Re: [RBW] Re: Fantasyland Daydream: Ti "Riv"
My wording came across too harsh--should have written something like "The title does say Fantasyland after all" rather than questioning whether you read the post title. So my apologies! On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 7:52:20 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: > > Yes, I read the thread title. I was just commenting on the Firefly price, > though that was off topic. Sorry. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fantasyland Daydream: Ti "Riv"
Yes, I read the thread title. I was just commenting on the Firefly price, though that was off topic. Sorry. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fantasyland Daydream: Ti "Riv"
If these stats are tru. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fantasyland Daydream: Ti "Riv"
I included the world because some people outside of the USA buy these type of bikes too. The stat I heard was that only 11% of people worldwide make more than 50kUS$. I think the income average per capita US is in the $40,000 range? So yes, you will find a great buying market among USA citizenry. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fantasyland Daydream: Ti "Riv"
On 08/28/2016 11:10 AM, Lungimsam wrote: Aren't Fireflys like 4800$ frames? I saw the review of it in the current BQ. A lot of those BQ reviews are of bikes that I would guess only people in the top 8% of earners worldwide could afford. That firefly was a 10,000$US bike once built up. You are muddying the waters by expanding the scope of earners to the entire world. If you confine it to the US you'll find there are many cyclists who have no difficulty affording either custom Firefly or Seven Titanium frames, or high end carbon road bikes. And it's well known you can build up a frame for a lot less than $5,000 worth of components. What's the typical cost of a gruppo used to build a Rivendell? I'd guess closer to $2,000 than to 5,000. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fantasyland Daydream: Ti "Riv"
On 08/27/2016 06:01 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: Slightly aslant from the original question, but leaving aside flex or no flex, what /real, practical/ benefit would you get from a ti Riv that you wouldn't get from a Riv Riv? Me, I've found true love in both flexy (Raleigh Technium, '73 Motobecane G Record) and standard-Riv-stout frames. 1. Nice shiny finish without having it chrome plated 2. Weighs less than a steel one 3. Won't rust -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fantasyland Daydream: Ti "Riv"
Slightly aslant from the original question, but leaving aside flex or no flex, what *real, practical* benefit would you get from a ti Riv that you wouldn't get from a Riv Riv? Me, I've found true love in both flexy (Raleigh Technium, '73 Motobecane G Record) and standard-Riv-stout frames. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fantasyland Daydream: Ti "Riv"
Some Ti frames are flexible. Some people do not like flexible frames and will disparage them. And that's what you heard. My 1991 Ti Spectrum definitely is. Back then, before the fall of the Soviet Union and the Peace Dividend, there was no bicycle Ti tubing; there was Ti for aircraft hydraulic systems and Ti tubing for liquid Sodium for the cooling of nuclear reactors, and it came in limited tubing diameters and thicknesses. Like it or no, back then builders didn't have the option of choosing to fine-tune stiffness, the way they do now (to see this in action, check out Seven Cycles' order form). Today, you can get a Ti frame to be as stiff or as flexible as you like. On 08/27/2016 01:15 PM, Lungimsam wrote: I heard that Ti is "whippy", whatever that means? Maybe that it planes? Mine certainly does. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
