Re: [RBW] Re: Good compromise between a Marathon and a Hetre? Is it the Soma Xpress 650b?

2013-12-12 Thread Hugh Smitham 
Mike your tempting the tire gods.

~Hugh

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lbert Einstein



On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Mike Schiller
wrote:

> of course many of us have used Hetres in the same conditions and never had
> an issue Evan.  I'll take my chances to be able enjoy the speed and
> plushness of the Hetres.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good compromise between a Marathon and a Hetre? Is it the Soma Xpress 650b?

2013-12-06 Thread Hugh Smitham 
Sometimes luck happens in both directions, the Hetres are really intended
for a very narrow use which as I said previously I pushed that boundary so
I won't be going to them again. And David if your reading this I'll get
with you about them.

~Hugh

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Eistein



On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 7:47 PM, dougP  wrote:

> Hugh:
>
> Sometimes it's sheer blind luck.  Recall my slip'n'sliding around the San
> Bernardino Mtns on well worn Vittoria Rando Hypers with not even a pinch
> flat.  Then slicing to the chord a nearly new Schwalbe Marathon Supreme at
> Moro Bay, a tire that hadn't seen any dirt, let alone rocks.  Weird things
> happen to tires.  I will concur that Hetres seem a bit light off-road
> though.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Friday, December 6, 2013 1:19:24 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>
>> Thanks Lynne, Good to know...my Hetres went where they shouldn't have.
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>> moving." -- A 
>> lbert
>> Eistein
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Lynne Fitz  wrote:
>>
>>> Randonneur.  All those miles are from brevets and perms.  Pavement, chip
>>> seal, some gravel and dirt.  Includes some urban miles.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 6, 2013 4:33:25 AM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I have not ridden any of the tires discussed, but it seems a stretch to
 compare a 41 mm tire with a 35 mm tire.  I have ridden paellas and they are
 a great, durable commuting tire but I never experienced them as fast.

 Michael

 On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:43:51 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>
> A good halfway compromise between these two extremes, do ya think, for
> those who know about this 650b stuff?
> Fast-ish, light-ish, puncture protected-ish?
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/t106-10118.htm
>
> Is it the same tread as a Pasela?
> Pasela doesn't come in 650b, right?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good compromise between a Marathon and a Hetre? Is it the Soma Xpress 650b?

2013-12-06 Thread dougP 
Hugh:

Sometimes it's sheer blind luck.  Recall my slip'n'sliding around the San 
Bernardino Mtns on well worn Vittoria Rando Hypers with not even a pinch 
flat.  Then slicing to the chord a nearly new Schwalbe Marathon Supreme at 
Moro Bay, a tire that hadn't seen any dirt, let alone rocks.  Weird things 
happen to tires.  I will concur that Hetres seem a bit light off-road 
though.  

dougP

On Friday, December 6, 2013 1:19:24 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Thanks Lynne, Good to know...my Hetres went where they shouldn't have.
>
> ~Hugh
>
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
> moving." -- A 
> lbert 
> Eistein 
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Lynne Fitz 
> > wrote:
>
>> Randonneur.  All those miles are from brevets and perms.  Pavement, chip 
>> seal, some gravel and dirt.  Includes some urban miles.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 6, 2013 4:33:25 AM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>>>
>>> I have not ridden any of the tires discussed, but it seems a stretch to 
>>> compare a 41 mm tire with a 35 mm tire.  I have ridden paellas and they are 
>>> a great, durable commuting tire but I never experienced them as fast.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:43:51 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

 A good halfway compromise between these two extremes, do ya think, for 
 those who know about this 650b stuff?
 Fast-ish, light-ish, puncture protected-ish?

 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/t106-10118.htm

 Is it the same tread as a Pasela?
 Pasela doesn't come in 650b, right?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good compromise between a Marathon and a Hetre? Is it the Soma Xpress 650b?

2013-12-06 Thread Hugh Smitham 
Thanks Lynne, Good to know...my Hetres went where they shouldn't have.

~Hugh

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moving." -- A lbert
Eistein



On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Lynne Fitz  wrote:

> Randonneur.  All those miles are from brevets and perms.  Pavement, chip
> seal, some gravel and dirt.  Includes some urban miles.
>
>
> On Friday, December 6, 2013 4:33:25 AM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>>
>> I have not ridden any of the tires discussed, but it seems a stretch to
>> compare a 41 mm tire with a 35 mm tire.  I have ridden paellas and they are
>> a great, durable commuting tire but I never experienced them as fast.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:43:51 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>>>
>>> A good halfway compromise between these two extremes, do ya think, for
>>> those who know about this 650b stuff?
>>> Fast-ish, light-ish, puncture protected-ish?
>>>
>>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/t106-10118.htm
>>>
>>> Is it the same tread as a Pasela?
>>> Pasela doesn't come in 650b, right?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good compromise between a Marathon and a Hetre? Is it the Soma Xpress 650b?

2013-12-06 Thread Hugh Smitham 
Thanks Lynne, Good to know...my Hetres went where they shouldn't have.

~Hugh

"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving." -- A lbert
Eistein



On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Lynne Fitz  wrote:

> Randonneur.  All those miles are from brevets and perms.  Pavement, chip
> seal, some gravel and dirt.  Includes some urban miles.
>
>
> On Friday, December 6, 2013 4:33:25 AM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>>
>> I have not ridden any of the tires discussed, but it seems a stretch to
>> compare a 41 mm tire with a 35 mm tire.  I have ridden paellas and they are
>> a great, durable commuting tire but I never experienced them as fast.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:43:51 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>>>
>>> A good halfway compromise between these two extremes, do ya think, for
>>> those who know about this 650b stuff?
>>> Fast-ish, light-ish, puncture protected-ish?
>>>
>>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/t106-10118.htm
>>>
>>> Is it the same tread as a Pasela?
>>> Pasela doesn't come in 650b, right?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good compromise between a Marathon and a Hetre? Is it the Soma Xpress 650b?

2013-12-06 Thread ted 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good compromise between a Marathon and a Hetre? Is it the Soma Xpress 650b?

2013-12-06 Thread Tim Gavin 
I ride GB Lierre tires, 650x38b.  My Riv can't fit Hetres, so I went with
the next biggest.  They're excellent tires, and I've had only one flat in
about 1000 miles (tiny glass sliver, patched the tube).

They feel "speedy and cushy" at about 70 psi front and 80 psi rear.

I'll try the Soma B-line/Xpress next.


On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Michael Hechmer  wrote:

> I have not ridden any of the tires discussed, but it seems a stretch to
> compare a 41 mm tire with a 35 mm tire.  I have ridden paellas and they are
> a great, durable commuting tire but I never experienced them as fast.
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:43:51 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>>
>> A good halfway compromise between these two extremes, do ya think, for
>> those who know about this 650b stuff?
>> Fast-ish, light-ish, puncture protected-ish?
>>
>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/t106-10118.htm
>>
>> Is it the same tread as a Pasela?
>> Pasela doesn't come in 650b, right?
>>
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