazeon but wouldn't quite work
-- must see what I can hack.

Patrick "dumb, dumb dumb dumb, Dumb!" Moore

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:22 PM, William  wrote:

> see this light?
>
> 
>
> See the screw?  Unscrew the screw.  Set the clamp aside.  Screw the screw
> into your braze on.  You can still unclip the light from the clip.  The
> clip is screwed into your braze on.
>
>
> On Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:26:40 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Kevin -- I assume you are talking about the PB Superflash? I don't follow
>> your description -- can you explain further? You say remove the "ring"
>> which, I take it, means the clamp meant for the seatpost. That leaves you
>> with the light and the attached clip. How does this clip bolt to a braze on?
>>
>> I've thought of bolting a blinkie to dropout-area brazeons, but haven't
>> quite figured out how to do that.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Kevin Mulcahy  wrote:
>>
>>> Remove the "ring" portion and hardware of the PB mount and just bolt the
>>> clip directly to any M5 braze-on. I've used this method on seatstay rack
>>> mounts and on dropout mounts with success.
>>>
>>> Kevin
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Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-15 Thread René Sterental
Smart idea! I like it.


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Kevin Mulcahy  wrote:

> William has it basically right. Thank you.
>
>  Just use an longer M5 sized bolt instead of the smaller one that's in the
> clamp.
>
>
> Kevin
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Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-15 Thread Kevin Mulcahy
William has it basically right. Thank you. 

 Just use an longer M5 sized bolt instead of the smaller one that's in the 
clamp.

Kevin
Chicago, IL

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Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-15 Thread William
see this light?



See the screw?  Unscrew the screw.  Set the clamp aside.  Screw the screw 
into your braze on.  You can still unclip the light from the clip.  The 
clip is screwed into your braze on.  


On Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:26:40 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Kevin -- I assume you are talking about the PB Superflash? I don't follow 
> your description -- can you explain further? You say remove the "ring" 
> which, I take it, means the clamp meant for the seatpost. That leaves you 
> with the light and the attached clip. How does this clip bolt to a braze on?
>
> I've thought of bolting a blinkie to dropout-area brazeons, but haven't 
> quite figured out how to do that.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Kevin Mulcahy 
> > wrote:
>
>> Remove the "ring" portion and hardware of the PB mount and just bolt the 
>> clip directly to any M5 braze-on. I've used this method on seatstay rack 
>> mounts and on dropout mounts with success.
>>
>> Kevin
>> Chicago, IL
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Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Kevin -- I assume you are talking about the PB Superflash? I don't follow
your description -- can you explain further? You say remove the "ring"
which, I take it, means the clamp meant for the seatpost. That leaves you
with the light and the attached clip. How does this clip bolt to a braze on?

I've thought of bolting a blinkie to dropout-area brazeons, but haven't
quite figured out how to do that.

Thanks.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Kevin Mulcahy  wrote:

> Remove the "ring" portion and hardware of the PB mount and just bolt the
> clip directly to any M5 braze-on. I've used this method on seatstay rack
> mounts and on dropout mounts with success.
>
> Kevin
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Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-15 Thread Kevin Mulcahy
Remove the "ring" portion and hardware of the PB mount and just bolt the clip 
directly to any M5 braze-on. I've used this method on seatstay rack mounts and 
on dropout mounts with success. 

Kevin 
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Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-14 Thread René Sterental
Patrick,

I've seen a number of rear lights that come with adapters to put on the
seat post (not feasible for you) but also on the narrower seat stays. That
should be an option you could explore.

René

On Wednesday, November 14, 2012, PATRICK MOORE wrote:

> Thanks, Rene. Fender would do it, but I don't have fenders on this bike --
> not sure if I will ever add them. No helmet either, alas. I've thought of
> clipping a blinkie to the Sam Browne or the belt of the Riv Refl Triangle
> -- must investigate that, but don't know how that would orient the rear
> light when I am in the riding position.
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:50 PM, René Sterental 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> I place my main rear lights on the rear rack and on the rear fender and
>> have two automatic senso lights that turn on when it's dark and the bike
>> moves; coupled with a front dynamo senso light (the rear are battery
>> operated) I no longer have to remember to turn them on or off.
>> Additionally, I'll place a third rear light on my helmet (Specialized
>> Street Smart) as it is equipped to do just that and which I do have to
>> remember to turn on/off manually. A saddlebag mounted rear light is the
>> very last choice for me.
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 14, 2012, Jim Mather wrote:
>>
>>> I use one of these on the seat stay. I think it's quite visible, not
>>> very expensive, and I haven't been hit yet.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.serfas.com/products/view/164/referer:products%7Cindex%7Clights%7Ctail-lights
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:10 AM, PATRICK MOORE 
>>> wrote:
>>> > I've asked this before to no response, but from the scuttlebutt there
>>> must
>>> > be answers out there onlist.
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Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks, Rene. Fender would do it, but I don't have fenders on this bike --
not sure if I will ever add them. No helmet either, alas. I've thought of
clipping a blinkie to the Sam Browne or the belt of the Riv Refl Triangle
-- must investigate that, but don't know how that would orient the rear
light when I am in the riding position.

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:50 PM, René Sterental wrote:

> I place my main rear lights on the rear rack and on the rear fender and
> have two automatic senso lights that turn on when it's dark and the bike
> moves; coupled with a front dynamo senso light (the rear are battery
> operated) I no longer have to remember to turn them on or off.
> Additionally, I'll place a third rear light on my helmet (Specialized
> Street Smart) as it is equipped to do just that and which I do have to
> remember to turn on/off manually. A saddlebag mounted rear light is the
> very last choice for me.
>
> René
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 14, 2012, Jim Mather wrote:
>
>> I use one of these on the seat stay. I think it's quite visible, not
>> very expensive, and I haven't been hit yet.
>>
>>
>> https://www.serfas.com/products/view/164/referer:products%7Cindex%7Clights%7Ctail-lights
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:10 AM, PATRICK MOORE 
>> wrote:
>> > I've asked this before to no response, but from the scuttlebutt there
>> must
>> > be answers out there onlist.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-14 Thread René Sterental
I place my main rear lights on the rear rack and on the rear fender and
have two automatic senso lights that turn on when it's dark and the bike
moves; coupled with a front dynamo senso light (the rear are battery
operated) I no longer have to remember to turn them on or off.
Additionally, I'll place a third rear light on my helmet (Specialized
Street Smart) as it is equipped to do just that and which I do have to
remember to turn on/off manually. A saddlebag mounted rear light is the
very last choice for me.

René

On Wednesday, November 14, 2012, Jim Mather wrote:

> I use one of these on the seat stay. I think it's quite visible, not
> very expensive, and I haven't been hit yet.
>
>
> https://www.serfas.com/products/view/164/referer:products%7Cindex%7Clights%7Ctail-lights
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:10 AM, PATRICK MOORE 
> >
> wrote:
> > I've asked this before to no response, but from the scuttlebutt there
> must
> > be answers out there onlist.
>
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Re: [RBW] Question about blinkies and saddlebag loops

2012-11-14 Thread Jim Mather
I use one of these on the seat stay. I think it's quite visible, not
very expensive, and I haven't been hit yet.

https://www.serfas.com/products/view/164/referer:products%7Cindex%7Clights%7Ctail-lights


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:10 AM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> I've asked this before to no response, but from the scuttlebutt there must
> be answers out there onlist.

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