Re: [RBW] Re: A secret third variety of Nitto R-14?

[Bill Lindsay]

That completely flat-top R14 sounds useful.  I'll keep it in mind.  

BL in EC

On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 12:51:10 PM UTC-7 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:

> Have confirmation from Soma/MSC that the silver R14 "without loadstop" is 
> indeed completely flat at the forward end of the rack platform. Unsightly 
> bag bunching on my All Rounder will soon be a thing of the past. Another 
> win for the collective intelligence of the RBWOB, and thank you again for 
> that.
>
> --
> Bob
>
> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 1:12:38 PM UTC-6 Bob wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the insights and the recommendations. I'll get with Merry 
>> Sales/Soma and see what's what.
>>
>> --
>> Bob
>>
>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 11:41:55 AM UTC-6 Mike Godwin wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with P.W., the silver is flat in the tombstone area relative to 
>>> the semi-gloss of the rest of the rack. 
>>>
>>> Perhaps one of these  Nitto Rack Rear R10 Bag Supporter | Soma Fab Shop 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Someone on 650b or this, or ibob has one posted for sale. 
>>>
>>> Mike SLO CA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 10:11:08 AM UTC-7 thomasl...@comcast.net 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 If this doesn't work i'm afraid my photo will be a no-show.

 On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 12:05:10 PM UTC-5 thomasl...@comcast.net 
 wrote:

> crap... photo-failure... if i can fix it i'll make the picture 
> available somehow
>
> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 12:03:04 PM UTC-5 thomasl...@comcast.net 
> wrote:
>
>> Here’s what I got when I ordered via the link I shared:
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> Yours,
>> Thomas Lynn Skean
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2025, at 11:53 AM, P W  wrote:
>>
>> Was gonna say, if you zoom in on the photo, the back looks perhaps a 
>> little uneven, like maybe the tombstone has been hacked off and filed 
>> down…
>>
>>
>>
>> P. W.
>> ~
>> (917) 514-2207
>> ~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2025, at 9:37 AM, Danny  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I've got one on a bike too, bought it from a list member back in 2021.
>>
>> Will mentions the no-tombstone R-14 in a newsletter back in 2020 and 
>> talks about cutting off tombstones on racks. So that's always an option 
>> if 
>> you can't find the version you're after.
>>
>>
>>
>> *This picture and specifically the old-version R-14 rack on the back 
>> reminds me of something I wanted to put in an email update: If you're 
>> having trouble putting a saddlesack onto a rack with a tombstone (that 
>> pretty rounded piece on the frame-side of the rack), it's OK to cut it 
>> off. 
>> I did exactly that to my basket rack so I could push the basket closer 
>> to 
>> the headtube for slightly better handling.We used big bolt cutters and 
>> filed the sharp edge smooth.*
>>
>> Danny
>> Madison, WI
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 11:28 AM 'thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW 
>> Owners Bunch  wrote:
>>
>>> I acquired a new silver flat  R-14  (no tombstone, no "curb") from 
>>> soma fabrications just last month.
>>>
>>> Nitto Rack Rear R14 Riv Silver | Soma Fab Shop 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>> Thomas Lynn Skean
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 10:58:31 AM UTC-5 rcook...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Good to know, Bones. My tombstone-having R-14 likewise interferes 
 with my medium Saddlesack, though it works fine with my large. I 
 prefer to 
 carry the medium most of the time, though.

 Another member messaged me off-list to suggest that the rack on 
 Vaughn's custom might be a prototype that RBW had hanging around. 
 These 
 data (all two of them) exclude neither the prototype theory nor the 
 commercially-available theory. But there are at least two such R-14s 
 in the 
 world!

 --
 Bob

 On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 4:54:11 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:

> Bob, this rack does exist; I have one and it is currently attached 
> to my Hillborne. I bought it to accommodate my large rear Sackville 
> bag, 
> for which the tombstone would interfere. Unfortunately, I cannot 
> recall 
> where I purchased it (somewhere on the interwebs, some years ago).
>
> Bones 
>
> On Wednesday, July 30, 2025 at 7:02:38 PM UTC-4 rcook...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I have a Nitto R-14 rear rack with tombstone (backstop/loadstop) 
>> and the single hole for a mounting a reflector or light. The 
>> tombstone 
>> interferes with a bag or two that I l

Re: [RBW] Re: A secret third variety of Nitto R-14?

[Bob]

Have confirmation from Soma/MSC that the silver R14 "without loadstop" is 
indeed completely flat at the forward end of the rack platform. Unsightly 
bag bunching on my All Rounder will soon be a thing of the past. Another 
win for the collective intelligence of the RBWOB, and thank you again for 
that.

--
Bob

On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 1:12:38 PM UTC-6 Bob wrote:

> Thanks for the insights and the recommendations. I'll get with Merry 
> Sales/Soma and see what's what.
>
> --
> Bob
>
> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 11:41:55 AM UTC-6 Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>> I agree with P.W., the silver is flat in the tombstone area relative to 
>> the semi-gloss of the rest of the rack. 
>>
>> Perhaps one of these  Nitto Rack Rear R10 Bag Supporter | Soma Fab Shop 
>> 
>>
>> Someone on 650b or this, or ibob has one posted for sale. 
>>
>> Mike SLO CA
>>
>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 10:11:08 AM UTC-7 thomasl...@comcast.net 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If this doesn't work i'm afraid my photo will be a no-show.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 12:05:10 PM UTC-5 thomasl...@comcast.net 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 crap... photo-failure... if i can fix it i'll make the picture 
 available somehow

 On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 12:03:04 PM UTC-5 thomasl...@comcast.net 
 wrote:

> Here’s what I got when I ordered via the link I shared:
>
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
>
> On Jul 31, 2025, at 11:53 AM, P W  wrote:
>
> Was gonna say, if you zoom in on the photo, the back looks perhaps a 
> little uneven, like maybe the tombstone has been hacked off and filed 
> down…
>
>
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 31, 2025, at 9:37 AM, Danny  wrote:
>
> 
> I've got one on a bike too, bought it from a list member back in 2021.
>
> Will mentions the no-tombstone R-14 in a newsletter back in 2020 and 
> talks about cutting off tombstones on racks. So that's always an option 
> if 
> you can't find the version you're after.
>
>
>
> *This picture and specifically the old-version R-14 rack on the back 
> reminds me of something I wanted to put in an email update: If you're 
> having trouble putting a saddlesack onto a rack with a tombstone (that 
> pretty rounded piece on the frame-side of the rack), it's OK to cut it 
> off. 
> I did exactly that to my basket rack so I could push the basket closer to 
> the headtube for slightly better handling.We used big bolt cutters and 
> filed the sharp edge smooth.*
>
> Danny
> Madison, WI
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 11:28 AM 'thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW 
> Owners Bunch  wrote:
>
>> I acquired a new silver flat  R-14  (no tombstone, no "curb") from 
>> soma fabrications just last month.
>>
>> Nitto Rack Rear R14 Riv Silver | Soma Fab Shop 
>> 
>>
>> Yours,
>> Thomas Lynn Skean
>>
>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 10:58:31 AM UTC-5 rcook...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good to know, Bones. My tombstone-having R-14 likewise interferes 
>>> with my medium Saddlesack, though it works fine with my large. I prefer 
>>> to 
>>> carry the medium most of the time, though.
>>>
>>> Another member messaged me off-list to suggest that the rack on 
>>> Vaughn's custom might be a prototype that RBW had hanging around. These 
>>> data (all two of them) exclude neither the prototype theory nor the 
>>> commercially-available theory. But there are at least two such R-14s in 
>>> the 
>>> world!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 4:54:11 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>>>
 Bob, this rack does exist; I have one and it is currently attached 
 to my Hillborne. I bought it to accommodate my large rear Sackville 
 bag, 
 for which the tombstone would interfere. Unfortunately, I cannot 
 recall 
 where I purchased it (somewhere on the interwebs, some years ago).

 Bones 

 On Wednesday, July 30, 2025 at 7:02:38 PM UTC-4 rcook...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I have a Nitto R-14 rear rack with tombstone (backstop/loadstop) 
> and the single hole for a mounting a reflector or light. The 
> tombstone 
> interferes with a bag or two that I like to use, so I have considered 
> the 
> version with… let's call it a curb (shown here: 
> https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-r14-rear-bag-supporter-silver.html
> ).
>
> But I have seen a few photos of an R-14 with neither the tombstone 
> nor the curb *and* a t

Re: [RBW] Re: A secret third variety of Nitto R-14?

[Bob]

Thanks for the insights and the recommendations. I'll get with Merry 
Sales/Soma and see what's what.

--
Bob

On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 11:41:55 AM UTC-6 Mike Godwin wrote:

> I agree with P.W., the silver is flat in the tombstone area relative to 
> the semi-gloss of the rest of the rack. 
>
> Perhaps one of these  Nitto Rack Rear R10 Bag Supporter | Soma Fab Shop 
> 
>
> Someone on 650b or this, or ibob has one posted for sale. 
>
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 10:11:08 AM UTC-7 thomasl...@comcast.net 
> wrote:
>
>> If this doesn't work i'm afraid my photo will be a no-show.
>>
>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 12:05:10 PM UTC-5 thomasl...@comcast.net 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> crap... photo-failure... if i can fix it i'll make the picture available 
>>> somehow
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 12:03:04 PM UTC-5 thomasl...@comcast.net 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Here’s what I got when I ordered via the link I shared:

 [image: image0.jpeg]

 Yours,
 Thomas Lynn Skean

 On Jul 31, 2025, at 11:53 AM, P W  wrote:

 Was gonna say, if you zoom in on the photo, the back looks perhaps a 
 little uneven, like maybe the tombstone has been hacked off and filed down…



 P. W.
 ~
 (917) 514-2207
 ~




 On Jul 31, 2025, at 9:37 AM, Danny  wrote:

 
 I've got one on a bike too, bought it from a list member back in 2021.

 Will mentions the no-tombstone R-14 in a newsletter back in 2020 and 
 talks about cutting off tombstones on racks. So that's always an option if 
 you can't find the version you're after.



 *This picture and specifically the old-version R-14 rack on the back 
 reminds me of something I wanted to put in an email update: If you're 
 having trouble putting a saddlesack onto a rack with a tombstone (that 
 pretty rounded piece on the frame-side of the rack), it's OK to cut it 
 off. 
 I did exactly that to my basket rack so I could push the basket closer to 
 the headtube for slightly better handling.We used big bolt cutters and 
 filed the sharp edge smooth.*

 Danny
 Madison, WI

 On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 11:28 AM 'thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW 
 Owners Bunch  wrote:

> I acquired a new silver flat  R-14  (no tombstone, no "curb") from 
> soma fabrications just last month.
>
> Nitto Rack Rear R14 Riv Silver | Soma Fab Shop 
> 
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
>
> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 10:58:31 AM UTC-5 rcook...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Good to know, Bones. My tombstone-having R-14 likewise interferes 
>> with my medium Saddlesack, though it works fine with my large. I prefer 
>> to 
>> carry the medium most of the time, though.
>>
>> Another member messaged me off-list to suggest that the rack on 
>> Vaughn's custom might be a prototype that RBW had hanging around. These 
>> data (all two of them) exclude neither the prototype theory nor the 
>> commercially-available theory. But there are at least two such R-14s in 
>> the 
>> world!
>>
>> --
>> Bob
>>
>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 4:54:11 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> Bob, this rack does exist; I have one and it is currently attached 
>>> to my Hillborne. I bought it to accommodate my large rear Sackville 
>>> bag, 
>>> for which the tombstone would interfere. Unfortunately, I cannot recall 
>>> where I purchased it (somewhere on the interwebs, some years ago).
>>>
>>> Bones 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 30, 2025 at 7:02:38 PM UTC-4 rcook...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have a Nitto R-14 rear rack with tombstone (backstop/loadstop) 
 and the single hole for a mounting a reflector or light. The tombstone 
 interferes with a bag or two that I like to use, so I have considered 
 the 
 version with… let's call it a curb (shown here: 
 https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-r14-rear-bag-supporter-silver.html
 ).

 But I have seen a few photos of an R-14 with neither the tombstone 
 nor the curb *and* a three-hole mounting plate for a taillight. 
 This is the version on Vaughn's custom from 2021 (
 https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/customer-bikes/vaughns-custom-andreas-sam-and-some-other-miscellany?_pos=1&_sid=94274944c&_ss=r).
  
 I can't find evidence of this version for sale anywhere, though. Does 
 anyone know more about it?

 Thank you.

 --
 Bob

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Re: [RBW] Re: A secret third variety of Nitto R-14?

[Mike Godwin]

I agree with P.W., the silver is flat in the tombstone area relative to the 
semi-gloss of the rest of the rack. 

Perhaps one of these  Nitto Rack Rear R10 Bag Supporter | Soma Fab Shop 


Someone on 650b or this, or ibob has one posted for sale. 

Mike SLO CA

On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 10:11:08 AM UTC-7 thomasl...@comcast.net 
wrote:

> If this doesn't work i'm afraid my photo will be a no-show.
>
> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 12:05:10 PM UTC-5 thomasl...@comcast.net 
> wrote:
>
>> crap... photo-failure... if i can fix it i'll make the picture available 
>> somehow
>>
>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 12:03:04 PM UTC-5 thomasl...@comcast.net 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here’s what I got when I ordered via the link I shared:
>>>
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>> Thomas Lynn Skean
>>>
>>> On Jul 31, 2025, at 11:53 AM, P W  wrote:
>>>
>>> Was gonna say, if you zoom in on the photo, the back looks perhaps a 
>>> little uneven, like maybe the tombstone has been hacked off and filed down…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> P. W.
>>> ~
>>> (917) 514-2207
>>> ~
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 31, 2025, at 9:37 AM, Danny  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> I've got one on a bike too, bought it from a list member back in 2021.
>>>
>>> Will mentions the no-tombstone R-14 in a newsletter back in 2020 and 
>>> talks about cutting off tombstones on racks. So that's always an option if 
>>> you can't find the version you're after.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *This picture and specifically the old-version R-14 rack on the back 
>>> reminds me of something I wanted to put in an email update: If you're 
>>> having trouble putting a saddlesack onto a rack with a tombstone (that 
>>> pretty rounded piece on the frame-side of the rack), it's OK to cut it off. 
>>> I did exactly that to my basket rack so I could push the basket closer to 
>>> the headtube for slightly better handling.We used big bolt cutters and 
>>> filed the sharp edge smooth.*
>>>
>>> Danny
>>> Madison, WI
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 11:28 AM 'thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW 
>>> Owners Bunch  wrote:
>>>
 I acquired a new silver flat  R-14  (no tombstone, no "curb") from soma 
 fabrications just last month.

 Nitto Rack Rear R14 Riv Silver | Soma Fab Shop 
 

 Yours,
 Thomas Lynn Skean

 On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 10:58:31 AM UTC-5 rcook...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Good to know, Bones. My tombstone-having R-14 likewise interferes with 
> my medium Saddlesack, though it works fine with my large. I prefer to 
> carry 
> the medium most of the time, though.
>
> Another member messaged me off-list to suggest that the rack on 
> Vaughn's custom might be a prototype that RBW had hanging around. These 
> data (all two of them) exclude neither the prototype theory nor the 
> commercially-available theory. But there are at least two such R-14s in 
> the 
> world!
>
> --
> Bob
>
> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 4:54:11 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>
>> Bob, this rack does exist; I have one and it is currently attached to 
>> my Hillborne. I bought it to accommodate my large rear Sackville bag, 
>> for 
>> which the tombstone would interfere. Unfortunately, I cannot recall 
>> where I 
>> purchased it (somewhere on the interwebs, some years ago).
>>
>> Bones 
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 30, 2025 at 7:02:38 PM UTC-4 rcook...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Nitto R-14 rear rack with tombstone (backstop/loadstop) and 
>>> the single hole for a mounting a reflector or light. The tombstone 
>>> interferes with a bag or two that I like to use, so I have considered 
>>> the 
>>> version with… let's call it a curb (shown here: 
>>> https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-r14-rear-bag-supporter-silver.html
>>> ).
>>>
>>> But I have seen a few photos of an R-14 with neither the tombstone 
>>> nor the curb *and* a three-hole mounting plate for a taillight. 
>>> This is the version on Vaughn's custom from 2021 (
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/customer-bikes/vaughns-custom-andreas-sam-and-some-other-miscellany?_pos=1&_sid=94274944c&_ss=r).
>>>  
>>> I can't find evidence of this version for sale anywhere, though. Does 
>>> anyone know more about it?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: A secret third variety of Nitto R-14?

['thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW Owners Bunch]

crap... photo-failure... if i can fix it i'll make the picture available 
somehow

On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 12:03:04 PM UTC-5 thomasl...@comcast.net 
wrote:

> Here’s what I got when I ordered via the link I shared:
>
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
>
> On Jul 31, 2025, at 11:53 AM, P W  wrote:
>
> Was gonna say, if you zoom in on the photo, the back looks perhaps a 
> little uneven, like maybe the tombstone has been hacked off and filed down…
>
>
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 31, 2025, at 9:37 AM, Danny  wrote:
>
> 
> I've got one on a bike too, bought it from a list member back in 2021.
>
> Will mentions the no-tombstone R-14 in a newsletter back in 2020 and talks 
> about cutting off tombstones on racks. So that's always an option if you 
> can't find the version you're after.
>
>
>
> *This picture and specifically the old-version R-14 rack on the back 
> reminds me of something I wanted to put in an email update: If you're 
> having trouble putting a saddlesack onto a rack with a tombstone (that 
> pretty rounded piece on the frame-side of the rack), it's OK to cut it off. 
> I did exactly that to my basket rack so I could push the basket closer to 
> the headtube for slightly better handling.We used big bolt cutters and 
> filed the sharp edge smooth.*
>
> Danny
> Madison, WI
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 11:28 AM 'thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW Owners 
> Bunch  wrote:
>
>> I acquired a new silver flat  R-14  (no tombstone, no "curb") from soma 
>> fabrications just last month.
>>
>> Nitto Rack Rear R14 Riv Silver | Soma Fab Shop 
>> 
>>
>> Yours,
>> Thomas Lynn Skean
>>
>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 10:58:31 AM UTC-5 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Good to know, Bones. My tombstone-having R-14 likewise interferes with 
>>> my medium Saddlesack, though it works fine with my large. I prefer to carry 
>>> the medium most of the time, though.
>>>
>>> Another member messaged me off-list to suggest that the rack on Vaughn's 
>>> custom might be a prototype that RBW had hanging around. These data (all 
>>> two of them) exclude neither the prototype theory nor the 
>>> commercially-available theory. But there are at least two such R-14s in the 
>>> world!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 4:54:11 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>>>
 Bob, this rack does exist; I have one and it is currently attached to 
 my Hillborne. I bought it to accommodate my large rear Sackville bag, for 
 which the tombstone would interfere. Unfortunately, I cannot recall where 
 I 
 purchased it (somewhere on the interwebs, some years ago).

 Bones 

 On Wednesday, July 30, 2025 at 7:02:38 PM UTC-4 rcook...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I have a Nitto R-14 rear rack with tombstone (backstop/loadstop) and 
> the single hole for a mounting a reflector or light. The tombstone 
> interferes with a bag or two that I like to use, so I have considered the 
> version with… let's call it a curb (shown here: 
> https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-r14-rear-bag-supporter-silver.html).
>
> But I have seen a few photos of an R-14 with neither the tombstone nor 
> the curb *and* a three-hole mounting plate for a taillight. This is 
> the version on Vaughn's custom from 2021 (
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/customer-bikes/vaughns-custom-andreas-sam-and-some-other-miscellany?_pos=1&_sid=94274944c&_ss=r).
>  
> I can't find evidence of this version for sale anywhere, though. Does 
> anyone know more about it?
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Bob
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: A secret third variety of Nitto R-14?

[P W]

Was gonna say, if you zoom in on the photo, the back looks perhaps a little uneven, like maybe the tombstone has been hacked off and filed down…P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On Jul 31, 2025, at 9:37 AM, Danny  wrote:I've got one on a bike too, bought it from a list member back in 2021.Will mentions the no-tombstone R-14 in a newsletter back in 2020 and talks about cutting off tombstones on racks. So that's always an option if you can't find the version you're after.This picture and specifically the old-version R-14 rack on the back reminds me of something I wanted to put in an email update: If you're having trouble putting a saddlesack onto a rack with a tombstone (that pretty rounded piece on the frame-side of the rack), it's OK to cut it off. I did exactly that to my basket rack so I could push the basket closer to the headtube for slightly better handling.We used big bolt cutters and filed the sharp edge smooth.DannyMadison, WIOn Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 11:28 AM 'thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:I acquired a new silver flat 

R-14  (no tombstone, no "curb") from soma fabrications just last month.Nitto Rack Rear R14 Riv Silver | Soma Fab ShopYours,Thomas Lynn SkeanOn Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 10:58:31 AM UTC-5 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:Good to know, Bones. My tombstone-having R-14 likewise interferes with my medium Saddlesack, though it works fine with my large. I prefer to carry the medium most of the time, though.Another member messaged me off-list to suggest that the rack on Vaughn's custom might be a prototype that RBW had hanging around. These data (all two of them) exclude neither the prototype theory nor the commercially-available theory. But there are at least two such R-14s in the world!--BobOn Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 4:54:11 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:Bob, this rack does exist; I have one and it is currently attached to my Hillborne. I bought it to accommodate my large rear Sackville bag, for which the tombstone would interfere. Unfortunately, I cannot recall where I purchased it (somewhere on the interwebs, some years ago).Bones On Wednesday, July 30, 2025 at 7:02:38 PM UTC-4 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:I have a Nitto R-14 rear rack with tombstone (backstop/loadstop) and the single hole for a mounting a reflector or light. The tombstone interferes with a bag or two that I like to use, so I have considered the version with… let's call it a curb (shown here: https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-r14-rear-bag-supporter-silver.html).But I have seen a few photos of an R-14 with neither the tombstone nor the curb and a three-hole mounting plate for a taillight. This is the version on Vaughn's custom from 2021 (https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/customer-bikes/vaughns-custom-andreas-sam-and-some-other-miscellany?_pos=1&_sid=94274944c&_ss=r). I can't find evidence of this version for sale anywhere, though. Does anyone know more about it?Thank you.--Bob



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Re: [RBW] Re: A secret third variety of Nitto R-14?

[Adam S]

I have a black flat R14 with the three-hole light mount that I got from 
Merry Sales earlier this year. I would guess that the photos of the silver 
R14 on the Soma Fab site are older and that the current ones have the light 
mount that you're looking for.

Adam
Santa Fe, NM

On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 10:37:49 AM UTC-6 Danny wrote:

> I've got one on a bike too, bought it from a list member back in 2021.
>
> Will mentions the no-tombstone R-14 in a newsletter back in 2020 and talks 
> about cutting off tombstones on racks. So that's always an option if you 
> can't find the version you're after.
>
>
>
> *This picture and specifically the old-version R-14 rack on the back 
> reminds me of something I wanted to put in an email update: If you're 
> having trouble putting a saddlesack onto a rack with a tombstone (that 
> pretty rounded piece on the frame-side of the rack), it's OK to cut it off. 
> I did exactly that to my basket rack so I could push the basket closer to 
> the headtube for slightly better handling.We used big bolt cutters and 
> filed the sharp edge smooth.*
>
> Danny
> Madison, WI
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 11:28 AM 'thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW Owners 
> Bunch  wrote:
>
>> I acquired a new silver flat  R-14  (no tombstone, no "curb") from soma 
>> fabrications just last month.
>>
>> Nitto Rack Rear R14 Riv Silver | Soma Fab Shop 
>> 
>>
>> Yours,
>> Thomas Lynn Skean
>>
>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 10:58:31 AM UTC-5 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Good to know, Bones. My tombstone-having R-14 likewise interferes with 
>>> my medium Saddlesack, though it works fine with my large. I prefer to carry 
>>> the medium most of the time, though.
>>>
>>> Another member messaged me off-list to suggest that the rack on Vaughn's 
>>> custom might be a prototype that RBW had hanging around. These data (all 
>>> two of them) exclude neither the prototype theory nor the 
>>> commercially-available theory. But there are at least two such R-14s in the 
>>> world!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 4:54:11 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>>>
 Bob, this rack does exist; I have one and it is currently attached to 
 my Hillborne. I bought it to accommodate my large rear Sackville bag, for 
 which the tombstone would interfere. Unfortunately, I cannot recall where 
 I 
 purchased it (somewhere on the interwebs, some years ago).

 Bones 

 On Wednesday, July 30, 2025 at 7:02:38 PM UTC-4 rcook...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I have a Nitto R-14 rear rack with tombstone (backstop/loadstop) and 
> the single hole for a mounting a reflector or light. The tombstone 
> interferes with a bag or two that I like to use, so I have considered the 
> version with… let's call it a curb (shown here: 
> https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-r14-rear-bag-supporter-silver.html).
>
> But I have seen a few photos of an R-14 with neither the tombstone nor 
> the curb *and* a three-hole mounting plate for a taillight. This is 
> the version on Vaughn's custom from 2021 (
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/customer-bikes/vaughns-custom-andreas-sam-and-some-other-miscellany?_pos=1&_sid=94274944c&_ss=r).
>  
> I can't find evidence of this version for sale anywhere, though. Does 
> anyone know more about it?
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Bob
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Re: [RBW] Re: A secret third variety of Nitto R-14?

[Danny]

I've got one on a bike too, bought it from a list member back in 2021.

Will mentions the no-tombstone R-14 in a newsletter back in 2020 and talks
about cutting off tombstones on racks. So that's always an option if you
can't find the version you're after.



*This picture and specifically the old-version R-14 rack on the back
reminds me of something I wanted to put in an email update: If you're
having trouble putting a saddlesack onto a rack with a tombstone (that
pretty rounded piece on the frame-side of the rack), it's OK to cut it off.
I did exactly that to my basket rack so I could push the basket closer to
the headtube for slightly better handling.We used big bolt cutters and
filed the sharp edge smooth.*

Danny
Madison, WI

On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 11:28 AM 'thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW Owners
Bunch  wrote:

> I acquired a new silver flat  R-14  (no tombstone, no "curb") from soma
> fabrications just last month.
>
> Nitto Rack Rear R14 Riv Silver | Soma Fab Shop
> 
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
>
> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 10:58:31 AM UTC-5 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Good to know, Bones. My tombstone-having R-14 likewise interferes with my
>> medium Saddlesack, though it works fine with my large. I prefer to carry
>> the medium most of the time, though.
>>
>> Another member messaged me off-list to suggest that the rack on Vaughn's
>> custom might be a prototype that RBW had hanging around. These data (all
>> two of them) exclude neither the prototype theory nor the
>> commercially-available theory. But there are at least two such R-14s in the
>> world!
>>
>> --
>> Bob
>>
>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 4:54:11 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> Bob, this rack does exist; I have one and it is currently attached to my
>>> Hillborne. I bought it to accommodate my large rear Sackville bag, for
>>> which the tombstone would interfere. Unfortunately, I cannot recall where I
>>> purchased it (somewhere on the interwebs, some years ago).
>>>
>>> Bones
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 30, 2025 at 7:02:38 PM UTC-4 rcook...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have a Nitto R-14 rear rack with tombstone (backstop/loadstop) and
 the single hole for a mounting a reflector or light. The tombstone
 interferes with a bag or two that I like to use, so I have considered the
 version with… let's call it a curb (shown here:
 https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-r14-rear-bag-supporter-silver.html).

 But I have seen a few photos of an R-14 with neither the tombstone nor
 the curb *and* a three-hole mounting plate for a taillight. This is
 the version on Vaughn's custom from 2021 (
 https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/customer-bikes/vaughns-custom-andreas-sam-and-some-other-miscellany?_pos=1&_sid=94274944c&_ss=r).
 I can't find evidence of this version for sale anywhere, though. Does
 anyone know more about it?

 Thank you.

 --
 Bob

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