Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa Front-End Update

[Scott McLain]

Hi Liam,
I have a little different spin on this.  Your "horror show" comment made me 
laugh, thanks!

I think your rack is going to be okay.  The problem is that Riv puts their 
mid fork eyelet in a non-standard location. It works great for Nitto front 
racks, but not other "standard" stuff. That is why J Imler had to use the 
"P" clips/clamps on his fork.  I have your same rack on my Long Haul 
Trucker and it works great.  I am running 700cx40mm tires.  I also like how 
you used the lower eyelet on your dropout for your rack connection.  You 
will then use the Tara tab for your fender connection.

Go to a local bike shop.  They should have P-clamps.  

https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-band-clamps-pair

Good Luck!  Have fun in Spain on your Rivendell you lucky dog!

Scott mild winter McLain



On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 5:27:30 PM UTC-7, Liam Allen wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Thanks for all this info. New to this so not sure I'm posting in the right 
> place but thanks to Coal and Kainalu too!
>
> What a bummer! I actually got the Tubus to replace a Hebie front pannier 
> rack I was running. It was fine great and sat level, and it did me well for 
> a long trip in the summer, but wouldn't allow space for the Nitto rack and 
> basket. Should have researched this better as I'm now amounting a 
> collection of very nice but redundant pannier racks!
>
> The hub area one is a lovely looking thing, it's just that I'm in 
> Barcelona, Spain and not sure I can justify the price and air mail of 
> getting one sent all the way here... Unless anyone knows of anyone else 
> that sells them? Or are they a Riv exclusive?
> Hopefully it'll be third time lucky!
>
> I'll look into these mid-fork eyelets if not.
>
> Thanks again for all the help. 
>
> Liam
>
> On Friday, February 2, 2018 at 5:15:42 PM UTC+1, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> Liam-
>>
>> Yes, the Tubus Tara Big Apple has a larger hoop over the tire, to fit the 
>> aforementioned tire.  Your "standard"  Tara doesn't give enough clearance.
>>
>> Also the horizontal struts are supposed to be horizontal so you can 
>> attach your pannier clips to them.  Panniers may not like the angled 
>> struts, and it could tilt the panniers back enough to cause other problems 
>> (toe overlap, handling, etc).
>>
>> I agree that the best solutions would be:
>> 1) Tubus Tara Big Apple, with Tubus Mid-Fork eyelets to keep the struts 
>> horizontal
>> or
>> 2) a different front pannier rack (Hub Area Rack, or many other options)
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Liam Allen  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> Just found this and wanted to put my problem to you. 
>>> I've bought a TUBUS TARA Lowrider rack to put up the front of my 
>>> Appaloosa. I saw yours here so went ahead and bought one.
>>> However, I'm just reading your message below properly and think I've 
>>> realised my error. Yours is a Tara Big Apple, a different model. 
>>> This is the horror show I'm dealing with at the moment (see pic.) It 
>>> ain't gonna happen is it?!
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Liam  
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 9:16:13 PM UTC+2, J Imler wrote:

 Installed a Tubus Tara Big Apple on my Appaloosa. See pics for various 
 intricacies. Mark's Rack sitting with up-angle allows for top of brake arm 
 clearance under fork crown Nitto strut. Used Nitto clamps for mid-fork 
 connection. I bought the Tubus mid-fork connection doodad but like the 
 Nitto clamps much better. Those are Ortlieb Front Roller panniers. I 
 loaded 
 Joe with a multitude of my kid's library books for an initiation and 
 thought it handled very well. See pics here: 
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwHqG1q8uHdcaUt6aTV6X296a0U/view?usp=sharing

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Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa Front-End Update

[Liam Allen]

Hi everyone,

Thanks for all this info. New to this so not sure I'm posting in the right 
place but thanks to Coal and Kainalu too!

What a bummer! I actually got the Tubus to replace a Hebie front pannier 
rack I was running. It was fine great and sat level, and it did me well for 
a long trip in the summer, but wouldn't allow space for the Nitto rack and 
basket. Should have researched this better as I'm now amounting a 
collection of very nice but redundant pannier racks!

The hub area one is a lovely looking thing, it's just that I'm in 
Barcelona, Spain and not sure I can justify the price and air mail of 
getting one sent all the way here... Unless anyone knows of anyone else 
that sells them? Or are they a Riv exclusive?
Hopefully it'll be third time lucky!

I'll look into these mid-fork eyelets if not.

Thanks again for all the help. 

Liam

On Friday, February 2, 2018 at 5:15:42 PM UTC+1, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Liam-
>
> Yes, the Tubus Tara Big Apple has a larger hoop over the tire, to fit the 
> aforementioned tire.  Your "standard"  Tara doesn't give enough clearance.
>
> Also the horizontal struts are supposed to be horizontal so you can attach 
> your pannier clips to them.  Panniers may not like the angled struts, and 
> it could tilt the panniers back enough to cause other problems (toe 
> overlap, handling, etc).
>
> I agree that the best solutions would be:
> 1) Tubus Tara Big Apple, with Tubus Mid-Fork eyelets to keep the struts 
> horizontal
> or
> 2) a different front pannier rack (Hub Area Rack, or many other options)
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Liam Allen  > wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Just found this and wanted to put my problem to you. 
>> I've bought a TUBUS TARA Lowrider rack to put up the front of my 
>> Appaloosa. I saw yours here so went ahead and bought one.
>> However, I'm just reading your message below properly and think I've 
>> realised my error. Yours is a Tara Big Apple, a different model. 
>> This is the horror show I'm dealing with at the moment (see pic.) It 
>> ain't gonna happen is it?!
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Liam  
>>
>> On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 9:16:13 PM UTC+2, J Imler wrote:
>>>
>>> Installed a Tubus Tara Big Apple on my Appaloosa. See pics for various 
>>> intricacies. Mark's Rack sitting with up-angle allows for top of brake arm 
>>> clearance under fork crown Nitto strut. Used Nitto clamps for mid-fork 
>>> connection. I bought the Tubus mid-fork connection doodad but like the 
>>> Nitto clamps much better. Those are Ortlieb Front Roller panniers. I loaded 
>>> Joe with a multitude of my kid's library books for an initiation and 
>>> thought it handled very well. See pics here: 
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwHqG1q8uHdcaUt6aTV6X296a0U/view?usp=sharing
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa Front-End Update

[Tim Gavin]

Liam-

Yes, the Tubus Tara Big Apple has a larger hoop over the tire, to fit the
aforementioned tire.  Your "standard"  Tara doesn't give enough clearance.

Also the horizontal struts are supposed to be horizontal so you can attach
your pannier clips to them.  Panniers may not like the angled struts, and
it could tilt the panniers back enough to cause other problems (toe
overlap, handling, etc).

I agree that the best solutions would be:
1) Tubus Tara Big Apple, with Tubus Mid-Fork eyelets to keep the struts
horizontal
or
2) a different front pannier rack (Hub Area Rack, or many other options)

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Liam Allen 
wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Just found this and wanted to put my problem to you.
> I've bought a TUBUS TARA Lowrider rack to put up the front of my
> Appaloosa. I saw yours here so went ahead and bought one.
> However, I'm just reading your message below properly and think I've
> realised my error. Yours is a Tara Big Apple, a different model.
> This is the horror show I'm dealing with at the moment (see pic.) It ain't
> gonna happen is it?!
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Liam
>
> On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 9:16:13 PM UTC+2, J Imler wrote:
>>
>> Installed a Tubus Tara Big Apple on my Appaloosa. See pics for various
>> intricacies. Mark's Rack sitting with up-angle allows for top of brake arm
>> clearance under fork crown Nitto strut. Used Nitto clamps for mid-fork
>> connection. I bought the Tubus mid-fork connection doodad but like the
>> Nitto clamps much better. Those are Ortlieb Front Roller panniers. I loaded
>> Joe with a multitude of my kid's library books for an initiation and
>> thought it handled very well. See pics here: https://drive.google.com
>> /file/d/0BwHqG1q8uHdcaUt6aTV6X296a0U/view?usp=sharing
>>
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