Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Jeff Lyon lightweight steel frameset

[Eliot Balogh]

You are right. Jeff confirmed it’s a Ritchey fork. Although he didn’t
specify which.

Thanks for the history. That’s really cool.

On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 11:36 PM zybariver  wrote:

> Pretty sure that's a Ritchey Swiss Cross fork.  I've seen a couple of
> Jeff's cx bikes where he's used that one.
>
> Greg Walton
> Seattle
>
> On Wednesday, August 14, 2024 at 7:03:43 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Heck of a deal :p
>>
>> I’m happy to clarify with Jeff. My guess is Ritchey crown but we shall
>> see.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 6:19 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm still winning at only $207.50 (plus shipping).  Now I'm actually
>>> starting to look it over.  Haha
>>>
>>> Do you know what the story is with the fork?  It's got a Ritchey logo in
>>> it.  Is that a Ritchey fork or some kind of Ritchey crown that Jeff used to
>>> build a fork?
>>>
>>>  BL in EC
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 6:53:44 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Haha that’s awesome Bill. You’re welcome to it at that price if you
 win. I’d hope for more but it doesn’t fit me and I have other projects that
 could use the bike funds.

 Thanks

 Eliot

 On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 3:38 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> I threw a $400 bid at it just for fun, and because it pisses me off
> that 4 people already bid $50 or less on it, because they are bottom
> feeders.  If I win and you don't want to sell it at that price, I'll let
> you keep it.  I respect the no-reserve-one-dollar auction to let the 
> market
> decide what something is worth.  I hope it goes way up.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 11:47:22 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Mike, I don’t remember getting that request. Sorry about that. I
>> don’t have wheels for it any more but would guesstimate 820-830 based on 
>> a
>> test ride when I bought it and past experience.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 11:14 AM Mike Godwin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eliot
>>>
>>> Did you ever get an opportunity to put some wheels on and measure
>>> the stand over height?
>>> Mike SLO CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 10:40:20 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 No longer available. Listed as an ebay auction. Current winning bid
 is $2.25. If it fits you don't be shy.

 On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 8:19 AM Eliot Balogh 
 wrote:

> Price drop to $875 shipped
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 2:08 PM Brian Campbell 
> wrote:
>
 I have 2, L' avecaise frames from Jeff Lyon.
>> The first is set up as a dedicated Rando bike and the other as a
>> lighter weight, road bike.
>> Both are 59cm ST, 58 cm TT, 700c wheels and can fit 35mm tires
>> and fenders with dual pivot brakes.
>> 28mm, 7-4-7 top tube and 38mm down tubes
>> Seat & Headtube angle 72.5 degrees
>> BB drop 78mm
>> Chainstay Length 44cm
>> Fork rake 58mm
>> Both frames weigh just a hair over 6lbs with the 1 1/8 fork
>> included.
>> I think they ride great and if the frame for sale rides anything
>> like mine, I think the buyer will be very pleased.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 9:34:55 AM UTC-4 lukeheller wrote:
>>
>>> Dang, i love this.
>>> I've been after a Lyon or Lyon adjacent.
>>> Actually called Jess last fall and inquired about a new frame
>>> but he was not taking new orders due to aging challenges.
>>> This seems like a great deal and a great fit for someone!
>>>
>>> If the STA were 72 or slacker, i'd likely gobble this up!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 9:57:20 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey Bill,

 I’m waiting to hear back from Jeff Lyon for the details. With
 the light weight and 435 stays I’m guessing cross vs sport tour. 
 STA is 73,
 HTA 72, my gross measurement of stack and reach were ~400 +/- 5mm 
 and 600,
 rear end is 130mm

 I’ll see if I can’t get an approximate BB drop with a line
 level.

 Eliot

 On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:29 PM Bill Lindsay 
 wrote:

> Do you have any idea what it is?  Like, is it a cyclocross
> frame?  Is it a gravel frame?  Is it a touring frame?  Any idea 
> of the
> Stack and Reach, or angles, and BB drop?  Over Locknut Dimension 
> in back?
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 1:28:30 

Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Jeff Lyon lightweight steel frameset

[zybariver]

Pretty sure that's a Ritchey Swiss Cross fork.  I've seen a couple of 
Jeff's cx bikes where he's used that one.

Greg Walton
Seattle

On Wednesday, August 14, 2024 at 7:03:43 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Heck of a deal :p
>
> I’m happy to clarify with Jeff. My guess is Ritchey crown but we shall 
> see. 
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 6:19 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> I'm still winning at only $207.50 (plus shipping).  Now I'm actually 
>> starting to look it over.  Haha
>>
>> Do you know what the story is with the fork?  It's got a Ritchey logo in 
>> it.  Is that a Ritchey fork or some kind of Ritchey crown that Jeff used to 
>> build a fork?
>>
>>  BL in EC
>>
>> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 6:53:44 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Haha that’s awesome Bill. You’re welcome to it at that price if you win. 
>>> I’d hope for more but it doesn’t fit me and I have other projects that 
>>> could use the bike funds.
>>>
>>> Thanks 
>>>
>>> Eliot 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 3:38 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
 I threw a $400 bid at it just for fun, and because it pisses me off 
 that 4 people already bid $50 or less on it, because they are bottom 
 feeders.  If I win and you don't want to sell it at that price, I'll let 
 you keep it.  I respect the no-reserve-one-dollar auction to let the 
 market 
 decide what something is worth.  I hope it goes way up.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 11:47:22 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hey Mike, I don’t remember getting that request. Sorry about that. I 
> don’t have wheels for it any more but would guesstimate 820-830 based on 
> a 
> test ride when I bought it and past experience.
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 11:14 AM Mike Godwin  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Eliot
>>
>> Did you ever get an opportunity to put some wheels on and measure the 
>> stand over height? 
>> Mike SLO CA
>>
>> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 10:40:20 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No longer available. Listed as an ebay auction. Current winning bid 
>>> is $2.25. If it fits you don't be shy.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 8:19 AM Eliot Balogh  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Price drop to $875 shipped

 On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 2:08 PM Brian Campbell  
 wrote:

>>> I have 2, L' avecaise frames from Jeff Lyon. 
> The first is set up as a dedicated Rando bike and the other as a 
> lighter weight, road bike. 
> Both are 59cm ST, 58 cm TT, 700c wheels and can fit 35mm tires and 
> fenders with dual pivot brakes.
> 28mm, 7-4-7 top tube and 38mm down tubes
> Seat & Headtube angle 72.5 degrees
> BB drop 78mm
> Chainstay Length 44cm
> Fork rake 58mm
> Both frames weigh just a hair over 6lbs with the 1 1/8 fork 
> included.
> I think they ride great and if the frame for sale rides anything 
> like mine, I think the buyer will be very pleased.
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 9:34:55 AM UTC-4 lukeheller wrote:
>
>> Dang, i love this. 
>> I've been after a Lyon or Lyon adjacent.
>> Actually called Jess last fall and inquired about a new frame but 
>> he was not taking new orders due to aging challenges.
>> This seems like a great deal and a great fit for someone!
>>
>> If the STA were 72 or slacker, i'd likely gobble this up!
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 9:57:20 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Bill,
>>>
>>> I’m waiting to hear back from Jeff Lyon for the details. With 
>>> the light weight and 435 stays I’m guessing cross vs sport tour. 
>>> STA is 73, 
>>> HTA 72, my gross measurement of stack and reach were ~400 +/- 5mm 
>>> and 600, 
>>> rear end is 130mm
>>>
>>> I’ll see if I can’t get an approximate BB drop with a line 
>>> level. 
>>>
>>> Eliot
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:29 PM Bill Lindsay  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Do you have any idea what it is?  Like, is it a cyclocross 
 frame?  Is it a gravel frame?  Is it a touring frame?  Any idea of 
 the 
 Stack and Reach, or angles, and BB drop?  Over Locknut Dimension 
 in back?

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-7 
 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> I apologize if this isn’t allowed here. Just figured this 
> bunch would appreciate it.
> Selling this early 2000s custom steel Lyon frameset. I know 
> you don’t care a

Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Jeff Lyon lightweight steel frameset

[Rory C]

I had a cyclocross frame that was almost exactly this from Jeff that I 
raced on for a while. the fork is from ritchey, and I don't think Jeff 
built them. The run of cyclocross frames, as I understand it, were built as 
an affordable way for people to get a good quality cyclocross frame. To 
give a frame of reference, I bought mine for the '96 cross season, and 
one's choice of cyclocross bikes were redline, alan, or something from 
europe like guerciotti. I bought mine frin Val at bikesmith in Seattle, and 
I think it was $800 for frame fork at the time. I later had him 
repaint/replace the original fork with a ritchey (similar to what you have 
around '03) This bike is a great ride, since it was pretty darn light, and 
had great handling.

On Wednesday, August 14, 2024 at 7:03:43 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Heck of a deal :p
>
> I’m happy to clarify with Jeff. My guess is Ritchey crown but we shall 
> see. 
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 6:19 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> I'm still winning at only $207.50 (plus shipping).  Now I'm actually 
>> starting to look it over.  Haha
>>
>> Do you know what the story is with the fork?  It's got a Ritchey logo in 
>> it.  Is that a Ritchey fork or some kind of Ritchey crown that Jeff used to 
>> build a fork?
>>
>>  BL in EC
>>
>> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 6:53:44 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Haha that’s awesome Bill. You’re welcome to it at that price if you win. 
>>> I’d hope for more but it doesn’t fit me and I have other projects that 
>>> could use the bike funds.
>>>
>>> Thanks 
>>>
>>> Eliot 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 3:38 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
 I threw a $400 bid at it just for fun, and because it pisses me off 
 that 4 people already bid $50 or less on it, because they are bottom 
 feeders.  If I win and you don't want to sell it at that price, I'll let 
 you keep it.  I respect the no-reserve-one-dollar auction to let the 
 market 
 decide what something is worth.  I hope it goes way up.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 11:47:22 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hey Mike, I don’t remember getting that request. Sorry about that. I 
> don’t have wheels for it any more but would guesstimate 820-830 based on 
> a 
> test ride when I bought it and past experience.
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 11:14 AM Mike Godwin  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Eliot
>>
>> Did you ever get an opportunity to put some wheels on and measure the 
>> stand over height? 
>> Mike SLO CA
>>
>> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 10:40:20 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No longer available. Listed as an ebay auction. Current winning bid 
>>> is $2.25. If it fits you don't be shy.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 8:19 AM Eliot Balogh  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Price drop to $875 shipped

 On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 2:08 PM Brian Campbell  
 wrote:

>>> I have 2, L' avecaise frames from Jeff Lyon. 
> The first is set up as a dedicated Rando bike and the other as a 
> lighter weight, road bike. 
> Both are 59cm ST, 58 cm TT, 700c wheels and can fit 35mm tires and 
> fenders with dual pivot brakes.
> 28mm, 7-4-7 top tube and 38mm down tubes
> Seat & Headtube angle 72.5 degrees
> BB drop 78mm
> Chainstay Length 44cm
> Fork rake 58mm
> Both frames weigh just a hair over 6lbs with the 1 1/8 fork 
> included.
> I think they ride great and if the frame for sale rides anything 
> like mine, I think the buyer will be very pleased.
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 9:34:55 AM UTC-4 lukeheller wrote:
>
>> Dang, i love this. 
>> I've been after a Lyon or Lyon adjacent.
>> Actually called Jess last fall and inquired about a new frame but 
>> he was not taking new orders due to aging challenges.
>> This seems like a great deal and a great fit for someone!
>>
>> If the STA were 72 or slacker, i'd likely gobble this up!
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 9:57:20 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Bill,
>>>
>>> I’m waiting to hear back from Jeff Lyon for the details. With 
>>> the light weight and 435 stays I’m guessing cross vs sport tour. 
>>> STA is 73, 
>>> HTA 72, my gross measurement of stack and reach were ~400 +/- 5mm 
>>> and 600, 
>>> rear end is 130mm
>>>
>>> I’ll see if I can’t get an approximate BB drop with a line 
>>> level. 
>>>
>>> Eliot
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:29 PM Bill Lindsay  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Do you have any idea what it is?  Like, is it a cyclo

Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Jeff Lyon lightweight steel frameset

[Eliot Balogh]

Heck of a deal :p

I’m happy to clarify with Jeff. My guess is Ritchey crown but we shall see.

On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 6:19 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> I'm still winning at only $207.50 (plus shipping).  Now I'm actually
> starting to look it over.  Haha
>
> Do you know what the story is with the fork?  It's got a Ritchey logo in
> it.  Is that a Ritchey fork or some kind of Ritchey crown that Jeff used to
> build a fork?
>
>  BL in EC
>
> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 6:53:44 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Haha that’s awesome Bill. You’re welcome to it at that price if you win.
>> I’d hope for more but it doesn’t fit me and I have other projects that
>> could use the bike funds.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Eliot
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 3:38 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> I threw a $400 bid at it just for fun, and because it pisses me off that
>>> 4 people already bid $50 or less on it, because they are bottom feeders.
>>> If I win and you don't want to sell it at that price, I'll let you keep
>>> it.  I respect the no-reserve-one-dollar auction to let the market decide
>>> what something is worth.  I hope it goes way up.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 11:47:22 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey Mike, I don’t remember getting that request. Sorry about that. I
 don’t have wheels for it any more but would guesstimate 820-830 based on a
 test ride when I bought it and past experience.

 On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 11:14 AM Mike Godwin 
 wrote:

> Hi Eliot
>
> Did you ever get an opportunity to put some wheels on and measure the
> stand over height?
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 10:40:20 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> No longer available. Listed as an ebay auction. Current winning bid
>> is $2.25. If it fits you don't be shy.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 8:19 AM Eliot Balogh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Price drop to $875 shipped
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 2:08 PM Brian Campbell 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> I have 2, L' avecaise frames from Jeff Lyon.
 The first is set up as a dedicated Rando bike and the other as a
 lighter weight, road bike.
 Both are 59cm ST, 58 cm TT, 700c wheels and can fit 35mm tires and
 fenders with dual pivot brakes.
 28mm, 7-4-7 top tube and 38mm down tubes
 Seat & Headtube angle 72.5 degrees
 BB drop 78mm
 Chainstay Length 44cm
 Fork rake 58mm
 Both frames weigh just a hair over 6lbs with the 1 1/8 fork
 included.
 I think they ride great and if the frame for sale rides anything
 like mine, I think the buyer will be very pleased.


 On Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 9:34:55 AM UTC-4 lukeheller wrote:

> Dang, i love this.
> I've been after a Lyon or Lyon adjacent.
> Actually called Jess last fall and inquired about a new frame but
> he was not taking new orders due to aging challenges.
> This seems like a great deal and a great fit for someone!
>
> If the STA were 72 or slacker, i'd likely gobble this up!
>
>
> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 9:57:20 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Bill,
>>
>> I’m waiting to hear back from Jeff Lyon for the details. With the
>> light weight and 435 stays I’m guessing cross vs sport tour. STA is 
>> 73, HTA
>> 72, my gross measurement of stack and reach were ~400 +/- 5mm and 
>> 600, rear
>> end is 130mm
>>
>> I’ll see if I can’t get an approximate BB drop with a line level.
>>
>> Eliot
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:29 PM Bill Lindsay 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you have any idea what it is?  Like, is it a cyclocross
>>> frame?  Is it a gravel frame?  Is it a touring frame?  Any idea of 
>>> the
>>> Stack and Reach, or angles, and BB drop?  Over Locknut Dimension in 
>>> back?
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I apologize if this isn’t allowed here. Just figured this bunch
 would appreciate it.
 Selling this early 2000s custom steel Lyon frameset. I know you
 don’t care about weight but the frameset weighs in at just under 6 
 lbs with
 the headset. It has clearance for 40-42mm 700c tires in the front 
 and more
 in the back. Cool touches like the integrated cable hanger, fillet 
 brazing
 and tube supports.

 58cm x 58cm CTC. 435mm chainstay. 1in threadless headset (steer

Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Jeff Lyon lightweight steel frameset

[Bill Lindsay]

I'm still winning at only $207.50 (plus shipping).  Now I'm actually 
starting to look it over.  Haha

Do you know what the story is with the fork?  It's got a Ritchey logo in 
it.  Is that a Ritchey fork or some kind of Ritchey crown that Jeff used to 
build a fork?

 BL in EC

On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 6:53:44 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Haha that’s awesome Bill. You’re welcome to it at that price if you win. 
> I’d hope for more but it doesn’t fit me and I have other projects that 
> could use the bike funds.
>
> Thanks 
>
> Eliot 
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 3:38 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> I threw a $400 bid at it just for fun, and because it pisses me off that 
>> 4 people already bid $50 or less on it, because they are bottom feeders.  
>> If I win and you don't want to sell it at that price, I'll let you keep 
>> it.  I respect the no-reserve-one-dollar auction to let the market decide 
>> what something is worth.  I hope it goes way up.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 11:47:22 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Mike, I don’t remember getting that request. Sorry about that. I 
>>> don’t have wheels for it any more but would guesstimate 820-830 based on a 
>>> test ride when I bought it and past experience.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 11:14 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Eliot

 Did you ever get an opportunity to put some wheels on and measure the 
 stand over height? 
 Mike SLO CA

 On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 10:40:20 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> No longer available. Listed as an ebay auction. Current winning bid is 
> $2.25. If it fits you don't be shy.
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 8:19 AM Eliot Balogh  
> wrote:
>
>> Price drop to $875 shipped
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 2:08 PM Brian Campbell  
>> wrote:
>>
> I have 2, L' avecaise frames from Jeff Lyon. 
>>> The first is set up as a dedicated Rando bike and the other as a 
>>> lighter weight, road bike. 
>>> Both are 59cm ST, 58 cm TT, 700c wheels and can fit 35mm tires and 
>>> fenders with dual pivot brakes.
>>> 28mm, 7-4-7 top tube and 38mm down tubes
>>> Seat & Headtube angle 72.5 degrees
>>> BB drop 78mm
>>> Chainstay Length 44cm
>>> Fork rake 58mm
>>> Both frames weigh just a hair over 6lbs with the 1 1/8 fork included.
>>> I think they ride great and if the frame for sale rides anything 
>>> like mine, I think the buyer will be very pleased.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 9:34:55 AM UTC-4 lukeheller wrote:
>>>
 Dang, i love this. 
 I've been after a Lyon or Lyon adjacent.
 Actually called Jess last fall and inquired about a new frame but 
 he was not taking new orders due to aging challenges.
 This seems like a great deal and a great fit for someone!

 If the STA were 72 or slacker, i'd likely gobble this up!


 On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 9:57:20 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hey Bill,
>
> I’m waiting to hear back from Jeff Lyon for the details. With the 
> light weight and 435 stays I’m guessing cross vs sport tour. STA is 
> 73, HTA 
> 72, my gross measurement of stack and reach were ~400 +/- 5mm and 
> 600, rear 
> end is 130mm
>
> I’ll see if I can’t get an approximate BB drop with a line level. 
>
> Eliot
>
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:29 PM Bill Lindsay  
> wrote:
>
>> Do you have any idea what it is?  Like, is it a cyclocross 
>> frame?  Is it a gravel frame?  Is it a touring frame?  Any idea of 
>> the 
>> Stack and Reach, or angles, and BB drop?  Over Locknut Dimension in 
>> back?
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I apologize if this isn’t allowed here. Just figured this bunch 
>>> would appreciate it.
>>> Selling this early 2000s custom steel Lyon frameset. I know you 
>>> don’t care about weight but the frameset weighs in at just under 6 
>>> lbs with 
>>> the headset. It has clearance for 40-42mm 700c tires in the front 
>>> and more 
>>> in the back. Cool touches like the integrated cable hanger, fillet 
>>> brazing 
>>> and tube supports.
>>>
>>> 58cm x 58cm CTC. 435mm chainstay. 1in threadless headset (steer 
>>> can be shimmed for 1 1/8) previous owner must have ran some massive 
>>> tires 
>>> because it’s lost some paint from tire rub. It’s been sanded and 
>>> painted 
>>> over with touch up (sorry I couldn’t get a match). Fortunat

Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Jeff Lyon lightweight steel frameset

[Eliot Balogh]

Haha that’s awesome Bill. You’re welcome to it at that price if you win.
I’d hope for more but it doesn’t fit me and I have other projects that
could use the bike funds.

Thanks

Eliot

On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 3:38 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> I threw a $400 bid at it just for fun, and because it pisses me off that 4
> people already bid $50 or less on it, because they are bottom feeders.  If
> I win and you don't want to sell it at that price, I'll let you keep it.  I
> respect the no-reserve-one-dollar auction to let the market decide what
> something is worth.  I hope it goes way up.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 11:47:22 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey Mike, I don’t remember getting that request. Sorry about that. I
>> don’t have wheels for it any more but would guesstimate 820-830 based on a
>> test ride when I bought it and past experience.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 11:14 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eliot
>>>
>>> Did you ever get an opportunity to put some wheels on and measure the
>>> stand over height?
>>> Mike SLO CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 10:40:20 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 No longer available. Listed as an ebay auction. Current winning bid is
 $2.25. If it fits you don't be shy.

 On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 8:19 AM Eliot Balogh  wrote:

> Price drop to $875 shipped
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 2:08 PM Brian Campbell 
> wrote:
>
 I have 2, L' avecaise frames from Jeff Lyon.
>> The first is set up as a dedicated Rando bike and the other as a
>> lighter weight, road bike.
>> Both are 59cm ST, 58 cm TT, 700c wheels and can fit 35mm tires and
>> fenders with dual pivot brakes.
>> 28mm, 7-4-7 top tube and 38mm down tubes
>> Seat & Headtube angle 72.5 degrees
>> BB drop 78mm
>> Chainstay Length 44cm
>> Fork rake 58mm
>> Both frames weigh just a hair over 6lbs with the 1 1/8 fork included.
>> I think they ride great and if the frame for sale rides anything like
>> mine, I think the buyer will be very pleased.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 9:34:55 AM UTC-4 lukeheller wrote:
>>
>>> Dang, i love this.
>>> I've been after a Lyon or Lyon adjacent.
>>> Actually called Jess last fall and inquired about a new frame but he
>>> was not taking new orders due to aging challenges.
>>> This seems like a great deal and a great fit for someone!
>>>
>>> If the STA were 72 or slacker, i'd likely gobble this up!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 9:57:20 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey Bill,

 I’m waiting to hear back from Jeff Lyon for the details. With the
 light weight and 435 stays I’m guessing cross vs sport tour. STA is 
 73, HTA
 72, my gross measurement of stack and reach were ~400 +/- 5mm and 600, 
 rear
 end is 130mm

 I’ll see if I can’t get an approximate BB drop with a line level.

 Eliot

 On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:29 PM Bill Lindsay 
 wrote:

> Do you have any idea what it is?  Like, is it a cyclocross frame?
> Is it a gravel frame?  Is it a touring frame?  Any idea of the Stack 
> and
> Reach, or angles, and BB drop?  Over Locknut Dimension in back?
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I apologize if this isn’t allowed here. Just figured this bunch
>> would appreciate it.
>> Selling this early 2000s custom steel Lyon frameset. I know you
>> don’t care about weight but the frameset weighs in at just under 6 
>> lbs with
>> the headset. It has clearance for 40-42mm 700c tires in the front 
>> and more
>> in the back. Cool touches like the integrated cable hanger, fillet 
>> brazing
>> and tube supports.
>>
>> 58cm x 58cm CTC. 435mm chainstay. 1in threadless headset (steer
>> can be shimmed for 1 1/8) previous owner must have ran some massive 
>> tires
>> because it’s lost some paint from tire rub. It’s been sanded and 
>> painted
>> over with touch up (sorry I couldn’t get a match). Fortunately areas 
>> aren’t
>> conspicuous.
>>
>> No idea on value but figured I’d start asking at $1000 shipped?
>> Feel free to make me an offer.
>>
>> https://imgur.com/a/cgmJxfq
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Jeff Lyon lightweight steel frameset

[Bill Lindsay]

I threw a $400 bid at it just for fun, and because it pisses me off that 4 
people already bid $50 or less on it, because they are bottom feeders.  If 
I win and you don't want to sell it at that price, I'll let you keep it.  I 
respect the no-reserve-one-dollar auction to let the market decide what 
something is worth.  I hope it goes way up.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 11:47:22 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Mike, I don’t remember getting that request. Sorry about that. I don’t 
> have wheels for it any more but would guesstimate 820-830 based on a test 
> ride when I bought it and past experience.
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 11:14 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:
>
>> Hi Eliot
>>
>> Did you ever get an opportunity to put some wheels on and measure the 
>> stand over height? 
>> Mike SLO CA
>>
>> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 10:40:20 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> No longer available. Listed as an ebay auction. Current winning bid is 
>>> $2.25. If it fits you don't be shy.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 8:19 AM Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>>>
 Price drop to $875 shipped

 On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 2:08 PM Brian Campbell  
 wrote:

>>> I have 2, L' avecaise frames from Jeff Lyon. 
> The first is set up as a dedicated Rando bike and the other as a 
> lighter weight, road bike. 
> Both are 59cm ST, 58 cm TT, 700c wheels and can fit 35mm tires and 
> fenders with dual pivot brakes.
> 28mm, 7-4-7 top tube and 38mm down tubes
> Seat & Headtube angle 72.5 degrees
> BB drop 78mm
> Chainstay Length 44cm
> Fork rake 58mm
> Both frames weigh just a hair over 6lbs with the 1 1/8 fork included.
> I think they ride great and if the frame for sale rides anything like 
> mine, I think the buyer will be very pleased.
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 9:34:55 AM UTC-4 lukeheller wrote:
>
>> Dang, i love this. 
>> I've been after a Lyon or Lyon adjacent.
>> Actually called Jess last fall and inquired about a new frame but he 
>> was not taking new orders due to aging challenges.
>> This seems like a great deal and a great fit for someone!
>>
>> If the STA were 72 or slacker, i'd likely gobble this up!
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 9:57:20 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Bill,
>>>
>>> I’m waiting to hear back from Jeff Lyon for the details. With the 
>>> light weight and 435 stays I’m guessing cross vs sport tour. STA is 73, 
>>> HTA 
>>> 72, my gross measurement of stack and reach were ~400 +/- 5mm and 600, 
>>> rear 
>>> end is 130mm
>>>
>>> I’ll see if I can’t get an approximate BB drop with a line level. 
>>>
>>> Eliot
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:29 PM Bill Lindsay  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Do you have any idea what it is?  Like, is it a cyclocross frame?  
 Is it a gravel frame?  Is it a touring frame?  Any idea of the Stack 
 and 
 Reach, or angles, and BB drop?  Over Locknut Dimension in back?

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I apologize if this isn’t allowed here. Just figured this bunch 
> would appreciate it.
> Selling this early 2000s custom steel Lyon frameset. I know you 
> don’t care about weight but the frameset weighs in at just under 6 
> lbs with 
> the headset. It has clearance for 40-42mm 700c tires in the front and 
> more 
> in the back. Cool touches like the integrated cable hanger, fillet 
> brazing 
> and tube supports.
>
> 58cm x 58cm CTC. 435mm chainstay. 1in threadless headset (steer 
> can be shimmed for 1 1/8) previous owner must have ran some massive 
> tires 
> because it’s lost some paint from tire rub. It’s been sanded and 
> painted 
> over with touch up (sorry I couldn’t get a match). Fortunately areas 
> aren’t 
> conspicuous. 
>
> No idea on value but figured I’d start asking at $1000 shipped? 
> Feel free to make me an offer. 
>
> https://imgur.com/a/cgmJxfq
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Jeff Lyon lightweight steel frameset

[Eliot Balogh]

Hey Mike, I don’t remember getting that request. Sorry about that. I don’t
have wheels for it any more but would guesstimate 820-830 based on a test
ride when I bought it and past experience.

On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 11:14 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:

> Hi Eliot
>
> Did you ever get an opportunity to put some wheels on and measure the
> stand over height?
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 10:40:20 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> No longer available. Listed as an ebay auction. Current winning bid is
>> $2.25. If it fits you don't be shy.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 8:19 AM Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>>
>>> Price drop to $875 shipped
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 2:08 PM Brian Campbell 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> I have 2, L' avecaise frames from Jeff Lyon.
 The first is set up as a dedicated Rando bike and the other as a
 lighter weight, road bike.
 Both are 59cm ST, 58 cm TT, 700c wheels and can fit 35mm tires and
 fenders with dual pivot brakes.
 28mm, 7-4-7 top tube and 38mm down tubes
 Seat & Headtube angle 72.5 degrees
 BB drop 78mm
 Chainstay Length 44cm
 Fork rake 58mm
 Both frames weigh just a hair over 6lbs with the 1 1/8 fork included.
 I think they ride great and if the frame for sale rides anything like
 mine, I think the buyer will be very pleased.


 On Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 9:34:55 AM UTC-4 lukeheller wrote:

> Dang, i love this.
> I've been after a Lyon or Lyon adjacent.
> Actually called Jess last fall and inquired about a new frame but he
> was not taking new orders due to aging challenges.
> This seems like a great deal and a great fit for someone!
>
> If the STA were 72 or slacker, i'd likely gobble this up!
>
>
> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 9:57:20 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Bill,
>>
>> I’m waiting to hear back from Jeff Lyon for the details. With the
>> light weight and 435 stays I’m guessing cross vs sport tour. STA is 73, 
>> HTA
>> 72, my gross measurement of stack and reach were ~400 +/- 5mm and 600, 
>> rear
>> end is 130mm
>>
>> I’ll see if I can’t get an approximate BB drop with a line level.
>>
>> Eliot
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:29 PM Bill Lindsay 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you have any idea what it is?  Like, is it a cyclocross frame?
>>> Is it a gravel frame?  Is it a touring frame?  Any idea of the Stack and
>>> Reach, or angles, and BB drop?  Over Locknut Dimension in back?
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I apologize if this isn’t allowed here. Just figured this bunch
 would appreciate it.
 Selling this early 2000s custom steel Lyon frameset. I know you
 don’t care about weight but the frameset weighs in at just under 6 lbs 
 with
 the headset. It has clearance for 40-42mm 700c tires in the front and 
 more
 in the back. Cool touches like the integrated cable hanger, fillet 
 brazing
 and tube supports.

 58cm x 58cm CTC. 435mm chainstay. 1in threadless headset (steer can
 be shimmed for 1 1/8) previous owner must have ran some massive tires
 because it’s lost some paint from tire rub. It’s been sanded and 
 painted
 over with touch up (sorry I couldn’t get a match). Fortunately areas 
 aren’t
 conspicuous.

 No idea on value but figured I’d start asking at $1000 shipped?
 Feel free to make me an offer.

 https://imgur.com/a/cgmJxfq

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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Jeff Lyon lightweight steel frameset

[Mike Godwin]

Hi Eliot

Did you ever get an opportunity to put some wheels on and measure the stand 
over height? 
Mike SLO CA

On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 10:40:20 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> No longer available. Listed as an ebay auction. Current winning bid is 
> $2.25. If it fits you don't be shy.
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 8:19 AM Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>
>> Price drop to $875 shipped
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 2:08 PM Brian Campbell  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have 2, L' avecaise frames from Jeff Lyon. 
>>> The first is set up as a dedicated Rando bike and the other as a lighter 
>>> weight, road bike. 
>>> Both are 59cm ST, 58 cm TT, 700c wheels and can fit 35mm tires and 
>>> fenders with dual pivot brakes.
>>> 28mm, 7-4-7 top tube and 38mm down tubes
>>> Seat & Headtube angle 72.5 degrees
>>> BB drop 78mm
>>> Chainstay Length 44cm
>>> Fork rake 58mm
>>> Both frames weigh just a hair over 6lbs with the 1 1/8 fork included.
>>> I think they ride great and if the frame for sale rides anything like 
>>> mine, I think the buyer will be very pleased.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 9:34:55 AM UTC-4 lukeheller wrote:
>>>
 Dang, i love this. 
 I've been after a Lyon or Lyon adjacent.
 Actually called Jess last fall and inquired about a new frame but he 
 was not taking new orders due to aging challenges.
 This seems like a great deal and a great fit for someone!

 If the STA were 72 or slacker, i'd likely gobble this up!


 On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 9:57:20 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Bill,
>
> I’m waiting to hear back from Jeff Lyon for the details. With the 
> light weight and 435 stays I’m guessing cross vs sport tour. STA is 73, 
> HTA 
> 72, my gross measurement of stack and reach were ~400 +/- 5mm and 600, 
> rear 
> end is 130mm
>
> I’ll see if I can’t get an approximate BB drop with a line level. 
>
> Eliot
>
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:29 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> Do you have any idea what it is?  Like, is it a cyclocross frame?  Is 
>> it a gravel frame?  Is it a touring frame?  Any idea of the Stack and 
>> Reach, or angles, and BB drop?  Over Locknut Dimension in back?
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I apologize if this isn’t allowed here. Just figured this bunch 
>>> would appreciate it.
>>> Selling this early 2000s custom steel Lyon frameset. I know you 
>>> don’t care about weight but the frameset weighs in at just under 6 lbs 
>>> with 
>>> the headset. It has clearance for 40-42mm 700c tires in the front and 
>>> more 
>>> in the back. Cool touches like the integrated cable hanger, fillet 
>>> brazing 
>>> and tube supports.
>>>
>>> 58cm x 58cm CTC. 435mm chainstay. 1in threadless headset (steer can 
>>> be shimmed for 1 1/8) previous owner must have ran some massive tires 
>>> because it’s lost some paint from tire rub. It’s been sanded and 
>>> painted 
>>> over with touch up (sorry I couldn’t get a match). Fortunately areas 
>>> aren’t 
>>> conspicuous. 
>>>
>>> No idea on value but figured I’d start asking at $1000 shipped? Feel 
>>> free to make me an offer. 
>>>
>>> https://imgur.com/a/cgmJxfq
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Jeff Lyon lightweight steel frameset

[Eliot Balogh]

No longer available. Listed as an ebay auction. Current winning bid is
$2.25. If it fits you don't be shy.

On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 8:19 AM Eliot Balogh  wrote:

> Price drop to $875 shipped
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 2:08 PM Brian Campbell 
> wrote:
>
>> I have 2, L' avecaise frames from Jeff Lyon.
>> The first is set up as a dedicated Rando bike and the other as a lighter
>> weight, road bike.
>> Both are 59cm ST, 58 cm TT, 700c wheels and can fit 35mm tires and
>> fenders with dual pivot brakes.
>> 28mm, 7-4-7 top tube and 38mm down tubes
>> Seat & Headtube angle 72.5 degrees
>> BB drop 78mm
>> Chainstay Length 44cm
>> Fork rake 58mm
>> Both frames weigh just a hair over 6lbs with the 1 1/8 fork included.
>> I think they ride great and if the frame for sale rides anything like
>> mine, I think the buyer will be very pleased.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 9:34:55 AM UTC-4 lukeheller wrote:
>>
>>> Dang, i love this.
>>> I've been after a Lyon or Lyon adjacent.
>>> Actually called Jess last fall and inquired about a new frame but he was
>>> not taking new orders due to aging challenges.
>>> This seems like a great deal and a great fit for someone!
>>>
>>> If the STA were 72 or slacker, i'd likely gobble this up!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 9:57:20 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hey Bill,

 I’m waiting to hear back from Jeff Lyon for the details. With the light
 weight and 435 stays I’m guessing cross vs sport tour. STA is 73, HTA 72,
 my gross measurement of stack and reach were ~400 +/- 5mm and 600, rear end
 is 130mm

 I’ll see if I can’t get an approximate BB drop with a line level.

 Eliot

 On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:29 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Do you have any idea what it is?  Like, is it a cyclocross frame?  Is
> it a gravel frame?  Is it a touring frame?  Any idea of the Stack and
> Reach, or angles, and BB drop?  Over Locknut Dimension in back?
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I apologize if this isn’t allowed here. Just figured this bunch would
>> appreciate it.
>> Selling this early 2000s custom steel Lyon frameset. I know you don’t
>> care about weight but the frameset weighs in at just under 6 lbs with the
>> headset. It has clearance for 40-42mm 700c tires in the front and more in
>> the back. Cool touches like the integrated cable hanger, fillet brazing 
>> and
>> tube supports.
>>
>> 58cm x 58cm CTC. 435mm chainstay. 1in threadless headset (steer can
>> be shimmed for 1 1/8) previous owner must have ran some massive tires
>> because it’s lost some paint from tire rub. It’s been sanded and painted
>> over with touch up (sorry I couldn’t get a match). Fortunately areas 
>> aren’t
>> conspicuous.
>>
>> No idea on value but figured I’d start asking at $1000 shipped? Feel
>> free to make me an offer.
>>
>> https://imgur.com/a/cgmJxfq
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Jeff Lyon lightweight steel frameset

[Eliot Balogh]

Price drop to $875 shipped

On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 2:08 PM Brian Campbell 
wrote:

> I have 2, L' avecaise frames from Jeff Lyon.
> The first is set up as a dedicated Rando bike and the other as a lighter
> weight, road bike.
> Both are 59cm ST, 58 cm TT, 700c wheels and can fit 35mm tires and fenders
> with dual pivot brakes.
> 28mm, 7-4-7 top tube and 38mm down tubes
> Seat & Headtube angle 72.5 degrees
> BB drop 78mm
> Chainstay Length 44cm
> Fork rake 58mm
> Both frames weigh just a hair over 6lbs with the 1 1/8 fork included.
> I think they ride great and if the frame for sale rides anything like
> mine, I think the buyer will be very pleased.
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 9:34:55 AM UTC-4 lukeheller wrote:
>
>> Dang, i love this.
>> I've been after a Lyon or Lyon adjacent.
>> Actually called Jess last fall and inquired about a new frame but he was
>> not taking new orders due to aging challenges.
>> This seems like a great deal and a great fit for someone!
>>
>> If the STA were 72 or slacker, i'd likely gobble this up!
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 9:57:20 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Bill,
>>>
>>> I’m waiting to hear back from Jeff Lyon for the details. With the light
>>> weight and 435 stays I’m guessing cross vs sport tour. STA is 73, HTA 72,
>>> my gross measurement of stack and reach were ~400 +/- 5mm and 600, rear end
>>> is 130mm
>>>
>>> I’ll see if I can’t get an approximate BB drop with a line level.
>>>
>>> Eliot
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:29 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
 Do you have any idea what it is?  Like, is it a cyclocross frame?  Is
 it a gravel frame?  Is it a touring frame?  Any idea of the Stack and
 Reach, or angles, and BB drop?  Over Locknut Dimension in back?

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> I apologize if this isn’t allowed here. Just figured this bunch would
> appreciate it.
> Selling this early 2000s custom steel Lyon frameset. I know you don’t
> care about weight but the frameset weighs in at just under 6 lbs with the
> headset. It has clearance for 40-42mm 700c tires in the front and more in
> the back. Cool touches like the integrated cable hanger, fillet brazing 
> and
> tube supports.
>
> 58cm x 58cm CTC. 435mm chainstay. 1in threadless headset (steer can be
> shimmed for 1 1/8) previous owner must have ran some massive tires because
> it’s lost some paint from tire rub. It’s been sanded and painted over with
> touch up (sorry I couldn’t get a match). Fortunately areas aren’t
> conspicuous.
>
> No idea on value but figured I’d start asking at $1000 shipped? Feel
> free to make me an offer.
>
> https://imgur.com/a/cgmJxfq
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Jeff Lyon lightweight steel frameset

[Brian Campbell]

I have 2, L' avecaise frames from Jeff Lyon. 
The first is set up as a dedicated Rando bike and the other as a lighter 
weight, road bike. 
Both are 59cm ST, 58 cm TT, 700c wheels and can fit 35mm tires and fenders 
with dual pivot brakes.
28mm, 7-4-7 top tube and 38mm down tubes
Seat & Headtube angle 72.5 degrees
BB drop 78mm
Chainstay Length 44cm
Fork rake 58mm
Both frames weigh just a hair over 6lbs with the 1 1/8 fork included.
I think they ride great and if the frame for sale rides anything like mine, 
I think the buyer will be very pleased.


On Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 9:34:55 AM UTC-4 lukeheller wrote:

> Dang, i love this. 
> I've been after a Lyon or Lyon adjacent.
> Actually called Jess last fall and inquired about a new frame but he was 
> not taking new orders due to aging challenges.
> This seems like a great deal and a great fit for someone!
>
> If the STA were 72 or slacker, i'd likely gobble this up!
>
>
> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 9:57:20 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey Bill,
>>
>> I’m waiting to hear back from Jeff Lyon for the details. With the light 
>> weight and 435 stays I’m guessing cross vs sport tour. STA is 73, HTA 72, 
>> my gross measurement of stack and reach were ~400 +/- 5mm and 600, rear end 
>> is 130mm
>>
>> I’ll see if I can’t get an approximate BB drop with a line level. 
>>
>> Eliot
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:29 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> Do you have any idea what it is?  Like, is it a cyclocross frame?  Is it 
>>> a gravel frame?  Is it a touring frame?  Any idea of the Stack and Reach, 
>>> or angles, and BB drop?  Over Locknut Dimension in back?
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I apologize if this isn’t allowed here. Just figured this bunch would 
 appreciate it.
 Selling this early 2000s custom steel Lyon frameset. I know you don’t 
 care about weight but the frameset weighs in at just under 6 lbs with the 
 headset. It has clearance for 40-42mm 700c tires in the front and more in 
 the back. Cool touches like the integrated cable hanger, fillet brazing 
 and 
 tube supports.

 58cm x 58cm CTC. 435mm chainstay. 1in threadless headset (steer can be 
 shimmed for 1 1/8) previous owner must have ran some massive tires because 
 it’s lost some paint from tire rub. It’s been sanded and painted over with 
 touch up (sorry I couldn’t get a match). Fortunately areas aren’t 
 conspicuous. 

 No idea on value but figured I’d start asking at $1000 shipped? Feel 
 free to make me an offer. 

 https://imgur.com/a/cgmJxfq

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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Jeff Lyon lightweight steel frameset

[Eliot Balogh]

If anyone wants me to mock up bars and saddle, send me your saddle height
and setback. I can measure nose to bars and bar drop from saddle.

On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:29 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Do you have any idea what it is?  Like, is it a cyclocross frame?  Is it a
> gravel frame?  Is it a touring frame?  Any idea of the Stack and Reach, or
> angles, and BB drop?  Over Locknut Dimension in back?
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I apologize if this isn’t allowed here. Just figured this bunch would
>> appreciate it.
>> Selling this early 2000s custom steel Lyon frameset. I know you don’t
>> care about weight but the frameset weighs in at just under 6 lbs with the
>> headset. It has clearance for 40-42mm 700c tires in the front and more in
>> the back. Cool touches like the integrated cable hanger, fillet brazing and
>> tube supports.
>>
>> 58cm x 58cm CTC. 435mm chainstay. 1in threadless headset (steer can be
>> shimmed for 1 1/8) previous owner must have ran some massive tires because
>> it’s lost some paint from tire rub. It’s been sanded and painted over with
>> touch up (sorry I couldn’t get a match). Fortunately areas aren’t
>> conspicuous.
>>
>> No idea on value but figured I’d start asking at $1000 shipped? Feel free
>> to make me an offer.
>>
>> https://imgur.com/a/cgmJxfq
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Jeff Lyon lightweight steel frameset

[lukeheller]

Dang, i love this. 
I've been after a Lyon or Lyon adjacent.
Actually called Jess last fall and inquired about a new frame but he was 
not taking new orders due to aging challenges.
This seems like a great deal and a great fit for someone!

If the STA were 72 or slacker, i'd likely gobble this up!


On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 9:57:20 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Bill,
>
> I’m waiting to hear back from Jeff Lyon for the details. With the light 
> weight and 435 stays I’m guessing cross vs sport tour. STA is 73, HTA 72, 
> my gross measurement of stack and reach were ~400 +/- 5mm and 600, rear end 
> is 130mm
>
> I’ll see if I can’t get an approximate BB drop with a line level. 
>
> Eliot
>
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:29 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> Do you have any idea what it is?  Like, is it a cyclocross frame?  Is it 
>> a gravel frame?  Is it a touring frame?  Any idea of the Stack and Reach, 
>> or angles, and BB drop?  Over Locknut Dimension in back?
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I apologize if this isn’t allowed here. Just figured this bunch would 
>>> appreciate it.
>>> Selling this early 2000s custom steel Lyon frameset. I know you don’t 
>>> care about weight but the frameset weighs in at just under 6 lbs with the 
>>> headset. It has clearance for 40-42mm 700c tires in the front and more in 
>>> the back. Cool touches like the integrated cable hanger, fillet brazing and 
>>> tube supports.
>>>
>>> 58cm x 58cm CTC. 435mm chainstay. 1in threadless headset (steer can be 
>>> shimmed for 1 1/8) previous owner must have ran some massive tires because 
>>> it’s lost some paint from tire rub. It’s been sanded and painted over with 
>>> touch up (sorry I couldn’t get a match). Fortunately areas aren’t 
>>> conspicuous. 
>>>
>>> No idea on value but figured I’d start asking at $1000 shipped? Feel 
>>> free to make me an offer. 
>>>
>>> https://imgur.com/a/cgmJxfq
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Jeff Lyon lightweight steel frameset

[Eliot Balogh]

Hey Bill,

I’m waiting to hear back from Jeff Lyon for the details. With the light
weight and 435 stays I’m guessing cross vs sport tour. STA is 73, HTA 72,
my gross measurement of stack and reach were ~400 +/- 5mm and 600, rear end
is 130mm

I’ll see if I can’t get an approximate BB drop with a line level.

Eliot

On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:29 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Do you have any idea what it is?  Like, is it a cyclocross frame?  Is it a
> gravel frame?  Is it a touring frame?  Any idea of the Stack and Reach, or
> angles, and BB drop?  Over Locknut Dimension in back?
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I apologize if this isn’t allowed here. Just figured this bunch would
>> appreciate it.
>> Selling this early 2000s custom steel Lyon frameset. I know you don’t
>> care about weight but the frameset weighs in at just under 6 lbs with the
>> headset. It has clearance for 40-42mm 700c tires in the front and more in
>> the back. Cool touches like the integrated cable hanger, fillet brazing and
>> tube supports.
>>
>> 58cm x 58cm CTC. 435mm chainstay. 1in threadless headset (steer can be
>> shimmed for 1 1/8) previous owner must have ran some massive tires because
>> it’s lost some paint from tire rub. It’s been sanded and painted over with
>> touch up (sorry I couldn’t get a match). Fortunately areas aren’t
>> conspicuous.
>>
>> No idea on value but figured I’d start asking at $1000 shipped? Feel free
>> to make me an offer.
>>
>> https://imgur.com/a/cgmJxfq
>>
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